Obama’s uncle: wrong camp

By see-dubya  •  May 27, 2008 11:04 PM

Apparently Obama’s remark about his uncle liberating Auschwitz was just a gaffe, and not a full-on lie. It was actually Obama’s great uncle, and he did not, in fact, liberate Auschwitz, but instead undertook a secret mission to Cambodia.

Seriously, though: here’s the Obamessiah advancing a new legislative initiative to take care of veterans with PTSD. Worthy cause. Probably worth a little research if you’re going to try to sell it.

I ripped Mike Huckabee a new one for publishing an article in Foreign Affairs that attributed a quote from The Godfather to Sun Tzu.

At the time, I surmised that it wouldn’t have been that big a deal had Huck just tossed that off in a stump speech instead of writing it in a major foreign policy magazine. So I’ll extend the same indulgence to Barry O.

The WaPo fact-checker isn’t quite as forgiving:

The Pinocchio Test

Before hearing from the Obama campaign, I gave the candidate four Pinocchios for this howler. I am subtracting one Pinocchio in view of the explanation that Obama confused the two concentration camps and that the underlying story was accurate. Three Pinocchios for “significant factual errors.”

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  1. #334325
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm, magicarb said:

    Gaffe this:

    http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/
    2008/05/its_nothing_new.html

    Obama makes it up as he goes along.

  2. #334328
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:09 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    He STILL needs to check the facts before he spews out this kind of information. You would THINK he would, considering he was talking about someone from his own family.

  3. #334332
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:14 pm, Leatherneck said:

    The boy needs to get to his non-Christian Church so he can get his head screwed on stright.

    Sarc/off

  4. #334337
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:28 pm, katieanne said:

    Absolutely amazing how the MSM is giving this guy so many passes on so many gaffes. Bush is bombarded when he makes an error and look what happens to Repubicans who can’t spell. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

    Obama is a real piece of work. If this was such a big deal in his family, you would think he would have the facts straight and also know his relationship to the guy who went through it.

  5. #334339
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:30 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    I knew who my uncles were and which ones served where in WWII. I don’t know my Great Uncles’ names. Get real.

  6. #334340
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:33 pm, DagneyT said:

    This is proof that the Donks can say any dadgum thing that comes out of their mouth without the drive-by media saying anything…oh, wait…unless it’s not THEIR chosen candidate!

    Watch you step, Shrillary…no mention of assassination, even if it’s historically correct.

  7. #334341
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:33 pm, Hector Berlioz said:

    I’m looking forward to the debate where McCain brings up every Obama gaffe to date, and whacks the senility issue to its deserved death.

    Obama has been smoking the usual liberal dope, and when you do that you can’t ever think straight.

  8. #334342
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:34 pm, wise_man said:

    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm, magicarb said: Obama makes it up as he goes along.

    I wonder if Obama’s kids were only blocks away from the world trade center towers when they came down.

  9. #334343
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:34 pm, macmac1101 said:

    Whats the frequency Barry

  10. #334344
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:36 pm, DaveC said:

    the guy drops more crap than a pigeon on a statue..

    I’m sure he just wings in and if he needs to clarify, sends a lackey to do it later.. something close to what he said and mutters something about laying off his kids and feeding his wife..

    I’m tired, been a long day on the campaign trail, :)

    So, in closing, Leave Obama alone..

  11. #334348
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:40 pm, DesertLover said:

    This smacks of recent revelations rather than a long time source of family pride …

    This is not intended to diminish the service of his family member … if the later clarification is correct then it is something to have pride in …

    But doesn’t it seem odd that if this was such a major point of pride all those years that it only now is it being mentioned? …

    After all the months of discussion about the military service of McCain versus the criticism of B.O. over his lack of experience in general during the primary process … yet nothing was said about this until now? …

    Sorry … just the timing of this strikes me as rather odd …

  12. #334361
    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:57 pm, d1carter said:

    This guy is scaring the crap out of me…

  13. #334371
    On May 28th, 2008 at 12:14 am, dj said:

    On May 27th, 2008 at 11:57 pm, d1carter said:
    This guy is scaring the crap out of me…

    Agreed. Scarier yet is that so many still blindly follow him.

  14. #334375
    On May 28th, 2008 at 12:20 am, spo-con said:

    Add this to Rush’s list of Obamathings we can’t talk about- Uncles

  15. #334408
    On May 28th, 2008 at 2:12 am, old trooper said:

    Obama is the wrong candidate at the wrong time, in the wrong place.

    American Fools regale him as their salvation.

    He is a Phony, a Marxist, a Racist and clearly lacking in Honesty, Integrity and Leadership.

    If this clown is elected We are in for Four Very Bad Years Here!

  16. #334417
    On May 28th, 2008 at 2:40 am, Skeptic said:

    I would call Obama’s gaffe actually a faith promoting rumor. The crowds swoon and genuflect at his words, the facts don’t matter.

    This is not just a mistake, it was a story about a great uncle that he made into an uncle, he did it to tell people that soldiers that comeback from war are damaged goods, that they are less than capable. This is a direct hit at John McCain. While it was ostensibly about his non-uncle great uncle (one of those typical white people obviously) it was also talking about how veterans are not stable.

    His racist pastor, his racist-elitist wife, his terrorist friends all show the type of person that Obama is. His telling tall tales is a minor incident in the scheme of things. But it is telling nonetheless.

  17. #334437
    On May 28th, 2008 at 5:27 am, graysonret said:

    Next up: Another relative who shot down Yamamoto in 1943, or broke the German defense at Omaha Beach, by himself. I’m still waiting for him to state that while Clinton was dodging bullets in Bosnia, he was cleaning the snipers out.

  18. #334443
    On May 28th, 2008 at 7:02 am, tarpon said:

    Commie-Obama is so well read, he doesn’t need to do no stinking research — And to prove it, the drive-by media will fix every gaffe he makes. What’s wrong with doing a few rewrites of history, every week?

    Is making up family heroics worse than what phoney soldiers do? I think not, they are both trying to serve the same master.

  19. #334444
    On May 28th, 2008 at 7:04 am, Truesoldier said:

    After all the months of discussion about the military service of McCain versus the criticism of B.O. over his lack of experience in general during the primary process … yet nothing was said about this until now? …

    And he could not even get the story straight.

  20. #334450
    On May 28th, 2008 at 7:23 am, terrig said:

    He is a scary person and it’s scary all of the kool-aid drinkers who drink this up. We know the sorry state of education in this country, how many of the under 25 group even knew that the Red Army liberated Auschwitz but even more important how many cared? They’re all in love with the Messiah and it’s pretty obvious they don’t care. Like an hour old diaper on a newborn baby all they want is “change”.
    I’m waiting for him to say he had an obscure Uncle on General Washington’s staff at Valley Forge, or on the staff of General Andrew Jackson.

  21. #334452
    On May 28th, 2008 at 7:26 am, GaMidnightRider said:

    This should wake people up to the fact that Obooboo is the same type of lying politician as everyone else, but i know that will never happen. If a GOP politician had said this he would be all over every news channel. The MSM would have had a field day with it but notice how they are not saying anything about it. Proves the MSM wants Obooboo to win. Does this mean the MSM is the same as Hamas ? Makes you think huh.

  22. #334460
    On May 28th, 2008 at 7:40 am, undrseige247 said:

    It goes to show how self centered the guy is. I know my uncle was a Merrill’s Marauder and was a tough son-of-a-b*tch. And I should know these things out of respect for my family.

  23. #334468
    On May 28th, 2008 at 7:53 am, Texas Tiger said:

    The attempt to shield the name of the Obama relative who took part in the liberation of Ohrdruf lasted about an hour. According to the Associated Press, it is Charlie Payne, the brother of Obama’s maternal grandmother, Madelyn Lee Payne.

    Well that explains it. D’ohbama didn’t speak directly to Crazy Uncle Charlie because he belongs to the “typical white” side of the family.

  24. #334476
    On May 28th, 2008 at 8:01 am, FruNobulux said:

    My uncle Murray conquered Egypt. Or was it my cousin Ethel who worked at a 7-11? Doesn’t matter. It proves that we need higher taxes and Bush lied.

  25. #334489
    On May 28th, 2008 at 8:21 am, Hannibal said:

    “Good morning President Obama, David Gregory here”. “Why did you order the Air Force to bomb an aluminum factory in Moscow, Idaho?”

    “Well, Davey, Michelle told me to bomb a uranium facility in Moscow. I was tired and might have misspoken. Aluminum, uranium, whatever”. “The Air Force asked which one and I said “the one in the Red State stupid”. “You know those guys, always questioning me”. “Told them to shut up, cause We Can DO It!”

    “Michelle says it worked out OK. The town has very few of our people and voted 72% Republican in ‘08.”

    “Yes Mr. President, we at NBC know it is a hard job and stuff happens”.

  26. #334492
    On May 28th, 2008 at 8:26 am, DogBreath said:

    Americans should be worried. A co-worker of mine is a BHO delegate to the WA convention and brought literature from some of the barking moonbats wanting to be elected to the national convention. His followers are Zombies. No will of their own.

  27. #334503
    On May 28th, 2008 at 8:45 am, cicerokid said:

    If obummers statement was before any other group on a different date, I would give him a pass. But to reflect on a family member who served, on Memorial day, to a group that held vets, without taking time to get his story straight, was insulting to those who served proudly, many in their family footsteps “lineage of service”. Again he displays his detachment from society.

  28. #334517
    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:02 am, lgm said:

    Does MM owe Obama an apology? She acknowledged that what she huffed and puffed about yesterday was wrong, but she didn’t apologize.

    McCain came back from Baghdad saying it was safe for him to walk the streets. He didn’t even need a bullet proof vest. But video from the trip showed him wearing the vest and protected by a detachment of soldiers and a dozen helicopter gunships. Maybe someone here should get all red in the face over that one.

    Someone might comment on Scott McClellen’s new book discussing that famous Bush “restored to the White House” integrity.

  29. #334523
    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:10 am, FruNobulux said:

    Right on, lgm. You nailed the issue on the head. Bush lied, kids died or whatever, so it’s OK if O’Bama’s a featherweight who makes up stuff as he goes, has not even a basic grasp of 20th Century history, think’s there are 57 states in the US and doesn’t understand why Iraqis don’t speak the same language as Afghans. He should be Commander in Chief! I hope that helps his children!

  30. #334525
    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:11 am, polokfla said:

    It’s all about the speaker’s motives, don’t you know.
    When a liberal tells a whopper, it is done for benevolent purposes, so the fact that the statement is a lie can be sloughed off by claiming it as a mis-statement or a botched joke or “I was tired.”
    However when a conservative gets caught telling a doozy…it’s always an evil, wicked, blatant, nefarious, purposeful lie. Conservatives-bad. Liberals-good.
    End of lesson. Class dismissed.

  31. #334535
    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:19 am, Texas Tiger said:

    Q: Does MM owe Obama an apology?
    A: No. As the WaPo fact-checker wrote:

    Three Pinocchios for “significant factual errors.”

    Whine: Maybe someone here should get all red in the face over that one.
    A: That’s your job. We’ll stay off your turf.

    Threadjack: Someone might comment on Scott McClellen’s new book discussing that famous Bush “restored to the White House” integrity.
    A: You just did. Buh-bye!

  32. #334543
    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:23 am, see-dubya said:

    lgm–

    For the record, I was the one blogging Obama’s gaffe, not Michelle.

    I think this post counts as a correction.

  33. #334563
    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:32 am, lgm said:

    see-dubya said (#32):

    I think this post counts as a correction.

    Yes, but not an apology.

  34. #334580
    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:42 am, supersean said:

    lgm,

    I like discourse and opposing views but give it a rest you sound like a whiny school kid… Michelle and those who blog with her are much more responsible than most bloggers on whatever side of the spectrum when it comes to publishing corrections.

    Don’t you have a tree to hug or something?

  35. #334627
    On May 28th, 2008 at 10:08 am, southsideironworks said:

    Considering this Auschwitz topic has been part of his shtick since 2002, one would figure he’d have checked his facts.

    Or hope no one else did.

  36. #334655
    On May 28th, 2008 at 10:34 am, Memomachine said:

    Hmmmm.

    Ace of Spades

    Hold on!

    Charles Payne, Obama’s Great Uncle, may not have been in the 89th Infantry Division. In fact he may not have even been in the US Army. Or even Europe in WWII.

    Some guy at Ace of Spades found the roster for all soldiers assigned to the 89th Infantry Division and Obama’s Great Uncle isn’t on that list. And looking at the enlistment records for Kanasas has two Charles Payne entering the US Navy.

    Could Obama have gotten every single detail wrong? Could Obama have been making it all up in order to play with the crowd?

    *shrug* seems possible to me.

  37. #334734
    On May 28th, 2008 at 11:21 am, southsideironworks said:
  38. #334746
    On May 28th, 2008 at 11:29 am, formerwm said:

    Obambi trots out his white relatives when it serves his purpose. My father was one of the first to enter Nagasaki after the bomb was dropped but I guess if I was running for president it would sound more dramatic to say he was the first American GI to enter Heroshima (guessing at the spelling) and saved small children from an orphan after the evil US dropped the bomb. This guy is so slick he makes Bill Clinton look like a choir boy and I mean that as no insult to any past and present choir boys.

  39. #334752
    On May 28th, 2008 at 11:33 am, DBNinKY said:

    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:32 am, lgm said:

    see-dubya said (#32):

    I think this post counts as a correction.

    Yes, but not an apology.

    There was no offense to dictate an apology.

  40. #334760
    On May 28th, 2008 at 11:38 am, DBNinKY said:

    On May 28th, 2008 at 9:02 am, lgm said:

    “Someone might comment on Scott McClellen’s new book discussing that famous Bush “restored to the White House” integrity.”

    Scott McClellen: Ex-employee terminated for incompetence, writes smear book disguised as tell-all on former boss and co-workers. What’s left to be said?

  41. #334916
    On May 28th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Does MM owe Obama an apology?

    No. see-dubya wrote the piece, but facts aren’t important to the left. And apologize for what? Obama tossed off a story about his uncle (wrong) at Auschwitz (also wrong) – and the blog world noted that. Obama should apologize. Added to the 57 states, 10,000 dead in a Tornado, he looks like a fool running for President.

  42. #334951
    On May 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, sfrvn said:

    Remember, the original “gaffe” was the “Fallen Heroes” he saw standing raptly listening to his awesome words – Defenders? Hello? Anyone?

    (Skeptic #16)

    This is not just a mistake, it was a story about a great uncle that he made into an uncle, he did it to tell people that soldiers that comeback from war are damaged goods, that they are less than capable. This is a direct hit at John McCain. While it was ostensibly about his non-uncle great uncle (one of those typical white people obviously) it was also talking about how veterans are not stable.

    But we all knew that all ready, didn’t we? I mean, you’ve all seen the same movies Obambi saw.

    That was really the most egregious error. On Memorial Day, denigrating veterans to promote a political agenda (his version if the new Gi Bill) which he also uses to attack McCain. Beautiful the way he wraps it all up. Except that there were no Fallen Heros” in attendance, no relative of his liberated Buchenwald, and apparently now no relative of his served in the Army in WW II. But I’m still supposed to believe that his uncle/grand uncle hid in the attic for 6 months and that is why we need his GI Bill?

  43. #335287
    On May 28th, 2008 at 6:36 pm, undrseige247 said:

    lgm said:

    Yes, but not an apology.

    I think you owe us an apology for showing your chicken head on this board pal.

  44. #335479
    On May 28th, 2008 at 11:32 pm, derel3433 said:

    if he’ll lie about this what else will he lie about? hmmmm. this is outrageous. I can’t believe the MSM is covering up for him on this one–well actually . . .

  45. #335540
    On May 29th, 2008 at 4:14 am, WORK949 said:

    Auschwitz, Dachau, Bergen Belsen, Treblinka, Gitmo:

    You see one, you’ve seen them all, right Senator O?

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