U.S. developing radiation detectors for the Mexican border
From a writeup in the SF Chronic about the fascinating work being done at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California:
They are also experimenting with “drive-by detection” methods to determine from a distance whether a vessel is carrying a nuclear device. Similar work is being done to deploy radiation detectors on the U.S.-Mexico border.
What? I don’t understand. I thought only hard-working migrants came over the southern border to do the jobs Americans won’t do.
And yet someone thinks that we need…radiation detectors there?
It’s almost as if they thought terrorists might try to bring, say, the components of a dirty bomb into the country through that vast unfenced, unguarded flank. What a crazy notion!
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Too bad this will never see the light of day. After all, we certainly wouldn’t want to offend anyone by suggesting that some may want to use our open borders for purposes other than to “find a better life for our families……..”
Sarcasm off.
oh the irony..
Unfortunately I believe nothing short of (another) large scale attack on US soil will wake America up to the insanity we are currently hurtling towards at full speed. Just watch how the dems change their tune when it happens (when, not if), and blame anyone but themselves for letting it happen.
Day late, dollar short. More tax dollars down the tube.
If it were ever to become reality, the border guards would not be allowed to use it or even turn it on.
We cannot impede the steady stream of drugs, mexicans, muslims, suitcase nukes, and disease coming up from Mexico. That would jeperdize Jorge Bush’s dream of Norte Americano Union.
This is old news…from my local paper two years ago.
<a href=”http://www.yumasun.com/news/radiation_19881___article.html/port_detectors.
This is the place, by the way, that Bush visited a couple years ago. Where they made the big production of bringing the national guard down to build a fence.
Of course this is also the same place that you can go down to the border crossing every morning and watch American schools buses pick up Mexican children so they can attend American schools.
They’re just doing the nuclear smuggling that we “lazy Americans” won’t do.
“If it were ever to become reality, the border guards would not be allowed to use it or even turn it on.”
LOL true - and don’t forget that the emissions from the equipment might have some obscure and totally unsupported link to cancer, and thus could be harmful to illegal aliens, therefore they can only be used when there are no illegal aliens are in the vicinity, or at the very least, we have to notify the illegals in advance whenever we intend to use said equipment.
Is it crazier than believing terrorists would only be dumb enough to DRIVE over the border through a checkpoint with components….or drive somewhere else?…or carry them over?
If the threat is real enough to deploy these, then the threat is real enough to shut down the entire border so traffic ONLY goes through the checkpoints.
Border fence anyone?
Need to put up a few signs along the border:
“United States - Private Property. Trespassers will be shot”
then get some rednecks down there with their moonshine stills and let them at it..
I can hear and see it now.
“Why did Booooooosh not secure the border?”
“What did we know and when did we know it?”
“Why didn’t the fence get built.”
…and the inevitable, “it was an inside job.” …or yob, depending on your persuasion.
Dude, we are not part of Mexico, yet. It is Monterey.
[Duly edited; orthographical sovereignty restored. --See Dubya]
Why can’t we at least screen the border so that only single, hot Mexican babes are allowed through?
Hey great news! Now how about BUILDING A FENCE!
BTW, I’m not sure that this scanner just targets border crossing points. I don’t know anything about it, but it could be broader than that.
We all know that we Americans are too stupid to make anything resembling an electronic fence work.
I fail to see how publicizing this does anything to help Michelle Obama’s kids…
#3 nyc said:
Unfortunately I believe nothing short of (another) large scale attack on US soil will wake America up to the insanity we are currently hurtling towards at full speed
NY: We already had one - another will do no-thing. Unlike Pearl Harbor-the PC crowd and the MSM will quickly brush it under the rug. AFA “accusing” the guilty-can’t do that - offending those who would destroy the US is forbidden.
RE: post 12
Hallelujah!
Reading an article like this reminds me of whistling as I walk through the dark and spooky cemetary at night…
The PC crowd and the MSM will find a way to blame the Bush administration for the attack. Obama and the far left will state that if we had “talked” with these terrorists, none of this would have happened. Homeland security will be attacked for its failure. The democrats in Congress will be harping that their ideas should have been implemented to prevent such attacks. It’s an election year, and the MSM will be all over the democratic candidates and left wing congressmen for their “opinions and solutions”. Once the election is over, it will be quickly forgotten, as we move on to more important(?) matters, like “global warming”, the “environment” and, their favorite, getting rid of the tax cuts and implementing windfall profits tax.
We can protect empty desert at area 51 but we cannot protect the border? Now we find out we need this? Naw, nothing to worry about there right? Just hard working people?
When do I get my rights in Mexico? When can I go down there, buy a home, get a job and hang an American flag out front? I sure was not allowed to do ANY of that when I lived there.
Mexico protecting its Southern border as a Sovereign nation should, to keep out undesirables = Gooooooooood
America protecting its Southern border as a sovereign nation should, to keep undesirables out = Vast right wing conspiracy neo-con racists gun-hugging, Bible-thumping bitter zealots and veeeeeeeeery baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!
Wasn’t that in one of those magic books somewhere? Logic Alley? I definitely should not have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.
No need to wake up folks, the movie will come out one day soon and we can watch our internal destruction from the comfort of our very own homes. Or is that what we are seeing already?
Another major attack on the United States should bring about three events:
1. Obliteration of the country(ies) of origin of the perpetrators,
2. Obliteration of Mecca,
3. Immediate ouster of the Washington, DC, elite class by citizens who have been calling for the control of our borders and enforcement of our laws for years.
IF WE CAN PUT A MAN ON THE MOON…
Why is it that every time i read comments on immigration in any forum there are always several conservatives gleefully calling for the murder and shooting/death of immigrants and theyre families? (9,15)
i believe strongly in immigration enforcement, but there truly is a deep hatred towards these folks. Linda Chavez said it better than me.
TMoney, if the perpetrators of an attack here were British or German or French, lie so many muslim extremists are, would you destroy them. Didnt think so.
And bobjones, very classy of you to throw mexicans and muslims in with the drugs, suitcase nukes and diseases.
another attack won’t wake americans up…it will start a whole new round of the blame game.
and maybe the deep hatred of immigrants comes from the fact that the protests CLEARLY showed people who didn’t want to be Americans, rather people of (insert origin here) wanting to get the benefits American have.
i do hate these people’s attitudes.. note that ‘these people’ has no race, sex, class, or specific origin, only a common disgusting thread of entitlement.
i have no problem with people coming to America for the American dream. i damn sure have a problem with freeloaders coming because their country is incapable of providing for their own needs. and what makes this hatred worse is that these people don’t recognize the reasons their own countries can’t provide…rather they come with the same brand of Marxism that makes their own countries cesspools.
Borders…we don’t need no steeenkeeeng borders!
nyc123me said:
Like maybe 75,000 to 125,000 deaths would finally stop political correctness and affirmative action?
The way things are going in DC right now I think we should start this IMMEDIATELY!
Thutmoses, I don’t think any one here HATES illegals, it is what they DO that I hate. ” hate not the sinner, but the sin”. My aunt was Mexican, came here legally. Loved her and what she did, that is, came here legally, raised a family, taught me how to make tamales. How many Trillion now spent in Iraq to protect the earth from tyranny and we can’t build a fence that 70% of America want?
I will protect my own family, thank you. Fence or no fence, my family is and always has been MY resposibility to protect. The fence would help make my job a little easier…
In related news, the SF-Chronicle reports that several hundred US-trained Mexican security forces have defected to the drug cartels:
And, even worse:
Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5780470.html
The media does not report the seriousness of the terrorist situation on the other side of the border. I have a number of associates who well know of the problem of cartels working with terrorists - and exporting them across the border in Mexican clothes with a Mexican accent.
The intelligence community is not paranoid when it talks about terrorism in the USA and the probability of a massive strike on a US city.
I recommend to all members of congress and the administration the Clancy novel, “Teeth of the Tiger.” The attack described is entirely plausible, if not inevitable.
I’m beginning to think we may need an actual disaster to happen as a result of the open border in order to slap some people awake about the need to build the fence.
As a construction materials testing technician, I have occasion to carry a device called a moisture density relationship gauge. We refer to it simply as a “nuke gauge”. It uses a small amount of radioactive material to measure the density of soil and asphalt.
I was entering a very secure facility on the East Coast, near Williamsburg, VA one day and had this device in the back of my pickup. As I was waved through the gate, a gentleman in black BDU’s with an MP5 stepped out in front of my truck and asked if I had any nuclear materials. They detected the small amount of radioactive material in my nuke gauge, through a brick wall, the side of my pickup and the carrying case. We have radiation detection devices already in place, folks. and they work.
However I get Michelle’s point about the border.
NYC123ME, the sign should read:
“Trespassers will be shot.
Survivors will be prosecuted”
THUTMOSE18, you are exactly right. Sorry, but it was early and I mis-spoke.
I was, of course, assuming (very safe assumption, by the way) that the perpetrators would hail from some third world POS as Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. No, I would not want to roll over the UK or Germany - France is up for discussion (j/k).
As far as hating - no. I don’t hate any legal or illegal immigrant. I hate the fact that they are stealing from our own citizens. Services, jobs, education, etc. It is stealing. Period. So we can call them thieves.
You mean a border that is so porous that millions of people have made it across unquestioned and unchecked might leave open the real possibility of terrorists to smuggle in a dirty bomb or nuke? Say it isn’t so! /sarc
I agree with TMoney. I don’t hate these folks for trying to better themselves. I DO detest the Mexican government for doing a lousy job of running their economy ! They then try to guilt the U.S. into accepting people here en masse with out a whimper. B.S. folks ! If they quit skimming everything for themselves and give more to the market, these ‘aliens” wouldn’t need to be here. Where the Hell does all their oil money go ?!!?
Well, hate may be strong, but I do not like them. Come on guys, don’t let the liberal or “compassionate conservative” kow-tow you. Enough of these invaders. My compassion for them stopped about 20M invaders and 4 protests ago. Our country will buckle under the wieght of the worlds uneducated poor masses if we don’t get tough on the situation and get a backbone. 150 years ago, it was too hard and difficult to come here from around the world illegally. Now it is less than a days plane ride. Things have changed. So our attitudes must also change if we are to survive as a nation. We do not have unlimited resources. I am sick of hte invaders. I am a Texan and have witnessed first hand the negative impacts. And thutmost18, call me what you want. But my best friends growing up were hispanic. So if you are thinking of the race card throw down, think again. The masses of illiterates flooding our nation is a cnacer that must be stopped. I don’t care whare they are from.
WearyCitizen…….. I’m tired of the human flood too. I’m just sayin’ that OUR government needs to put all kinds of pressure on THEIR government to see to their own peoples needs. Then, these peasant workers wouldn’t see the need to come here and bleed OUR economy dry. It all starts at home. The corruption in Mexico is rampant.
fantastic.
so who smuggles the drugs? are you saying thats a job mexicans wouldn’t do, so only americans do it?
as far as diseases, well how do they come here? do they just magically float across the border?
and who would want to bring a nuke into this country?? I know, some crusader!! couldn’t be a muslim jihadist, could it? of course not, ‘jihad’ is all about a personal struggle with sin..sure.
did we destroy saudi arabia? didn’t think so. hard to believe us dumb amerikkkans are smart enough to know the difference between countries that support terrorism, and those that do not, but we do.
On May 19th, 2008 at 11:00 am, spo-con said:
Agreed. However, that is just one prong. Unfortunately, most of these countries have been and always will be corrupt. It is their culture. The answer lies in making it difficult to live in the US illegally. Dry up the magnets that draws and keeps them here and allow attrition to occur. No anchor babies, no jobs, no entitlements of any sort, and no hope of citizenship ever. And this must be performed without question. With no reason to come or stay the problem will be solve itself. Will take 5-10 years but it is the correct solution. With this, no need to spend $B’s on a physical fence or hire 1M more BP. It relieves the pressure on the BP patrols as they would know the folks crossing are not workers, but have nefarious reasons. Then shoot to kill after 1 warning must be the mantra. We need more boots on the border but that is to stop those who wish us harm only.
And my real point in the post was to say we need to stop allowing these libs to shut us down with their “for the children” and “compassion for fellow humans” nonsense. They can call me names. So what. Names wan’t harm me, but an invasion force of illegals will. Finally, half or more of those now crossing illegally are criminals coming here to take advantage of our relatively weak criminal sentencing and lucrative $. Not for jobs as libs wnat us to beleive. Look at the growth of violent gangs.
TMoney #22 “Why is it that every time i read comments on immigration in any forum there are always several conservatives gleefully calling for the murder and shooting/death of immigrants and theyre families? (9,15)”
Complete misquote and out of context. What a surprise. What I wrote was:”United States - Private Property. Trespassers will be shot”. This would be a warning to ANYONE who would break the law. Nowhere does it say to go after someone’s family, and Nowhere does it say to go after immigrants. ILLEGAL immigrants are a totally different thing from immigrants, and it is responses like yours that have lead me to the point I am at now - ZERO tolerance.
OOPS SORRY - that should be directed at thutmose18 #23, not TMoney #22. Sorry TMoney!
..and thutmose18 #23, if you’re trying to throw the race card down, forget it - I don’t care what race an illegal alien is, that they are an illegal alien is enough. It’s not personal, and I’m sure there are plenty who are hardworking and nice people, but there are legal avenues for immigration, and if someone choses to sneak over the border instead, they are a criminal. period.
imagine how much work a giant radioactive mexican could do! Kidding aside, I’m glad SOMEONE is thinking about the southern border.
1) Just a bunch of bigots defending their own “cracker” dirty-bomb industry.
2) We can’t keep out millions of dirty-bomb parts.
3) We’re a nation of nuclear weapons, and those that were here first just want to keep out the new nukes.
4) Some people see “dirty-bombs” as second-class nuclear weapons, therefore we will henceforth refer to them as “undocumented-weapons”.
Once the super highway is up and running from the port in Mexico to Kansas, terrorists will not have to use the illegal aliens as mules, or guides anymore.
21st century progress there folks.
#48, to funny.
Thanks Leatherneck.
I think I left out:
“We can’t break the bonds of the nuclear family.”
I think that a jalapeno dectector will work better.
Michelle,
Actually, there is a very good historical reason for radiation detectors on the Mexican border.
When I was a college student in University of Texas El-Paso in the late 1980’s, a pair of Mexican scrap dealers improperly bought bought an American X-ray machine, took it to Ciudad Juarez, and cut up the machine *to include the radioactive power source* for the scrap metal value.
The scrap was used in Mexican steel rebar.
What happened was not learned until some of that radioactive steel rebar showed up in Los Alamos and set off the radiation detectors at the front gate.
The Federal Government “Get Smart” cone of silence was dropped on the Media in El Paso, but it made the national news elsewhere.
I learned why there were all the low flying helicopters flying grid patterns over El Paso from my folks via telephone when they called asking what was going on.
Both scrap dealers got fatally large doses of radiation and the last I heard at the time was that both were hospitalized.