Congressman admits Dems “stretched the facts” about stopping the war to get elected
Headline says it all:
As Jeff Emanuel notes, there’s an extra little dollop of condescension to leaven all that honesty:
“Now anybody was a good student of Government,” said Kanjorski, “would know that wasn’t true [that they "could stop the war"].” Fortunately for those Democrats who campaigned, and were elected, based on their war-ending promises, their hardcore supporters, their activists, and their base of voters, are all made up of people who are, by Mr. Kanjorski’s reckoning, very, very poor students of Government.
But all of that was justified to these incumbents and first-time candidates. Taking advantage of poor, uneducated rubes? Abusing trust, and leaving those who offered it stranded along the way? All acceptable — because, again by Mr. Kanjorski’s own description, of “the temptation to want to win back the Congress.”
As Krusty the Klown once remarked, “Oh crap, I said the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud!”
H/T to Ace.
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Maybe the DNC, DLC, etc. are giving out “points” too? Do you think that is where McCain got the idea? Hmmmm?
Can we make it retroactive, Brian? I think there are quite a few representatives and senators that should have to atone for their wasteful years in government.
If you ignore him, he might go away.
Might.
And - maybe he is trying tp accomplish “points” that he’s collecting in the hopes that he might get enough DNC points to be redeemed for an 8×10 glossy signed photo of Howard Dean with little red hearts all along the frame.
Now as too the article:
Does this really surprise anyone with half a brain? Politcians say whatever they have to to get elected. ” i was for it before i was against it”. I see nothing in changing your mind but to do it for political reasons just shows how shallow and self serving these elected knotheads are.
If you think about this we use to elect common people and revere them to a level of kings and queens. We are now electing people who act and think they are kings and queens who try to convince us they are just as common as the rest of us.
I love how LGM is doing NOTHING to disprove the statement about Dems being poor students in government.
Time and time again, the Left has shown, in word and deed, that they do not care about the lies they are told…they only believe that the ends justify the means…regardless of what the means are or who they hurt.
I can tell you what LGM thinks she’s accomplishing.
Lgm is lonely. No one will listen to her. “Acting out” here gives her attention. Like most libs, LGM doesn’t have a clue, but she is angry. Angry because she doesn’t fit in. So she lashes out at those who do. Many libs believe being non-conformist is in some way strong and gallant. It isn’t.
Fireman, LIBS lie, because the truth is not on their side. They believe that their opinion is equal to fact.
I was running around and John Edwards took time to answer this to me…
“Well you see…there are 2, COUNT THEM ONE FIVE SEVEN…errr…TWO! Americas! Them being together isnt possible.”
Film at 11.
You know, it must be so hard for LGM - visiting a site he hates, reading comments from conservatives he can’t stand. It must be very stressful as he tries to reach his goals in DNC points. I feel sorry for him. Maybe, next time he makes an off-topic comment, we can say something to him to make him feel better. Not answering his questions, of course, but asking him how many more posts he needs to make before he can redeem his points for his signed Howard Dean glossy photo with the little hearts along the frame. It would free up the page from his many attempts to drive the topic from what it’s supposed to be - to whatever new topic he’s attempting to get us to talk about. It would also be a great gesture to him to let him know we care, because he must really want that Howard Dean photo to put beside the nightstand.
I think that he would like that.
WOW!
The SS being in dire straights is a Republican lie?
Am I the only one here that remembers “The lock Box”? Am I the only one here that recalls Gore and other Dems screaming doom and gloom 8+ years ago about how SS was going to be bankrupt by…let me see…I think it was sometime next week…unless we elected Algore and he and he alone would save us from ourselves?
Please…I beg you…correct me if I am mistaken, but I seem to recall that the entire SS being vaporized was all a completely Democrat issue, which is what brought about Bush’s desire to privatize part of it so that we could actually have control over OUR money.
Then again, LGM probably has no idea just which side it was that decided “borrowing” money out of the SS coffer was a great idea in the first place…let alone giving said SS benefits to people who never put into it in the first place was.
It’s not so much that the picture is of HD…but it is of HD in a Cheetah Thong that makes it worth his while.
For demonstration purposes, which also made a good read for lunch for a minute, how about some Obamalamadingdong’s errors of speech?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/23/trail-of-tall-tales-barack-obama/
That’s like 10,000 points. he’s gonna have to post ALOT more for that one.
There’s one of Margaret Thatcher in the same thong posing with HD. That has a 250,000 point total. Wonder if caligula is working on that one?
Their lips were moving so it follows they were lying.
LGM - Just as there is no Santa Claus, there is no SS Trust Fund or black box. Those are the boogey “straw” men that the liberals use every election in an attempt to scare little old ladies into thinking that their social security checks are going to disappear.
Social Security is one big chain letter. You just have to hope your name gets to the top of the list so you too can receive a check each month before it goes broke because of the drain placed on it because of social programs the Democrats instituted as part of the Social Security program.
It’s ever more difficult to be a good student of government when are schools are so crappy. Oh, I get it now! That’s what these crackpot politicians want - a dump, gullible electorate so they can keep their jobs while moving us towards a nanny state.
See? I told you.
Bingo.
RetFireman
After being started in 1935 the Social Security fund was a separate standalone trust from 1939 to 1968 … LBJ changed that and included it as part of the General Budget starting in fiscal year 1969 … and the Congress has basically borrowed every cent from it every year since … so in effect it is now nothing but special issue bonds which are basically IOUs from Congress to the trust fund …
Johnson - corruption, war monger
Carter - incompetent stooge of the terrorists and communists
People can bag on W all they want but anyone who has lived around 60 years or more can tell you, these two turds make George look pretty good. And you have to be pretty low to make W look good.
Democrats play the poor, the ignorant, and the inexperienced like a guitar. The subject of this thread is just stating the obvious.
Final lie of the day: voter fraud is a serious problem.
And of course, democrats arent involved in that in MUCH greater quantities than anyone else.
abstractmind
agree … does the name ACORN come to mind?
Trolling for more points, huh?
Dang! You beat me to it, DL!
ACORN…errr, what is that?
/sarc
Sorry, I was channeling some democratic talking points.
abstractmind
I’d like to channel some of them for sure … as in the English Channel … no canoe, no paddle, no lifevest …
Or the Bungo Channel
I have no doubt that Democrats are telling the truth about lying to get elected, liberals love to gloat about having lied to achieve their ends.
Most ethical bunch of bottom feeders evah.
I wonder if McCain would sign the fairness doctrine to help liberals achieve their ultimate goal of treating all of us like mushrooms?
The candidates seem to be having a contest of who can alienate their base the fastest.
Who’s winning?
Joy
No one … they’re all a bunch of losers
There has been no evidence for that.
They would have to pry his lips from Dean’s hindquarters to give it to him…
Final lie of the day:
LGM answers the questions posed to him and always in an insightful, well thought out and researched way and in a timely manner.
He also is not some high school student hopped up on what his pony-tailed Drama instructor fed him about the “EVIL REPUBLICANS and their quest to take over the world one brown person at a time.
Final lie of the day: voter fraud is a serious problem.
————
Because asking people to vote only once under only one id is such a terriable thing…
I review the election history of Christine Gregoire (D-WA) and I send howls of derisive electronic laughter at you.
Of course, there is soldier and black disenfranchisement, selective Gore recounts, boxes of “suddenly found” votes when necessary, the voting dead, motor voter fraud, illegal alien fraud etc., etc., etc.
Strangely enough, all to the benefit of Democrats.
All t
Final lie of the day:
We pray lgm never gets banned.
Would LGM stop driving that SUV?? Its warming jupiter!!!
Final lie of the day Hillary Rodham has nice legs.
RetFireman said:
For you, anything is possible. What is your question?
They have already been asked, genius.
sonodfly # 10 said: “I want a none of the above box. The theory is if the none of the above box wins the election, you have to start again and the current candidates can’t run.”
How long would it take for a politico to change his name to “none of the above” & win in a landslide.
Like he would ever have an answer.
I’m not RetFireman, but as someone who claims to be a mathematician, do you know how to read an actuarial table?
If you do, you wouldn’t comment as you did about SS.
ezupirate75,
You are probably correct… sigh…
RetFireman, On-my-soap-box, I’m calling your bluff. Can’t you remember any of those questions?
Member-VRWC: I don’t claim to be anything anymore. It takes more than an actuarial table (likelihood of death as a function of age) to know how social security is doing. The social security trust fund has trustees who provide regular reports.
Calling our bluff? Scroll up and find them. Bluff? BWAHHAAAA
Here is a question for you. Are you really as stupid as you make yourself out to be or do you practice?
P.S. I see, once again, when asked to pay tribute to someone going through a tragedy, you can’t bring yourself to stop by and do it. That makes you worm food in our books.
Since there aren’t any coherent questions in this thread from RetFireman or On-my-soap-box, I’ll field one from Little Ma (#48):
Answer: I hope not. It would make you an out of touch elitist if your were a Democrat.
I would be happy to have a president who knows Latin, or one who knows that Barack and Baruch (the first names of a US candidate and Israel’s Prime Minister) are cognates that both mean “blessed”.
It’s great that you’re defending your old pal Saddam. You’d probably rather give him flowers for Memorial Weekend than a fallen USA solider that gave you the right to sound off that big ugly mouth of yours.
Logic of LGM: If a democrat does something stupid, he must have a twin republican who does the same. Let’s wait and see you guys, because Olbermann will break the story any second now…
Ha ha.
You know LGM, I’m NOT a republican, but none of them are going to say there are 9-11 links to Saddam. Because it’s simply not true. We all know that now, so just admit it. Your precious dems are just as responsible for this war.
Nuking us? Saddam had chemical weapons, not nuclear ones!
RE: The original post
Why would anyone expect any better from the democrats?
Wasn’t it the dems ideological soulmate, Karl Marx, who believed strongly that “the end justifies the means”?
A politician lie??!!!!
Imagine that!
I’d be happy to see a president who didn’t give a flying fig but put the U.S. first instead of trying to appease our enemies, relying on our world famous ingenuity and technical expertise to solve the world’s problems through R&D vs. some appointed party hacks in black robes.
I rather have a president that actually studied the issues surrounding so called global warming rather than immersing himself in a long deal language to impress the likes of lgm.
And I am still, oh so patiently waiting for the omniscient lgm to address the questions and answers I put to him in #76, particularly those of Social “security.”
Tick, tick, tick…
Bueller? Bueller? lgm? lgm?
Gutless…
Maybe you have the wrong number?
Silkyinfamous said (#76):
It’s been known to happen. “Uniter, not divider”, “humbler foreign policy”
You have to start before you can stop.
Dimsdale said (#67):
If you’re asking whether we’re making progress in Iraq — maybe in some areas. It’s hard to tell.
If you’re asking whether progress in Iraq would bother me — it wouldn’t.
Pardon me. Please refer to #67, 70, 80, 135, 152.
I think it would, judging by your litany of commentaries. As for the progress being “hard to tell,” it would be so only if you immersed yourself in the types of sources that you typically cite. A good scientist (does this include mathematicians?) review all the date before coming to a conclusion. You might find that useful in your “global warming” commentaries.
As for my “wandering rand (sic),” a review of my retort (#67) to your statement (reproduced in #67) seems particularly apropos in response to you point. Was it “wandering” simply because you didn’t agree or couldn’t counter argue, or did it just give you a way to snip it?
Back to the point: what about the solvency of Social Security and the references I gave you (#80)? Do you need further clarification? Please tell me how great SS is, about all of that money just sitting in the “trust fund” (a misnomer if there ever was one; doesn’t a fund have to have money in it?), and that there will be anything returned to me after my involuntary contributions when, or if, I retire.
I am especially interested in your definition of “a little money” in the following quote (your #60): “the Social Security Trust fund is projected to last just fine form many years and need a little more money to keep it going as far as we can do projections.”
And you actually wonder why Medicare is in bad shape? (Hint: run by the same group of gangsters)
I will argue that that are links - they’re not the type of links you might think - but there are definitely links which I’d be happy to explain.
And by explain, I mean that I will simply remind you of current events which make perfect sense when linked.
Well, I know that I am ready to throw out all the rascals! I truly can’t see voting for an incumbent unless he/she is exceptional (in a positive sense).
I shudder to think of where this country is headed.
Bob in Topeka,
Speaking of pols lying to get into office, how in the heck did Nancy Boyda win her house seat? I know her and her husband. Ok people but she is not what I would look for in a representative. I know that I have been away from there for a while but Nancy Boyda?
I reiterate:
That’s signature seagull: crap everywhere then leave, because they can’t clean up after themselves.