You go, girl: Alaska GOP Gov. will sue Bush administration over polar bear listing (bumped)
Posted 5/22 12:06am
Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin is taking on the Bush administration’s eco-pandering decision to put polar bears on the threatened species list. Via Reuters comes news that Alaska will file suit to block the move. With staunch, sane, principled conservatives like Gov. Palin and Sen. James Inhofe taking a stand, there’s hope–however dwindling–for the GOP yet.
Keep hope alive:
The state of Alaska will sue the U.S. government to stop the listing of the polar bear as a threatened species, arguing the designation will slow development in the state, Gov. Sarah Palin said on Wednesday.
Palin said the state will file a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Washington challenging U.S. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne’s decision to grant Endangered Species Act protections to the polar bear.
The Republican governor has argued that the ice-dependent polar bear, the first mammal granted Endangered Species Act listing because of global warming, does not need additional protections.
“We believe that the listing was unwarranted and that it’s unprecedented to list a currently healthy population based on uncertain climate models,” said Alaska Assistant Attorney General Steven Daugherty.
Even though Kempthorne enacted a rule aimed at precluding any new restrictions on oil and gas operations as a result of the listing, the Palin administration believes a wide variety of other development activities in Alaska would be hampered if the listing goes through, Daugherty said.
Any development or activity requiring federal permits or using federal funds would have to engage in a “consultation” process to ensure that polar bears are not harmed, he said.
That consultation, mandated by the Endangered Species Act, “is a long and time-consuming process,” he said. “It’s just, basically, a big time-and-money-waster.”
The Bush administration’s listing was an act of submission in the face of lawsuits from environmental activist groups.
As usual with acts of submission, this one didn’t satisfy the demanders. They’ve gone back to court to sue because the listing doesn’t “include steps against global warming.”
In court documents filed late Friday, the Center for Biological Diversity and other groups asked a federal judge to reject Interior Department actions that were announced last week.
Polar bears are threatened with extinction in many areas because of the melting of their sea ice habitat. The groups say greenhouse gas emissions have led to rapid melting in the Arctic.
Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne, facing a court deadline because of the groups’ earlier lawsuit, had announced Wednesday that polar bears would be listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act.
Among the steps he proposed to help them were increasing research and working with Canada to help the bears survive in the wild. But he rejected the addition of broad steps to reduce greenhouse gases, saying he would not allow the Endangered Species Act to be “misused” to regulate global climate change.
Kassie Siegel, climate director for the Center for Biological Diversity, said the administration’s proposal “violates both logic and the law” because it did not address the primary threat to polar bears. The listing of polar bears under the law is significant, she acknowledged, but the groups want them classified as endangered, a more serious category than threatened.
Joining in the court case were Greenpeace and the Natural Resources Defense Council. They announced their new federal court filing on Tuesday.
GOP presidential candidate John McCain supported the listing: “He said that he strongly supports the move and believes it should have happened ‘long ago.’”
Does he support his radical environmental friends’ latest round of lawsuits?
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Yes, yes , yes!!!! Can we talk about BBQed bear and beer again? A sled dog musher friend tells me polar bear is quite tasty as long as you stay away from the liver, toxic to humans.
Palin would make a STRONG Veep. Just saying…
Most of those bears are healthier than I am ! Yet another back door attempt to keep AMWAR closed. Ain’t foolin’ nobody.
That should pretty much eliminate her VP chances…
Here is a great site for climate change realists that see the anthropogenic global warming for what it is, a massive scam to raise taxes.
http://icecap.us/index.php
Yep.
Sigh…
But 2012 is not far away.
I think American conservatives are more endangered than a bunch of white bears.
What I want to know is how a critical atmospheric natural gas needed by plant life to survive became a pollutant?
Yeah, I think eventually this atmosphere scare will go the way of the Hole In The Ozone. (which repaired itself by the way)
Jindal-Palin ’12
OC I was about to say the same thing, grin.
Unfortunately, she’ll never be picked as a running mate, since VP candidates need to be from strategically critical electoral regions that the party is trying to win in the general election. Hate to say it but Alaska does not qualify as such a region.
People like Gov. Palin is the only reason I have any hope for the Republican party.
Isn’t this a little oxy-moronic?
If there are Polar bears in many areas, why are they even on the list?
I don’t know which is worse, the left guilting everyone about whatever, be it polar bears, children in poverty, white racism, global warming, the list goes on and on ; or their interminable march of environmental lawsuits so that the discovery of a snail darter on your land drops its value by 90%. They’re a bunch of emotionally manipulative enviro-nazis. Pardon my French. And to quote the AK asst. AG from above, the polar bears are “a currently healthy population”. As if that matters to anyone!
If someone is injured they put them on oxygen to speed the healing process.
Does a higher level of CO2 increase plant growth?
What would increased plant growth do to the overall level of CO2?
Everytime I start to lose that stomach-knot of anxiety about having to vote for McCain, as the lesser of three evils, he pulls crap like this to cinch it up tight again.
I hear you Paul while they accuse of of fear mongering over the very real threat from islamo-fascism not to mention their enviro-fascism.
and,
Sounds like a pay-off to the wacko groups. Here’s some cash, go study some Polar Bear poo or something.
So we won’t allow it’s misuse for Gorebal warming, but misusing it to improperly list an animal is OK?
Kaos it would enhance plant growth and give the vegans more to eat while I feast on polar bear.
I live in Alaska and i was convinced Palin was a RINO as she led the witch hunt against Ted Stevens and Don Young. Didn’t mind about Young because i never really liked him. This is a pleasant surprise! Go Sarah!
UUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMM, Sen. Obama was not available for comment…………
Since you guys are being all scientific and stuff, I have a theory.
Since it’s still pretty cool up here in Wisconsin, I think we may have gone too far in fighting Gorebal warming. If we keep it up, I’m sure there is a tipping-point at which we head into another ice age.
I wonder if Algore has determined what that point is?
Anyway, I think my theory has as much credibility as Gore’s does…maybe more.
Well it is proven that life does better in a warm environment than a cold one, compare Brazil to Antartica. While man survives from the arctic circle to the deserts of Africa. I am in the Bjorn Lomborg camp in that we should devote our resources into adapting to nature not trying to change what we cannot, nature’s climate.
MMM, polar bear chili will keep us warm after we reverse global warming by crippling the world economy.
aaarrrggghhh! Crazies!! Every where we turn — crazies!!!
Does anyone know what Palin is like politically other than this issue-she could be doing it just to look out for her constituents, but would otherwise go along with the Bush decision?
just asking
Their solution to “helping bears survive in the wild” will probably end up some kind of welfare program, i.e. dropping food. This will have the predictable result of causing the bears to wait to be fed instead of hunting their food, and pretty soon they’ll be unable to survive at all “in the wild”.
Doesn’t this come from the same group of people who tell us that Darwin offered the only possible explanation for the state of life on Earth today? So how is it that the people who are so convinced of evolution, are so opposed to natural selection?
I don’t trust her, but she did score some points with me on this one. And not being sexist but she is the prettiest governor in all 57 states.
Palin for President!
We could use a few polar bears here in Sacramento to eat the sea lions eating our salmon so I could eat some polar bear or salmon since they won’t let us eat the sea lions.
I like Palin a lot. Sadly, I can’t see her running for national office in the next few years. I think she’ll want something slightly less intense so that she can take care of her newborn son. Maybe 2016?
As a candidate for assembly here in the state of California I can tell you that everyone from the League of Women Voters to the Off-Road Enthusiasts Club want to know your opinion. According to On the Issues Sarah Palin is described as a moderate, populist conservative. Works for me. I think that she can be best described as someone who does not tolerate needless government. Canceled the bridge to nowhere, sold the executive jet purchased by Murkowski and demands ANWR be opened. I think the last one is important considering the gas prices we are paying. I’ll take Sarah Palin over McCain and his cohorts any day. She may not be from a big state (pun intended) but her reforms are a big plus. Let’s get someone from Alaska on the ticket. McCain from Panama Canal and Palin from Alaska. One end of the North American continent to the other.
Islandman, what district are you running in? I am a Ca conservative and will do what I can to help.
Glenn Beck made me laugh: drill for oil through the heads of polar bears
Shows what a woos Bush is. Then again what else can a rich spoilt brat be other than a coward, timid, corrupt sell-out. Oh sorry.. did I say “bad” about a “sitting president” who just gave uranium to his extended Jihadi family in Riyadh, for a stiff oil-barrel price?
Dhimmi is not reserved for the religion of perpetual out-rage-is it?!
Surrender is also the MO for the religion of the greens-ie:the environmental wachos!
…for the appeasement of the religion of the greens…
Doofus may say he is not going to “misuse” the ESL, but it really isn’t his choice.
Congress wrote the standards, and the Federal courts connected the dots.
If the polar bear is a listed Endangered Species, then …
the courts have the authority to mandate whatever it takes.
shut down natural gas imports,
Shut down oil imports,
shut down natural gas distribution,
Shut down oil refineries,
shut down natural gas direct from well use.
If everyone loses their jobs,
If every farm goes unharvested,
If everyone dies,
It is immaterial to the nonexistent limitations on the Federally issued powers within the Endangered Species Protection Act.
Gov. Palin seems like the type we Rep. conservatives could support.
Would her record on true conservative issues stand her in good stead?
So I’ve been thinking… the lefties don’t like preemptive strikes to keep our country from being nuked. As in when the other Hussein told us he was working on getting nukes to wipe us and Israel off the map, or when Iran threatens to do so as well… and IS working to get the nukes to do it.
But these same lefties do like preemptive strikes just in case, someday, maybe Polar Bears might dwindle because ice caps might melt and just maybe that might mean Polar Bears might become endangered some day maybe in the future.
Am I close?
If the lawsuit works, the Left will bail on the polar bears and work to list the REAL mammals that are threatened by AGW, cute little puppies and kittens.
In the meantime, I’m thinking of starting a polar bear farm. It will be in ANWAR, so that we can at least get some use out of that piece of tundra. If people like eating polar bear, I’ll breed em and breed em until there are polar bears as far as the eye can see. And I’ll advertise them to eco-friendly grocers like Whole Foods, marketing how if you buy one polar bear to feed your family it takes the place of one cow, whose farts cause far more global warming than a polar bear’s fart. More polar bears, less cow fart pollution, ANWAR gets used productively, and I make millions so that I may one day take over the world! Hmmm…I bet their skins make nice coats or home insulation too…
Well, here we go again. Back in the 1930s, there were newsreels alarming the country that polar bears were on the way out…from global warming. They have survived very nicely through cooling and massive warming through the 1000s of years. This is all politics and an environmental push to ban all search for oil and natural resources. When these wackos park their private jets and SUVs and go back to horse and buggies, then, maybe, I’ll pay attention to them. Keep it up, Palin.
I can only wonder at the mental acumen of someone who will believe that a computer model, which cannot predict the weather with 100% accuracy over a seven day period, can predict the demise of a species over a twenty or thirty year period – much less a millenium.
How very useful, they are.
Good luck on the suit, Governor! I never had polar bear steak, but I’m willing to give it a shot.
I like it. We have all complained about a lack of conservative leadership within the GOP. I have no clue about the rest of Gov Palin’s record, but on this issue she is showing good conservative leadership.
It’s also nice to see Sen. Inhofe taking the principled position here.
So what government agency do I apply to for my permit to breathe?
Now that they have added the brief 20 year period of global cooling to the dialog, I will not live long enough to see the end of this democracy-destroying hype. I was hoping to see this myth destroyed in my lifetime, but because of the dumbing down of science, combined with left wing hysteria, I will be long dead before sanity returns.
Yes she is and that is about as good a political endorsement as I have seen this cycle.
Why our President thinks he can appear “reasonable” to the Left with these continuous accommodations I can not fathom. They hate him, they hate us and they hate our country. Mr. Bush please stop it!
As far as having a Conservative on Senator McCain’s ticket the only way that would help is if we could get President McCain to try some of that Toxic Polar Bear liver.
Hot house owners use CO2 to ripen tomatoes. They’re not fit to eat, they’re tasteless and papery, but they look nice on the grocery shelves in all their pale pinkness.
Geez!
McCain is such a tool for the left. Obviously, he is determined to talk me out of voting for him. No matter how much I try to convince myself he is the lesser of the evils and I should vote for him, he keeps opening his yap and making me take two steps back on my progress for every one I was able to go forward. *sigh*
And therein lies the goal of the left and all the enviro-nuts.
It seems that others might agree with you on that, tbear, at least the first 50 of them, anyhow.
It would seem others are interested in Palin being on the GOP ticket.
I don’t think it will ever happen. If she is a conservative, McCain would never have it. I can’t seem him puttin anyone on there that would out shine him. He just seems to have too big of an ego. But, that is just MHO.
Bush didn’t make a left turn in Alaska. He was forced by court orders to follow the law, which mandated calling polar bears endangered. Palin’s beef is not with Bush, it’s with the Endangered Species Act.
Is she asking the court to overturn the will of Congress and (therefore, given our republican form of government) of the people? Do you really want activist judges like that?
Much better.
I can’t agree with that angle, lgm. This wasn’t some huge outcry by the people of Alaska to have this done. It was done by a small special interest groups looking to serve their own agenda. Had this been some huge issue, we’d have heard something about it before it went through, but…yeah, not so much.
And by extension, her beef (i think) is with Bush, letting this ridiculous piece of legislation go into effect anyway. The same discussion we had about the population of polar bears (being *visually* verified as healthy by, if nothing else, the locals but also by other sources) doesnt warrent the “threatened” label anyway. The whole piece of legislation is just one large sham.
Whoot whoot!!! Go Palin and InHofe! This little story made my day. Glad there are some not afraid to stand up against the Washington elite.
UHG How did I post after lgm and not get my shot in.
BWWWAAAAAAHHHAAAAAA What does that mean?
You would say something as stupid as this. The ruling was made in error. If a ruling is made in error (no evidence to support a finding), a judge can overturn the ruling. She is right to go after the ruling as there is ample evidence of growing populations of polar bear.
Activist judges overturn the will of the people like in Californication where 4 people overturned the will of the people and their vote. They are ALWAYS LIBERAL HACKS much like yourself! Idiot.
Sounds to me that William Shakespeare guy was right when he wrote a line about killing all the lawyers. This country needs Tort reform now! Putting an end to these frivolous lawsuits every damn time the left can’t get their way in the ballot box or through legislation has got to stop gumming up the Federal court system. Actually it would be a great idea to close all the law schools in this country for about 10 years, we have too many useless law school graduates running around this country to the point many can’t find a job as a lawyer (thank God).
The World Wildlife Fund (WWF) was crying on my TV last night about needing money to save the endangered Polar Bears due to Gorebal Warming. I immediately turned off the sound and changed channels until the show I was watching came back on. I always thought the WWF had something to do with professional wrestling. That’s right it did until the animal rights group sued over their use of the 3 letters. With the price of oil jumping over $10 per barrel this week I could give a damn about the growing Polar Bear population, which it has over the past 40 years. I keep hearing very good things about the Governor of Alaska when she was mentioned as a possible VP pick for the GOP. I wish the GOP had more like her and Senator Inhofe willing to fight for our rights before we have to fight for them on the battlefield.
Consider this along with the 15-1 ruling by the Bay Area Air Quality Management District wanting to slap a fee onto manufacturing facilities see link: http://www.nbc11.com/news/16349069/detail.html This should shut down the oil refinery in Benicia and if you think the price of gas is bad in the People’s Republic of Kalifornia now brace for impact should these idiots get their way. Hearing the $5 spike in oil overnight when I turned on Fox News this morning put me in a very foul mood this morning. I’m so glad Congress has finally taken action with this issue by voting to sue OPEC over their prices. Don’t drill the ocean of oil this country is sitting on you idiots that would harm the environment.
/Rant Off
On-my-soap-box said (#60):
LLAAAAWWWWOOOOOUUUHH I’m trying to keep the thread on topic. Were I to say we are a democracy, you certainly would jump in to call me a moron for not knowing we’re a republic.
Don’t you contradict yourself with the two above paragraphs? Who is issuing the court orders? Judges perhaps? Activist judges
Since when are we usurping state’s rights?
How is it that the great defenders of Darwinism and evolution such as yourself and these other liberals are not allowing the rule of the survival of the fittest? Hypocrisy, anyone?
Section 4 of the Endangered Species Act:
So there are both economic and scientific fact stipulations that clearly have not been met. Stable and/or increasing populations of bears do not constitute a march to extinction to anyone not drinking the GoreAid.
I think the economic stipulations have been met, inasmuch as the country is going to tank unless we drill, or threaten to drill, for our own oil and gas, both in that tiny part of ANWR and off our coasts.
And if we don’t, others will. Seriously, if, excuse me, when China is drilling off our coast in Cuban waters, do you think they are going to put any more consideration into environmental concerns than they do for lead paint in children’s toys?
So, lgm, which would you rather have, the inevitable drilling for gas and oil by entities that you can influence, or those you cannot?
I don’t see you standing up to tanks in Tiananman Square…
Wacko environmentalists have cost more lives in the world than all of the wars in our country!!
Liberals, like you, haven’t had any problem with the concept of “activist judges”, until it comes to a ruling on something that you don’t want.
I believe Soap pointed out such a recent case to illustrate the point above…
But, the earlier frivolous lawsuit brought by the eco-nuts resulted in a ruling based on loose theory. And, the governor’s suit could get the record set back the way it should be.
It would be incredable to have an actual court case, where BOTH sides of the Debate get to make the case….instead of the Liberal side getting to filibuster the who argument.
Put Al “mega-carbon butt print” Gore on the witness stand and have to answer questions sinde he “Knows ALL the Facts”….(Not that being under oath means anything to Liberals, “Definition of “”Is”" is..”)
Wow. Palin is like Bobby Jindal.
Waaayyyy too good for McCain.
I disagree. Look at the selection of Cheney in 2000. I believe that Wyoming casts the same number of votes in the Electoral College as does Alaska.
Throwing down the BS card on that little snide remark. Beside, I call you an idiot not a moron. Sounds to me like you have some self loathing going on there pal.
You were making a feeble attempt to make this a Dimocrap/Republican issue and tossed in “activist judges” just to show your ignorance. Try again.
Bravo! The estimate of deaths due to malaria is about 80 million because a few people had to do away with DDT which almost eradicated the mosquito born disease. Of course, enviro-idiots are into reducing human population so, it worked out for them real well.
If you think it is bad for polar bears here, we really need to do something about the population on Mars.
/sarc
Anyway we can bombard Mc Cain’s office to comment his support of this insane listing?
LGM already have them.. save they mandate leftist policies..
If this issue isn’t a true conservative issue, I don’t know what could be. Isn’t the conservative view on global warming the following?
1) It’s a hoax largely perpetrated by some who would like to make a quick buck (Algore) and others who believe that we should be returned to the stone age (some environmentalists).
2) Global warming as it has been observed is scientifically best explained by natural cycles in the sun, something we cannot control.
3) Again, looking at the matter scientifically, global warming stopped in 1998, has been on a slow but steady decline since, and has been accelerating that decline in its past year.
Go Sarah Palin. You’re the future of this country. It’s a shame you have to be from a small state in terms of electoral votes.
Why are we putting an animal on the Threatened list, when in fact their population has actually increased over the past several decades?
I’m getting more and more curious about Gov. Palin.
Does anyone know what her platform or fundamental beliefs are?
Yes we can and perhaps should. But that arrogant jerk doesn’t listen to mere folks. The Senator really believes his every hunch is Inspired. Inspired by what I do not know, but as I said he is an arrogant jerk. We sure couldn’t get him to move on amnesty which I believe will cost us seats in both houses. Millions WILL sit on there votes. It sure happened in 1992.
We need to prepare for Jimmie Carter’s Second term. He is three for three.
Of course McPainintheass supports them after all his hero is Teddy Roosevelt, of course only those hero parts of Teddy Roosevelt’s that Juan has cherry picked to follow: environmentalist.
I would just love it if the Govenor would sue the Federal Government for the right to drill, now that would make me do the woo hoo dance! One can dream..
To all those people who are calling for Palin as a VP – STFU you morons. She is the right person in the right post at the right time. We can not afford to have a linguinnie spined Governor of Alaska at this juncture in history.
As for her other stands – she wants to open ANWR for drilling. She is in favor of offshore drilling – and that makes Alaska the only state in the whole damn country with even a hope of domestic oil exploration.
I haven’t seen all the fifty governors but this one is better looking then Arnold, and that blind guy in New York.
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin – official website.
Make her Depudy to the Rino in chief? Are you serious?
She might just single handedly save us all from Algore and the Saudi oil ticks, and you want to put her in the most useless political post in the country?
CHEESUS K F’n RICE how stupid can you be.
Are you not paying attention?
Do you think this is a game?
You could but I’m sure you wouldn’t get any McLame points from it…so it would be a waste of time.
I believe the activist judges comment by LGM was sarcasm against the old republican mantra of “Don’t elect a democrat because they will appoint judges who will legislate from the bench of the supreme court.” Kinda like turning conservative’s own words against them.
Not to hijack the thread, but I actually heard Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee mention approval for off-shore drilling this morning on C-SPAN. I didn’t know I could spew coffee that far.
paper tiger, you are right. also, about the jindal, please he has only been governor not even 6 months. come on folks, we need them in these positions leading the states. how can you say to obama you are too inexperienced and then have sitting next to you a 6 month Governor or a 2 year Governor (Crist)?
Come on folks, we need strong conservative Governors, especially in Alaska. Jindal is changing Louisiana, and that is a good thing. Let him complete the job he was elected to fulfull. There are other more qualified true conservatives out there for McPain to pick, we can only hope he makes a decent choice from a true conservative. (One can dream?)
Even that other great liberal/socialist/communist, Stalin, onlhy killed about 20-30 million.
I guess the greens outdo the reds in the ability to discount the value of human life…
If you can’t even understand Soap Box’s question, how can you possibly comprehend the intricasies of climate or sort out the convoluted reasoning of “believers?”
If she did, you can be sure that she is being clubbed like a baby seal (figuratively anyway) by the envirowhackos as we speak.
What always gets me is the groups that want to save the (insert animal name here)tend to be believers of evolution. This to me seems contradictory seeing as survival of the fitest is one of evolutions core beliefs? So by saving species that can not evolve and survive are they not violating their own theories?
I know you aren’t holding your breath waiting on that to happen, right?
That is logic, TS. Liberals don’t do well with logic.
Romans 1:25: “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the CREATOR, who is blessed for ever. Amen. “
Gov. Palin for President 2012.
I like what I have been able to find on her, so far. Probably a lot more to read. But, she is pro-life, pro-gun and doesn’t mind taking the Bush Administration to task for appeasment of the left-nuts.
But, like others have pointed out, she is probably in the right place at the right time, for now, as governor. Perhaps she can help get oil exploration and production opened up and working in ANWAR.
As long as it feels right.
WOW!!!! A Republican with CAJONES!!! And look it’s a LADY named SARAH PALIN, way to go SARAH!!! A Republican who gets it right. What a unique IDEA!!!
Here’s a 25 year old pic of Gov Palin. Men are so shallow. Googling for cheesecake images. I’m so embarrassed!
I don’t think she (age 44) has the experience for national executive office. I might even say the same for Bobby Jindal (age 37 next month). That’s certainly true of Barack Obama (age 47 this August). Even Dan Quayle (age 41 when he became VP) had much more experience than any of these three, and he was nearly laughed out of the office.
Paul,
I would submit, just for thought, that maybe what we need are some younger people in there. People who arent jaded from being in the system so long, and people with fresh ideas and approaches, and who arent entrenched in the “politics as usual” crowd.
I’m not specifically saying her, or Jindal (while i admit i’d love to see them both, i’m just using this as an example), maybe its time the younger people stood up and took this type of roll.
States sue the federal govt. all time. Do I as a private citizen have the ability to sue Congress, The Potus or federal govt. in general?
We need a change, and the population as a whole is so stupid, we keep on electing the same ol’ idiots. So we have to rule out getting change by elections.
What other options do we have?
Paul and abstract – thats why I posted
Jindal-Palin ’12
4 years from now they will both be formidable candidates, with broad appeal outside of their regions, with a proven record in each of their states. Both of them will be known as reformers, tough on corruption, and hopefully by then they will have a proven conservative record to draw on in all the important areas of the GOP: defense (including the border), social, governmental (taxes, smaller cleaner govt), and business.
Perfect to replace a disastrous Obama administration, or a burned out failed McCain administration.
And if they have to wait till 2016, then they will be all the more formidable, assuming they continue to develop themselves as complete conservatives.
fraks: Term Limits.
No more permanent political class.
4 terms in the house, 2 terms in the senate. 20 total.
or, 6 house 3 senate, 30 max.
Think of it.
Kennedy would have been finished off a while back. Trent Lott would have had to learn to buy himself meals and move back to Mississippi a decade ago.
Pelosi would not be there, nor would GOP weaklings.
Politicians, like diapers, MUST be changed regularly.
At least inside the beltway!
Your post reminds me of one of my favorite Ronald Reagan quotes, OC…
“Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.“
The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 05/22/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.
This is a name that’s been floated for VP.
Let’s just put her on the top of the ticket … (if the rest of her ideas stack up)
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com