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By Michelle Malkin  •  May 23, 2008 12:50 PM

1ddrr.jpg Sigh. You all know I’ve been a fan of Dunkin Donuts for quite some time–and have touted their strong position in favor of immigration enforcement.

Charles Johnson notes, and many readers have e-mailed about, Dunkin Donuts’ spokeswoman Rachel Ray’s clueless sporting of a jihadi chic keffiyeh in a recent DD ad campaign. I’m hoping her hate couture choice was spurred more by ignorance than ideology.

Is Ray’s blunder worth boycotting DD over? I’ll be interested to hear the company’s take. At this point, I’m going to give the management the benefit of the doubt. They have braved boycott threats and attacks over their lonely, principled stance against illegal immigration. Given their pro-rule of law, America first position, I highly doubt the executive offices are filled with moonbats who endorse Ray’s keffiyeh chic.

While we’re on the subject of donuts, I highly recommend a visit to The Fractured Prune if you’re lucky enough to have one in your neighborhood. (Check here.) I took my newly-minted preschool graduate to the one in Towson to celebrate this morning.

They specialize in hot, hand-dipped, made-to-order donuts that are pure heaven.

Yummmmmm.

No politics. Just sticky, sweet goodness fresh from the oven:

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Commenter John Ansell writes: “DD should just bring the one fat guy back to do their ads.”

Here’s the classic ad for old time’s sake:

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  1. #101
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm, Wade said:

    I thought that was Obama Girl’s mother with a scarf to cover-up old lady turkey neck.

  2. #102
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:21 pm, grumbles said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 pm, caligulajones said:
    Should we dress like John Wayne and Ma Ingles to make sure everyone knows how American we are?

    Not sure how John Wayne dresses, but in west Texas if you dress like Ma Ingles, CPS will take your kids away!

  3. #103
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm, zeroangel said:

    in west Texas if you dress like Ma Ingles, CPS will take your kids away!

    Hahaha. Sorry, I know that was kind of poor taste, but that was clever. Good one.

  4. #104
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm, Wade said:

    Do you hate Muslims and Middle Eastern people so much that you can find their hidden agenda even in a doughnut ad?

    Is anyone who would wear a keffiyeh so naive to think it is not a statement?

  5. #105
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm, Vince said:

    wise_man, wise_guy you do crack me up!

  6. #106
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Wearyman said:

    Besides, isn’t DD the company that COMMITTED to doing FULL checks on all their employees and new hires to make sure they were LEGAL immigrants, and fired any and all ILLEGAL ones after repoting them to ICE? Using the kaffiyeh just seems out of character for them.

    Unless this one was done by some pali-symathiser commercial maker and it slipped by the folks at corporate.

    I’m withholding judgment until I see more.

    My sentiments as well.

  7. #107
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Hold on a minute. A kiffiyeh is something worn on your head in traditional Middle Eastern cultures. Rachel is wearing a scarf which is something worn about your neck in western cultures, or at least it was in the bad old fashion days of the 80s.

    When we conservatives overreact like this I think it makes us look silly. Boycott DD because Rachel wore a scarf? Come on, this is way out there.

    I love you, Michelle, and I would hope you would have the common sense to correct me when I go overboard so I am going to give you a gentle nudge on this one. When Gerry Rivera threatens to spit on you, nail his empty head to the wall. When Rachel wears a scarf let it pass.

  8. #108
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm, ThePosthumousLuger said:

    Glad I am not the only one who was bothered by this. LGF has picked it up, as well.

  9. #109
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm, BOB said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 2:18 pm, DesertLover said:
    BOB

    Use canned biscuits and cut the hole with a donut cutter … deep fry instead of bake … then roll them in cinnamon and one of the sugar replacements …

    My mother used to make them this way for my late father instead of her regular homemade donuts and they are not bad …

    Thanks, seems like I might have had some like that years ago…and they were good. Since you reminded me, I’m going to try them again.

  10. #110
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:31 pm, jwm said:

    Can’t get too excited about a scarf. What I do get excited about is that there are no Double D’s in the Bay Area. Now that is a tragedy!!!!!!! Oh in the Law Enforcement community, we do not use the D word, they are called “Power Rings.” Be careful out there.

  11. #111
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:32 pm, RetFireman said:

    I see…so if it is someting that Conservatives and Right-Wingers find offensive and representative of people hell bent on genocide and death and destruction etc., it is no big deal and we are all ridiculous.

    But should the Left, Liberals have something along the same lines, we would all be bigots, racists, and worse were we not to find it as offensive as they would.

    Wow…hypocrisy rears it’s ugly head again.

    I thought that was not in the best interests of being “Politically Correct”. After all…if one person is offended, does it not mean that said offense is to be banned immediately and forever?

    I think these “Ain’t-No-Big-Deal” libs outa go back and see all the instances hen they are on the other side of this discussion.

  12. #112
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm, RetFireman said:

    Or could it be that said “Ain’t-No-Big-Deal” types actually just plain don’t know what said article of clothing truly is or what it represents? Naw…I am sure they are making an educated and thoroughly researched opinion on said item of clothing.

  13. #113
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm, RetFireman said:

    Oh in the Law Enforcement community, we do not use the D word, they are called “Power Rings.”

    And we call them, “Fat Pills”.

  14. #114
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm, wise_man said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:31 pm, jwm said: What I do get excited about is that there are no Double D’s in the Bay Area.

    Wow. That is a tragedy indeed.

    Wait.

    You meant donuts, right?

  15. #115
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:41 pm, RetFireman said:

    But it is no big deal. those who are wearing it…it is just a scarf and does not have any other meanings…

    http://socialismandliberation.org/mag/index.php?aid=166

  16. #116
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:48 pm, terrig said:

    I don’t think half the people wearing the stupid thing have a clue. Rachel should know better but maybe she is “dressed” by someone who does.
    I hate donuts anyway so this is a no-brainer for me.

  17. #117
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:49 pm, dwneylonsr said:

    Sometimes a scarf is just a scarf…

  18. #118
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:54 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    The Dunkin Donuts website featuring Rachel Ray is also promoting bagels. What I want to know is…

    What happens when a bagel crumb falls on a kaffiyeh? Is like when matter meets antimatter? Spontaneous combustion? Sounds like one for the Mythbusters.

  19. #119
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Mookie said:

    Megan McCain has been photographed several times wearing different ones.

    I honestly think it was just a fashion decision on Rachael’s part. She’s pretty harmless.

  20. #120
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:19 pm, grumbles said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:41 pm, RetFireman said:

    But it is no big deal. those who are wearing it…it is just a scarf and does not have any other meanings…

    It would be simpler for me if you would just post a list of approved clothing, food, books, churches, automobiles, etc…. I never knew being an American would have so many restrictions.

  21. #121
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm, jroberts said:

    You wear keffiyeh’s on your head, not around your neck, so if it were an act of solidarity, it’s an amazingly stupid one.

    Second, it isn’t even a religious garment. They wear it because it’s hot and dusty and it keeps the sun and dust off your neck. Even Palestinian and Syrian Christians wear them. A Church of the Nazarene missionary visited my church in High School, and brought a keffiyeh. I seriously doubt a missionary from one of the most conservative American Protestant denominations was sporting “hate-couture.” Lighten up. It isn’t like everything from the near east is a sign of being pro-jihad. I would classify the keffiyeh as being only marginally more frightening than chickpeas and olives.

  22. #122
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm, corona said:

    What I do get excited about is that there are no Double D’s in the Bay Area.

    Huh? I thought you were writing about the Silcone Valley.

  23. #123
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm, its vintage duh said:

    Eh. I bet she doesn’t know what it represents. I’ll give her a pass.

    She probably doesn’t live, eat, and breathe this stuff like we do.

  24. #124
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:27 pm, Edouard said:

    Look, the kaffiyeh has a *direct* association with Palestinian violent action against Jews and Westerners that goes back at least 40 years. Yassir Arafat himself popularized the use of the keffiyeh in direct conjunction with his terror campaigns. Many, many, many innocent people have been brutally murdered under that black and white emblem.

    I am not so blithe as to let the kaffiyeh merely pass as an innocuous fashion accessory, despite people wishing to call it “just a scarf”. Rachael Ray may be ignorant about the figure she cuts when she wears that scarf, but I find it odious and I hope this particular segment of Dunkin’ Donuts’s ad campaign with her goes straight into the trash, and quickly.

  25. #125
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm, Mookie said:

    Michelle, just an FYI to ward off the nitpickers: it’s Rachael, not Rachel.

  26. #126
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Michelle, just an FYI to ward off the nitpickers: it’s Rachael, not Rachel.

    It’s her code name…

  27. #127
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm, Mookie said:

    It’s her code name…

    :lol:

    Anyone who annoys Oprah is good with me and according to all of those reliable newspapers at the checkout aisle, Oprah can’t stand her.

  28. #128
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm, ScottG said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Mookie said:

    I honestly think it was just a fashion decision on Rachael’s part. She’s pretty harmless.

    Harmless? Harmless?? Do you know what this can do to a guy????

  29. #129
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Anyone who annoys Oprah is good with me and according to all of those reliable newspapers at the checkout aisle, Oprah can’t stand her.

    Cool. She seems like the happy-go-lucky Italian girl-next-door to me, and I doubt there’s any political motivation here. But it’s fun on a Friday…Rach, if you’re out there, put on the puttanesca, I’ll be right over.

  30. #130
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Harmless? Harmless?? Do you know what this can do to a guy????

    Good Lord, where’s my turkey baster?!

  31. #131
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm, DaveC said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm, Mookie said:

    Anyone who annoys Oprah is good with me and according to all of those reliable newspapers at the checkout aisle, Oprah can’t stand her.

    doesn’t Oprah produce her daytime show?

    … not that I, ahem, watch it..

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm, ScottG said:

    Harmless? Harmless?? Do you know what this can do to a guy????

    whoa.. That had to be photoshopped..

  32. #132
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    If anyone on the Food Network supports Obama, they’d better start looking for new jobs, seeing as he’s going to regulate what we eat and all that…

  33. #133
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 pm, tuffy said:

    I’m already boycotting Ray. I have a no dingbat clause.

  34. #134
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Mookie said:

    Harmless? Harmless?? Do you know what this can do to a guy????

    Heh heh.

    Obama would completely change his mind about this food thing if he ate a meal at Paula Deen’s house.

  35. #135
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    ScottG:

    Sweet fancy Moses! This one’s good too!

    For anyone trying to curb their appetite, have a look-see at this. :(

  36. #136
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    ScottG:

    I see why you didn’t link here!

    Look Ma! No kaffiyeh!

  37. #137
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:42 pm, Surveyor said:

    I see why you didn’t link here!

    Look Ma! No kaffiyeh!

    speaking of donuts…….

  38. #138
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pm, Blaise said:

    I am going to make a suggestion as to your coffee choice.

    I have never liked Dunkin’ Donuts coffee…it seemed rather tasteless. As a Canadian, I have always liked Tim Horton’s which is Colombian coffee; but is not widely available in the USA.

    However, hope is riding in…on a mule named Conchita.

    You may recognize Juan Valdez as the logo of Colombian coffee…in fact, Colombian coffee producers have opened a chain of coffee places here in Colombia and are expanding rapidly inside the US. And they sell only 100% Colombian coffee.

    You have my personal guarantee that Colombian coffee is wonderful…they claim it is the best in the world, but I will leave that to you to decide.

    What I promise is that, if you can find a Juan Valdez outlet and try it, you will never return to DD.

    Incidentally, you would, at the same time, be helping Colombia’s coffee growers…Juan Valdez is their trademark, but it also their business. Juan is also doing a lot to improve Colombia’s image in the world…and producing ecellent java is a way to start.

    Anyway, it’s just a suggestion.

  39. #139
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pm, Papa Louie said:

    dwneylonsr said:
    Sometimes a scarf is just a scarf…

    Sometimes a noose is just a noose…
    Sometimes a cross is just a bookcase…
    Sometimes a shirt is just a shirt…

    Hey, that reminds me, what should I wear to the Democratic Convention? My Che Guevara shirt or my Curious George shirt?
    I’m sure it won’t make a difference. Nobody there could be so intolerant as to judge me by my clothing, could they?

  40. #140
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm, ScottG said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:42 pm, Surveyor said:

    I see why you didn’t link here!

    Look Ma! No kaffiyeh!

    speaking of donuts…….

    So now you have a place to hang your donuts….

    And Blaise, we’ve known about Juan Valdez for years.

  41. #141
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:28 pm, Blaise said:

    Hey Scott: Glad I was preaching to the choir.

    The big thing though is the push being made in foreign markets…they have invested tons…there has been an IPO here in Colombia this year for people to buy in, and the numbers of outlets is going to multiply like…like the fleas in Castro’s beard (I’m not involved…I just like the brew…some people come to Colombia for the food, others for the music…I’m here for the coffee…)

  42. #142
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm, huggybear said:

    I read somewhere that if you play the ad backwards, she says “Death to the infidels!” in Urdu. Pass it on.

  43. #143
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm, Azygos said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm, RetFireman said:
    I guess they ran out of colors for their lapel ribbons. Just couldn’t find the correct color to go with Jewish Genocide…and those pesky gold Stars of David are so 1939…

    Ouch, thats going to leave a mark. I have no doubts that she did not pick out her cloths for this national ad campaign. The director and the wardrobe person are probably responsible. And no, I don’t think its harmless. DD should pull and re-shoot the ad immediately and the person responsible should be typing a new resume.

  44. #144
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:38 pm, atheling said:

    Hmmm. Rachael had a boob job.

    I used to watch her shows on TFN, and she was NOT as big as she is in those photos that Texas Tiger is drooling over.

  45. #145
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm, huggybear said:

    Rachael had a boob job.

    And you know what they’re made of? Plastic explosive. She’s just waiting for word from DDHQ.

  46. #146
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:52 pm, Surveyor said:

    Hey Blaise, you are correct about coffee in Colombia. I lived in Barranquilla for 6 years in the early 80’s. There is no better coffee on this here planet! My folks shipped 300 lbs of it back when we left. Customs spent 3 hrs feeling every single 1 lb bag of it too.

    Cartagena was fun.

    What they pass-off as coffee in this country pales in comparison.

  47. #147
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 7:03 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I read somewhere that if you play the ad backwards, she says “Death to the infidels!” in Urdu. Pass it on.

    Heh.

    And you know what they’re made of? Plastic explosive. She’s just waiting for word from DDHQ.

    I just hope I’m sitting next to her on the plane when she decides to light them up…

  48. #148
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm, Laree said:

    Oh I figured it out she’s got Hickies.

    Infidels with Hickies tacky, tacky, tacky.

  49. #149
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 7:51 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pm, Papa Louie said:

    Hey, that reminds me, what should I wear to the Democratic Convention? My Che Guevara shirt or my Curious George shirt?

    Whatever you wear, don’t forget to ask Hillary to iron it!

  50. #150
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 7:52 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 6:38 pm, atheling said:

    Hmmm. Rachael had a boob job.

    It’s eerie. Not matter which way you move, they seen to follow you. :)

    (OvO)

  51. #151
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 7:57 pm, Donut44 said:

    I of course tend to usually fall on the side of supporting all donuts and friends of donuts, especially the Dunkin, so I will say more or less this was just a fashion thing, neither ignorance nor intentional. My wife, Mrs. Donut44, is into fashion and I am quite sure it is because of the fashionable nature of what she wears and not because of where it comes from or what is means.

    Besides, all of my dunkin donuts are owned by Middle Easterners and Southwest Asians, so I think if that didn’t push more people away, surely this wouldn’t.

    Btw, my favorite donut is the Double Chocolate, although typically when I go, I get the number 1, double chocolate and glaze with an added donut of the Coffee Roll, Medium black coffee. But I guess no one asked.

  52. #152
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 pm, ScottyDog said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 1:56 pm, tomk59 said:

    Ray is a complete idiot, and the sound of her voice is worse than finger nails on a chalkboard. DD gets the benefit of the doubt.

    ROFL
    I cannot stand RR either and I agree with the sound of her voice comment x10.

    I will not give her the benefit of doubt. I am with Charles Johnson on this one. She is a me too liberal.IMHO

  53. #153
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 9:11 pm, Mookie said:

    I will not give her the benefit of doubt. I am with Charles Johnson on this one. She is a me too liberal.IMHO

    I guess that makes Meghan McCain one too?

  54. #154
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 10:14 pm, undrseige247 said:

    OK, I’m going to make a donut ad while wearing a white cone-shaped hat. Then see how the libs react.

  55. #155
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 10:44 pm, atheling said:

    Meghan McCain’s scarf (the purple one) is hardly Palestinian-like. Herringbone isn’t exactly a Middle Eastern textile pattern.

    I think the scarf RR is wearing is also simply fashion. Those kinds of scarves have been around for a while - an acquaintance of mine has a daughter in the industry and she was selling fringed scarves like that in Hollyweird years ago.

    RR is probably just another ditzy lefty. She’ll vote for Obama because he’s cute and promises ponies for everyone.

  56. #156
    On May 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 pm, undrseige247 said:

    While we’re on the subject of donuts, I highly recommend a visit to The Fractured Prune if you’re lucky enough to have one in your neighborhood.

    No FP in NY! Maybe someday. Another great way to destroy my kidneys. :)

  57. #157
    On May 24th, 2008 at 12:32 am, TTFK said:

    I am torn regarding DD. While I am grateful for their stance on illegal immigration, I find their lawsuit-happy tactics being used against their own franchisees to be highly disturbing.

  58. #158
    On May 24th, 2008 at 2:47 am, tpierce2 said:

    I would not worry about the scarf Rachael wears.

    She strikes me as very much a good American kid that loves to cook and not much into politics.

    Much to do about nothing–unless she doesn’t get the message.

    If she appeared in a burka or whatever those damn things are called I would be concerned.

  59. #159
    On May 24th, 2008 at 4:35 am, herself said:

    Um, that’s not black and white checkered. It’s a simple scarf.

    {^_^}

  60. #160
    On May 24th, 2008 at 8:34 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Yeah, someone else mentioned clueless Cameron Diaz caught in Peru with some chic Maoist slogan accoutrement that is direct evidence of capitalism taking over China — picture Mao rolling over in his grave.

    I agree that it’s more of an insult to the jihadists than anything. Bring on the keffiyeh thongs!

    Anyone else notice now that DD is everywhere they dropped their jingle - “..it’s worth the trip.”?

  61. #161
    On May 24th, 2008 at 8:44 am, expat said:

    I think that MM is reaching on this one. Rachel Ray is not the brightest bulb in the marquis, lets face it. She can cook and is a cute, vivacious American girl. I would put her in front of a camera with a frying pan and kitchen implements in a heart beat. But to read into what she has around her neck?

    I sent scarves home to my wife when I was deployed. They were real silk scarves and did not look like that and I was not supporting Kiffeyah chic. I don’t think that RR is either. It’s just an accessory girls, keep moving…

  62. #162
    On May 24th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, ProtestShooter said:

    Let’s put it this way - if you wore that scarf in San Francisco, people would call it a keffiyeh. There’s quite a bit of variation in pattern and color and to some extent you just have to know one when you see one.

    I’m boycotting them but I’m happy to forgive them if they say it was a mistake and pull the ads.

  63. #163
    On May 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, martin.musculus said:

    I haven’t caught the tv spot, & my PDA won’t play video, so I might be really offbase here…

    Is there an easy to see difference between the head scarf worn by 1st & 2nd generation Russian / Polish old ladies & the dhimmi one?

    My best friend, Gabor’s[1st name] Grandie, (grandmom) wore a headscarf, and she was Christian.

    Asking Gabbie about it, he said she did it because Mary (Mother of Jesus) wore one.

    I noticed in the — oh, I’d guess it was mid-2-late 50’s, the same type (in appearance) of headscarf, only of a lighterweight fabric had moved into general fashion.

    Since woman’s fashions recycle, could it be that type of scarf? It would be good to knw what the differences are, so as to gauge dhimmi penetration into our society.

    - martin.musculus

  64. #164
    On May 24th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, rworks said:

    Looks like a scarf.

    The keffiyeh is worn by males on the head, not around the neck by women.

    Its a scarf, not a political statement.

  65. #165
    On May 24th, 2008 at 10:13 pm, Mooseman said:

    My sister worked at Dunkies back when she was in high school and met Fred the Baker when he visited her store. She said he was the nicest guy.

    Even after all those years, she was saddened by his passing.

    I don’t know who Rachel Ray is, but given what I’ve read here. Just another Hollyweirdo who need to buy a clue.

  66. #166
    On May 24th, 2008 at 11:28 pm, Semjaza said:

    They should stick with the “Ace Frehley sparkling guitar in the boardroom” commercial. It was funnier anyway!

  67. #167
    On May 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am, aironlater said:

    You have got to be kidding me. Seriously, though this sort of blog topic has become standard operating procedure for people like Malkin, this has left the realm of predictability and driven headlong into the arena of absurdity.

    Are you honestly telling me that because Racheal Ray is wearing a SCARF that you could probably find at any GAP or TJ MAXX that Dunkin Donuts is supporting terrorism, or even sympathizing with it?!?!

    The comdey just writes itself on this site now. I’ve noticed several comments here that are seeing this as just petty harping, but the commentors dont seem to have the ability to call this out for what it is - paranoid delusional rambling that resembles those ‘tin-fil-hat-truthers’ you all are so fond of lambasting. The commentors are so afraid of pissing off “The Purse-Lipped One” for fear of being banned or having school-yard taunts launched at them that they will just let this sort of pathetic nonsense slide.

    I mean, is this what the ‘conservative’ movement has devolved to - seeing terrorism in a cloting accessory? I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that Malkin honestly believes the stuff that spills out of her cake-hole or the people that blindly follower her.

    Of course, it would be foolish to think that Malkin is the only one that thinks this way. It appears that your friends at LGF think the same thing too.

  68. #168
    On May 25th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, expat said:

    On May 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am, aironlater said:

    Did you bother to read the entire string? The majority of us said it was much ado about nothing. It seems you missed that. Get back under the bridge troll.

  69. #169
    On May 25th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, Mark said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 pm, jsr said:

    Looks like a scarf to me. Even if it is a kaffiyeh, so what? If it is worn because it is attractive it is nothing more than a stylish accesory.

    JSR, if I find a really cool Swastika that goes well with my leather jacket; do you think I should wear that in say Skokie (do you even get the reference?) or Dachau, or how about Berlin? Maybe Brazil?

    Do I need to go on, to get my point across?

    I find it ridiculous that the people here defending this idiotic choice of clothing, are saying we are being “too sensitive”. BullSh8!

    I don’t doubt for one minute that scarf was chosen intentionally by either the photographer, or the ad agency; who no doubt knew of Dunkin Donuts attitude. Plausible deni-ablity. It was only a fashion item … BULLSH8! I realize that most “artist” are contextually (as in real life, not composition) clueless; however there are many things they do get. This is one of them.

    I would suggest sending emails and calling her show producers to express outrage at this. That will get her attention. It seems ironic that someone who ran from NYC because she was scared of being mugged (again) is now sporting a terrorist head wrap intentionally. She has never struck me as all that bright; like most “entertainers” she seems to be quite vacuous.

    I too am fed up with the liberal loons being upset over the smallest little thing: however I am fed up with those same terrorist defenders claiming we can’t be upset because we called them on their phony outrage. Some things are beyond the pale, some are offensive, and some are just stupid. All should be pointed out.

  70. #170
    On May 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, tc2011 said:

    DD has pulled the ad.

    It may be worth noting what this commenter says regarding DD and immigration.

    Regardless, I think DD should be acknowledged and thanked for pulling the ad.

    On that contact page, see “Military Coffee Request.”

    If I were a donut shop exec, I probably wouldn’t have noticed the keffiyeh connection. I say cut DD some slack, and thank them for pulling the ad!

  71. #171
    On May 25th, 2008 at 3:30 pm, aironlater said:

    Did you bother to read the entire string? The majority of us said it was much ado about nothing. It seems you missed that. Get back under the bridge troll.

    Ah, the prototypical response from somone who can’t seem to face the fact that someone outside their little bubble of protection has a valid point……

    oh, and when I said this:

    I’ve noticed several comments here that are seeing this as just petty harping, but the commentors dont seem to have the ability to call this out for what it is - paranoid delusional rambling that resembles those ‘tin-fil-hat-truthers’ you all are so fond of lambasting.

    …..That’s what I meant. It appears that you can’t even read ONE comment, much less all of them. I did read the comments that said it was ‘much ado about nothing’. However, those same people are the ones that are more than willing to let people like Malkin continue with this same paranoia unchallanged.

    Thanks for playing, run along now.

  72. #172
    On May 25th, 2008 at 3:35 pm, aironlater said:

    I don’t doubt for one minute that scarf was chosen intentionally by either the photographer, or the ad agency; who no doubt knew of Dunkin Donuts attitude. Plausible deni-ablity. It was only a fashion item … BULLSH8! I realize that most “artist” are contextually (as in real life, not composition) clueless; however there are many things they do get. This is one of them.

    Well, Mark, let’s talk about ‘cluelessness’ shall we.

    It’s a scarf. It doesn’t even look like the one that the keffiyeh. Yes, it’s black and white, but the simularities end there.

    So, according to your logic ( if I can even begin to call it that ) anyone that has a ’scarf’ that is black and white better not wear it, becuase someone somewhere that might be a terrorist or know of a terrorist might have some article of clothing that it also black and white.

    I can see the slogan now: if you wear a scarf, the terrorists win.

    I only pray that you had the intellectual honesty to see that you have, in fact, been duped by people like Malkin. Next thing you know, you’ll be afraid of your own shadow.

  73. #173
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, jsr said:

    On May 25th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, Mark said:

    JSR, if I find a really cool Swastika that goes well with my leather jacket; do you think I should wear that in say Skokie (do you even get the reference?) or Dachau, or how about Berlin? Maybe Brazil?

    Ah, the Nazi card. Excellent argument. As it turns out, the issue is not a swatika, or red star, or crescent moon. It is a scarf. Or should wearing black leather jackets be prohibited in Skokie because they were popular with Nazis? How about German Shepherds which were quite popular with concentration camp guards?

    I’ll agree with aironlater, even if he appears to be a liberal: there is a certain tinfoil hat paranoia to this.

  74. #174
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:14 pm, civiliantrooper said:

    I’ve spent a few years in the middle east. It OBVIUSLY is what it is. Statement or not…she should have known….but then again I see from some of the above comments that some folks are just ignorant.

  75. #175
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, civiliantrooper said:

    OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!

  76. #176
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, aironlater said:

    I’ve spent a few years in the middle east. It OBVIUSLY is what it is. Statement or not…she should have known….but then again I see from some of the above comments that some folks are just ignorant.

    For someone that claims to have spent time in the middle-east, you should know that traditional keffiyeh are either: white, white with black CHECKERS, or red with white CHECKERS. And even then, this is a garment that is worn throughout the middle east to sheild the wearer from the sun and from sand.

    It’s people like you and like Malkin that think that anyone that wears a scarf or headdress with even remotely simular characteristics are terrorist sympathizers.

    You are ‘obviously’ mistaken as most likely misguided due to the hype that many commentors here seem to be giving-in to.

    The scarf that Racheal Ray is wearing has a pattern on it that cannot be clearly discerened. It could be pasley shapes for all you know.

  77. #177
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, aironlater said:

    Ooops………

    It appears that British and our own American Special Forces troops wear the keffiyeh.

    Michelle, why do you and so many commentors here hate our troops so much?

  78. #178
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, aironlater said:

    On May 23rd, 2008 at 10:44 pm, atheling said:
    Meghan McCain’s scarf (the purple one) is hardly Palestinian-like. Herringbone isn’t exactly a Middle Eastern textile pattern.

    So it’s a ’scarf’ when McCain’s daugher wears one……….oh, how convenient.

  79. #179
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, atheling said:

    So it’s a ’scarf’ when McCain’s daugher wears one……….oh, how convenient

    Yup, it’s a scarf. I speak English, and the word for such an item is a SCARF.

    You obviously have not read the comments here because in an earlier one I posted above, I called RR’s “accessory” a SCARF.

    Now go troll elsewhere, libtard.

  80. #180
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, aironlater said:
  81. #181
    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, atheling said:

    BTW, libtard, I have yet to see your comment thanking the sacrifice of our troops in Michelle’s Memorial Day thread.

    Care to do so?

  82. #182
    On May 25th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, aironlater said:

    Yup, it’s a scarf. I speak English, and the word for such an item is a SCARF.

    You obviously have not read the comments here because in an earlier one I posted above, I called RR’s “accessory” a SCARF.

    Now go troll elsewhere, libtard.

    Well, before you become so enraged with the fact that I may or may not be this alleged ‘troll’ several of you seem to have such fear of, let me say that my comment regarding your mention of Meghan McCain’s scarf was pointed out due to the fact that you seemed so sure that it was ‘not Palentinian-like’.

    Considering the fact that we have estabished that this is in fact a scarf, and nothing more, I pointed out your comment to show that McCain’s daughter would never come under the same scrutiny simply because of who she is.

    This was not to slight you, but to show that a scarf is only a scarf, depending upon whom you are and whom is doing the talking.

  83. #183
    On May 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm, aironlater said:

    On May 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, atheling said:
    BTW, libtard, I have yet to see your comment thanking the sacrifice of our troops in Michelle’s Memorial Day thread.

    Care to do so?

    well, before you continue to further assume that you know me or my true motives, I did more than just leave some idle comment on a message-board.

    I went to visit the graves of my uncle and my grandfather who died in combat, and then went to church with my two cousins who have served. I don’t get to see them often, but when I do, we spend as much time togethe as possible.

    It’s not often that I would even boast that I did or do such a thing on memorial day, but in order to properly answer your question, I felt it all the more appropriate.

    Anyone can type out a few words or slap a bumper-sticker on their car, or even write an abreviated blog and claim that they are ’supporting the troops’. Sometimes even the things that I do don’t seem enough, but the last people on this planet that I need to prove anything to are Michelle Malkin and anyone on this site that thinks that me or my family haven’t offered anything to our country.

  84. #184
    On May 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, atheling said:

    Well, before you become so enraged with the fact that I may or may not be this alleged ‘troll’ several of you seem to have such fear of,

    Fear of? Don’t flatter yourself, libtard. We have plenty of trolls and you’re not the most fearsome one we’ve met, lol.

    I went to visit the graves of my uncle and my grandfather who died in combat, and then went to church with my two cousins who have served. I don’t get to see them often, but when I do, we spend as much time togethe as possible.

    Riiiiight. Sorry, libtard, but I doubt your credibility.

  85. #185
    On May 25th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, atheling said:

    Sometimes even the things that I do don’t seem enough, but the last people on this planet that I need to prove anything to are Michelle Malkin and anyone on this site that thinks that me or my family haven’t offered anything to our country.

    Maybe your family has, but I doubt if you have. What a shame your relatives died to protect someone like you.

  86. #186
    On May 25th, 2008 at 5:44 pm, aironlater said:

    Maybe your family has, but I doubt if you have. What a shame your relatives died to protect someone like you.

    LOL

    More predictable, conserative drivel. You don’t know a thing about a person, yet you feel more than validated to make comments such as these.

    Claiming patriotism is one of the first refuges of people that don’t know what real patriotism is. Please, continue using the military as a shield and Malkin’s website as your shanty-style shelter. I honestly hope and pray that you aren’t the vacuous toss-pot that you are coming off as.

  87. #187
    On May 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, atheling said:

    From your position, and from the experience I have had with trolls, I know EXACTLY what kind of person you are. (And it’s spelled c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-v-e, not “conserative”).

    Claiming patriotism is one of the first refuges of people that don’t know what real patriotism is. Please, continue using the military as a shield and Malkin’s website as your shanty-style shelter

    I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think, troll. However, I will disabuse you of the mistake you made when you initially posted your rant on this thread.

    1. You cut and paste my comment about Meghan McCain’s scarf, accusing me of some kind of double standard in that I call her accoutrement a “scarf” because it’s convenient to do so, as her father is a Republican.

    2. I correctly point out that I also did so with RR’s accoutrement, demonstrating the fact that you didn’t even bother to read all the comments here.

    3. You make some lame, fumbling excuse that you did not mean to make your point out of ME, personally.

    THAT’S BULLSHIT. You’re a liar, libtard, as most are.

    Then you pretend that you’re some patriot by hiding behind the gravestones of your relatives? What a pathetic crock! And you have the gall to accuse us of such?

    Libtard, stop projecting. Everyone knows that people like you HATE AMERICA, HATE OUR TROOPS, AND HATE CONSERVATISM.

    If anyone is coming off as a vacuous toss-pot, it’s you! You invoke the sacrifice of your relatives, who are probably ashamed of you, to somehow validate your “patriotism”??? Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. Their sacrifice DOES NOT MAKE YOU A PATRIOT, libtard. Indeed, it only deepens the shame you and your ilk should feel for betraying what they defend.

    Now, go pound sand.

  88. #188
    On May 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, atheling said:

    BTW, libtard, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and pontificate your projection to all the other conservatives on the Memorial Day gratitude thread, instead of just to me?

    I’d like to see the thrashing you’d get.

    But then of course, libtards aren’t exactly known for their courage.

  89. #189
    On May 25th, 2008 at 6:15 pm, aironlater said:

    BTW, libtard, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and pontificate your projection to all the other conservatives on the Memorial Day gratitude thread, instead of just to me?

    I’d like to see the thrashing you’d get.

    But then of course, libtards aren’t exactly known for their courage.

    so, courage - as you seem to be defining it here - is posting in a blog-style circle-jerk where you and various other faceless, conservative blog commentors try to one-up each other on how much bigger their patriotism is from the next person’s - try to see if your “God Bless America” is more resounding than the person that has posted before you?

    Now that is funny.

  90. #190
    On May 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pm, atheling said:

    Put your money where your mouth is, libtard, and stop your blustering.

    If you believe in what you say, go over there and tell everyone - I bet you won’t, you coward.

  91. #191
    On May 25th, 2008 at 6:20 pm, atheling said:

    Too shy?

    Tell you what: I’ll go over there and introduce you to them, then we can bring the fight to you.

    Sound good?

  92. #192
    On May 25th, 2008 at 6:38 pm, aironlater said:

    On May 25th, 2008 at 6:20 pm, atheling said:
    Too shy?

    Tell you what: I’ll go over there and introduce you to them, then we can bring the fight to you.

    Sound good?

    tell you what, why don’t you read rather than continue to inflate your own sense of self.

  93. #193
    On May 25th, 2008 at 9:41 pm, Joy said:

    I wouldn’t have a clue it was anything but a scarf. Looks like a scarf to me.

  94. #194
    On May 25th, 2008 at 10:09 pm, Joy said:

    Sooooooo, as conservatives we’re not allowed to wear black & white scarves… making a note of that. In all seriousness, I guess I’d rather avoid them if anyone would consider my wearing a black and white scarf a symbol of hate.

    Count me in as a clueless, I had no idea.

  95. #195
    On May 25th, 2008 at 10:18 pm, dwneylonsr said:

    For some knowledgeable background on this scarf read this

  96. #196
    On May 25th, 2008 at 10:22 pm, aironlater said:

    Sooooooo, as conservatives we’re not allowed to wear black & white scarves… making a note of that. In all seriousness, I guess I’d rather avoid them if anyone would consider my wearing a black and white scarf a symbol of hate.

    Count me in as a clueless, I had no idea.

    No, you have a right to wear whatever scarf suits your fancy. Also, people within the conservative movement have the right to engage in silly, pointless, paranoid debates on the various reasons that your particular scarf violates national security.

  97. #197
    On May 25th, 2008 at 11:07 pm, Dread Pirate Roberts VIII said:

    Wonder where Michelle found all the liberal trolls?

    Yes, this is terrorist-chic, and no, I don’t think that loud-mouthed midget twit is smart enough to wear it as a statement. She might be one of the most annoying women in the country - yes - but I don’t figure her pushing a leftist political agenda.

    I’m wrong almost every time I say that.

  98. #198
    On May 25th, 2008 at 11:18 pm, Joy said:

    PS - I don’t even know who this woman is. I’ve never heard of her until now.

  99. #199
    On May 25th, 2008 at 11:34 pm, SHoward said:

    You know, Michelle’s original posting was indeed a commentary on the choices some art director made to create an ad. She may or may not be right about the statement, if any, that director was intending to make.

    Then the comments turned playfully to commetns about donuts and a cute little chef. (Yes, count me as liking her.)

    There were a few comments about the nature of the scarf, or whatever that K word was. They were informative. Of course, I think my favorite was “sometimes a scarf is just a scarf…”

    Then along comes aironlater.

    I can certainly agree that this thread may be much ado about nothing. But something this particular commenter said troubles me.

    The comdey just writes itself on this site now. I’ve noticed several comments here that are seeing this as just petty harping, but the commentors dont seem to have the ability to call this out for what it is - paranoid delusional rambling that resembles those ‘tin-fil-hat-truthers’ you all are so fond of lambasting. The commentors are so afraid of pissing off “The Purse-Lipped One” for fear of being banned or having school-yard taunts launched at them that they will just let this sort of pathetic nonsense slide

    It would seem that, according to aironlater, those of us that post here are required to verbally rebuff our hostess if she says something that may or may not be silly. Why is this so?

    I heard the very same logic from my seasoned citizen parents when they commented once about Condi Rice not standing up to George Bush.. you know, her boss? They felt that what Bush was doing was wrong so Condi should have rebuffed him.

    Is there a reason Libs think we conservative should turn on our own? I hear that quite a bit, but it makes less and less sense each time I hear it.

    Now that the world renouned philosopher and great thinker aironlater has swooped in, we, too, must be ashamed of ourselves for not turning on our hostess and giving her a verbal thrashing. For if we do not, we, too, are mere tools it would seem.

    This thread was kinda fun to follow until you showed up, aironlater.

  100. #200
    On May 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pm, Joy said:

    I’ve seen people verbally thrash MM on here, and they live to post another day.

    aironlater is really insulting to insinuate MM would ban someone just for not agreeing with her.

    I suppose if what he says is true, he/she/it will be banned forthwith. lol

    MM also said in her post she may be overreacting and asked for our input. Now that I’ve read the thread, it appears that’s exactly what we did. Many agree with her and many don’t. But the only truly rude person on this thread is aironlater.

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