Known unknowns, and known knowns
Cindy McCain’s problem is that people don’t know her very well at all.
Michelle Obama’s problem is that people know her all too well.
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Well, let’s see. We know that Cindy McCain is a “C-word”.
And we know that Michelle Obama is a “B-word”.
maybe a cuddle party is in order here.
The differences are stark. With two adopted children, Mrs. McCain is an inspiration. Mrs. Obama on the other hand is positively depressing. It’s a shame too, she could tell her audiences about her background, how far she’s come, and tell them they too can strive to achieve like she does. Instead, she tells them not to bother to try! Sad waste of opportunity, Mrs. Obama.
I dont believe this discussion is helping Michelle Obama’s kids.
Would be nice to know more about Cindy though…she has been sort of invisible up to this point. Not completely, but certainly not as vocal as MO’s gaping maw has been.
Cindy McCain is tall, blond, and she’s chair of Hensley & Co.,one of the largest Anheuser-Busch distributors in the nation. What the hell else do you need to know!
Michelle O’Bama is an erudite grievance fiddler and comes off with a volcanic hubris that makes me reach for the Alka-Seltzer.
Okay, I have a new site to add to the favorite list. Michelle-woe be unto us all-Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.
One is acidic and the other one is not.
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Women are better seen and not heard anyway. /sarc.
*ducks from the onslaught*
O/T See Dubya, I’m so Ticked at the L.A. city officials. Jamiel Shaw is being slammed now. They are reporting that he was a gang member because of a myspace page. His father saw this comming as they told him if he didn’t drop Jamiel’s law they were going to do it.
Shame on our city officials!!!!!
McCain’s recent speech—when finished –ignored his wife –standing right next to him–but-hugged the woman down the row.
“Mighty Mc” – appreciate your wife and show it-we women notice things like that.
Michelle is a bitter rascist who isn’t proud of the US and thinks America is a mean country.
Cindy has got to be an improvement.
I know all I need to know about Mickey Pain’s wife- Her last name isn’t Clinton or Heinz-Kerry. Good nuff for me.
What is Michelle and Barack Obama’s position on Abortion? This article by the Rev Childress never mentions Eugenics and African Americans but that is what he is describing.
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/childress/080510
Did I miss something? When did the first lady start being part of the government anyway? They aren’t elected and should have zero power except of course thier influence over the president.
“What is Michelle and Barack Obama’s position on Abortion?”
um, yer kidding right? Dude has practically stated you can kill it in the delivery room fer cyin’ out loud!
# 13 s
fair enough, but thanks to shillery we now have the phenomenon of “co-president” to consider with the donks, and imo that’s a legitamate issue to evaluate …
To hear Hillary tell it – she was the power behind the government..the wheels that turned the machine for goodness sakes.
One is bitter(?) and clings to her guns and religion and the other one is bitter and clings to her racist black liberation theology and hatred toward her country.
One has adopted children and wants to protect them. The other was punished with them and wants to kill them.
Anyone think Cindy McCain could run for her husbands vacant senate seat?
We know Cindy McCain has plenty of her own real work to do that will keep her nose out of my business. Michelle Obama can’t wait to mess with me and mine.
Nail has been hit on head. Just think how much experience Michelle will have when she’s finished.
The latest MSM take:
“Cindy McCain, is the mean, greedy, old, white lady that won’t tell us where she gets her money.”
“Michelle Obama, is the poor wife of the messiah, suffering under the cruel lash of the Romans.”
# 18 MP
nah, she has no reason to …
She will help her husband save our bitter mean souls. Praise be to her.
The article didn’t mention that Cindy McCain refuses to release her tax returns – unlike Michelle Obama. If someone wants to buy off John McCain, he just writes a check to Cindy and nobody is the wiser.
“Mrs. McCain has been on the trail mostly with her husband, occupying “more the Laura Bush model,” while Mrs. Obama is more in the “Teresa Heinz Kerry model” of assertiveness[gag]”
hm, how’d that work out for you, ter-raise-a?!
# 24
riiight, because cindy has no money whatsoever on her own …
/eyeroll
BWAAAAAAHHHAAAAAHHAAAAA
You need a brain scan you have a tumor. Oh, I forgot, you get new double secret evidence before the rest of the world does.
No wonder Michelle keeps you around. You are a wealth of information.
I’m not going to take the cheap shot, lgm, (I’m hoping that is camaraderie and not complete disdain there, soap) but, if anything, McCain should be personally “purchase” proof because of Cindy’s fortune.
He’s 71 years old. He’s married to an incredibly wealthy woman. Financial temptation is not what we have to worry about with John McCain. (His temper, otoh…I see Huckabee telling a witty joke at an NSC meeting and McCain cold cocking him with a strong right cross. It’ll play well on SNL.)
Cindy McCain is not in public office or running for public office. Her tax returns do not matter. (I bet the McCains have a pre-nup agreement, too.)
While i can agree that for being open, maybe they should release that…
MO used it as a political issue to show how “poor” and “unfortunate” they were. It wasnt disclosed by them in the interest of being open with people about things.
Hmm, let’s see.
One is a blond with big boobs who runs a beer distributorship and is married to a war hero.
The other is a bitter brunette lawyer married to another lawyer.
Still, wouldn’t you rather have a capable, sunny, cheerful, easy-on-the-eyes First Lady in Cindy McCain instead of a grievance-mongering, down-on-the-mouth Michelle Obama???
Which one stole money from her own charity to supply her own drug habit again? oh yea, Cindy McCain.
Barrack is henpecked ! She will have her nose and her BIG mouth in every decision he makes. If ya don’t believe that, then your smokin’ LGM medicine. Shes gonna MAKE herself the vice pres. no matter who he picks.
# 32
who then publically admitted it, made amends for it, endured legal penalties, and has been clean for many years …
/you really wanna go that route, anyone seen b. o. disavow toking up lately?
From TimesOnline:
It was in the late 1980s, after a series of miscarriages and giving birth to three children, that Cindy developed spinal problems and was prescribed painkillers after surgery. Her husband and family had no idea she was secretly taking pills stolen from a charity she had created called the American Voluntary Medical Team, which sent mobile surgical units to war zones. When federal agents began to investigate gaps in the charity’s records, Cindy telephoned her husband, a senator in Washington, and confessed.
She admitted at the time that the 1994 episode had “nearly destroyed both of us”. But she underwent treatment and attended meetings of Narcotics Anonymous as part of a deal with prosecutors who dropped charges.
So, Scooter. No props for Cindy who did NOT take money but drugs that she was addicted to. Addictions are a horrible thing and make you do stupid things. What is your excuse for NOT getting your facts straight just to bash a woman who has gone through some terrible ordeals – including a stroke? Addicted to pain killers or just mean?
just mean
one cheer for intellectual honesty
That we know little about Cynthia McCain is precisely the point, isn’t it? Last I heard, it’s her husband who’s running for president.
Those who think it’s unfair for Michelle Obama to take flak for her stupid comments and the arrogant, resentful, condescending and hate-filled outlook on life they reveal miss this critical point: you don’t see Cynthia McCain running around making stupid remarks and purposefully injecting herself into her husband’s campaign. That’s why she’s not an “issue” in the race, and Michelle Obama is.
And as I see it, neither is she injecting herself into the political process, unlike Ms. Obama. If the McCains do not file joint, she is under no obligation to show her tax returns anymore than lgm is.
Thats the point Regulus, Cindy M. is living the First Lady image and Michelle O. is a borderline anarchist. Whom do we prefer in the White House ? Cindy doesn’t sound like she wants to run the government at all. Michelle O. is just venom……..
Michelle and Cindy are both wives of a candidate, if one is being called out to release her tax returns, then they both should. What does she have to hide?
Yeah! Maybe she is taking money from Pfizer.
/sarc
once a pill head always a pill head…
I have no problem with Cindy not making her tax returns public. They did not file a join return.
MO doesn’t have a gracious bone in her body. She’s just another insecure woman using elitest demeanor to appear confident.
not that i’m trying to draw equivalence, but did te-raise-a ever release her returns?
/genuinely curious …
yes she did buck
# 41
m.o. & b.o. CHOSE to release their returns last month, which [imo] simply confirmed what we already knew — they are muli-millionaires, but still complain about the “system” — which makes them nothing more than dishonest hacks …
# 46
again, a choice she made as the wife of a candidate …
# 43
ok, that level of discourse would then force us to conclude “once a pothead always a pothead” about b.o. — not sure you wanna traverse that road …
Scooter you surprise me. When some Lib icon has to go to rehab(for the 8th time), all Leftys say how bad they feel for them. When more conservative people have similar problems, ya’ll hope they die from it. Double standard ?
so how are they different from the mccains again?
if you can’t see the difference you’re as blind as you are ignorant with lame comments.
# 51
puhleeze — John & Cindy thank God every day they’ve been able to succeed so hugely in the greatest country in the world — and would like to see others do so as well — THAT’S what’s different …
#50 i never wished cindy mccain would die
# 54
jmo, but sc was referring to the nutroots calls for Tony Snow’s death from cancer, etc. etc.
that wasn’t a good reference
My impression of Michelle Obama: she’s an over inflated blow up doll, and Cindy Mc895 is a model XL Stepford Wife. Cind must be a Stepford Wife, how else can one explain being married to Mc895 all these years and Michelle must be a blow up doll, how else can one explain Obama keeping her around.
and just when i think scooter has already lowered the discourse as far as it can go, along comes bb …
Once a cocaine attic…
the difference is the cocaine attic is running for president.
McCain served in the military
Obama served __________
I would keep going but you, Scooter, just are here to be “mean” (and I am holding my tongue).
I’m not a McCain fan, but when it comes to the choice of first lady, there’s no contest!
Cindy may not release her tax records. (Disturbing)
At least she’s not a Black Liberation Theology militant! AKA: Marxist!
I pray daily that B. Hussein’s wife never steps foot in our precious White House! (And it’s not racial. She could be green w/ purple spots.)
Her depressing views of this great nation, are appauling!
sambo, first learn to spell ADDICT ya mongoloid. secondly there’s an ex-addict in the white house already..go figure right?
gee, it took over 60 posts for the bds to erupt …
/eyeroll
Okay Scooter. First you lie about Cindy. Now, you prove your case or just shut up.
#60
Obama serves/represents the great people of Illinois…
# 65
or, at the very least, the loons in rev. wrong’s “church” …
/double eyeroll
Scooter, take another look at what ajmontana said about the difference between the McCains and the Obamas.
Please, you are either just terribly offensive or stupid in your posts. I think that you probably NEVER read anything that criticizes your socialist, America-hating Obamas.
I guess you are competing with lgm so I will see if I can make it more clear.
Difference between:
McCain served in the military and is a decorated war hero.
Did BO serve in the military and is he a decorated war hero? (check one)
[ ] yes
[ ] no
Now, a three year old can give an answer to this so I expect it should be easy enough for you now.
and your point soapy?
If Barrack brings Michelle into the White House, I think we’ll end up using the old Carter MISERY INDEX again. Cause thats what we’ll be livin’, misery………
some of them anyway.
Rev Wright
Ottis Moss
Tony Rezko
ect…
You are a waste of time. Cornered and can’t answer a simple question when you asked.
I should have bought a clue.
soapy you dont have a point, except for the one on your head. Based on the question you posed..it almost sounds like you voted for Kerry based on that criteria alone..but somehow i don’t think you did.
On May 13th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, lgm said:
The article didn’t mention that Cindy McCain refuses to release her tax returns – unlike Michelle Obama. If someone wants to buy off John McCain, he just writes a check to Cindy and nobody is the wiser.
spoken like a true ass!
# 73
the point is service to country is ONE ASPECT of a candidate’s character — one JSM possesses in spades, one b.o. completely lacks — jon kary’s laughable self-serving “tour of duty” is a whole ‘nother way of evaluating said character …
The wives are not running and the veep is nothing to base you vote on, either.
Let me see if I understand lgm and the loonie left.
Cindy McCain who currently holds no public office, nor has she ever, admitted to becoming addicted to pain medication prescribed for a spinal problem. AND SHE IS BAD.
Barack Obama admits to drinking under-age and snorting cocaine, he does hold public office, but HE ISN’T BAD.
Liberals are morons.
#75, is it because Kerry isn’t in your political party that you have to insult his service, why do YOU hate the troops buck?
#77, you forgot stealing from her own charity…STEALING FROM HER CHARITY…yes, i forgive her. It’s time you let it go as well.
If we want to keep up the tit for tat, Tah-rais-ah didn’t have to show her tax report, but she did. Good for her. Cindy doesn’t have to show her tax report, so shes not. Good for her. George W. didn’t have to show his service record, but he did. Good for him. John Kerry refused to release HIS service records. Goo…….oh wait.
# 78
niiiice projection there …
jon kary insulted his own service by parading around the country with a bunch of fellow frauds and poseurs after he returned stateside, THEN compounded the insult when he knowingly and willfully distorted his record in an attempt to capture the presidency, AND sealed his fate when he attempted to smear those who had served honorably and were letting the public know the truth about his lies …
# 80 sc
fwiw, the fact that kary claimed he would release and, 4 years later, HASN’T — that’s the part i find poor …
Scooter – your point? You started the bashing with Cindy and now you tell us it is time to “let it go”? AJ is right, you are worse than lgm.
P.S Kerry is no war hero and I was never more glad when his “war record” was exposed.
I actually agree with Buck on most of what’s here. Not bad.
Scooter, I’m not sure what’s worse. Your personal attacks on people, or the rate of inaccuracies you fire out of your mouth. I don’t think you’re intelligent enough to answer this thread with anything other than “mongoloid” and somehow, I’m almost sure you had to ask someone else what it meant. The best you’ve come up with is slew of one liners that seek to belittle other people with whom you disagree, with nothing else than your inept wit to back it up.
Go back under your bridge. You’re more like troll-lite.
To refute your position, like intelligent people do and you’ve so far managed to avoid, your rationale should have kept Bill “I didn’t inhale” Clinton out of the house.
Once a pot head, always a pot head, yes?
Your rationale would keep Obama out of the White House.
Once a coke head, always a coke head, yes?
I could do this all day.
By your assessment, Scooter, the difference between McCain (whom I detest) and Obama is grossly ignorant. Your comparison looks like something a third grader came up with. Those 2 things have nothing to do with one another, and yet you chose to quote it. Fine, they both are types of service. That’s like comparing a waiter at a 4 star restaurant with a person working the counter at McDonalds (and i’m not knocking those folks either, but bear with me). There really isnt a comparison, other than they are both in a service industry. They don’t really compare otherwise.
You’re an embarassment. If you keep posting, I’m going to have to knock your little house of cards down again. You don’t like conservatives. You apparently don’t care for facts or anything remotely intelligent. We get it.
So again, back under your bridge, mini troll. I’m done with you. Unless, of course, you like being made a fool of in public by your betters. If that’s the case, I’m more than happy to oblige. So back off soap a little, i dont think they deserved some of the cheap shots you were taking.
On May 13th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, Scooter36 said:
Moderator?
i love conservatives..i’d love it if one of them were running for POTUS.
# 86
well then, ya shoulda made an impact in the primaries then …
Sadly, I agree. I would too.
Take all the cheap shots at me you like. I will take issue with anybody who wants to belittle a person who has gone through as much as Cindy has (and lied about it to boot). At least she has set up a worthy chairty. Something I am sure scooter is going to do, and do one better for sure.
For once I agree with Irish Rose. Moderator?
soap, its kewl…sorry, got in defensive mode for a second
John Kerry Kohn Heinz is an admitted war criminal.
He has acknowledged committing atrocities against civilians.
Shouldn’t he be in prison lib-tards?
# 91 l
i dunno, wouldn’t leavanworth simply reject jon kary?
No Rose…I think he was talking about Clinton.
“leavenworth” –d’oh!
Michelle Obama Suicide Watch
If Michelle Obama had 1/4 the class as Cindy McCain it would improve her image 10 fold. A first lady she is not, not by a long shot. imho of course, which is shared by quite a large number of people.
i wonder if Carol McCain would agree with you ajmontana…DOUBT IT!
Scooter #43
Stated about Cindy McCain once a pill head always a pill head.
Obama admited to using cocaine, once a coke head, always a coke head.
Obama isn’t bullett proof and the Left doesn’t GET IT that this is only a primary the National Election will look alot different.
Scooter #78
Kerry gave up what little claim he had to be considered a veteran when he lied before Congress about war crimes in Vietnam
I can’t wait Laree!