Obama, sweetie, calm down
Methinks Obama doth protest too much.
President Bush speaks in Israel about the folly of appeasement. He doesn’t name any names. He could be talking about Jimmy Carter, Cindy Sheehan, the White Flag Democrat leaders in the House and Senate, or hell, his own State Department:
“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” Bush said at Israel’s 60th anniversary celebration in Jerusalem.
“We have heard this foolish delusion before,” Bush said in remarks to Israel’s parliament, the Knesset. “As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”
So, who’s first out of the gate to whine about what they see as a “false political attack?”
Obama, sweetie, if the shoe fits…
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Bob Owens (heh, right back at ya!): “Perhaps we’d all find Barack’s stance against meeting with terrorists a lot more sincere if he wasn’t friends with several, kicking off his political career at their house.”
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“False political attack” . . . my backside. This is obviously a case of “if the shoe fits” and Obama recognized that it was exactly his size. If he doesn’t want to constantly dine on his words then he needs to engage his brain before he puts his mouth in gear.
Didn’t we just negotitate with North Korea and didn’t we negotiate with Libya? Didn’t we negotiate with the IRA? Iran/Contra? Taliban?
Negotiating and given up Czechoslovakia are two different thing. Talking with people is not necessarily pulling a Chamberlain.
I don’t see anything “false” in that!
Barry, try replacing “false” with “racist” next time… You might at least get brownie points from Al, and Jeremiah. All the indoctrinated high school and college kids will love it, too.
I think I want to change my name to ’sweetie’. I would like being called sweetie.
Maybe my rap name could be ‘Sweet T’ as homage to the South. The only problem is it makes me sound gay.
You’re so vain…..You probably think that speech was about you…. I always hated that song, and now it’s stuck in my head. DAMN YOU, B.Hussein OBAMA !
Name that party!
Oops, I forgot. (Old habits are hard to break when you were a Democrat for 30 years…)
Europe negotiated us right into WW2.
But, more importantly…Obama’s position is one of arrogance. He truly believes we can solve problems with people who openly pine for our death by talking with them when they want war…because his argument will be persuasive.
The man’s delusional.
What a prissy little whiner Obama is. Do we really want this thin-skinned wonder to be our Commander-in-Chief?
Sounds like someone is trying too hard to be the victim.
Sorry but, that is rich!
That headline is just too rich!
Thanks for the LOL!
Waaaaaaaah!
What is really disgusting is that someone would view truth and fact as a personal attack. It speaks volumes about their “character” however. Eh B. Hussein Obama? What was that? Epiphanies you say?
Hey, Barack HUSSEIN Obama, listen up.
You can NOT reason with unreasonable people!
Obama:
“Is this camera on, Cause I’m a victim, George bush said something, so it must have been about me!”
“See”
Well just because they are willing to strap a bomb on and blow themselves to bits doesn’t mean thay can’t be reasonable does it?
Once the soul fixer tells them how much we care and how much we just want to get along it will be all right.
Don’t you feel better already?
Bush is right and the shoe fits Obama exceptionally well. Yet another lame Chamberlain.
Hey Tre, take your own advise. Look who your talking too.
George Bush speaking about appeasement and talking to terrorists at the Knesset is pretty funny. Was he scolding the Israelis in their own house for negotiating with Hamas with the mediation of Egypt? When Bush speaks of appeasement, is he speaking about acquiescing to Osama Bin Laden’s number one demand, which was to withdraw American troops from Saudi Arabia? When Bush speaks of appeasement, is he speaking of his Uncle, Prescott Bush who was convicted under the “Trading with the Enemy Act” in 1942 for trading with Nazi Germany? When Bush speaks of appeasement, is he refering to not bringing the biggest mass murderer in American history to justice?
PS - Winston Churchill, while talking about negotiating with Hitler said, “Jaw, jaw, jaw is better than war, war, war.”
PPS - Yitzhak Rabin: “Of course Im going to talk to my enemies. Who else am I going to talk to?”
PPS - All the appeasers in the American government in the 30s were Republicans, including the senator who lamented, “If only I could have spoken with Hitler…”
Also, for all the bs about Obama calling a reporter “sweetie”, I don’t see much about McCain calling his wife a “trollop” and a “c-word”. In public. In front of reporters.
Also, for all the bs about Obama calling a reporter “sweetie”, I don’t see much about McCain calling his wife a “trollop” and a “c-word”. In public. In front of reporters.
This is Senator Obama inserting himself into a story that he knows has nothing to do with him but that will be widely reported.
Free pub for the Obamessiah!
Bush calls it like it is and I am glad he said that! BO needs to grow up!
Bush wasn’t talking about Obama. Because Obama doesn’t want to appease terrorist, he wants to surrender to terrorists.
well if you think Churhill quotes will back B Ho’s stategy over Bush’s…I’m game!
Samething here. There are many ways to ’say’ things.
I live in 2008 so I’m more interested in who’s saying it now.
where the heck is MistressJustice? In court probably defending some downtrodden victim I suppose..she’d better hurry, she’ll miss her que.
hanging out with John Edwards maybe…
Re Obama’s reaction: The truth hurts.
obama is sooooo all about himself! I wish Michelle would take that picture of him down..you know the one…to the right…with his leg on that chair…
If it walks, looks and quacks like a duck…
One of the follies of the left is that issue of ‘relativism’. If the duck has been living with terrorists, then maybe he should not be faulted for thinking he is not a duck.
Mr Odrama please get some sleep you are WAY too cranky or maybe Michelle “My Belle” Odrama isn’t givin up the booty right now cause she mad? OH thats right she is ALWAYS mad and angry, but mostly at whitey!
Terrorists want you as POTUS Mr Odrama because they will chew you up and spit you out like the incompetent raw rookie you are. Of course they will do it with a smile and a wink.
calipygian:
Ask yourself a very simple question…Who would the terrorists and rogue nations like Iran prefer in the White House, President Bush or Barack “I’ll talk to you with preconditions” Obama? Who did Hamas endorse, after all?
We know they’d rather have a Democrat in the White House, becuase they see weakness. That’s the bottom line…
The headline alone was snortful!
The Obama camp must not like things that come a bit too close to home.
From an article in Front Page that fits.
tre,
sambo got you bro! LOL
Obama’s eagerness to prattle with tyrants and dictators who would gladly see our civilization destroyed wouldn’t be so unsettling, if I could only believe that he wouldn’t be doing it as an open display of weakness.
The Kim Jong Ils, Assads, alphabet-soup named Iranian mullahs and Hugo Chavez’s of the world respect strength and despise weakness. Obama’s coming to them “without precondition” — to talk about what, exactly? — they will only, can only, perceive as weakness.
What have any of these characters done to make it worthwhile to have a discussion? How have they changed their ways, or even offered to do so? They haven’t. So when Obama comes to them offering to talk, it’s only America that will be offering to be or do something different. We will be asking them for terms.
That’s not called “disucssion” or “negotiation.” The proper term is, “capitulation.” And let there be no doubt that those around the world who wish us ill won’t miss the message it sends.
“I was far too trusting of Mr. Brezhnev.”
- James Earl Carter
Has anyone noticed that all the revolutionaries are communists and Democrats can’t wait for them to succeed so they can talk? Weird.
more…
except for McCain…
As my father has said many times;
“When you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one you hit, yelps”.
I’d say that Bush threw a rock, and hit Obama square between the eyes.
Pulled from the link given on the story.
I agree we should sit down with our friends, and our foes. Keeping friends close, enemies closer…always a good strategy. Sometimes, you can discuss things with an adversary. Often times, both sides see themselves as right, and the other as wrong. Compromise shouldnt be off the table, with rational, levelheaded opponents. Those, however, are in short supply.
But Obama isn’t someone I would want to have at the bargaining table, for sure.
tre and sambo are correct…you cant deal with unreasonable people (well, sometimes…but they often only respond to force, unfortunately) and that there are many ways to say things.
I’m just wondering how many ways Obama can say “capitulate”.
I know how I would say it.
Lan Astaslem.
Hey, Barack, sweetie, just simmer down now!
Explain to me how you can negotiate with someone who sees it as his destiny to bring about a holocaust in the middle east which will cause the 12th Imam to come out from his well?
President Tom wants a holocaust and negotiating with him isn’t going to stop that. This is the same reason why massive retaliation won’t work.
There should be an “Obama Whine Watch”. Have you ever seen anyone complain as much about being attacked as the Obamessiah? (PBUH). Think of when Wright finally “changed” his relationship with Obama. Not from 20 years of hate speech. No. It was from disrespecting Obama as a person! That was beyond the pale! Whatever you say about GW Bush, he’s not a whiner. I don’t know when he’s gotten all sad and hurt at his detractors, even when warranted. Obamessiah (PBUH), he’s like an open wound. Very tender feelings.
The Little “O’s” battle cry!Waaaah! Waaah! Waaaaaaah! Somebody said something mean about me. That remark is racist. Anyone that knows me knows I am not like that. I will talk with Iran leader without any pre-conditions. Bush is bad. Waaaaaah!
I commented in a post several months ago how over time the positions of the Republicans and Democrats have flip-flopped. If you go back further in time to the War Between the States you will find that the Republicans were the war-mongers and the Democrats were the ones wanting to make peace with the Confederate States of America. Times change and so do the parties.
I agree with sambo in #23:
And with mchristian in #20:
President Bush SCORES!
San Fran Nan, Biden and Rahm Emanuel are all having a cow over this. I say, if the shoe fits, wear it.
I guess the President is calling his own SecDef a Nazi appeaser:
Man, that bus is BUSY!
It’s a little ironic that the same right-wing punditry that slammed the Dixie Chick for slamming Bush while on foreign soil are not applauding Bush for slamming Obama while on foreign soil.
Bush was clearly referring to the hair-brained antics of disgraced former President Jimmy Carter. The reason Obama and Pelosi overreacted is because the obviously correct position of President Bush is counter to the true positions of Dems (which they won’t share with the Public because they’d be outted as cowards).
Obama’s foreign policy advisors are all advocates of appeasement. Rob Malley actually believes that Hamas is a good natured collection of slightly rumpled professors. Malley was in the Clinton administration in a relatively low capacity but Obama might elevate him. Malley was the main source of the NY Times hit piece on Ehud Barak after Clinton’s disastrous attempt to force Israel to accept an Arafatian state. Malley fed Sontag her lines of argument about how Barak had been too forceful with Arafat and if only Barak had been more respectful to Arafat and made more concessions, peace would be at hand . Malley and Sontag felt that Arafat was being generous when Arafat said that if Israel gave him all of the West Bank and Gaza plus Jerusalem, that would be his “last territorial demand”. And neither Malley nor Sontag saw the irony of parroting Neville Chamberlain.
So now your not aloud to criticize a lousy tactic just because thats the one Obama supports??
I love how all the critcisms about Bush’s comment are not about its content; rather,they’re about where he said it and how consistent it is with things republicans said 70 years ago.
It’s as if The OtherSide and Calipygian have accepted the premise of the statement and can only divert attention to it by bringing up irrelevant points.
meant allowed. Chard402003 said it much better. Obama X campain rule 723 for republicans: Thou shout not condemn any person or tactic (ect) that shall pertain to me
Careful GWB, you don’t want to make Barack Obama angry, you wouldn’t like him when he’s angry.
He never mentioned Obama or any other Democrat by name, did he? But, isn’t it funny that everyone knows who he was talking about! Guilty consciences, or what? The Left’s reaction just tells you he was speaking the truth… they just don’t like it.
The next thing you know, BHO will be complaining about the “extraordinary economization of the federal budget” or the “extraordinary militarization of the Penatgon”.
It seems to me that Obama is an offendee looking for an offender.
oops, Pentagon.
Gosh, there sure are a lot of nerves sbeing hit with this one. Hehe.
The commenter at 1250p at the Politico story about Pelosi in a tiff at Bush’s speech in Israel (see Drudge) is openly calling for the assassination of President Bush!
Yes because it is irrelevant that Israel is in direct talks with Hamas and that the SecDef has also called for talks with Iran.
Sheesh.
That is down right insane and sick! I hope Secret Service is watching that message board!
The history since WWII is much better. We negotiated with the Soviet Union and communist China and North Korea. Reagan negotiated with Iran secretly while saying in public that the never would.
And speaking of Germany, the Nazis would not have risen to power if the French and English had been willing to renegotiate the Versailles treaty that ruined the German economy during the Weimar years. Creating failed states (like Iraq) is not the way to create thriving Democracies.
Sambo, just now getting around to checking this thread again.
Yep, ya got me, pardner
Ya think?
Jihadis are a lot like Nazis, you can lull them with poetry but then they go back to killing people.
New AF group, call it, Daisy Cutters R US, less fuss no muss, just dust.
Clinton negotiated with the North Koreans in the 90’s, sending Madeleine Half-Bright over there to toast the despot. What did that achieve? Just that they now have nukes, that’s all. Thank you for reminding everyone of that.
The Nazi apologist argument. Nice…
He didn’t say elitest appeasers. What’s up?
Me thinks someones skin is a bit too thin………
Yikes, once he starts wagging his finger, it will be just like having Bill Clinton all over again.
Man,… if he is this agitated after a so called verbal attack, wonder what he would do as president if someone said something unfavorable about him. Are gulags, concentrations camps and gestapo tactics in our future. Just shut the hell up and keep working to pay your inflated taxes….
I cannot vouch for North Korea or China, but the Soviet Union realized the stupidity of nuclear confrontation and all out war. Considering both the United States and Soviet Union had enough weapons to obliterate the world many times over, the SALT talks weren’t such a bad idea. Add to the fact that the Soviet Union was officially an aethiest state and maybe they realized that if a nuclear war occured and they were all killed that they had no heaven to go to. Seems they might not have been in in too much of a hurry to leave this world.
On the other hand, there is a vast population that cannot wait to claim their 72 virgins. They cannot be reasoned with.
White House spokesperson Dana Perino was asked if Bush’s line was a slam against Obama and she insisted,
Obamessiah (PBUH) narcissism alert! Nice shot, Dana.
Obama you have never been in the position to negotiate with our enemies. You have always been a nobody and you will always be a nobody. Bush was talking about the important fools.
#61 lgm said:
I believe they broke almost every treaty and negotiation that they signed? What’s so good about that?
Actually, the Reagan Administration was trying to sell arms to Iran for the Iran/Iraq War in turn for the release of American hostages held in Lebanon, and in turn, use the money to fund freedom fighters in Nicaragua who were opposed to creeping Soviet influence in their homeland, the lack of a vote, and the confiscation of their homes and land by the marxist Ortega regime (all because Congressional democrats passed an unconstitutional “Boland Amendment,” denying the Executive Branch its right to conduct legitimate foreign policy.)
As stated in an earlier post, conservatives are sometimes forced by petulant libs to create inventive ways to protect our Nation’s interests.
But the Versailles treaty was a failed negotiation to begin with, so how can you say that a hypothetical renegotiation of an already failed negotiation would have curtailed the rise of the Nazi Party?
The same thing was said by the NY Times just five years into the reconstruction of Germany and Japan after WW II.
Incidentally, if you consider Iraq’s recent five year birthday to be a “failure,” how do you classify Castro’s 49 year experiment in Cuba or Robert Mugabe’s 28 year experiment in Zimbabwe?
Really looks to me like the Democrats protest too much. Bush pretty much summed up Democrat foreign policy. I hope they keep whining about it. Maybe more people will pay attention to what is in store for us with Obama in the White House.
I am so tired of every little thing being labeled an attack. Every little thing. What would happen if the whiners were actually attacked? Let’s find out. Someone of note must grab a media ear and let loose. Name names. Scathe. Scald. Burn those mothers up. Please. I want to see a genuine verbal attack labeled as such. For once.
Aren’t we talking about a summit between leaders and not back-channel talks? Doesn’t Obama want to meet with Mr Iran Whackjob, without preconditions, a leader to leader summit? The problem with such a meeting is it confers status onto whackjobs.
#74 kate said:
Bingo.
Obama = Wuss.
On May 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, TheOtherSide said:
It’s a little ironic that the same right-wing punditry that slammed the Dixie Chick for slamming Bush while on foreign soil are not applauding Bush for slamming Obama while on foreign soil.
Natalie Maines made disparaging remarks specifically towards a sitting President as we prepared for war.
President Bush directed his comments towards those who’d break bread with terrorists.
If the white flag fits, wave it.
There is also no escaping the fact that, like it or not, Dick, George Bush is the President, and you, and Senator Obama are not. As President, he is the head of state, and that is why he, and not you, was invited to speak in Israel.
Once again, the democrats were doing this way before Bush did it, and he they actualy used his name. Remember carter and pelosi overseas? Once again we see the duble standard.
And so he will be on O’Reilly when?
Sen Obama wants to talk with Ahminejehad of Iran so that he might look into his eyes and see his soul.
It worked for Pres Bush in approaching Rootin’ Tootin’ Putin, leader for life of Russia. Right?
Let’s all be consistent, we all talk, we all listen, but we all don’t look into someone’s eyes and fall in love.
Even tho President Bush says he wasn’t pointedly referring to Obama but the whole appeasement mindset in general, it’s still funny that Obama immediately recognized himself as an appeaser and made sure everyone knew he was one by his over-reaction. Time to fire the political advisor in this campaign.
I find his speech ironic because for the last seven years the Bush administration has been trying to appease a group dedicated to destroying America and our way of life. Their insidious hatred of freedom, justice and our God given rights hasn’t deterred the White House from trying to make peace with a group that despises the US and its law abiding citizens. Most of you have probably already guessed the name of this group that threatens America, but for those of you who may still be wondering, the name of this organization is ……… the Democratic Party.
Now that is priceless!
The “enemy of my enemy is my friend” party gets really paranoid when the mention of appeasers is mentioned, just like they did when the term “unpatriotic” was used on the “dissenters.”
It just goes to show you that the truth hurts, and the guilty squeal the loudest when called on the carpet.
Obama revealed himself for what he is when he thought the President was talking about him.
Truth hurts, doesn’t it?
Barak Hussain states that he is willing to sit with terrirism sponsoring Iranian President or North Korean loon.
Bafoon Carter actually meets the Hamas leader, against the sitting President’s wishes.
And Bush is supposed to remain quiet?
What do they say, “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen?”
Re: #73 (BrianNY)
uh, Brian…um. DUH! cuz he’s a liberal. jeesh! if negotiation fails, go back and negotiate again. it’s the liberal way, dontcha know?
or, to retell a favorite unconfirmed (call it urban myth) of mine…
the scene is berkley. [insert your favorite code-pink-like lib "non-violent" protesting organization here] is protesting israel for completely obliterating an “innocent palestinian settlement”. (they have not mentioned anything about the palestinian suicide bomber that just took out a disco-club in israel.)
a lone conservative wades into the protest, hauls off and ***WHACK!!!*** punches one of the protesters right in the face, badly bloodying his nose. the protester, rage in his eyes, whirls to retaliate, but our conservative friend holds his hands up and says, “wait a minute! you guys are non-violent! by your own beliefs, you should be initiating negotiations with me and asking me why i felt the need to strike you. what is it that you can do to make me feel better about myself and less violent towards you?”
the protester looks about, realizing the crowd has hushed. they’re waiting for him to do the “right” thing. the non-violent thing. negotiate. not retaliate.
the protester relaxes. shrugs his shoulders, grins sheepishly and says, “you’re right. i almost lost my cool for a minute there. and i apologize. please tell me how you feel. tell me why it is you…”
***THRUMP!!!*** our conservative friend strikes again, this time a fist in the stomach. as the protester doubles over, coughing, the conservative starts to giggle. then laugh. the protester looks at him with pained eyes. he’s clearly confused. perhaps i’ll learn how to handle this situation in my indoctrination capstone class…?
Obummer can’t handle the truth. The democrats are a party of appeasment.How can people think this nitwit can be a good President of the Greatest Nation on earth? He’s too much of a cry baby to be Commander-In- Cheif of our military forces.
Here’s another ‘loser’ who complains when people call him an ‘appeaser’:
American relations with Israel plunged to their lowest point in a decade yesterday when the White House denounced as “unacceptable” statements by the Israeli prime minister comparing the US coalition-building in the Arab world to British appeasement of the Nazis in the 1930s.
The Bush administration was reported to be furious with Mr Sharon’s actions, and the White House spokesman, Ari Fleischer, told journalists that the president felt personally affronted by the comparison to Neville Chamberlain and the discredited policies of appeasement in the run up to the second world war. Mr Bush is an avid admirer of Winston Churchill.
Of course that was way back in 2001, so I guess it doesn’t count.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/06/israel
What does he think “unconditional” means?
Does anyone else think that picture of BHO looks exactly like the guy on SNL who impersonates him? When I first saw it, I honestly couldn’t decide who it was.
I think the guy on SNL has more experience. At least he wouldn’t make the same lame mistakes…