The problem with McCain’s Big Vision Thing speech; Update: “I will ask Democrats to serve in my administration;” “Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control” (hahaha)
You’ll have to forgive me for not getting all worked up about John McCain’s BVT (Big Vision Thing) speech this morning in Columbus, Ohio.
The fatal flaw lies in McCain’s persistent belief, shared by the MSM and Beltway pundits, that partisanship in and of itself is at the root of all our ills.
McCain’s problem is that he has allied himself, for the unprincipled, empty cause of mindless “bipartisanship,” with people and causes that move our country in the wrong direction.
I don’t want a Republican presidential nominee who makes common cause with La Raza/The Race.
I don’t want a Republican presidential nominee who sneers about profits like Ralph Nader.
I don’t want a Republican presidential nominee who talks and walks like Al Gore.
And as I’ve said before in response to the annoying McCain platitudes about “reaching across the aisle” and “getting things done:”
When did it become the Republican Party’s top priority to “get things done?”
“Get things done” is mindless liberal code for passing legislation and expanding government.
And as McCain’s ample legislative record demonstrates, “reaching across the political aisle” never entails pulling opponents to the right. It always entails selling out the right.
How about defending our side of the political aisle?
How about standing up to the regulatory and legislative encroachment of those on the other side of the political aisle?
How about limiting the damage done by Democrat meddlers trying to get their “things done?”
How about less trashing of the entrepreneurs on our side of the aisle who are the engine of our economy?
How about getting more things undone?
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From the prepared text of the speech (full text here):
Next January, the political leadership of the United States will change significantly. It is important that the candidates who seek to lead the country after the Bush Administration define their objectives and what they plan to achieve not with vague language but with clarity.
So, what I want to do today is take a little time to describe what I would hope to have achieved at the end of my first term as President. I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things. I am presumptuous enough to think I would be a good President, but not so much that I believe I can govern by command. Should I forget that, Congress will, of course, hasten to remind me. The following are conditions I intend to achieve. And toward that end, I will focus all the powers of the office; every skill and strength I possess; and seize every opportunity to work with members of Congress who put the national interest ahead of partisanship, and any country in the world that shares our hopes for a more peaceful and prosperous world.
…I am well aware I cannot make any of these changes alone. The powers of the presidency are rightly checked by the other branches of government, and I will not attempt to acquire powers our founders saw fit to grant Congress. I will exercise my veto if I believe legislation passed by Congress is not in the nation’s best interests, but I will not subvert the purpose of legislation I have signed by making statements that indicate I will enforce only the parts of it I like. I will respect the responsibilities the Constitution and the American people have granted Congress, and will, as I often have in the past, work with anyone of either party to get things done for our country.
For too long, now, Washington has been consumed by a hyper-partisanship that treats every serious challenge facing us as an opportunity to trade insults; disparage each other’s motives; and fight about the next election. For all the problems we face, if you ask Americans what frustrates them most about Washington, they will tell you they don’t think we’re capable of serving the public interest before our personal and partisan ambitions; that we fight for ourselves and not for them. Americans are sick of it, and they have every right to be. They are sick of the politics of selfishness, stalemate and delay. They despair when every election — no matter who wins — always seems to produce four more years of unkept promises and a government that is just a battleground for the next election. Their patience is at an end for politicians who value ambition over principle, and for partisanship that is less a contest of ide as than an uncivil brawl over the spoils of power. They want to change not only the policies and institutions that have failed the American people, but the political culture that produced them. They want to move this country forward and stake our claim on this century as we did in the last. And they want their government to care more about them than preserving the privileges of the powerful.
There are serious issues at stake in this election, and serious differences between the candidates. And we will argue about them, as we should. But it should remain an argument among friends; each of us struggling to hear our conscience, and heed its demands; each of us, despite our differences, united in our great cause, and respectful of the goodness in each other. That is how most Americans treat each other. And it is how they want the people they elect to office to treat each other.
If I am elected President, I will work with anyone who sincerely wants to get this country moving again. I will listen to any idea that is offered in good faith and intended to help solve our problems, not make them worse. I will seek the counsel of members of Congress from both parties in forming government policy before I ask them to support it. I will ask Democrats to serve in my administration. My administration will set a new standard for transparency and accountability. I will hold weekly press conferences. I will regularly brief the American people on the progress our policies have made and the setbacks we have encountered. When we make errors, I will confess them readily, and explain what we intend to do to correct them. I will ask Congress to grant me the privilege of coming before both houses to take questions, and address criticism, much the same as the Prime Minister of Great Britain appears regularly before the House of Commons.
We cannot again leave our problems for another unluckier generation of Americans to fix after they have become even harder to solve. I’m not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries. We are rivals for the same power. But we are also compatriots. We are fellow Americans, and that shared distinction means more to me than any other association. I intend to prove myself worthy of the office; of our country; and of your respect. I won’t judge myself by how many elections I’ve won. I won’t spend one hour of my presidency worrying more about my re-election than keeping my promises to the American people. There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I’m elected President, the era of the permanent campaign will end. The era of problem solving will begin. I promise you, from the day I am sworn into office until the last hour of my presidency, I will work with anyone, of either party, to make this country safe, prosperous and proud. And I won’t care who gets the credit.
Thank you.
The bulk of the speech is a “look back” as if it were 2013 and McCain’s assessing all his progress as president. You know it’s pure fantasy because of this line:
Illegal immigrants who broke our laws after they came here have been arrested and deported. Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control, and the American people accepted the practical necessity to institute a temporary worker program and deal humanely with the millions of immigrants who have been in this country illegally.
At no time in American history has illegal alien amnesty ever led to a reduction in–let alone control of–illegal immigration.
Fantasy land.
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McCain will never change his position on amnesty…….and he keeps saying he won’t.
No way I’m voting for McAmnesty…..no matter what!
Re: abstractmind
I understand your position completely, I think it comes down to weighing the policy positions. If the war tops the list, McCain is gonna keep it going – if domestic issues are the tops, McCain is really going to screw us over. Paul right now, is just about making a statement to the corrupt GOP.
The reason I like Paul is that his domestic issues are absolutely spot on, and that far outweighs any questions I have about his foreign policy – enough so, that I really enjoy reading about his insurgent delegates making life hard for the GOP.
America First.
This is why I could not vote for Ron Paul.
On May 15th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, birdlady79 said:
SPOT ON birdlady79. I believe the wink wink nudge nudge started in the year 2000.
I agree, except that I think is a global form of socialism. The enemy as far as they are concerned are the nationalist. So look at their agenda.
Iraq: (despite the patriotic slogans, a means to use US resources globally – it makes the US military the policemen of the world.)
Global Warming: Used to raise the priority of the GLOBE over national interest. It is using science as a means to an ends.
Illegal immigation: It is taking away the Illegal, so that citizenship becomes meaningless. One gets all benefits of this country as soon as they hit our shores.
Mortgage crises: Used to devalue the US dollar. A convenient way to steal the savings fo millions of American citizens for globalist control of US markets.
It is a Systematic Attack on the rights of the US citizens for control of the country. The Republicans have now merged with the Democrats, and left us with no viable alternative at this time.
wise_man wrote:
Each day even before being President, McCain moves leftward. But he’s got that “R” after his name, you say! Oh, that makes all the difference, right?
I submit that ANY of the three will be a disaster – but McCain will be harder to fight against because, hey, he’s one of us, don’t you see that “R”? The RINOs and the Democrats will love him much more than conservatives, that’s for sure.
But there’ll be much more resistance against Obama (or perhaps Hillary but I think she’s gone at this point). And that resistance will come from almost all Republicans.
Some posters seems to think McCain is saying the border is secure now….remember, it’s the end of his first term in his speech, and he’s assuming he hasn’t died of old age and has secured the border. The killer is he still wants to give the upteen millions of illegals already here amnesty………just like he always has.
McCain can NEVER be trusted and voting for McCain “because the alternative is worse” is, IMO, a terrible idea.
That’s fair. his domestic policy isnt a huge problem. he would fair well there i think.
however.
When he lets iraq slide…and when that falls and becomes an al qaeda stronghold…where do you think they’re going next?
It’ll be disneyland. but not on vacation.
Wise_Man,
Do you want a Republican party corroded from within by a Democrat infiltrator?
Then vote McCain
If the delegates at the GoP convention do not toss McCain to the curb, then the GoP is dead… and deservedly so.
It will be nuclear winter for conservatives near-term, but in the long run, ditching McCain and his idiocy is the best we can hope for at this point in the process.
There is such a thing as ‘Truth in Advertising’.. yaknow,, altho it doesn’t apparently apply to politicians.
This seals the deal for me. I have struggled and struggled with this and was inclined to hold my nose if it were Obama/McCain but now I simply wont. I will not vote for McCain. I will support ONLY CONSERVATIVE candidates. No RINOs. Frankly, if Obama is elected, we can run a REAL conservative against him and win House,Senate and President too.
Between the global warming hoax and his pandering to illegals, what IS the difference between him and the Dems? Not enough for me to support.
RE: post 96
Wise_Man,
Do you want a Republican party corroded from within by a Democrat infiltrator?
Then you can vote for John McCain this fall
Why is it that I suddenly question whether or not he actually proof-read his speech before giving it?
No domingan, I think he meant exactly what he said….
Fast-Foward…the speech is at the END of his first term….in other words, it’s fantasy.
I still think, even with conservatives staying home, that McCain will still win. With Obama running for the dems, recall that the true racists in this country are democrats (they are the first to point out an individual’s skin color), McAmnesty will get the votes of the elderly and joe-six-pack democrats who decide to go to the polls that day.
No, that’s what he meant! He proposes that they should be kicked out, but only unless and until they break some law AFTER they get here.
It should have read “Illegal immigrants break our laws by their very coming here…”
In the battle between President Obama and what republicans in the senate and congress there are, or a President McCain and the democtats in the senate and house, which one of those two scenarios would harm us all less?
McCan’t is truly the LESSER of two evils, but evil nonetheless. I refuse to choose one evil over another. Voting for RINOs gets you more RINOs. Either the GOP will wake up or a true Conservative party will arise.
McCain is an idiot when it comes to the issues that I care about, but he is not a democrat.
If you think that it’s better to allow Obama to win and control the whitehouse for the next 4 or 8 years in order for a more conservative candidate to be voted up to the nomination in the republican primaries for the 2012 or 2016 elections, then that’s your choice.
wise_man asked:
The battle agains Obama would harm us less – because it would unite all those with traditional values, all those who believe America is a good and great place and that we must continue to keep it that way, against a clearly socialist enenmy who wants more government, more taxes, less freedom.
But McCain, as he has shown already by dividing the Republicans and conservatives, would continue to drive a wedge and many would go along with him under the guise that “He’s one of us” and that he can “reach across gthe aisle” which sounds good to those who ask “why can’t we all just get along?”.
As others have said, the promise to “get things done” under McCain means more and bigger government, and less freedom. But it would be done under the Republican name.
WearyCitizen – I would love to believe they would get the message, but when Perot got 20% of the vote, the Rs learned NOTHING.
It seems everytime we do something to get their attention, they interpret it backwards and think we want them to go more liberal. They’re living in lala land.
The only thing that will get anyone’s attention, is no fuel, a bankrupt America, loss of wealth going overseas from people sick of being taxed to death and the country in a bad, bad way.
That would be the only way to get the attention of the ‘American Idol’ watching American public.
I’m no prophet, I’m gonna guess they go for low-hanging fruit – so most likely Iran, maybe Syria or Lebanon – any of those Shiite countries. Those Sunnis have been at war with the Shiites for a millennium, can’t imagine it will stop now. Most likely AlQaeda will never take over Iraq as the Shiite majority will wage a devastating civil war for control. If Iran and Saudi Arabia get involved by supporting the different factions – it could turn into a regional war centered in Iraq. But that’s the Middle East as we’ve always known it, so what’s new?
Most likely Muslim on Muslim war will benefit Israel the most, as they are no longer top priority in the terrorist’s sights.
Sometimes we must lose the battle to win the war.
I think McCain would make a great president—of Mehico!
Sorry, Didn’t read all the posts so if I repeat somebody, it’s not on purpose:
What in the hell is McCain smoking? Illegal invaders under control? That’s the same kind of crap that spilled out of Antonio Vi Agra Grossa’s mouth the other day when he claimed that Los Angeles is as safe now as it was in the 1950’s.
We need to check the man’s sanity.
That’s your call. As long as you know exactly what you are getting yourself and me into.
Just to clarify, John Ansell, the excerpt was McCain explaining what he would hope he would have acheived after his four years as President – not that they are under control now, but would be by then.
The trouble is most Americans know nothing about history. They know the history of the time they have been alive but that’s all. What they have learned about history at school or in the media is not history but culture. They know what kind of food different peoples eat or the clothes that they wear and that’s supposed to substitute for history. If you don’t know the entire history of North and South America you are not capable of making a decision on anything. Lets review a couple things, right now there is a war against the police in Mexico thousands have been murdered, police chiefs are seeking asylum in the U.S. During the 80’s Nuns and Priests were being murdered south of the border by marxist revolutionaries like we see there today. They are even more powerful now so why have they not started murdering again? They learned their lesson back then, they provoked us into action, it is not yet time for mass killings.
After WWII many Nazis fled to South America and took up residence why would they do that? Because they believed they would be safe there. The Spanish settled south of the border the English north of it there has been more than a few fights between the two sides over the years. This problem is not new it is recurring periodically since the 1840’s the difference is now our leaders are surrendering to it instead of fighting it. We are being cowed by the likes of China. Why? The Chinese have had a piece of us in Korea they remember what it was like. Americans are head and shoulders above Chinese on the battlefield. Their only chance is a human wave and even that is no guarantee take Chosin for instance. We are now in bed with the red Chinese the people who deal with dissent by slaughter as at Tiananmen Square.
All of history has been distorted, the Russians have become instrumental in defeating the Nazis. Really? The Russians lost a million plus men, look at our losses were they helpful, sure instrumental, no. The Nazis never had a decent bomber on the eastern front even though Hitler saw us hammering his country into the ground through the air. I don’t think the Russians beat the Nazis without the Nazis stupid decisions, the destruction of German war material by the allies and the diversion of Hitler’s assets fighting a war over Germany and in the North Atlantic and Africa. Did you know that after the war in Russia the kids were not even told that America was part of that war? The Russians are not stupid they are aware of the truth even if they try to hide it its no surprise they never directly attacked us. That’s correct not only do we marginalize ourselves but other countries do too.
All of this is a tiny part of less than a 100 years of history I won’t even get in to the 1400 year old history of the ME. I will say two things, after WWI Lebanon was set aside for the Christians of the ME, how’s that working out for them there? What am I seeing in Iraq and Astan, Sharia law a code that advocates honor murder of family members among other grotesque practices, as an American I’m supposed to be good with that? Don’t get me wrong I am all for aggressively hunting down islamists no matter where they are. Anyway my point is know your history and their history not just culture otherwise start learning some new recipes. And my question is, how much history is JM aware of if any? I mean we gave away his birthplace and the Chinese have moved right in. He doesn’t seem to notice.
Heck, maybe I’m missing the point, but isn’t he talking as if it’s 2013?
I can’t seem to convince anyone of this, so maybe I’m wrong?
BOB, we already understand that – it’s you who thinks we don’t understand, and John Ansell and perhaps several others who thought he was talking about now.
Code speak for the hot fudge sundae with nuts amnesty McCain envisions as his legacy, graciously passed on from GW…or..its not Jan. 09…yet.
RE: #116
Wise_Man,
If John McCain is not a Democrat infiltrator, then why would John Kerry even ask McCain to be his VP running mate in 2004?
Hmmm…?
Sorry, I kept reading various post indicating this wasn’t understood……didn’t mean to insult anyones intelligence.(smiley here if I knew how)
No more! I’m sick of the Vote for McCain because we don’t want, fill in the blank. NO WAY!
If you get Obama as the candidate for Democrats, there will be enough of these “moderates” to vote for McCain that conservatives don’t need to. This is about the best time for a 3rd canidate we could possibly have. I’ve said it before and I will say it again, you don’t think a 3rd party can win? Then make the GOP the third party.
There are enough conservatives in this country to come up with another candidate to run and win. Apathy is what we don’t want. We have almost 6 months to quit whimpering and start coming up with our own candidate. The MSM and the parties don’t rule this country anymore like they used to. Are they still predominate and strong, of course, but so are we.
And when is enough enough with McCain? And why do we think he is the better choice over Obama or Hillary? Who told you this and what proof do you have? Taxes (no), conservative judges (hardly), illegal immigration (not so), 2nd amendment (not real strong), 1st amendment (enemy of all enemies).
Meanwhile, back in Juan’s home state things are going swimmingly….
Sheriff Joe: Fund cutting “dirty politics,” “total sham”
Wednesday, May 14, 2008
PHOENIX — Sheriff Joe Arpaio addressed recent cuts to the department’s illegal immigration enforcement fund, calling it “dirty politics” and “a total sham”.
Political fight over funding
Arpaio says that a $1 million dollar grant approved for the department’s illegal immigration enforcement measures on May 7th was denied days later due to an executive order issued by Governor Naptolitano creating a task force within the Department of Public Safety to go after the nearly 60,000 outstanding felony warrants in Arizona. The $1.6 million dollars needed to create the task force will in part come from the grant money that Arpaio says was approved for his department’s use.
“These people conspired to take away over one million dollars…money my office needs to fight illegal immigration,” Arpaio said.
The executive order issued by Napolitano claims that of the 58,897 outstanding warrants, 41,904 are in Maricopa County. The Department of Public Safety is named to lead the statewide multi-jurisdictional effort to serve on the outstanding warrants.
Arpaio claims that the move is in response to his crime sweeps. The Sheriff says he will continue the controversial sweeps despite the cut in funding.
“I still got a gun and badge, I’m still the sheriff,” Arpaio said. “We will continue – and Mesa, you’re next.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/l…..fb267.html
McCain still needs to have his head examined…
# 89 On May 15th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:
Umm. His district is within earshot of my home. I know who he is . And I like him. And if he was the candidate ALL conservatives voted for I would gladly vote for him. However, Paul, for all his good qualities shoots himself with conspiracy nonsense spouted by Alex Jones. Not to the extent of Alex but nonetheless. I have looked at all cndidates (except Barr in any detail but libertarians traditionally support open immgigration policy) and I like Pastor Baldwin best. But I could live with several others (Paul/Tancredo/Hunter/Barr) as long as it is a statement that conservatives are not being served and a 3rd party is needed.
President Eisenhower was good at that, ‘reaching accross the isle and such. Nixon, Ford and both Presidents Bush seem to do a tad too much reaching. They did not greatly increase the Conservative cause.
Good Bless Mr. Reagan, he is the only President who I feel truly loved and trusted the American people and Republic.
Go Joe!
Yeah, and notice the Dems don’t reach across the aisle for conservative causes. It’s always the Rs bending over to get the soap!
Here is how I see 2013 with either Obama or McCain
- After the Nuclear attacks in New York, Washington and Los Angeles in 2010, it was determined that non-existent immigration enforcement aided Mexican Illegals but also assisted terrorist entry and operations in the United States. NAFTA provision allowing Mexican truckers uninhibited access throughout the United States provided transportation of Nuclear weapons smuggled from Iran. The surviving Congress and the President are still trying to come up with a “comprehensive reform plan” even though the nation’s economy has collapsed.
- With the massive destruction in New York City the Stock Market is obliterate with many financial institutions. Unemployment has swelled to over 30 percent.
- Inflation is rampant. With the National Debt topping fifteen trillion dollars, no financial institution will loan money to the United States. Congress prints more money but it soon becomes worthless.
- Even though it was destroyed in the attack, the United Nations demands the United States rebuilds their building at the cost of U.S. taxpayers.
- Even though the theory of “Man Made Global Warming” has been completely disproved, the United States is still bound by the Kyoto it entered on 2009.
- China annexed Taiwan in 2011.
- All talk radio and internet bloggers have been deemed “hate Speech” and is banned.
Can’t be much of an “infiltrator” with it all out in the open and all. Kerry probably wanted to attract liberal republicans to vote for him and McCain. McCain wanted nothing to do with it. McCain was a likely choice by Jerry because McCain likes to ‘reach across the isle’ and capitulate with democrats more than any other republican.
I think that McCain as president will reach across the isle with democrats more often than a president Obama will with republicans(if at all). So – with a president Obama, republicans will be more screwed (in my opinion.)
John McCain is insane. His lust for power has rotted his brain.
maddmatt – with all due respect the MSM will still be in charge so the news will simply keep bleating, “The mass destruction was an inside job perpetrated by Dubya, Cheney and that ev-il genius Karl Rove. Big Oil and the Pharmeceuticals provide the financing.”
“President B. Hussein Obama is reaching out to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and France to help us rebuild. The shipment of Burkas is being airdropped as soon as possible.”
Alternate version: “El Presidente Juan McCaaaain is reaching south of the border to the great country of MEH-HE-CO for help rebuilding our country and is turning over Arizona, California and Utah as part of the agreement.”
Oh, I forgot to add, “Viva la Raza!”
He wants to be president, zorro. So does Hillary and Obama. Most likely, for the power that comes from holding the highest office in the land. I don’ think he’s insane. I do disagree with many of McCain’s position on the issues.
Joy-
That’s about right!
Something I really never understood is why, with a population of 300mil and growing, would the USA even NEED guest workers.
Except fot the fact they will work for LESS than a citizen and aren’t subject to the many government regulations a business would/does face for having US citizens on the payroll.
Add to that the indoctrinated idiots produced by government schools who have GREAT self esteem but have little to offer employers where science, math, and critical thinking (or ANY thinking) is involved.
And of course, didn’t Bill Gates donate $1 Billion to the UN? Wouldn’t that money have been put to better use for our children in encouraging them to study and prepare for jobs in Gates’ industry?
Oh, no, better to pad the accounts of those who represent countries from which Microsoft will get more temporary foreign workers who will work for less.
Rant over.
McCain’s drive to be president is driven by ego. He goes the democrat route by having no core conservative beliefs and appealing to as many people as possible, so he gets elected. Remember, his grandfather was an Admiral and his father was an Admiral. McCain’s injuries as a POW prohibited him from reaching that plateau in the Navy. Therefore, his only chance at a command equal to or higher than his father and grandfather, is to be Commander-in-Cheif.
?
You can’t be an admiral unless you can do 60 push-ups in 2 minutes?
So who is the Democrat running for President again, McCain or Obama? I can’t keep track!!!
It’s McCain, disguised as a Republican.
Obama is a Marxist disguised (barely) as a Democrat.
Party affiliation of candidates is really meaningless in this election.
No, we haven’t!! Juan, check this poll.
I may write in this guy in November.
[clicking heels to go back to 1981-1989] There’s no place like home… there’s no place like home… Sigh!
What a load of crapola. While ignoring the illegal act of
enteringinvading our country without our permission, what about those illegal aliens who committed serious crimes BEFORE they illegally entered? The McCain-Kennedy Shamnesty bill’s generous one business day waiting period for a Z visa would have allowed plenty of time to do background checks on all those sexual predators, murderers, human traffickers, et al.“One business day” – the biggest and most cynical insult to American citizens ever.
Bi-partisanship?? Think McCain-Kennedy.
This guy is a crackpot.
RE: #140
Wise_Man, you bring food for thought today…
The next POTUS will be the one relatively speaking with most conservative VP running mate.
If McCain does what I think he will do, he will pick Joseph Lieberman (I) as his running mate to grab Dems. This in turn will force Obama to pick either pro-gun Gov. Strickland of Ohio (for electoral numbers) or Sen. James Webb of Virginaia-both these men are already at the top of the dems list for VP.
If Obama then picks James Webb, you would have a Marine -Corp. vietnam vet, who served under Reagan as Sec. of the Navy, who is also pro-gun, and unlike anyone else out there…James Webb voted against McCain’s amnesty program
Under these extreme circumstances, it would be an argument for conservatives to vote for Obama, given McCain’s increasing isolation from the base of his party.
Yes we are living in the Twilight Zone
McAmnesty — It’s all about me, me, me — it’s all about me, me, me. And that’s all it’s ever been about.
We are so screwed!
The content is one thing, but he is just such a gawd-awful speaker! I think I’d rather listen to Hillary for 4 years.
BHO has such mellifluous tones and preacher-like cadence, it doesn’t matter what he says. Most voters are not thinkers. Content rarely reaches them and when it does, they find it annoying. So, why think deeply about it?
These guys are going to give me stuff? YAY!
AND these guys are going to stick it to the greedy corporations and the rich! Double YAY!!
Obamessiah will likely be our next president.
Just shoot me now.
A fire hose can be spouting water at full capacity and still be “under control”. A racecar can be driven at full throttle and still be “under control”. So what does McCain mean by “under control”?
I predicted that when McCain had the nomination in the bag, he would go back to turning his back on conservatives to reach across the aisle. Now I predict that if McCain gets elected, he will stop talking about controlling the border altogether.
McNasty,
If you want the country to thrive its simple, you and the rest of the politicos just need to Get out of our way!
tarpon-
Whenever McCain is campaigning for amnesty or the Presidency, he does speak in I and Me terms. This is something that scares the heck out of me. He does not listen to anyone, especially the American people. The “and the American people accepted the practical necessity to institute a temporary worker program” is really just him shoving it down our throats just like how he tried shove amnesty down our throats. The American people are just irrelevant to McCain.
Moo the cat for president…
I’m starting to see why Ann Coulter is endorsing Hillary.
Excuse me, but liberals aren’t to be negotiated with. We aren’t to compromise with them. Liberalism is a mental defect and liberals are to be defeated.
John McCain is a liberal- and we can blame the media that we have three liberal senators to chose from. It was 50 years ago that a senator had that office.
Here’s what I see: I can vote for McCain, just to keep the socialist out of office- but then I’ll get Amnesty and a whole host of other liberal crap, including the religion of Global Warming- and I’ll probably pay taxes on it.
Or not vote at all, and risk the socialist. But since he doesn’t know what he’s doing and bends easily still, he’ll proabbly be too intimidated to make major disasterous changes to the country, and in four years people will have regretted the vote and a republican will own that office for the next 50 years. (Just not McCain)
So what do I do? To vote or not to vote- that is the question. Either way, it’s bad. And I’m willing to sacrifice four years for a socialist idiot in order to expire McCain and ensure that a REAL conservative runs next.
We are so messed over this next election.We are going to be taxed and regulated to death! I will not hold my nose and vote McShame he has poked us in the eye and stabbed us in the back every chance he gets.I still cannot believe people say trust him on anything he says.
So now, according to the GOP’s nominee, it is “inhumane” to not give amnesty to felons?
Hell, why not just vote for Obama? At least when he makes us poor he’ll give us “free health care”. McCain makes Bush look like Reagan.
This is also from the speech:
If we give Amnesty for illegals, then every single non-violent offender should be released from jailor prison.
After all, we’re only talking about “paper crimes” here.
/sarcasm off
Maybe, but he is a liberal.
If you can find fault with this, as a goal, then we can safely assume, Michelle Malkin’s level of MDS is only barely exceeded by Keith Olbermann’s BDS.
wait…I take it back…It’s worse…Much worse.
Yeah? How’s the track record of the prior free trade agreements on that score? Are exports booming?
If you can’t find fault with amnesty for tens of millions of felons, plus vast new immigration programs, then your degree of McCain infautation is terminal.
It made me ill listining to McLame sound bites in his “calming” voice today. He is so not even a RINO, he is a flat out lib! We are sooo screwed.
That may be all well and good in your mind, but I respectfully ask you to please consider the following:
In 1992, many conservatives and Republicans voted for Ross Perot. Dole (R) was the loser. “Clinton I” reigned until 2000. And, in 2000, the Republicans won with … GWB.
ALL parties – this includes the Democrats, folks – are “slow” to learn. I however, do NOT think it behooves the country as a whole to “protest” one’s vote, in particular at such a time in history. America, Iran, Supreme Court members, etc etc, WILL NOT “WAIT UNTIL 2012.” …Not to mention how long Socilaist policies enacted in the upcoming years will endure (can you tell me how much of Lyndon Baines Johnson’s “Great Society” has been dismantled?!).
Your vote lives and breathes as of the first Tuesday this November 2008. Make it count. Thank you for your respectful consideration.
Fine…Then, we’ll hand YOU the shot-gun, and you can go shoot ‘em all.
LESSER OF TWO EVILS __ANYONE!!!!!
Let it all out Michelle
Christian Soldier,
Just settle back and watch with some chips. Michelle is particularly excitable. It is usual routine for her to continually fly off with outbursts. McCain is fine in November no matter how much Malkin cries and even if she stays home. McCain is not my perfect candidate by any stretch. However, I see each day that he is just his own person. He is honorable and pragmatic and frankly his talk and actions speak for themselves. It will be recognized by voters.
All of the ENEMIES of the Unites States are laughing their collective butts off at us. We won’t develop our own domestic resource, whine and cry about the high price of energy and fuel – (no drilling domestically although the Nigerians and Chinese are drilling oil just off our national coasts, no refining capacity increases, no nukes, no fossil fuel facilities) constrain our intelligence entities to saying “pretty please” as an interogation technique when questioning arrested terrorists, then blame the President and not our Socialist law makers for the result.
Now we have Barry Hussein Obama, Billary and Juan the accommodater to propose to save us from the monumental challenges that we face, Fed Financial policy, trade imbalances, energy crisis, and an invasion of Illegal Invaders that is taking our Educational, Health Provider industries into bankruptcy. (not to mention overloading the Prison system with ILLEGAL ALIENS) Nuclear weapons development in Iran which will lead to a NUKE WEAPONS race in all the Islamic Nations and a dollar which is devaluing at a 17% annual rate.
Now we have the three stooges who will further kill off what is left of our limping economy with “lets go green” Expanding Federal control over how we administer our environment. Global (gag) Warming. This arrogant attitude that a legislative body who has made an absolute disaster of social security, welfare and Immigration presume to be able to control the Planet’s weather.
Golly
Aren’t BVT(s) something you wear to “cover your ass”?
It sounds to me like you dont know how to deal with the illegal problems.
Eisenhower had the right idea.
Send them all home.
In CA, I voted for Arnold the first time, the lesser of 2 evils. Look what he is doing now: democrats in his cabinet (which McCain promises even before he is elected), refusal to support real marriage, pushing liberal agendas and destroying the CA economy, he is worse than Gray Davis. McCain will be a similar failure and a trader to republicans, except on a larger scale.
This is a time for strategy for conservatives. What choice will ensure that conservatism survives and we have a shot to save this country: 1. pur MCCAin in office (i.e., the 3d democrat running) or 2. put in the completely green and not likely to get much done because he will want to get reelected BO, let everyone blame him for failures and get a chance in 2012 to put in a real conservative. If we pick McCain, conservatism is DEAD on arrival. The issue of Judges won’t matter as much as everyone thinks, sinceMcCain is already lying on the border issue (he is back on the comprehensive bandwagon) so he is likely lying on this issue too (he did noo like Alito type judges and he stopped confirmation of MANY conservative federal judges along with the dems). Also, even if we get Supreme court retirees, they are all libs, to be relaced by libs, so the status quo will remain the same, but at least we have a shot at saving conservatism and not letting this country permanently fall on the track to socialism, vs. temporarily, as it would under BO. My strategy is to ensure McCain s defeated. I have decided that, and will work towards that goal. I think he is more DANGEROUS than BO; McCAin has disdain and a hatered for conservatives that is very evident, and it will only get worse if he is elected.
The sad thing is that the illegals are going to get amnesty no matter who wins, however as bas as McCain might be BO will be worse. I just can’t deal with him and his wife running the United Staes. This whole thing just bums me out.
The weather’s nice, so P’haps, I’ll put the top down, and go for a ride.
I don’t have the stomach, to sit here and put up with all this hatred, and watch people marginalize themselves.
disgusting
‘92 Bush the first, no conservative, tired old man who ran on Reagan’s coattails and caved to Dems on taxes. Clinton is fresh, young and new and an appealing change to many.
‘96 Dole, questionable conservative, tired old man who the party and he thought it his turn to run, history of bipartisan compormise with the Dems.
Voters would rather keep Clinton’s bridge building to the future than a nostalgic bridge to the past.
‘08 McCain, hasn’t acted like a conservative for years, seemingly tired old man(listening to his speeches is lulling.) history of sticking it to his party and openly siding with Dems on many significant issues. Presumbale opponent, Obama, fresh, young empty suit who is mesmerizing and appealing. Many HOPE his ideas of CHANGE is worth electing him president.
‘92 and ‘96 Perot would not have been a problem if the Republican candidates had been vibrant, passionate and had really valued uncompromising conservative principles.
Same goes for 2008, McCain and any third party candidate that may rear up.
RealIC – Yes, and Ahnold thinks we voted for him because we like RINOS. They always interpret a vote as total approval.
But at least Ahnold is telling local governments that they’re not getting all the money they want and to stop spending because it just isn’t there. I respect him for that anyway.
California is the perfect example that liberalism doesn’t work. I wish conservative candidates would point to CA as a prime example and be elequent when explaining WHY it doesn’t work. But I’m not holding my breath.
Here are my legal thoughts on how we might deal with the McCain situation: ______________________.
ElOquent… sheesh, I can spel gud.
McCain will lose in a landslide.
I’m sorry, but I feel like more and more everyday that this blog should be renamed the HuffPo.
Just take one look at Barry and the dreaded Michelle Obama. You want them with their (yes, I said their, Snobby Michelle will be a MAJOR adviser) fingers on the button?
Arnold was the last LOSE for whom I will vote….
The R party never learns…Does that make it the STUPID party?
On May 15th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, Christian Soldier said:
We have D. Feinstein bacause that stupid party in the form of the CRP slipped in a man named
M. Huffington R.(?) to run against
a man of honor ; W. Dannemeyer R–
…some long time R volunteers were so angry at the betrayal –they voted for Feinstein D–
Huffington -to them- was just the LOTE.
Huffington that name rings a bell!!!
Thank you GOP and CRP!
Arnold was the last LOTE….
Proof Reading slip.