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1. #321074
   On May 14th, 2008 at 10:55 am, undrseige247 said:

   Oh man. lgm will have a panic attack.

2. #321077
   On May 14th, 2008 at 10:56 am, orlandocajun said:

   I read that there is a new bill in Congress that will override any and all state/local legislation that deals with illegal aliens. Apparently, the bill has a few good measures in it, but it shuts down any and all local enforcement. They’re trying to slip another amnesty bill under the radar.

   Michelle, please keep your eye on this one.

3. #321082
   On May 14th, 2008 at 10:58 am, taylork said:

   Now this just needs to be done on the border states, and for that matter everywhere else in all colleges and places of employment.

4. #321083
   On May 14th, 2008 at 10:59 am, abstractmind said:

   On May 14th, 2008 at 10:55 am, undrseige247 said:
   Oh man. lgm will have a panic attack.

   less students to indoctrinate, lol

   All poking fun at lgm aside…

   It’s good to see the LAW being upheld. Finally.

   Score 1 for the good guys.

   Demagnetize things and they’ll all go home.

5. #321090
   On May 14th, 2008 at 11:05 am, alaskangrizzly said:

   Maricopa County (the one with the Phoenix metroplex in it) passed Prop 300 last year passing into law:

   Proposition 300, passed by Arizona voters in November 2006, stipulates that college students who are not legal United States citizens or are without lawful immigration status must pay out-of-state tuition, and that persons who are not United States citizens and who are without lawful immigration status are not eligible for financial assistance using state money. The law requires that those who are not citizens or legal residents pay out-of-state tuition

   Good to see other states following suit.

6. #321091
   On May 14th, 2008 at 11:05 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

   Glad to hear it. I can use some good news every now and again. Go NC!

7. #321092
   On May 14th, 2008 at 11:07 am, ThackerAgency said:

   you know, the crazy thing about this is that they said on the news that ‘There are already 150 illegal aliens signed up for this semester that will be grandfathered in to the program’.

   It seems to me that if they KNOW that they are illegal, they should be DEPORTED! Am I missing something here? It’s too bad that these people aren’t American citizens who smoke pot. . . they wouldn’t be given anything but an early grave.

8. #321097
   On May 14th, 2008 at 11:11 am, Concerned Citizen said:

   It really is going to have to be solved at the state and local level. The problem is when someone higher up the food chain disagrees with the policy.

   Neutering Sheriff Joe

9. #321102
   On May 14th, 2008 at 11:13 am, hunter said:

   Good for NC. Here in my state not only can illegals go to college, they are allowed to pay IN state tuition.

10. #321103
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:13 am, abstractmind said:

    CC,
    I emailed that to michelle a bit ago…here’s hoping it shows up here. people need to know he’s being screwed too…one piece of good news, one piece of bad

11. #321111
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:20 am, LOBOMAN said:

    Yes, One step at a time….County by County, State by State!
    How long will it take for the “representatives” of the citizens of this country to grow some gonads and do what the citizens want? It won’t happen in the next administration (no matter who gets elected).

12. #321112
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:20 am, Little Ma said:

    A bit of good news for a change! I had to pinch myself, but yep, I’m awake.

    cajun, do you know the number of that bill? I’d like to check the details before I email my Congressional Reps. about it.

13. #321113
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:20 am, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    It is my opinion that beneath the radar of the MSM there is a quiet revolution taking place.

    The people who make this country work, just like these folks in NC are fed up.

    This is great because it shows where the real power is in this country. Of course there will be push back from the left, when is there not, but that push back is becoming less and less effective every day.

    While the MSM will not admit it yet, we are winning, and for those touchstone issues yet to be fought, we will win the day on those as well.

    Never give up, never surrender, loss on a single issue is not what defines us as conservatives.

    Our parents and grandparents lived through the Great Depression and never gave up. Who are we to even imagine packing it in, simply because a few liberals were louder than us today.

    Go North Corolina….

14. #321114
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:20 am, maine yankee said:

    Get out.

    let me repeat that;

    GET OUT !!!!

15. #321116
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:21 am, smellycat41 said:

    We are either going to be a nation ruled by LAWS or we can have anarchy. Open borders people want anarchy!!!

16. #321126
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:32 am, WarTip said:

    On May 14th, 2008 at 10:56 am, orlandocajun said:

    I read that there is a new bill in Congress that will override any and all state/local legislation that deals with illegal aliens. Apparently, the bill has a few good measures in it, but it shuts down any and all local enforcement. They’re trying to slip another amnesty bill under the radar.

    If found to be true (Which I do not doubt)

    Which is exactly why our Founding Fathers explicitly limited the powers of the federal government and I can never forgive Abraham Lincoln or praise him as a hero for centralizing that federal power and usurping legal and sole power from we the people and the states … IMHO it was not in order to preserve the Union but to create a new federal nation as opposed to the Independent but United States we were started as originally.

17. #321127
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:34 am, pecze said:

    Our democratic governor, Mike Easly, issued a contradictory statement. I’m glad the college system is listening to the AG.

    The funny thing is that ICE issued a statement saying it wasn’t against any federal law for the colleges to admit illegals. They said that it’s not the job of the schools to determine citizenship.

    Well, if DHS and ICE did their jobs…

18. #321129
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:35 am, abstractmind said:

    Oh…i wanted to be fair about something as well.

    N.C. Attorney General Roy Cooper is a long time Democrat, also a longtime friend of phil valentine.

    its nice to see that not all democrats are pro-illegal. Thought you guys could rejoice that we’ve got at least one on our side

19. #321130
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:35 am, hawkeye54 said:

    I read that there is a new bill in Congress that will override any and all state/local legislation that deals with illegal aliens.

    Again, if this is the case, it is the federal government overstepping its constitutional boundry.

    Since the feds refuse to effectively deal with illegal immigration by fully enforcing current laws, who else but the states and local governments to deal with the illegal invasion.

    It seems to me that if they KNOW that they are illegal, they should be DEPORTED! Am I missing something here?

    Yes, the feds lack the will to do their jobs, intimidated by the usual suspects, LaRaza, ACLU, Demoncratic Party, RINOs, and all other abbetors of the illegals.

    Its due time to reign in their influence with our polictians and government institutions.

    Too bad we have the three stooges running for the presidency who evidently see, hear and speak no evil of the ILLEGAL immigration problem.

    Is there no viable policital party that values US CITIZENS’ interests and rights since the Republican part has evidently going belly up?

20. #321133
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:38 am, Wade said:

    Wonder how Chris Matthews leg trill reacted to this news?

21. #321135
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am, libocrat said:

    Liberals believe laws are for suckers and lawyers are for them.

22. #321139
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am, John Ansell said:

    I’m surprised they pass to get into college.

23. #321140
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:45 am, katieanne said:

    This is exactly how the immigration issue will be solved…one state at a time. Our impotent Federal government doesn’t have the guts or integrity to protect US citizens and our borders.

24. #321144
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:50 am, rogerbacon said:

    Wow, this is …. (Check’s dictionary since it’s been so long since the word was used) … progress!

25. #321147
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:53 am, tre said:

    Just doing the jobs that the federal government won’t do.

26. #321148
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:53 am, nbarry said:

    In other good news, Suffolk County, New York (eastern Long Island) passed a law requiring its licensed contractors to verify that their employees are legally able to work.

27. #321149
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:54 am, orlandocajun said:

    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:20 am, Little
    

    Ma said:
    A bit of good news for a change! I had to pinch myself, but yep, I’m awake.

    cajun, do you know the number of that bill? I’d like to check the details before I email my Congressional Reps. about it.

    Little Ma, I read about the bill at Human Events. The number is HR5515.

28. #321150
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:54 am, spo-con said:

    What ! They are obviously more puppets of the Bush regime ! Carl Rove is behind this……..somehow! /sarc. Good for S.C. Don’t ever be afraid to stand up for whats right. The financial burden on the school to provide Spanish speaking teachers has to be enormous.

29. #321151
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:54 am, love2rumba said:

    The primary reason this illegal alien thing got as big as it has been the unwillingness of the news media to even cover it over the years.

    The best thing that could have ever happened to our cause was when these America-users came out demanding we legalize their illegal behavior while waving Mexican flags-not US which has indicated their true allegiance to Mexico in these oversize protest marches.

    If this had been reversed, i can guarantee you that every last Anglo would have been run out of Mexico by now.

30. #321154
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:58 am, TMoney said:

    Geraldo would be spinning and spitting in his grave at this decision, if he wasn’t still with us.

31. #321159
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, RaisedRight said:

    I know I’m a bit late and some other people have already touched on this, but… Can someone please explain to me how there are people identified as illegal who are not turned over to ICE and deported? I honestly used to think the problem was with people who used fake ID and were not known for certain to be illegal. But time and time again stories emerge of illegal aliens who are identified as illegal and yet still allowed to go about their merry way. Why?

    (I’m still pretty young, you’ll have to forgive my ignorance. )

32. #321171
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Barry F. said:

    From sanctuary nation to sovereign nation. One step at a time.

    Woo hoo! :-0

    On May 14th, 2008 at 10:55 am, undrseige247 said:

    Oh man. lgm will have a panic attack.

    Perhaps it will drive him right on over the edge.

    Other good news on the illegal immigration front with the single largest site-raid in U.S. history by ICE in Iowa…

    Federal officials said Tuesday that they had detained 390 illegal immigrants after a raid on a meatpacking plant in Postville, Iowa, in what they described as the largest single-site raid of its kind nationwide.

    The detainees include 314 men and 76 women, according to figures released Tuesday by federal authorities. Fifty-six detainees – mostly women with young children – have been released under the supervision of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    A similar factory raid in New Bedford, Mass., last year netted 361 arrests, most of whom faced deportation and were separated from their families.

    “We’re here to discuss not only the largest operation of its kind ever in Iowa, but in fact the largest single-site enforcement operation of its kind in the country,” U.S. Attorney Matt M. Dummermuth said.

    The detainees included 290 who claimed to be Guatemalans, 93 Mexicans, three Israelis and four Ukrainians. Among the detained were 12 juveniles, six of whom have been released…

    Here is one of my favorite quotes to drive home the revolving door issue in illegal immigration…

    She was instructed to fill out paperwork that detailed her date of birth and country of origin. She is from Guatemala but said she told investigators that she was from Mexico.

    When she’s deported, she said she would rather be taken to Mexico, where it will be easier to reenter America.

33. #321175
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, letget said:

    # 31 That is the question millions of American’s have been asking and not getting answers. Great news from NC. Now lets do it in all the other ‘56′ states.
    L

34. #321178
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, av8tr said:

    RaisedRight,

    That’s OK. Many of us here are old, and it doesn’t make sense to us, either. Other than the part about the government doing anything right. We understand that.

35. #321180
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, abstractmind said:

    Raised,

    you come across as intelligent. your age, in this case, doesnt matter

    There are those of us who DO, in fact, report these people to the authorities. We had a house with 15 people in it down the street from us before we moved into our new home recently. I didn’t call the authorities on them because they were hispanic. I did so because they were packing a ton of people in a 1 bedroom house, there were all kinds of shady characters there at all times of the day and night, all of the vehicles that were there that belonged to the people living there were all over 6 months out of date, and their children were running in the street unattended and almost got struck while out playing.

    The police were going to charge them, according to their neighbor/translator whom i know, NOT with being here illegally (and they were shown to be as such, which was told to me by said person), but because they were violating a city code having too many people habitating in a house of that size. They were cited for the license plates as well, but nothing more.

    Less than a week later, they all packed up their things and left, for who knows where. Once the police were involved, they got scared, and left.

    Its when people turn a blind eye to this, and let these people run wild and are not REported and then DEported, that it becomes a problem.

    If its an issue where you live, have ICE on speed dial.

36. #321185
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    When she’s deported, she said she would rather be taken to MexicoSan Francisco, where it will be easier to reenter America.

    There, fixed it for you. Mayor Newsome will be expecting for her.

37. #321190
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, Russ N said:

    I can hear ACLU and La Raza/The Race lawyers stampeding to file their lawsuits now

    It’s becoming more and more clear each day that anything these groups are against is something normal, every-day people are for.

38. #321194
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am, John Ansell said:
    I’m surprised they pass to get into college.

    From what I understand, some community college have lowered the academic bar so low, you can step over it without much trouble. : )

39. #321196
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, terristeelmagnolia said:

    CUT OFF THE MAGNET!

40. #321199
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, RaisedRight said:

    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Barry F. said:
    Other good news on the illegal immigration front with the single largest site-raid in U.S. history by ICE in Iowa…

    Yep. I saw this one the local news the other night here in Iowa City. No suprise, their promo said something very similar to (if not exactly), “The largest raid in Iowa history took place today. Find out what will happen to the kids whose parents were not there to pick them up from school.”
    *tear* What an original angle for the media to take!
    Grr.

41. #321201
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, DesertLover said:

    A good step indeed … now … how about we send the following letter to every critter in Congress …

    Dear _______ (fill in appropriate name),

    This letter is in regard to any and all current or future legislation attempting to provide illegal aliens with any level of amnesty, access to any public benefits or preferential treatment of any type, regardless of the manner in which it is provided.

    Should any such item be put forth for consideration you are expected by the law abiding American citizens who elected you to vote against such legislation.

    Please consider this letter to be official notification that your failure to vote against such legislation will lead me and others to pursue every means possible to ensure you are not re-elected.

    Sincerely,

    ________ (Your name)

    A Law-Abiding American Constituent

    Enough of these might at the least get some DC types attention.

42. #321202
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, abstractmind said:

    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, RaisedRight said:

    Yep. I saw this one the local news the other night here in Iowa City. No suprise, their promo said something very similar to (if not exactly), “The largest raid in Iowa history took place today. Find out what will happen to the kids whose parents were not there to pick them up from school.”
    *tear* What an original angle for the media to take!
    Grr.

    question…if they are here illegally, how did they get a drivers license to go get their kids from school in the first place???

    I know the answer..but i think that needs to be addressed as well.

43. #321203
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, JohnnyNJ said:

    …Question:

    Why should it be legal for any college or university to admit illegal aliens but illegal for an employer to hire illegal aliens?

    Change #9 for “Change You Deserve” thread…..presidential executive order outlawing admission of illegals to our colleges and universities. Stiff fine AND jail terms for offending college administrators. Change!

44. #321207
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, RaisedRight said:

    It’s good to know that I’m not alone in my utter confusion. What really confuses me is the legal aspect of this. What laws are there that say illegal aliens can’t stay here? Conversely, what laws are there that protect illegals from being asked their status and from being deported?

45. #321209
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, Barry F. said:

    I also saw where the Arizona governor is taking a $1,600,000 contract the state had for anti-illegal immigration enforcement from Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, AZ…

    Gov. Janet Napolitano ordered the state to end an anti-illegal immigration contract with a high-profile sheriff Tuesday so she can pay for a larger effort to track down thousands of felons around Arizona.

    Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio on Tuesday criticized the governor’s decision as a maneuver to thwart his efforts against illegal immigrants.

    “Dirty politics are at work right now,” Arpaio said at a news conference.

    Arpaio, who describes himself as “America’s Toughest Sheriff” and is best known for feeding jail inmates green bologna sandwiches, clothing them in pink underwear, and making them work on chain gangs, received praise for his anti-immigration efforts from many who believe the federal government isn’t doing enough to remove people in the U.S. illegally.

    But his raids and sweeps of illegal immigrants in Phoenix and nearby Guadalupe have drawn protests from community leaders and civil liberties advocates. Arpaio, a Republican, has also been criticized for letting thousands of felony warrants go unserved while he chased illegal immigrants……

46. #321211
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, Silkyinfamous said:

    Good Stuff.
    Lets take the money it would cost us to pay for their schooling, and build some roads, bridges, and what the hay, lets build that wall.

47. #321213
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Could N.C. send some of that strength to CA. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!

    We’re taxed to death because of:
    free med
    free ed
    free…………….

48. #321228
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, gayle said:

    Easley, governor- soon to be gone, wanted illegals to be able to enroll.

    Roy Cooper set his butt straight!

    The flack online received from viewers on Easley’s “plan”, backfired.

    We will SOON have a Republican governor…..and I cannot wait!

49. #321232
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, DesertLover said:

    Barry F.

    And Sheriff Joe says he will continue to enforce the law …

    Joe’s Response

    The whole thing is a political play by “J-NO” (J.D. Hayworth’s name for our worthless Dem governor) because she is hoping for a spot in Obama’s administration …

    She will not stop Joe … you can count on that …

50. #321237
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, cicerokid said:

    Liberal democrats will do anything to see there’s amnesty…probably 20-30 million illegals here now. In 4 years…40-50 million and in 8 years you can bet there will be close to 100 million illegal (they will be legal by that time)or the progeny of those illegals that have since entered. These people will be registered voters. If some action is not taken NOW, it will be too late in 8 years.

51. #321238
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, DesertLover said:

    Barry F.

    Also, to clarify a misrepresentation in that AP article … the raids were not immigrant raids …

    The raids were concentrated in areas of high crime … they arrested almost 600 people they were looking for on outstanding warrants and as part of ongoing investigations … 390 of those people turned out to be illegals and were held for ICE proceedings … so the AP statement these were “immigrant” raids is totally bogus …

52. #321248
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, erikwhittington said:

    lets move to NC!

53. #321249
    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    If some action is not taken NOW, it will be too late in 8 years.

    Considering the thrashing the congressional Republicans (no longer just the Stupid Party but now the Brain-dead party) look like they will be getting in November, coupled with any of the presidential contenders in the White House, it’ll probably be too late within the next 4 years

54. #321252
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, JDinTX said:

    Thank goodness for N.C. Only wish Texas would do the same, but our leaders encourage the illegals to go to college keeping out good legal students. I agree with #41 that we all need to contact our senators and congressmen that we are all tired of this and will vote them out for their continued pandering to illegals.

55. #321253
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, vitoon said:

    Finally, someone making sense! I was a foreign student for a long time before getting my working visa, green card, and finally citizenship. What’s to stop all those foreign students from becoming illegal in order to get in-state tuition rates? Duh. All they’d have to do is drop for a year and do oddjobs. Then re-apply using this stupid policy. I am glad someone wised up.

56. #321257
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    1 state down, 56 more to go…

57. #321258
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, abstractmind said:

    Raised,

    just as a reference, you can go to this website. This article outlines what we’re talking about, as well as shows laws involved. at the bottom, where he states his sources, are the links for where the laws are on the books.

    also, for one specific law, try this:
    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=8&sec=1325

    Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, “Improper Entry by Alien,” is the law in question. There are tons, but this is the base for them all, i believe.

    hope that helps

58. #321259
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, Jaded said:

    “From sanctuary nation to sovereign nation. One step at a time.”

    Amen to that sister!!!!!

59. #321266
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, abstractmind said:

    ARGH.
    sorry, the first link didnt get in…sorry!

    http://www.immigration-usa.com/george_weissinger.html

60. #321275
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, RaisedRight said:

    abstractmind – Thanks. I will have to look that info over when I’m not technically supposed to be working.

61. #321280
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, Barry F. said:

    On May 14th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, DesertLover said:

    Barry F.

    Also, to clarify a misrepresentation in that AP article … the raids were not immigrant raids …

    The raids were concentrated in areas of high crime … they arrested almost 600 people they were looking for on outstanding warrants and as part of ongoing investigations … 390 of those people turned out to be illegals and were held for ICE proceedings … so the AP statement these were “immigrant” raids is totally bogus …

    Thanks, DL.

62. #321281
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, abstractmind said:

    sure thing. anything i can do to help

63. #321284
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, ajmontana said:

    lol, aloha guy…. 56 to go. ha!

64. #321298
    On May 14th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    lol, aloha guy…. 56 to go. ha!

    Not counting Alaska and Hawaii..

    Michelle O: “I just know how special he is.”

65. #321358
    On May 14th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, nyc123me said:

    Wow! An Attorney General and a state eduction system that actually respects Federal Law, and both in the same state! Amazing.

66. #321521
    On May 14th, 2008 at 5:01 pm, bayou22 said:

    I’m not sure if it’s been posted, but knowing what I know about NC and the idiocy of their government otherwise, it won’t be long before they pass said required law and all this will be for naught.

67. #321584
    On May 14th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, shooter said:

    Michelle O: “I just know how special he is.”

    Yeah, like the “special olympics for thinking” special.

68. #321609
    On May 14th, 2008 at 6:24 pm, Crazy Horse said:

    gayle,

    I hate to say that NC will not have a Rebublican Govenor. Bev will win. However if Fred Smith had won the primary we would.

    I’m just happy that Scott Rawls did this at the direction of the AG. Scott’s got the balls to do it and I appluad him. What a great choice for the President of the NC Community College system.

    So in recap…………NC

    Closes loophole for illegal drivers license…..check

    NC closes loophole for illegal Community College enrollment in degree programs……..check

    Walter B. Jones Jr, still a troop hating, pro impeachment, tax raising RINO………..check

69. #321798
    On May 14th, 2008 at 10:15 pm, Bruce said:

    All the freaking Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, El Salvadoridians, Columbians, Bolivians, etc. that are being displaced by Georgia and North Carolina are ALL coming HERE to South Carolina where our Good Ol’ Boy gutless weenie politicians won’t do ANYTHING about the problem… HELP!!

70. #321803
    On May 14th, 2008 at 10:19 pm, Dimsdale said:

    68 posts and lgm hasn’t swooped in to defecate all over the thread?

    I guess he must be apoplectic with this revelation!

71. #321839
    On May 14th, 2008 at 11:26 pm, Anthony Scott said:

    I told many friends here who are illegal that they should go ahead and go to school before somebody like me votes to close the loop hole. Sure enough, people like me have spoken!