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	<title>Comments on: Congressman admits Dems &#8220;stretched the facts&#8221; about stopping the war to get elected</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; More foot-in-mouth from Rep. Kanjorski (D-Uuuuuuh)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; More foot-in-mouth from Rep. Kanjorski (D-Uuuuuuh)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you shouldn&#8217;t donate to.* Kanjorski, most recently seen admitting that Dems lied &#8220;stretched the facts&#8221; about the war, is a gold mine of embarrassing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you shouldn&#8217;t donate to.* Kanjorski, most recently seen admitting that Dems lied &#8220;stretched the facts&#8221; about the war, is a gold mine of embarrassing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: If Obama could talk to the Iranians: &#171; Riggword Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>If Obama could talk to the Iranians: &#171; Riggword Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From Michelle Malkin: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 01:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s signature seagull: crap everywhere then leave, because they can&#039;t clean up after themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s signature seagull: crap everywhere then leave, because they can&#8217;t clean up after themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 12:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reiterate: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;On May 24th, 2008 at 8:23 am, Dimsdale said:

Bueller? Bueller? lgm? lgm?

Gutless…
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reiterate: </p>
<blockquote><p>On May 24th, 2008 at 8:23 am, Dimsdale said:</p>
<p>Bueller? Bueller? lgm? lgm?</p>
<p>Gutless…
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 12:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob in Topeka,

Speaking of pols lying to get into office, how in the heck did Nancy Boyda win her house seat?  I know her and her husband.  Ok people but she is not what I would look for in a representative.  I know that I have been away from there for a while but Nancy Boyda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob in Topeka,</p>
<p>Speaking of pols lying to get into office, how in the heck did Nancy Boyda win her house seat?  I know her and her husband.  Ok people but she is not what I would look for in a representative.  I know that I have been away from there for a while but Nancy Boyda?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob in Topeka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob in Topeka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 02:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I know that I am ready to throw out all the rascals!  I truly can&#039;t see voting for an incumbent unless he/she is exceptional (in a positive sense).
I shudder to think of where this country is headed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I know that I am ready to throw out all the rascals!  I truly can&#8217;t see voting for an incumbent unless he/she is exceptional (in a positive sense).<br />
I shudder to think of where this country is headed.</p>
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		<title>By: Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Dem Congressman Admits that Dems Lied About Stopping the War in Iraq to Win Congress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webloggin - Blog Archive &#187; Dem Congressman Admits that Dems Lied About Stopping the War in Iraq to Win Congress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See Also: Democrat=Socialist, McCain Blogs, Pirates Cove, Jo&#8217;s Cafe, Liberty Pundit, Cao&#8217;s Blog, Michelle Malkin [...]</description>
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		<title>By: corkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>corkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On May 23rd, 2008 at 7:11 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

...I’m NOT a republican, but none of them are going to say there are 9-11 links to Saddam. Because it’s simply not true. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I will argue that that are links - they&#039;re not the type of links you might think - but there are definitely links which I&#039;d be happy to explain.

And by explain, I mean that I will simply remind you of current events which make perfect sense when linked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On May 23rd, 2008 at 7:11 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:</p>
<p>&#8230;I’m NOT a republican, but none of them are going to say there are 9-11 links to Saddam. Because it’s simply not true. </p></blockquote>
<p>I will argue that that are links &#8211; they&#8217;re not the type of links you might think &#8211; but there are definitely links which I&#8217;d be happy to explain.</p>
<p>And by explain, I mean that I will simply remind you of current events which make perfect sense when linked.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon me. Please refer to #67, 70, 80, 135, 152.

 &lt;blockquote&gt;On May 24th, 2008 at 9:57 am, lgm said:

Dimsdale said (#67):

    &lt;blockquote&gt;(wandering rand removed…) It just eats away at your soul (unless you are an atheist of course) that significant progress is being made in that country, isn’t it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you’re asking whether we’re making progress in Iraq — maybe in some areas. It’s hard to tell.

If you’re asking whether progress in Iraq would bother me — it wouldn’t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it would, judging by your litany of commentaries.  As for the progress being &quot;hard to tell,&quot; it would be so only if you immersed yourself in the types of sources that you typically cite.  A good scientist (does this include mathematicians?) review all the date before coming to a conclusion.  You might find that useful in your &quot;global warming&quot; commentaries.

As for my &quot;wandering rand (sic),&quot; a review of my retort (#67) to your statement (reproduced in #67) seems particularly apropos in response to you point.  Was it &quot;wandering&quot; simply because you didn&#039;t agree or couldn&#039;t counter argue, or did it just give you a way to snip it?

Back to the point: what about the solvency of Social Security and the references I gave you (#80)?  Do you need further clarification?  Please tell me how great SS is, about all of that money just sitting in the &quot;trust fund&quot; (a misnomer if there ever was one; doesn&#039;t a fund have to have money in it?), and that there will be anything returned to me after my involuntary contributions when, or if, I retire.

I am especially interested in your definition of &quot;a little money&quot; in the following quote (your #60): &quot;the Social Security Trust fund is projected to last just fine form many years and need a &lt;em&gt;little more money&lt;/em&gt; to keep it going as far as we can do projections.&quot;

And you actually wonder why Medicare is in bad shape?  (Hint: run by the same group of gangsters)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me. Please refer to #67, 70, 80, 135, 152.</p>
<blockquote><p>On May 24th, 2008 at 9:57 am, lgm said:</p>
<p>Dimsdale said (#67):</p>
<blockquote><p>(wandering rand removed…) It just eats away at your soul (unless you are an atheist of course) that significant progress is being made in that country, isn’t it?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you’re asking whether we’re making progress in Iraq — maybe in some areas. It’s hard to tell.</p>
<p>If you’re asking whether progress in Iraq would bother me — it wouldn’t.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it would, judging by your litany of commentaries.  As for the progress being &#8220;hard to tell,&#8221; it would be so only if you immersed yourself in the types of sources that you typically cite.  A good scientist (does this include mathematicians?) review all the date before coming to a conclusion.  You might find that useful in your &#8220;global warming&#8221; commentaries.</p>
<p>As for my &#8220;wandering rand (sic),&#8221; a review of my retort (#67) to your statement (reproduced in #67) seems particularly apropos in response to you point.  Was it &#8220;wandering&#8221; simply because you didn&#8217;t agree or couldn&#8217;t counter argue, or did it just give you a way to snip it?</p>
<p>Back to the point: what about the solvency of Social Security and the references I gave you (#80)?  Do you need further clarification?  Please tell me how great SS is, about all of that money just sitting in the &#8220;trust fund&#8221; (a misnomer if there ever was one; doesn&#8217;t a fund have to have money in it?), and that there will be anything returned to me after my involuntary contributions when, or if, I retire.</p>
<p>I am especially interested in your definition of &#8220;a little money&#8221; in the following quote (your #60): &#8220;the Social Security Trust fund is projected to last just fine form many years and need a <em>little more money</em> to keep it going as far as we can do projections.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you actually wonder why Medicare is in bad shape?  (Hint: run by the same group of gangsters)</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dimsdale&lt;/strong&gt; said (#67):

 

&lt;blockquote&gt; (&lt;em&gt;wandering rand removed&lt;/em&gt;...) It just eats away at your soul (unless you are an atheist of course) that significant progress is being made in that country, isn’t it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you&#039;re asking whether we&#039;re making progress in Iraq -- maybe in some areas.  It&#039;s hard to tell.  

If you&#039;re asking whether progress in Iraq would bother me -- it wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dimsdale</strong> said (#67):</p>
<blockquote><p> (<em>wandering rand removed</em>&#8230;) It just eats away at your soul (unless you are an atheist of course) that significant progress is being made in that country, isn’t it?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re asking whether we&#8217;re making progress in Iraq &#8212; maybe in some areas.  It&#8217;s hard to tell.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re asking whether progress in Iraq would bother me &#8212; it wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And I am still, oh so patiently waiting for the omniscient lgm to address the questions and answers I put to him in #76, particularly those of Social “security.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe you have the wrong number?

&lt;strong&gt;Silkyinfamous&lt;/strong&gt; said (#76):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Politicians lying to get into office? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s been known to happen.  &quot;Uniter, not divider&quot;, &quot;humbler foreign policy&quot;


&lt;blockquote&gt;Can we stop saying Dem theories and just say insane folk?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have to start before you can stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And I am still, oh so patiently waiting for the omniscient lgm to address the questions and answers I put to him in #76, particularly those of Social “security.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe you have the wrong number?</p>
<p><strong>Silkyinfamous</strong> said (#76):</p>
<blockquote><p>Politicians lying to get into office? </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s been known to happen.  &#8220;Uniter, not divider&#8221;, &#8220;humbler foreign policy&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Can we stop saying Dem theories and just say insane folk?</p></blockquote>
<p>You have to start before you can stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bueller?  Bueller?  lgm?  lgm?

Gutless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bueller?  Bueller?  lgm?  lgm?</p>
<p>Gutless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: McCain Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCain Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Democrat Speaks Truth To&#8230;Well, Speaks Truth...&lt;/strong&gt;


Transcript:
“I’ll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we…the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn’t say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, w...</description>
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“I’ll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we…the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn’t say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, w&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate's Cove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pirate's Cove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Democrat Speaks Truth To&#8230;Well, Speaks Truth...&lt;/strong&gt;


Transcript:
“I’ll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we…the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn’t say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, w...</description>
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<p>Transcript:<br />
“I’ll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we…the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn’t say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, w&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;We Stretched the Facts&#8221; on Iraq &#171; Something should go here, maybe later.</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;We Stretched the Facts&#8221; on Iraq &#171; Something should go here, maybe later.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 09:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 24, 2008 by scrubone    I&#8217;ve been saying this for a long time but it&#8217;s nice to hear one admit it. As Krusty the Klown once remarked, “Oh crap, I said the loud part quiet and the quiet part [...]</description>
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