The problem with McCain’s Big Vision Thing speech; Update: “I will ask Democrats to serve in my administration;” “Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control” (hahaha)
You’ll have to forgive me for not getting all worked up about John McCain’s BVT (Big Vision Thing) speech this morning in Columbus, Ohio.
The fatal flaw lies in McCain’s persistent belief, shared by the MSM and Beltway pundits, that partisanship in and of itself is at the root of all our ills.
McCain’s problem is that he has allied himself, for the unprincipled, empty cause of mindless “bipartisanship,” with people and causes that move our country in the wrong direction.
I don’t want a Republican presidential nominee who makes common cause with La Raza/The Race.
I don’t want a Republican presidential nominee who sneers about profits like Ralph Nader.
I don’t want a Republican presidential nominee who talks and walks like Al Gore.
And as I’ve said before in response to the annoying McCain platitudes about “reaching across the aisle” and “getting things done:”
When did it become the Republican Party’s top priority to “get things done?”
“Get things done” is mindless liberal code for passing legislation and expanding government.
And as McCain’s ample legislative record demonstrates, “reaching across the political aisle” never entails pulling opponents to the right. It always entails selling out the right.
How about defending our side of the political aisle?
How about standing up to the regulatory and legislative encroachment of those on the other side of the political aisle?
How about limiting the damage done by Democrat meddlers trying to get their “things done?”
How about less trashing of the entrepreneurs on our side of the aisle who are the engine of our economy?
How about getting more things undone?
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From the prepared text of the speech (full text here):
Next January, the political leadership of the United States will change significantly. It is important that the candidates who seek to lead the country after the Bush Administration define their objectives and what they plan to achieve not with vague language but with clarity.
So, what I want to do today is take a little time to describe what I would hope to have achieved at the end of my first term as President. I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things. I am presumptuous enough to think I would be a good President, but not so much that I believe I can govern by command. Should I forget that, Congress will, of course, hasten to remind me. The following are conditions I intend to achieve. And toward that end, I will focus all the powers of the office; every skill and strength I possess; and seize every opportunity to work with members of Congress who put the national interest ahead of partisanship, and any country in the world that shares our hopes for a more peaceful and prosperous world.
…I am well aware I cannot make any of these changes alone. The powers of the presidency are rightly checked by the other branches of government, and I will not attempt to acquire powers our founders saw fit to grant Congress. I will exercise my veto if I believe legislation passed by Congress is not in the nation’s best interests, but I will not subvert the purpose of legislation I have signed by making statements that indicate I will enforce only the parts of it I like. I will respect the responsibilities the Constitution and the American people have granted Congress, and will, as I often have in the past, work with anyone of either party to get things done for our country.
For too long, now, Washington has been consumed by a hyper-partisanship that treats every serious challenge facing us as an opportunity to trade insults; disparage each other’s motives; and fight about the next election. For all the problems we face, if you ask Americans what frustrates them most about Washington, they will tell you they don’t think we’re capable of serving the public interest before our personal and partisan ambitions; that we fight for ourselves and not for them. Americans are sick of it, and they have every right to be. They are sick of the politics of selfishness, stalemate and delay. They despair when every election — no matter who wins — always seems to produce four more years of unkept promises and a government that is just a battleground for the next election. Their patience is at an end for politicians who value ambition over principle, and for partisanship that is less a contest of ide as than an uncivil brawl over the spoils of power. They want to change not only the policies and institutions that have failed the American people, but the political culture that produced them. They want to move this country forward and stake our claim on this century as we did in the last. And they want their government to care more about them than preserving the privileges of the powerful.
There are serious issues at stake in this election, and serious differences between the candidates. And we will argue about them, as we should. But it should remain an argument among friends; each of us struggling to hear our conscience, and heed its demands; each of us, despite our differences, united in our great cause, and respectful of the goodness in each other. That is how most Americans treat each other. And it is how they want the people they elect to office to treat each other.
If I am elected President, I will work with anyone who sincerely wants to get this country moving again. I will listen to any idea that is offered in good faith and intended to help solve our problems, not make them worse. I will seek the counsel of members of Congress from both parties in forming government policy before I ask them to support it. I will ask Democrats to serve in my administration. My administration will set a new standard for transparency and accountability. I will hold weekly press conferences. I will regularly brief the American people on the progress our policies have made and the setbacks we have encountered. When we make errors, I will confess them readily, and explain what we intend to do to correct them. I will ask Congress to grant me the privilege of coming before both houses to take questions, and address criticism, much the same as the Prime Minister of Great Britain appears regularly before the House of Commons.
We cannot again leave our problems for another unluckier generation of Americans to fix after they have become even harder to solve. I’m not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries. We are rivals for the same power. But we are also compatriots. We are fellow Americans, and that shared distinction means more to me than any other association. I intend to prove myself worthy of the office; of our country; and of your respect. I won’t judge myself by how many elections I’ve won. I won’t spend one hour of my presidency worrying more about my re-election than keeping my promises to the American people. There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I’m elected President, the era of the permanent campaign will end. The era of problem solving will begin. I promise you, from the day I am sworn into office until the last hour of my presidency, I will work with anyone, of either party, to make this country safe, prosperous and proud. And I won’t care who gets the credit.
Thank you.
The bulk of the speech is a “look back” as if it were 2013 and McCain’s assessing all his progress as president. You know it’s pure fantasy because of this line:
Illegal immigrants who broke our laws after they came here have been arrested and deported. Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control, and the American people accepted the practical necessity to institute a temporary worker program and deal humanely with the millions of immigrants who have been in this country illegally.
At no time in American history has illegal alien amnesty ever led to a reduction in–let alone control of–illegal immigration.
Fantasy land.
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Excellent, wonderful post.
When will they ever learn? Lead, don’t follow.
and just how much of anything McCain says does he expect us to believe?
Heck, I’m still waiting for him to “reach across the aisle” to Conservatives.
I didn’t bother to read the speech. Just more of the same. Excellent analysis Michelle. I don’t want a Republican presidential nominee whose name begins with John and ends with McCain.
Forgot to add - It’s just another empty speech.
It means nothing to me.
huh? whats he smokin? geez, is this pothead thursday?
AJ - He’s smoking Mexican cigarettes
Discussing sports is a friendly argument. Discussing the state of the world and our status should not be treated lightly.
Will he also have fire side chats where we all will pull up to the radio and turn it on.
He sure is courting AARP with his simplier times ideology.
I am going to enjoy voting for someone other than McCain.
He sounds like he’s reading a bedtime story. Its a tone I don’t trust. Everything sounds lovely doesn’t it? And what southern border is he talking about? Mexico’s?????
Is this going to be the 1st presidential election since President Lincoln not to have a Republican candidate?
McCain is a senile maverick gone amuck!
McCain isnt someone I would vote for, but, if he wants to know the truth, here it is.
We don’t want a RINO. We don’t want someone who caters to everyone except us.
We want action. We want things to be done that protect our country, secure our borders, get rid of the scourge of illegals here already…we don’t want to hear more empty promises and rhetoric. We want someone who stands by their word and who puts America first. We dont want your speech. We want your actions to speak louder than your words.
We dont want your blind allegiance and ignorance over global warming, over Iraq, and other important international issues. We want someone who puts our country first. Someone who listens to reason and doesn’t fold like a house of cards at the first sign of trouble.
McCain has shown me nothing in the election process so far that demonstrates he’ll do anything different that his opponents or his democratic aisle friends.
I want to see substance. Leave the speeches for the weakminded and the ignorant.
McCain is a moron if he believes in man-caused global warming. If he doesn’t believe in it then he’s using it as an issue to force more government control on us and lessen our freedoms - and that makes him just plain evil.
The borders are under control!!!…yeah right! Of course he said he won’t amnesty until he is assured they are under control. (Boy …he did that even before he took office!) (Bill Richardson has already certified his border is just fine…..Only Mexicans Allowed!!) (Tell that to the law enforcement people being assassinated on the border every day)
I vote NO CONFIDENCE in this doddering old fool….You would think these idiotic Republican FOOLS would read some of their own mail or count up those Mexican BUSH PESOS we all have so generously sent them. All this time I thought these politicians were corrupt.Now I find out they are just damn STUPID!
Oh and btw, I think he knows damn well he is not budging conservatives. This speech is for the indy’s and conservative dems. He’s wiping his ass with the rest of us.
What he means is that they’ll write a law that drops the word ‘illegal’ so that all immigrants are legal no matter how they came here. Maybe eventually they won’t even have to take the time to come here to get government benefits.
I don’t understand why anyone would want to be a temporary guest worker program and go through the paperwork when they can just break the law and become a citizen. McCain needs to explain why anyone would be a ‘temporary guest worker’ when being an American citizen means simply breaking the law that he makes. A temporary guest worker couldn’t be a citizen, but an illegal alien can. He just doesn’t get it.
I’m ready to elect “None of the above” as President!
The problem with McCain is that he is well, McCain.
How about a little “humane” treatment for the American middle class?
The system is so broken it’s beyond comprehension.
Don’t forget to mention #12 - despite what these politicans think, we actually know the difference!
less is more…particularly for the next 4 years.
He just doesn’t know when to keep quiet and when he does open his mouth, he just really doesn’t know how to relate to conservatives… I wonder why.
Suppose they held an election and nobody voted? With discontent running high in both parties it looks like this election will set a record for low turn out.
I’m voting Libertarian this year!
What planet does this guy live on?
‘illegal immigrant’ and ‘illegal alien’ will come under the ‘hate speech’ law.
I think if conservatives vote for this guy it serves only communicate to him that we approve of his views and what he’s doing. But vote for him they will.
oh yeah..and then they’ll gripe about everything he does while in office…
WTF? Where did you get your mindless decoding book? Maybe “getting things done” means “getting things done”
Let me see, you didn’t read the speech, but Michelle’s analysis is excellent…and you know this because you didn’t read the speech?
You punked him.
AMEN!!!!
Preach, sista, preach!
(hate to think about it, but Barr is looking better all the time).
- letting two guys get married…“getting things done”
- creating the thought police…“getting things done”
- giving out green cards to 20 million law breakers…“getting things done”
should I go on? Like I said, the next 4 years…less is more
Recruiting bombers, jihadists killing our troops, econazis, racists, those who think we are the bullies or mean and selfish, that we have created and spread aids etc etc. Are these the friends that McCain is speaking about? What an arse, for a moment I almost supported him now I am sick of him and his service to America I can’t stand looking at the guy. I have come to the realization that no matter what I vote for or against the courts, special interests or an obscure guvment dept will over turn it. So why bother, I’m not spending a nickel I don’t have to I’m finding somewhere far far away to go. I am withdrawing from this farce I only wish there was somewhere else to go and start a new country in the vision of the founding fathers. I have been very patient in all of this I don’t believe now nor have I ever believed that the muslims deserved our help but I shut up about it and let them do their thing. Sorry but those days are over and the military can point the finger directly at all Democrats GWB JM and the rest of them. That’s right John people who used to support your vision in the ME even though it is seriously flawed are falling away, congratulations stupid. I don’t support any American who sells out the country here, I don’t care who they are helping over seas. If I ever hear or see a Vietnam era officer again it will so soon I grew up during the war I thought their failures had passed but these aholes just wont go away. Every time one of these fools opens their mouth I feel a little less proud to be an American(in their image) my only consolation is that we aren’t still stuck in Great Britain.
I’m not ranting this is absolute end of my rope frustration. They make me physically sick all of them.
Geeze, if this is idea of what we want there is something wrong with his logic.
I think this November I’ll write myself in for POTUS - then at least I’ll know I voted for someone who has our values at heart.
He really is completely insane if he thinks the Democrats are going to hold hands with him and sing kumbya. If the Republican party leadership continues with this Democrat-lite crap they’ll lose a more lot of congressional seats in November.
McCain states that the illegal immigrant criminality issue is fixed because now he can refrain from ever supporting tougher measures. La Raza has a big hip pocket, I see. Ben Franklin knew we couldn’t keep our republic… time for a revolution.
grumbles said:
Michelle’s anaylsis is based on McCain’s record… not his speech. Therefore, her analysis is, IMHO -excellent.
Who might “him” be? I’m a her and punked me? He did no such thing.
He’s no maverick, he’s a rebel…and we know who he’s rebelling against.
Michelle,
Time for the old poll. Bring it back and see how many would vote for “none of the above”, “hold my nose - McCain”…
Then, we can compare the two (previous vs new) and send the results to the RNC with a check for 2 cents.
As soon as I think I can’t get more depressed about our presidential choices - we get to see this guy free-form hallucinate on stage.
Can you say Senile Old Git?
It’s really getting to the point that I’ll just go Fetal in a corner this November. I have the choice of death by a thousand cuts by McCain, or just blowing my brains out with Obama.
Juan McAmnesty could give Dubya a run for Worst POTUS ever . Juan is just a plain out piece of ____. He’s NO American
Big surprise McCain wants to put Dems in his administration. He’ll govern more like them than someone in his own party! Here’s a great quip from Ronald Reagan speaking to the White House News Photographers’ Association 5/18/83: “There are some things that you and I have in common in addition to being on the opposite ends of the camera. For you, the darkroom is a place to develop film. For me, it’s a place the Democrats use as a think tank.” Our poor country.
It seems pretty clear that us ordinary folks and conservatives have not lost the vision of what America can and should be, and what’s needed to get there - but our so-called leaders have.
I sure won’t be voting for any of the sub-standard offerings we now have for President.
I’m still voting for McCain. I feel like I’ve accidently logged onto a left wing liberal blog, from all of these comments. One poster didn’t read the speech, but agreed with Mrs. Malkins anslysis.
Poor Billery, after all that a$$ kissing and My Little Pony gives his support to that…..that GUY ! Damn, thats gonna leave a mark ! Or is it a stain ? If we get those two cowards on the same ticket, we’ll have the same type of Socialism that has Europe on the ropes now. Edwards, go chase an ambulance and stay out of politics.
Leftwing blogs hate America and especially our military but you feel like you have logged on to one. Well you are the perfect McCain dupe probably aren’t even old enough to recall history. Yep uninformed smeary and completly clueless a perfect match you are.
How can anyone, much less an entire party of people be so out of step with what most Americans want. Marie Antoinette was more in tune with the people she ruled over than are the idiots in DC. Must be something in the DC water.
And as we have all said. mcamnesty will BS us into amnesty. Illegal Immigration has been brought under control? By what measure? Show me the proof Juan. And don’t show us that ’some 100K people were deported last year, which is up 50% from the prior year’ nonsense statistics. That just shows: 1) you guys have not done your job in the past 2) 100K out of 30M is not what I call success. Relativity does not apply to this situation. And the use of “humanely” and “guest workers” proves what we will get. Amnesty of 30M illegals who will bring in another 100M relatives over 5 years while the border is STILL wide open. Sigh!!! Let’s see how our board mcamnesty cheerleaders spin this. We are SOOOOO scrwed.
No, you are at the right blog. We just want a republican candidate who wants to uphold conservative principles. Is that too much to ask?
What, wrong thread ? My bad. More COFFEE please………….
If the alternative wasn’t a naive extreme radical Marxist, how many people would vote FOR McCain? The tenor of comments about him is, “He’s not as terrible as the alternatives,” but is that really enough?
As he adopts more and more of the fascist Left’s rhetoric, the more inclined I am to stay home and let the Obamessiah take over and lead this formerly great nation to Hell expeditiously instead of dragging it out with this death-by-a-thousand-cuts nonsense the RINOs are offering. Let’s just end it now.
McCain is the kiss of death to the republican party.
If he is elected..90% of Liberal Policies he will support…and in doing so..it will push America further in the wrong direction..and usher in a mega-Super Majority of Radical Liberals….to give America the final push over the ledge to destruction.
Face it.. no matter how bad the Senate/House appear to be.. almost all the problems America has, the blame is directed solely at the president. (Look at Gas prices that keep going up and up….and the fact that Democrats have the majority.. the blame is pointed for some reason on the president, not the Law makers who’s own incompetence has caused most of the problem).
Juan McAmnesty declares “Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control?” What world is he living in? Is he talking about Mexico’s Southern Border? He certainly isn’t talking about the US Southern Border!
He is starting with that line ALREADY before the election so he can declare day one that the “border is secure blah blah blah” and then pass amnesty for all the illegals. This is such an outrage! And the sad part about it is that the sheepeople in the US that voted for this POS will actually believe it!
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it probably a thousand times till the election: Juan McAmnesty will NEVER EVER get my vote or my cash!!!!!!
Maybe McCain is losing it and thinks he’s running for reelection.
We can humanely throw the illegal immigrants asses on a bus and ship them home.
#43: You have every right to vote for McCain, and those of us who feel a vote for him is approving of this horrible turn the Republican Party is taking to the left have every right to decline. It is our duty, as Americans, to hold our government up to high standards. To not do so is to give away, piece by piece, control of our liberties and freedom. If we don’t take a stand now, there may never be another Republican we can vote for with confidence.
Wait, he contradicts himself in the immigration section.
“Illegal immigrants who broke our laws after they came here have been arrested and deported.”
But also…
“the American people accepted the practical necessity to institute a temporary worker program… [for]millions of immigrants who have been in this country illegally.”
I thought they were all just arrested and deported, John!!
Someone please take that crackpipe away from this man!
Illegal immigration is far from being under control and as an Ohioan, I do not know where he is getting the idea that things are under control.
I wish McCain was running a “we suck less” campaign instead of “how much more can we be like the liberals”. I could get a little excited if it were so. After he jumped on the man made Gorebal Warming kick, I am getting the idea I will have convulsions if I try and vote for him. UGH
The only reason I will consider voting for him is the possibility that the next president will appoint 2 or 3 Supreme Court Justices. That said, the more he talks the more I think it is not worth it….
Sandra Froman, the immediate former President of the NRA, wrote a column in townhall.com indicating that she is on McCain’s justice committee extolling the wonderful justices McCain will pick!
I wrote to her and the NRA (whose leadership is slowly being seduced by Mc
cain’s camp like other so=called “conservative” orgs) that if the NRA endorses MCCAin, I will recind my Life Memebership to the NRA. I also told them that while they merely thinking about endorsing John McCain that I would withhold all contributions to the NRA immediately. I encourage others to do the same.
I do not have enough time in a day to go over the number of times the NRA screamed and yelled about McCain over McCain-Feingold, and his chairmanship of Americans for Gun sAfety, an anti-gun front group back in 2000, at a time we needed him and others the most.
Heads up, folks
I’ll say it again - don’t vote McCain. The GOP needs a wake up call, and if we have to suffer 4 years of socialism, so be it. I’d rather have the coming sh*t storm blamed correctly on blatant liberal socialism, than masked Republican socialism mistaken for conservatism.
Vote libertarian or constitutionalist, or just write in Ron Paul - it’ll make you feel much better about yourself.
Sorry, Her.How can you judge someone’s analysis of what another said without reading what the person said. It just didn’t make any sense.
Everytime this idiot opens his mouth lies fly out like illegals herding north. He is making everyone I know less likely to vote for the presidential slot. His only hope is going to be a good choice for VP and then to step the hell aside for a real conservative.
Looks like Obama or Hillary are in for 2008. Maybe both.
” i promise …to make this country safe, prosperous” By keeping the borders open? By granting amnesty to criminals? Tell that one to every parent of every kid killed, maimed and raped by illegal aliens. Tell that to underpaid Americans whose wages are deflated by illegals. Humph! Keep our military on the front…and here at home, too. Put the Guard on the southern border.
Yeah. Whatever.
As for the speech… No I didn’t read it and I don’t plan on reading it. It’s footing is based on some futuristic utopia born from the mind a senile man. And as I stated above. I believe Michelle’s analysis (i.e., everything posted above the speech) is excellent and right on point. Got it? I sure hope so. I abhor repeating myself.
lol. agreed, it would be a very honest slogan.
Because her anaylsis is based on his record - what DOES… not what he says. Pay attention, things are going to get a lot more complicated from here on out. I hope you make the cut.
Humane treatment! We had a squirrel that crossed our border into the house. It would not assimilate, never spoke english, and consumed all of the nuts. The humane thing to do was to capture him without harm, and return him to the forest. (we could have eat him, but my daughter objected).
if he was going for votes with this speech he failed.
AJ, he’s such a pompous ass that he thinks the election is over.
HOW in GOD’S name did we end up with him?
I will vote for BARR. Don’t agree with him on everything, that’s for certain.
But at least he is against illegals.
Doesn’t want a fence - said that would not stop them, so I guess he has a solution of sorts.
Everyone needs to vote for BARR to end this nightmare.
The first person to read this without throwing up gets a prize…
Shaken Republicans look to McCain as savior
Soul searching Republicans are turning to an unlikely savior, one-time party heretic and now presumptive White House nominee John McCain, as they try to stave off an electoral disaster.
Stung by the Democratic seizure of three staunch conservative seats in Congress, Republican lawmakers fear a shellacking in November’s general election, after losing control of both chambers of Congress in 2006.
The rise of McCain as their champion is not without irony, since the 71-year-old Arizona senator has quarreled with his own party for years on issues as diverse as immigration, campaign finance reform and global warming.
But it is precisely that independent streak that is drawing Republicans to his coattails, hoping he can cleanse them of the stain of gridlocked Washington.
Eric Cantor, Republican chief deputy whip in the House of Representatives, told reporters that the McCain brand was healthier than that of his party.
“John McCain is a demonstrated vote getter among independents, and his message and what he will be able to do in this election is extremely important.”
House Republican minority leader John Boehner told Fox News that with McCain at the top of the ticket, his demoralized party might spring a surprise in November.
“I think that we’re going to do a lot better than people think,” Boehner said.
“John McCain appeals to almost all Republicans. He also appeals to a wide array of independents and conservative Democrats.”
Democrat Travis Childers on Tuesday won Mississippi’s first congressional district, one of the safest Republican seats in the country, following his party’s recent special election wins in Illinois and Louisiana.
The win was another triumph for the strategy of matching socially conservative Democrats, who often oppose abortion and back gun rights, to conservative districts, where Republicans would normally ease to victory.
As they surveyed the damage Wednesday, Republican House leaders rolled out the first elements of a new agenda, dubbed “The Change You Deserve,” pinpointing the struggles of working families.
Significantly, a key player in their press conference was Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard chief who is now one of McCain’s most visible economic advisors.
Democrats see their win streak as a referendum on the unpopular president and dream of an electoral landslide after a Washington Post/ABC poll this week found eight in ten Americans think the country is on the wrong track.
Tom Cole, who heads Republican congressional campaign efforts, delivered an unusually stark warning, telling his party’s candidates “to take stock of their campaigns and position themselves for challenging campaigns this fall.”
But Adam Putnam, chairman of the House Republican conference, suggested Republicans could prosper without their president up for reelection.
“The President is not on the ballot,” he said.
Top Democrats will not let them creep silently out of Bush’s shadow.
“What happened in Mississippi was a day for reckoning for the failed policies of the Bush administration,” said Chris Van Hollen, chairman of the House Democratic campaign committee.
And he said McCain, who recorded a message for the defeated Republican candidate in Mississippi, had failed to save his party.
“They thought he would be a life preserver, he wasn’t — he was an anchor.”
Democratic House majority leader Steny Hoyer meanwhile mocked the new Republican slogan, “The Change You Deserve,” saying it had already been used to market an anti-depressant medicine.
Democrats, who seized control of both chambers of Congress in 2006, are looking to expand their 37-seat majority in the House, and increase their tally in the 100-seat Senate from the current 51.
Republicans are particularly bracing for losses in the Senate, since in what was already shaping up as a bad year they have 23 seats up for reelection compared to only 12 for the Democrats.
McCain is taking a calculated risk to appeal to Hillary’s voters. I’m more determined now to vote for Bob Barr. It’s his final “spit in the face” to conservatives. To all the McCain/Republican supporters…save your breath.
I’ll wait four years for Bobby Jindal. He’s the only hope on the horizon for conservatives.
woops forgot the link
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080515073312.w25iyzae&show_article=1
Y’all made your choice by not supporting Mitt. Now you’ve got to live with that choice.
I’m working on it.
Yet, weren’t there one or two Bush nominees McCain believed were “too conservative”? I’m not sure he can even be trusted to even present SCOTUS nominees that we would approve of.
He’ll more likely be working with “the other side of the aisle” in congress to get appointees that meet with his Ted Kennedy’s approval in the name of bipartisanship.
I voted FOR Mitt. Next.
silky,
you seem reasonable… there’s hope for you yet.
How about deporting them because they broke our laws by coming here illegally?
McCain better do some recalculations.
If you think the war in Iraq is costing us too much . . .Read this:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: here
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
verify here
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify here
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
verify here
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify here
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify here
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify here
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify here
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify here
10. Illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
Verify here
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border; also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify here
12. The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.”
Verify here
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify here
14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.”
Verify here
The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
BINGO
Sure, because supporting flip-flop Mitt really makes you a good conservative. Simply following a Massachusetts liberal based on ridiculous campaign rhetoric that so obviously was 100% pandering, is like voting for George W. in 2000.
Actually guys, I fully beleive this idiot will win the election even if conservatives don’t vote for him. Obama is just too radical to get the Dem white working class vote. I sure wish HRC would win the Dem primary. Then it is a push between her and mcamnesty on policies. However, conservatives can make a HUGE statement by voting in mass for a single independent. Thinks about it. If a true conservative independent could draw 10-15% of the vote, parties as well as voters woudl take notice for future elections. Check out Pastor Baldwin for Consitution party. he is dead set against amnesty.
But what really gets me is that we don’t have one candidate standing against amensty in the 2 parties, yet Americans were very clear they are against amnesty and open border. Shutting down the phone banks should have been a clue. Yet, they persist in trying to ram guest workers/without truly securing the border/amensty down our throats. Something is rotten in Denmark.
But what really gets me is that we don’t have one candidate standing against amensty in the 2 parties, yet
That’s because by design, this is goin down by hook or crook.
“bipartisanship”: A codeword. Pol-speak for do nothing, pander to the special interests, screw the American people, be feckless and useless in office until I retire with a fat pension or get a lucrative consulting job.
The illegal immigrant problem “brought under control”: McCain-speak for: jobs are scarce right now because of the economic downturn. Illegal construction workers are not in demand. Watch out for an increase in property crimes.
sorry don’t know how the quote option missed the first part…
#78 On May 15th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Ahh a Lion! said
I agree. I voted for Tancredo, even though he had w/d from the race by the time the Texas primary occured. Mitt is better than mcamnesty for sure, but the bar was set pretty low by mcamnesty in the first place.
#57 love2rumba. I too am an NRA member, 14yrs. They sent my dues statement for this year and I’m withholding it for the same reason. I don’t think Big Juan is all that strong of a candidate and told them so ! Glad I’m not alone.
What if we supported Tancredo? or Thompson? or Hunter? Does that mean that we did wrong by not voting Romney?
I dont believe that to be the case.
On May 15th, 2008 at 11:58 am, greysheepdog said:
NP. And you are 100% correct. I am Mr anti-conspiracy. But man, there is no way they have not gotten the message. I knew all along mcamnesty would set up his amnesty push as time went along. He is NOT TRUSTWORTHY on the subject. He never ‘got the message”.
McCain will be activity implementing the Democratic agenda. That is bi-partisonship. And the Republicans will quicky learn that “resistance is futile”
I have to say it - Ron Paul is pulling in 7-16% of the vote in EVERY state primary so far. He also has an uncompromising stand against amnesty, which he has stated numerous times. He’s also still a candidate! Looks like you haven’t taken notice of any of that.
I’m not attacking you here - I really like Chuck Baldwin - I’m just saying that if Ron Paul is so marginalized, that his accomplishments don’t even draw your attention. Even when proposing an idea which is exactly what he has done this election cycle, then really what impact will a conservative independent have to have to make a statement?
Hmmm…..so the “McCain brand” is healthier than that of the Republican party, eh?….smacks of more poll-driven politics rather than actual principles.
The more this goes on the more tempted I am to just vote for Obama and be done with it……
Partisanship = agreeing with the democrats.
If John McCain wants to put liberal Democrats in cabinet positions, is there really a point for voting for him?
Did you know that 2+2=4 not 5?
you’re correct statistically about RP. But honestly, if thats all he can muster, it doesnt seem enough to pull off a general election.
And yes, his immigration policy is decent.
His cut and run strategy, his lack of a spine for Iraq…makes me want to vomit. While his domestic programs dont all seem off the wall (notice i said dont seem…), his foreign policy stances are, for a lack of a better term, $h!t.
I saw a Maxine cartoon this morning that reads…”I’m beginning to wonder what the next 4 years with no president would be like”
Couldn’t be worse than the choices we have today.
After months and months of trying to figure what possibly is going on, it finally hit me. Although I laugh at conspiracy theorists and what they cook up, this candidacy would be a logical reason to believe at least some of what they say. My personal belief, now, is that the “powers that be”, hand-in-hand with McCain, know that he will only be in office for one term. Therefore, he has absolutely nothing to lose by caving to whatever policies they have chosen. SPP? North American Union? Open borders? Yes, indeed - a true patriot and conservative would NEVER allow this to happen. I believe to the depths of my soul that he will do whatever bidding his handlers tell him to. When I grew up, I became a Republican because of my belief in the independence and dignity of each person. There will always be a part of our society who truly need help to make it through this life. But when I think of the struggles my spouse and I had over the years trying to raise a family, own a home, and send our children to college, with absolutely NO HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT - nor any expectations that we DESERVED IT (although we were at “poverty” level - it made us, as well as our children, stronger for it - we worked harder and moved up in our respective jobs. No, we were/are not college graduates - we are just hard workers. They went through college, paid for BY US, paying MONTHLY PAYMENTS to the University. They have graduated with NO DEBT - they worked full-time starting from the age of 16 to earn spending money. They are responsible, hard-working young adults now. One of them has no insurance through his job - he recently had emergency major surgery. His bill, for the 5 HOURS he was in the hospital (ncluding surgery time) was over $13,000 - not including doctor charges. He will pay this on a monthly basis. He will not walk away from it - he used his real name and social security number. Oh, but then, he is a white young man - you know, the BIG BAD BOOGEYMAN in today’s world. I’m sick of it. I’m sick of this administration, and it makes me want to vomit when I think of what’s in store for the next 4 years - with ANY OF THE 3 RUNNING. Republicans, either lead or get the heck out of our way. I’m sure McCain meant that now that the “largest raid” in history (400) happened - that shows our borders are secure and illegal immigration is under control. God help us all.
You know what? Come November 2nd, write in Fred Thompson. Or whoever you want. All the people who vote for Obama will outnumber the few people who vote for McCain and the ones not voting, or writing in real conservatives.
Obama will win, we well have 4 or more likely 8 years of President Obama and the entire country will get what President Obama and his 100% liberal democrats in his cabinet with not one single conservative - along with the democrats in the house and senate - will give to America.
I bet that it’s going to be fun. A lot of fun. At least you’ll have the satisfaction of not voting for McCain. And that’s all that matters.
Right?
McCain will never change his position on amnesty…….and he keeps saying he won’t.
No way I’m voting for McAmnesty…..no matter what!
Re: abstractmind
I understand your position completely, I think it comes down to weighing the policy positions. If the war tops the list, McCain is gonna keep it going - if domestic issues are the tops, McCain is really going to screw us over. Paul right now, is just about making a statement to the corrupt GOP.
The reason I like Paul is that his domestic issues are absolutely spot on, and that far outweighs any questions I have about his foreign policy - enough so, that I really enjoy reading about his insurgent delegates making life hard for the GOP.
America First.
This is why I could not vote for Ron Paul.
On May 15th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, birdlady79 said:
SPOT ON birdlady79. I believe the wink wink nudge nudge started in the year 2000.
I agree, except that I think is a global form of socialism. The enemy as far as they are concerned are the nationalist. So look at their agenda.
Iraq: (despite the patriotic slogans, a means to use US resources globally - it makes the US military the policemen of the world.)
Global Warming: Used to raise the priority of the GLOBE over national interest. It is using science as a means to an ends.
Illegal immigation: It is taking away the Illegal, so that citizenship becomes meaningless. One gets all benefits of this country as soon as they hit our shores.
Mortgage crises: Used to devalue the US dollar. A convenient way to steal the savings fo millions of American citizens for globalist control of US markets.
It is a Systematic Attack on the rights of the US citizens for control of the country. The Republicans have now merged with the Democrats, and left us with no viable alternative at this time.
wise_man wrote:
Each day even before being President, McCain moves leftward. But he’s got that “R” after his name, you say! Oh, that makes all the difference, right?
I submit that ANY of the three will be a disaster - but McCain will be harder to fight against because, hey, he’s one of us, don’t you see that “R”? The RINOs and the Democrats will love him much more than conservatives, that’s for sure.
But there’ll be much more resistance against Obama (or perhaps Hillary but I think she’s gone at this point). And that resistance will come from almost all Republicans.
Some posters seems to think McCain is saying the border is secure now….remember, it’s the end of his first term in his speech, and he’s assuming he hasn’t died of old age and has secured the border. The killer is he still wants to give the upteen millions of illegals already here amnesty………just like he always has.
McCain can NEVER be trusted and voting for McCain “because the alternative is worse” is, IMO, a terrible idea.
That’s fair. his domestic policy isnt a huge problem. he would fair well there i think.
however.
When he lets iraq slide…and when that falls and becomes an al qaeda stronghold…where do you think they’re going next?
It’ll be disneyland. but not on vacation.
Wise_Man,
Do you want a Republican party corroded from within by a Democrat infiltrator?
Then vote McCain
If the delegates at the GoP convention do not toss McCain to the curb, then the GoP is dead… and deservedly so.
It will be nuclear winter for conservatives near-term, but in the long run, ditching McCain and his idiocy is the best we can hope for at this point in the process.
There is such a thing as ‘Truth in Advertising’.. yaknow,, altho it doesn’t apparently apply to politicians.
This seals the deal for me. I have struggled and struggled with this and was inclined to hold my nose if it were Obama/McCain but now I simply wont. I will not vote for McCain. I will support ONLY CONSERVATIVE candidates. No RINOs. Frankly, if Obama is elected, we can run a REAL conservative against him and win House,Senate and President too.
Between the global warming hoax and his pandering to illegals, what IS the difference between him and the Dems? Not enough for me to support.
RE: post 96
Wise_Man,
Do you want a Republican party corroded from within by a Democrat infiltrator?
Then you can vote for John McCain this fall
Why is it that I suddenly question whether or not he actually proof-read his speech before giving it?
No domingan, I think he meant exactly what he said….
Fast-Foward…the speech is at the END of his first term….in other words, it’s fantasy.
I still think, even with conservatives staying home, that McCain will still win. With Obama running for the dems, recall that the true racists in this country are democrats (they are the first to point out an individual’s skin color), McAmnesty will get the votes of the elderly and joe-six-pack democrats who decide to go to the polls that day.
No, that’s what he meant! He proposes that they should be kicked out, but only unless and until they break some law AFTER they get here.
It should have read “Illegal immigrants break our laws by their very coming here…”
In the battle between President Obama and what republicans in the senate and congress there are, or a President McCain and the democtats in the senate and house, which one of those two scenarios would harm us all less?
McCan’t is truly the LESSER of two evils, but evil nonetheless. I refuse to choose one evil over another. Voting for RINOs gets you more RINOs. Either the GOP will wake up or a true Conservative party will arise.
McCain is an idiot when it comes to the issues that I care about, but he is not a democrat.
If you think that it’s better to allow Obama to win and control the whitehouse for the next 4 or 8 years in order for a more conservative candidate to be voted up to the nomination in the republican primaries for the 2012 or 2016 elections, then that’s your choice.
wise_man asked:
The battle agains Obama would harm us less - because it would unite all those with traditional values, all those who believe America is a good and great place and that we must continue to keep it that way, against a clearly socialist enenmy who wants more government, more taxes, less freedom.
But McCain, as he has shown already by dividing the Republicans and conservatives, would continue to drive a wedge and many would go along with him under the guise that “He’s one of us” and that he can “reach across gthe aisle” which sounds good to those who ask “why can’t we all just get along?”.
As others have said, the promise to “get things done” under McCain means more and bigger government, and less freedom. But it would be done under the Republican name.
WearyCitizen - I would love to believe they would get the message, but when Perot got 20% of the vote, the Rs learned NOTHING.
It seems everytime we do something to get their attention, they interpret it backwards and think we want them to go more liberal. They’re living in lala land.
The only thing that will get anyone’s attention, is no fuel, a bankrupt America, loss of wealth going overseas from people sick of being taxed to death and the country in a bad, bad way.
That would be the only way to get the attention of the ‘American Idol’ watching American public.
I’m no prophet, I’m gonna guess they go for low-hanging fruit - so most likely Iran, maybe Syria or Lebanon - any of those Shiite countries. Those Sunnis have been at war with the Shiites for a millennium, can’t imagine it will stop now. Most likely AlQaeda will never take over Iraq as the Shiite majority will wage a devastating civil war for control. If Iran and Saudi Arabia get involved by supporting the different factions - it could turn into a regional war centered in Iraq. But that’s the Middle East as we’ve always known it, so what’s new?
Most likely Muslim on Muslim war will benefit Israel the most, as they are no longer top priority in the terrorist’s sights.
Sometimes we must lose the battle to win the war.
I think McCain would make a great president—of Mehico!
Sorry, Didn’t read