Beyonce’s new brand of pedophilia chic
If you thought the soft-porn image of Disney teen queen Miley Cyrus—wearing nothing but ruby-stained lips and a bedsheet—in Vanity Fair magazine was disturbing, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
Pop diva Beyoncé Knowles, 27, and her fashion designer mother have launched a girls clothing line that makes Miley’s bare-backed glam session look like a Shirley Temple photo shoot.
The Knowles’ family business, “House of Dereon,” recently published advertisements for its “Dereon Girls Collection” with young models who look no older than my second-grade daughter. They are seductively posed and tarted up, JonBenet Ramsey-style, with bright lipstick, blush and face powder. Draped in bling, several of the girls sport leather jackets and studded accessories.
One of the children wears sparkly, killer high heels (more pint-size Pussycat Doll than Dorothy from “The Wizard of the Oz”) and another slouches, gangsta gal-style, with a neon pink boa, leopard-skin fedora and stilettos. An even younger model is a toddler-aged Beyoncé Mini-Me with huge hair, skinny jeans, spike-heeled leather boots and attitude to match:
Abercrombie & Fitch prompted an outrage a few years ago with its line of thongs for elementary school girls and pedophilia chic catalogues. And, of course, Calvin Klein started it all with 15-year-old Brooke Shields purring that “Nothing comes between me and my Calvins.” But the House of Dereon photo spread sinks even lower. It’s sick and it’s wrong, and it’s not social conservatives who first said so. Fashion and celebrity websites have been buzzing with outrage over the past week:
“Pimp my kid,” decried one blogger. “Dereon Girls ad too adult,” concluded another. Gossip king Perez Hilton polled readers on whether the ad was appropriate. The overwhelming consensus: Hell, no.
The creepiness factor is heightened by the fact that women were responsible for marketing this child exploitation. I’d ask: “Where was Beyoncé’s mother to tell her daughter to wipe all the gunk off the Dereon models’ faces?” But Beyoncé’s mother—who has helped manage the “Bootylicious” singer’s career from childhood—is her eager and willing partner in crime.
As for the mothers of this new crop of Little Girls Gone Wild models, they were undoubtedly thrilled to see their daughters painted up and posing like Victoria’s Secret angels-in-training. If we’ve learned anything from Lindsay Lohan and her hard-partying mother, it’s that the Lolita-posing apple doesn’t fall far from the bosom-flaunting tree.
So, what’s next? Nine-year-olds performing stripper routines? Oh, wait. It’s been done already. I saw that very nightmare last fall on the cable TV reality show “Keeping Up with the Kardashians”—featuring the grade-school-age daughters of Olympic star Bruce Jenner strapping on stilettos and twirling around a stripper pole in their parents’ bedroom as friends and family cheered them on. Future House of Dereon clients, no doubt.
Beyoncé’s clothes, you should know, are available at Macy’s department stores and other “fine” establishments willing to carry titillating tot wear. Shame on them all. Shame them all. It’s time to redouble our efforts to fight back against the Forever 21 culture that poisons Hollywood, Halloween, prom season and every season in between. In our indecent world, 7 has become the new 21.
Shouldn’t a child’s innocence last longer than a porn star’s .25-ounce pot of lip gloss?
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Vicki, the liberal positon is thus:
If something is immoral the liberal twists like a pretzel to support it. It is either a RIGHT to be immoral, or there is no real harm they’ll say. You are just an uptight Neo-Con trying to force your religion on people. If it feels good, do it. You can always go to Planned Parenthood for a freebie later.
Dude, that picture is worth 1000 words, none of them good.
I expect to be eviscerated for saying it, but on top of all layers of disturbing things (that I absolutely agree with and am greatly saddened by) I notice one other.
The little Asian girl – I’m wildly guessing that is supposed to be some kind of Spanish/Flamenco/Bullfighting sort of get up. But her shoes, aside from the height of the heel look very much to me like the Lotus shoes Chinese women wore after the foot-binding process…and all that that implies.
On May 14th, 2008 at 10:29 am, Rusty said:
I don’t have
any childrena brain, or a lick of common sense, so that might contribute to me not getting this, but could someone please tell me why these clothes are so terrible? Other than their general ugliness of course.Thre, fixed…
Just as an amusing aside…
the firewall here at work is set to block out “objectionable” content, ya know, like porn and stuff.
I cant click on the House Of Dereon link, its blocked.
Thought that was slightly telling, and amusing.
I’m not surprised. Just like I am not surprised when people try and defend the AG who killed himself on the To Catch a Predator show and complain the show is entrapment. I am thankful that show was aired, it showed in no uncertain terms just how prevalent pedophilia is in this country and thanks to people like Michelle and countless others for reporting on it so those asleep at the wheel can try and stop this train before it crashes.
Not suprised as he defends college sex week. This is the result of defining deviancy down. Soon it will be be college kiddie porn week and those of us that oppose it will be derided as sexually frustrated conservative prudes.
BTW, I have a Macy’s card (which I rarely use) I will be taking this opportunity to cut it up into small pieces and send it to their marketing department with a letter explaining that their promotion of this product line is the reason. They are free to market this filth and I am free to shop elsewhere. I love capitalism!
This is just disgusting. I have a 10 year old and a 4 year old, both girls. My husband is 6′6 tall and I’m 5′11. My kids have no choice in their height. They look older because of how tall they are. My 10 year old looks 14-15, but over my dead body she will leave this house with:
1) Short shorts or short skirts.
2) Short shirts that show the belly.
3) No wearing make-up until 16.
4) No shaving your legs until 12.
5) Platform shoes or any shoes with a heel.
6) When my daughters are done developing, THERE WILL BE NO CLEAVAGE TO BE SEEN!
My daughters don’t have one piece of clothing that isn’t offensive. And if they get something for their birthdays or Christmas that I find offensive, I’m not afraid to ask for the receipt to exchange the gift. Kids need to be kids! This just came to mind. A quote from Theodore Roosevelt:
“It is no use to preach to [children] if you do not act decently yourself.”
If anything happens to children that proudly wears clothing that makes them look like a whore, then it’s the parents fault and they should be punished!
I knew what you meant, just wanted to help out
And thank you for being a role model for your children.
Copy that. Kudos momm1e!
and btw, I think Chris Hanson should get a medal for taking these perverts down.
Another sign of societies loss of morals and values…Gomorrah ring a bell.
Left wing morals and values, none.
When I first looked at this ad, my eyes scanned right past the little black and white girls. I focused right on the little Asian girl dressed up like a cheap whore, and my heart broke.
Most of the Asian-American girls I have known over the years have been impeccably raised (extremely civil, usually tops in their academic class and/or highly proficient in the musical arts.
I think to myself, why in the world would Beyonce want to debase such a predominately successful cultural example like Asian Americans, and pull these bright, talented and polite girls down to her “hooker” culture level?
What benefit does this poor fashion experiment provide, other than to Beyonce Knowles’ pocketbook?
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ugh..lets rush to defend people caught on tape as being pedophiles.
Thank you alaskangrizzly. I was fired up and my fingers were typing a little to fast.
BrianNY,
I understand the sentiment of your post. However, I have to take issue with the “it’s okay for the black and white little girls to be exploited but asians, no way.” This is unacceptable. Period. Regardless of their nationalities.
Additionally, I had the opposite reaction, all I saw were little black girls dressed in this provocative way. I just don’t see many other families buying into this. I could be wrong. It wouldn’t be the first time.
Just know you aren’t alone. Very, very similar rules in our house.
The only times my 15yr-old has worn make-up is for dance-team (required) and for a dance that she went to with a bunch of female friends – and the friends’ parents have similar standards as we do. Another blessing, my teenager has chosen good friends to hang around with.
I thought parents were to protect their children’s innocence, and not try to profit from it. I think Shameful is too light a word.
Teen pregnancy has gone down.
Perhaps Planned Parenthood is losing its calling and shout outs for funds.
Sick Agendas are surely in place.
Maybe this will help Michelle Obama’s kid’s
This world has become so completely backwards! First, we have adults engaging in cuddle-fests; next, we have kids dressing like whores!
Only if this is part of their investment portfolio.
Kids have gotten school confused with a popularity contest. My 10 year old’s friends tell her that I’m to strict. I tell my daughter that she needs to be thankful that her Mom has common sense and they can stick their comments up their rear ends. My daughter has a 12 year old friend that we see at church every weekend and it never fails that she comes to church wearing make-up. I’m talking foundation, mascara, the works. I tell her every Sunday that she is to beautiful to be wearing all that make-up. She told me once that her Mom told her that she looks more beautiful with it on. WTH? Parents are out of control! Now she has a boyfriend and has moved out of Mom’s house to live with her Dad who gives her more “freedom”. I about threw up. Some parents need a slap on the head and to stop looking up to these horrid role models on t.v. and magazines.
The clothes typify “ghetto fabulous,” which is obnoxious but not offensive. What’s offensive is the AD. It looks like John Mark Carr’s tribute to “Superfly.” The boas, the makeup, the hair, the suggestive poses, and the mega-high heels are completely out of line for these little girls. Shame on everyone involved.
And if I ever see any mom walking along with a little girl wearing those disgusting “Under Construction/Ready For Action” shirts, I’m going to give her a piece of my mind. I don’t have kids but I hate, hate, hate how younger and younger children are being sexualized. This has been the plan of the radical left (I know, I’ve read their lit) and the pedophile industry all along.
#113 30 pieces said:
We agree on sentiment, and I don’t think “it’s okay for black and white little girls to be exploited” as well.
I simply accept that, unlike the Asian-American social experiment, a large number of white girls, and an exponentially larger number of black girls have been lost to the culture wars for a long time now.
From 1965 to present, white single parenthood has grown from roughly 15% to 30%. In the same period, black single parenthood has grown from roughly 30% to 75%.
In the past 25 years, Asian Americans, some with only pennies to their name after they flee communist persecution abroad, have achieved such high aptitudes for higher education…that they are actually penalized in many college application processes because their representation is too LARGE! Talk about penalizing success!
I feel bad for the plight of black and white culture in America these days, but when you have people, from Oprah to Rusty, excusing deviancy as “cute” and constantly asking “what’s the big deal,” my money is on the success of viable cultures like Asian Americans which mostly have no time for inefficient, liberal philosophies.
Mommie # 106. You have the same values as my parents and myself. I wish other parents would have those same values.
Just and FYI… A couple of months ago I went to Justice for Girls and there was a table full of string bikini underwear for young girls (they start at age 6!) I complained to the manager and she told me that if I thought that was bad their sister store Limited Too has underwear with “pads in them”. I did not want to think what she meant. No $$$ going to those stores or the company (that includes Bath and Body Works and White Barn Candle Co.)
I have a 7 year old and the pressure is on! She wants Bratz dolls (which I banned), Libby Lu crap, etc. We send her to a Catholic school (our public school is CRAP!) where thank Almighty God she wears a uniform (and yes the skirt is at or below the knee!) so I do not have to deal with the fashionistas!
I do not comment very often as I would like. It is nice to know that there are other parents with values like mine out there!
Thanks for the vent! ARRRGGGHHH!!!
I have to say that this does seem to be true. Too many mothers don’t want to be moms, they want to be buddies. They want to be the Gilmore Girls. It is not appropriate and it is not a healthy way to raise a child.
Dittos in my home.
I have it doubly rough…I’m a single mom. Thankfully, her dad and step mother both have the same rules I do..we are consistant from home to home.
Thank you M0mm1e0f2G1rls ! I am so glad I am not the only one with rules similar to these.
Our rules are:
-No pierced ears until age 10.
-No skirts that go higher than the mid-thigh. (about where your fingertips are if you put your hands to your side)
No make up until age 14. And it comes in stages! First – we’ll allow lip gloss and blush. Then at 15 powder, eye shadow and mascara. Then at 16 eyeliner. No foundation.
-No shirts that show mid riff or cleavage will ever be allowed while the girls live with us.
-Nothing skin tight!
-No tube tops
-No buying clothes at the following stores: (and we live by this right now!)
Abercrombie and Fitch
Aeropostale
Hollister
Victoria’s Secret
* the list will be added to as the girls get older.
Of course, my girls are 7 and 5 but I have already thought of these.
I will be guiding their dress/attire as they are older, just like I have so far in their lives. It’s more than just saying they can’t wear this stuff – it’s making sure the kids understand why. That includes making sure my son understands why he should not date girls who dress that way (that might mean he never dates in the future!)
Pretty much everything I would say has already been said. My parenting plan is to raise my daughters to realize that clothing such as this is just plain tacky and stupid. Neither of them would be caught dead in it.
What’s next? Pre-stained blue dresses for Prom? You can have that Presidential look without all really having “seck shoe all relations with THAT WOMAN Mizz Lewinsky”.
Mom I’m still a virgin, but my dress makes people think I’m experienced!!!
#121 – BrianNY. I completely agree. Unfortunately, those are the cold hard facts that we face.
As for the black communities, it’s so ingrained and just permeates in every aspect of the culture that I am afraid all, is indeed – lost.
Oprah is a such a hypocrite and such a celeb. She decided on South Africa to build the school because as she says,
Yet, back home it’s a culture that she helps to facilitate.
This really does not surprise me,considering Bratz became the rage several years ago.Do you see what those dolls look like? prostitutes on botox.I always wondered why any parent would buy a doll like that for their daughter? We have such a difficult time finding clothes for our daughter who only dresses modestly and in skirts and dresses.Even in places like Target and Walmart the skirts barely cover the bottom and the majority of the clothes are tight,hip hugging and trampy looking.Once in a blue moon you can find a cute sun dress or something,but not too often.I think it’s sad that parents have so little influence or control in their kids life that they allow this.Ditto #30 I can’t believe how many times I go to the store and you see people walking around in their p.j.’s.I once heard a sermon and there was mention of the more pagan a culture becomes the less clothing they wear.It’s definately a thought.
Beyonce’s Mommy is a fashion designer and I’m a Chinese aviator.
Because your daughter is a hottie you get to be a “fashion designer”?
I suppose her father is a “music video producer”?
We do know that Daddy dearest comes from the Michelle Obama school of BITTERNESS.
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/20/015623.php
farmgal #129–
). The Bratz are just spoiled kids whose parents buy them all their “cool” accessories. Talk about a marketing ploy…
I wholly agree. My daughter will not play with Bratz. It’s not just the clothes, it’s their whole image. At least Barbie has a job (several, actually
CFreiberg,
Your not the only one. There are still many of us with good values. I don’t allow Brats dolls in my home either. I use to think my parents were crazy with their rules. Now those rules are in my home. My Mom cried when I thanked her for raising me with good values. It’s obvious that the good old rules and values still work if we are angry about smut like these little girls in this blog and others like them.
Pulchritudinous Patriot,
Keep up the good work!
jenmom,
The make-up should always come in stages. I totally agree with you. My daughter is only allowed chap stick right now. At 16 she will only be able to have light shades of lip stick/lip gloss, light shades of eye shadow and mascara. That is it. I will not let her look like she is going to some night club when she is going to school. I forgot to add the boys part. NO BOYFRIENDS UNTIL 16! And only if they have good grades. If the grades fall while they have a boyfriend, the boyfriend goes bye-bye. I will make sure I have a good Mother/Daughter relationship with them also so they make wise decisions about sex. To many girls go off to were ever to have sex. My Mom raised me right. I don’t care what anybody says. I was a virgin until I was 17 and I’m proud of that. I find it sick that girls are loosing their virginity at 11-12. BAD PARENTING!
Rusty, if you dress a child as an adult, you are saying you no longer consider them children, but adults.
And – therefore – they can be treated as adults. For better or worse.
What this sort of dress – or the Miley Cyrus photo, or that prom dress – shows is that it’s okay to treat children like adults, and it’s okay to sexualize them ’cause, hey, it’s what adults do.
As for pedophilia, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that many often get their jollies looking at stuff like this on the Internet. And even if pedophiles go after who they know, it cannot be helpful or discouraging to them to see girls tarted up.
Kids and teens should be preoccupied with school, with playing, with hanging out with friends. Not with imitating adults or mimicking celebrity dress.
I don’t allow the Bratz in my home either. Both of my girls know why, too.
Bratz…ick.. I call them the Slutz
Sheesh,
I want the other moms to know how much those of us who are kid-less yet appreciate their perspective. We’re looking at the state of things today and wondering how we will ever combat this garbage when we do bring children into this world. And boys too! It’s not just girls who need to understand the worth of their bodies.
It also serves to demonstrate how drastically (and unfortunately) times have changed—I’ve had pierced ears since I was 2 (I’m pushing 33) and it smacks of Sharia to me to forbid it altogether.
Just shot off an email to Macy’s. If this line isn’t pulled, they’ll never get my money again!
I’m linking Michelle’s story to every mom I know.
This is DISTURBING on several levels!!!
On May 14th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, englishqueen01 said:
Kids and teens should be preoccupied with school, with playing, with hanging out with friends. Not with imitating adults or mimicking celebrity dress.
VERY WELL SAID!
This has been the plan of the radical left (I know, I’ve read their lit) and the pedophile industry all along.
What are you talking about here? This is nothing new. Look how the girls dressed in the Little Rascals. Their shirts were much skimpier. And who but little girls wear boas? They might have been sexy at one point, now they look silly. Where are your priorities? We have American children going with out food and medicine and we worry about how they dress. Yes, those t-shirts are horrible, but how does it affect anyone else?
FYI,
If you go to the “Change they don’t deserve” story on this blog, scroll down to the Macy’s advertisement on the right and hit “shop” you can see the House of Dereon collection. I didn’t go through everything, but I did see that all of the models were adults. Not sure where the kids are, and don’t really care to spend any more time on it.
i would reference the rest of the postings here as to how it affects people. i’m sure there’s something to be learned there.
On May 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, caligulajones said:
We have American children going with out food and medicine and we worry about how they dress. Yes, those t-shirts are horrible, but how does it affect anyone else?
This particular topic is about “fashion” or lack of it. It doesn’t have to do with the starving kids. I’m sure we all care about that issue too. It affects parents that have been raised with good values and know right from wrong. It is wrong to have a CHILD dress like they are adults. Period. It affects me when I see children dressed like whores. There are a lot of sick people in the world and when parents let their kids dress provocatively they should be held accountable for what ever happens to that child.
A lot of this could go away if some parents weren’t so preoccupied with being their kids best friend. They will make their OWN friends. What they need is PARENTS ! Ya know, guidance ?
Caligulajones, there are no children in this country without food or healthcare unless their liberal parents are retarded.
Beyonce selling slutty clothes has no relationship to liberals too stupid to feed their own offspring.
Haven’t seen it in a little while but from what I recall they looked like little girls.
Strippers?
Please post some specific examples (i.e. not Democrat talking points) This country has plenty of social welfare programs for those in need. If there are any I wouldn’t be suprised to find that their parents are the type that buy this garbage for their kids.
caligulajones – I’m with abstractmind on this. We have spent an sfternoon discussing this issue. Try reading some of the numerous previous posts, perhaps your answer is in there.
RR,
The fact that it has to be explained at all – is quite telling.
caligulajones #139
Have you heard of child prostitution?
Trust me, our nation’s poor are REALLY poor. They drive up to food banks in Cadillacs then complain that you won’t give them $ for gas. (Yes, I personally witnessed that!)
Correction:
“aren’t REALLY poor”
Too true.
What can we expect when we have beauty pagents for made up 7 year olds, and women put heavy make up on their children in dance and cheer leading competition?? The only thing I can say about the pictures is that they look rediculous, like any young child looks playing “dress up” in make up, and mom’s high heel shoes. This is also the natural outcome of a Country that has lost its ability to be judgmental. Everything is “relative”; there is no right or wrong anymore, no bright lines drawn. PC’ness rules everything.
The free market will of course reveal whether this is as dumb as it looks when the clothes sell or they don’t. My guess is that in today’s sick society, the clothes will sell. This is just another symptom of a Country that morally speaking, lost its way 4 decades ago.
I may be wrong, but it appears that Caligulajones gets off on Little Rascals videos.
This stuff looks ridiculous enough, but “pedophilia chic”? Really, Michelle?
The kids look like they’re in costumes. Certainly none of them look “sexy”. I’m not seeing how these ads are charged with some sort of pedophilic fantasy element.
The makeup and hairstyles are over-the-top, but they’re trying to draw attention to the horrendous product. The “beauty pageant” nonsense that has little girls parading around in makeup on-stage feels far more perverse than the images on this catalogue. Someone mentioned the late Jon-Benet. That cultural phenomenon is disgusting.
There were so many tenuous connections made in the original post that this feels like guilt by association. These are costumes. Ludicrous oddities. In other words, typical “fashion” that most little girls will never wear.
It isn’t criminal. It isn’t titillating. It isn’t important. I can’t work up any rage on this one.
And, I am a dad. I’ve been a dad for a very looooong time. My youngest daughter attempted to wear a single piece of a two piece top today (the outer shirt without the underlying tank top) and before she could eat her first byte of Cheerios, her mother and I were telling her that she would have to change. We had some discussion about modesty and appropriate school wear and, after the cereal, she changed and went to school. So, no, I am not some easygoing lax father who would let his daughter dress however she would like.
When is the last time you saw someone who wasn’t in a music video or on a TV show wearing a leopard skin fedora or a pink boa?
Seductively posed? Maybe you see it that way. I see kids being put into adult costumes for the purpose of selling clothes, not sex.
It makes me think of the old Bedazzler commercials.
Not that this is innocent. The little models are certainly being exploited, but name an underage model (or celebrity) that isn’t?
#139 caligulajones said:
Where are YOUR priorities? We have Islamic daughters getting stabbed, stomped and shot to death because of misogynistic parenting…and you worry about American children going without food and medicine?
You insensitive cad! Get your priorities straight!
I said “byte”. What a nerd. I meant “bite”.
They look like kids dressed in the “costume” of being adult, which they are not. Which is why it’s inappropriate. I don’t see the pedophilic fantasty element in any children, regardless of how they’re dressed…
I don’t know about that. It seems like plenty of people here have stories about little girls with make up and clothing that is much too “mature” for them.
Excellent. But it’s because you appear to be a caring, concerned father that I cannot understand your take on this thread.
That is not an argument against this issue, it’s a very large part of the problem. Little girls should not be dressing like pop stars.
Don’t project librocrat.
And rightwingmom, where do you live? Not a cut but here in Jersey, I have seen many people at food banks with not enough money for a bus. I know people who work full time and have no insurance. I am not saying the answer is socialized medicine, but something should be done.
As a father this concerns me and thankfully I have boys. I would be scared to death to have girls. The clothes today are inappropriate and one of the worst T-shirts I have come across was on a girl about 12 that read Future MILF now thats disgusting and feel the parents are also to blame.
Where are YOUR priorities? We have Islamic daughters getting stabbed, stomped and shot to death because of misogynistic parenting…and you worry about American children going without food and medicine?
What’s with all the name calling? Yes that is a problem, also. We have child abuse from all people. All of it is wrong. And how is wanting to give food and medicine to people who need it make me an insensitive cad?
I concede that we have a lot of working poor here in NJ. However, the problem lies with, and is the government. It is not the solution. Taxes are what’s killing us here in NJ.
Additionally, you do not know why these people are at the Food Banks. But what are you complaining about here? You should be thank God for the food banks instead of resorting to the line of thinking that the government needs to do something.
Lastly, this thread is about little girls be outfitted to look like street-walkers, if this doesn’t enrage you, fine. Just stop with the threadjack…
you should be thanking God.
Why not? If it’s costume. My son is dressing like Indiana Jones quite often these days. He’s dresses like a soldier a lot, also. I’m not going to stop him because it makes him look like an adult.
What’s wrong with a sequined jacket? Aside from the sheer ugliness. Silly hats are a problem? And, yes, high heels are not appropriate (for health reasons at a minimum,) but I doubt there is a market for such an impractical shoe for this age group.
Look, I’m not supporting putting makeup on a child or dressing them provocatively. But the latest fashion just isn’t that important. It is nothing more than fleeting taste. What seems fashionable today will be passe tomorrow.
The way I will be addressing this issue is not to buy the clothes. I’ll express my scorn for it, sure. Not because it is somehow inappropriately titillating or provocative, but because it looks atrocious.
It’s a trap. Women do this so they can slap men with sexual harassment suits or worse when they biologically naturally react to all the “stimulation”. It’s a fuel source for their cosntant sense of victimhood.
I’m sure you’re not, but I sincerely hope you are not referring to a “biological natural reaction” to the “stimulation” of children in inappropriate clothes… which is what this thread is about.
that’s fair, if you can answer one question.
Would you, outside of an event like halloween, or something where kids would dress in a “costume”, send your kids to school with this stuff on? The grocery store, perhaps? To grandma’s house?
Because this is being marketed not as a costume or something to throw on during halloween, but something they wear in public, as their -normal- dress.
Kids dressing up is nothing new. But this is a different scope, and scale, than just a simple edition of “dress like your favorite movie star” at home.
I believe that is the fundamental issue I have with your argument.
Tacky, tasteless, disgusting, no class. I’m sure someone,somewhere thought that would be hilariously funny.
This is an easy one to agree on, shortbeachUSMC. I’m right there with you.
How about just plain “ho”?
Does Beyonce realize she’s embarrassing herself? I can’t imagine any mother in their right mind to dress up their little girls in these outfits.
I hear you, abstractmind. The clothes are ugly, but not really a problem for me. (Though I can’t imagine what they cost or parting with my hard earned cash for them.)
I have a problem with the makeup. I have a problem with the stilletos. If the clothes were along the lines of short short spangly spaghetti strap dress, I would have a problem with it. Those are definitely things that would only be allowed, if at all, as a costume.
But these clothes are jackets and jeans and silly hats. Would I dress my kid in them? No. But that’s because I think they’re ugly, not because I think they’re overtly sexual.
My original comments (you should have seen them before I edited!) were more about Michelle tossing in all of the other titillating stuff like A&F thongs and that stupid prom dress from a couple of days ago and Miley Cyrus’ Vanity Fair photo with this catalogue cover. She even threw in the stripper pole incident from last Halloween. It felt like an effort to pump up the outrage. In the context of this photo, it all rang false and forced.
It’s just my take. We all have opinions. This is just one of them.
and thats fair, and an opinion you’re entitled to, and one that was decently written. no argument there.
i think that what michelle was trying to do was show the progression of things as they have occured. i think, in some way, that they all connect together, showing the general thought of what is going on in our culture and that these are things that we dont have to rage over, but that should offend some of our sense of decency and should provoke the response that pervades the thread: that good parents don’t tolerate the desensitizing of our children and families with this type of dress.
just my 2 on that
Off topic: I’ve witnessed too many abuses of charity work. Kids in $100 sneakers and cell phones receiving Christmas gifts from my kids in $14 Walmart shoes and home haircuts. (We’re in TX, but I’m sure this abuse is nationwide.)
True, there are those in need, and I’m willing to help. EX. Friends and I raised $140 for homebound pregnant lady and her HUSBAND. I bought a week’s worth of groceries and delivered it to them. They were blessed beyond words. But it wasn’t charity, it was a gift to a friend in need.
We need to see the difference between NEED and WANT!
On topic: The girls in the ad look ready to walk the streets, if they can take one step in those ridiculous heels!
On May 14th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, DougT said:
Why not? If it’s costume. My son is dressing like Indiana Jones quite often these days. He’s dresses like a soldier a lot, also. I’m not going to stop him because it makes him look like an adult.
I don’t find that very fair. We are talking about girls that dress provocitavley, costume or not. Indiana Jones and a soldier? Please. Would you let your boys dress like a pimp? That is where we are going. Boys have the same issues as girls in the dress department. Look at all these boys that think its “fashion” to show their boxers with there pants barley holding on under their butts. Would you allow your sons to dress like that? It all comes down to proper dress apparel. Girls will look at t.v. and magazines and think they would like to look like them. I’ve seen trash like shear shirts with their bras showing! That is tacky. I know for sure that if some boy thinks he can walk into my home asking for my daughter dressed in an inappropriate way, his ass is getting kicked out. So parents of boys need to think of dress apparel also.
One more thing:
What do we tell the boys who look at this “slutty” attire? They are supposed to get that “special feeling” in their pants? Please!
Slutty clothes, horny boys, unplanned pregnancies, donations by racists to Planned Parenthood. Beyonce and her mother should be proud! (sarc.)
Correction again: They AREN’T supposed to get that “special feeling.”
Ok, I know I’m an old fart, but how does gum-in-a-snuff-can tie in w/a tall mediocre “singer”?
- martin.musculus
Beyonce is just one more deluded pop star fool who believes her hype. “Hey I’m beautiful and RICH, and I dress like a slut, so why don’t I go ahead ane EMPOWER all the little girls to be just like me!”
The lady is a tramp.
Oh, I agree on the ways that boys dress these days, momm1eof2Girls.
No, I would not let my son wear pants down around his thighs.
I also don’t believe that that particular look appears to be very adult or sexual. It looks childish and silly. Yes, I have laughed out loud at the sight of guys who dress this way. It’s a genuine response. It just looks funny to me. The boxer-showing look (I don’t know what it’s called) is one of those classics that went from supposedly cool to caricature in a single moment.
We can’t stop stupid fashion trends. But we can do our part to try, like you have done by keeping ill dressed boys away. That’s about the best we can do.
I did say “If it’s costume”, too.
I was wondering if I would be called out on that. You caught me twisting the argument a bit.
uhh,, Isn’t Beyonce’s Dad a man of the cloth?
I wonder what he has to say about his little girl bouncing her behind onstage globally and teaming up with Mom to make a few geeters selling “kiddie” attire?
I saw Michelle called a ‘priss’ elsewhere over this report.
That says a lot, in and of itself, about the state of this world and its warped priorities.
I’m sorry DougT, I did see your other comments and agree with parts of your points. My point was that costume or not, dressing like a provocative adult, making a child look like a provocative adult is inappropriate. Dressing like a soldier is a respectable costume. But that is what I got from your comment is that they dress like this in costume, not to go to school or an outing. These girls above look like they are in costume and it’s tacky. They are selling crap like this for girls to wear to school or out and about. The low cut shirts, high heels, make-up. But where does it stop? The next thing these girls will be wearing are Daisy Dukes or short short skirts. I hope I made that more clear. I tend to type fast than my brain thinks to get my point across.
I certainly see the impact of the culture’s weight on my grandchildren. It makes a full-time job to counter it. I’m not complaining — it’s my job and I’m honored to undertake it with appropriate solemnity.
However, I *do* see how the sewerization of our culture disadvantaged the side of modesty. There are too many wainshadows of humanity who simply capitulate to the media-driven herd.
Often, I have been called hard names, (by adults, believe it or not…), because I “abuse” my grandchildren by not folding to every whim.
BTW, what is wrong with Bootilicious gum? I know it comes in what amounts to a snuff-can, but my grandson, (the gum-eater in my son’s house), hasn’t even *heard* of snuff, so I don’t really see it as a problem. Is it simply that Beyounce started that brand?
I admit that I haven’t paid Hollywood the attention I might have, but watching them dash faster and faster to self-destruction, I’d honestly thought that they’d take care of themselves.
I might have been mistaken, not keeping an eye their pummeling of the general culture. It is simply after I read/hear abt them, I just feel there isn’t enough hot-shower water in all the world to set things aright.
- martin.musculus
The Hannah Montana line at Macy’s is just as bad.
I love that.
I don’t know anything about Bootylicious gum, but I think “Bootylicious” is a song by Beyoncé (or her former group) and the term is slang for booty and delicious. I believe it is the song to which she was referring.
I just don’t understand the motivation for people who are already fabulously wealthy to get even more fabulously wealthy by promoting stuff like this. Before Beyonce got fabulously wealthy, when she was just a normal teen girl, would she have thought this was appropriate? What is it about the entertainment industry that screws people up so bad?
And CommentGuy on #47, that is one of the worst pics I’ve ever seen. WTF kind of person thinks up a shirt like that for a child, much less designs it, produces it, markets it, and sells it, and ultimately buys it? That’s really foul.
I had thought we’d sunk to the bottom when mags like Maxim and FHM were holding monthly countdowns to when the Olsen twins would be 18, but I was wrong. There was a story the other day that Hugh Hefner offered Miley Cyrus a spot in his nasty rag when she turns 18. It’s pretty nasty when an 80 year old guy can’t wait for a 15 year old to turn 18 just to see her naked.
What a rotten world this is.
It’s called ’sagging’ (in this area) – and I had to throw out my oldest son’s boxers because he was wanting to do this (out of my sight of course). Now he’s not willing to do this only being able to wear the old ‘tightie whities’
If you think it looks funny with boxers…
I am not a big Hannah Montana fan and try and discourage my girls from looking up to any celebrity but I looked at the Macy’s Hannah Montana clothes and don’t really think that some of these pieces are that bad. The dresses are a good length and so are the shorts. There are no mid-riff showing or low cut shirts. Maybe the clothes are a bit bright and glittery and have too many sequins on some but kids like brightly colored clothes. I wouldn’t have a problem with my kids wearing some of this stuff – besides the fact I don’t like buying her clothes or merchandise because I don’t like knowing that I am helping to make her parents and herself ridiculously rich.
I have to admit, my kids love Hanny Montany. I love her too. When something is said about the celebrities they like, we talk about it. My oldest knows that was wrong. I try and make sure we talk about it first before the hounds of kids at school put other thoughts in her head. As for her Macy’s line of clothing, the only piece I found offensive was the studded cuffed shorts. They are to short.
What’s worse is the “Christian” image that Beyonce tries to cover herself with. Christian? Pssh. She’s a shame to all those who claim to have something in common with Christ.
#159 said:
There you go again about food and medicine! Well, we also have global warming and polar bear problems to contend with today, so why do you keep jacking this thread about food and medicine?
Let’s keep priorities straight:
1. Pedophilia chic
2. Islamic misogyny
3. Global warming and polar bears
4. Food and medicine
5. The Little Rascals
And I didn’t much appreciate your comment regarding Alfalfa’s girlfriend.
It’s quite sad really. Pimping and sexualizing young children will start them down the road to confusion and low self esteem. I remember seeing the movie Bugsy Malone when I was a kid, and it totally, completely creeped me out. Society has to start doing a better job of looking after our children. It starts with making sure things are proper and regulated with our own kids at home. Then don’t be afraid to tell others about how they are handling their own children. I had a conversation with an old friend about his 6 and 10 yr old sons playing the new Grand Theft Auto IV game. Completely inappropriate.
This thread bums me out.
BrianNY writes,
Leaving aside the mistaken inferences already addressed here, this particular girl looks confused or bugged. Who cares the color of their skin; can everyone agree that children should not be hoochied up and exploited for a profit under any circumstances??
Gotta tell ya….some of the “What’s the big deal?” comments here are very disturbing.
‘zactly, mistressjustice , thank you.
BrianNY thinks the the little asian girl is dressed as a cheap whore? in pants, sweater, and hat? geez..take it easy pilgrim!
Beyonce’s latest single:
There is…
A House…
In New York City…
They Caaaaaall the Daaaaay-Re-On!
And it’s beeeeeen the ruuuuin
Of many-a small girl…
I know…
For I…
Was one.
I just think it’s sad that so many want kids to be sexualized,sultry and adult like when they are literal babes.I don’t see how anyone can not see what is so so wrong with the way these little girls are sexed up and the little Asian girl to me looks almost gang banger like.The heels are too much. they should be wearing mary janes and capris or other appropriate clothing and being little girls.They actually look like mini Bratz dolls.
Oh yeah: the clothes are ugly besides.