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		<title>By: May, 2008 Archive &#171; Right Minded Online</title>
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		<dc:creator>May, 2008 Archive &#171; Right Minded Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] legal, and rare    The family of a 13-year-old girl is suing the D.C. Planned Parenthood for $50 million for performing a &#8220;safe&#8221; abortion on the girl that left her permanently injured and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Planned Parenthood&#8217;s obscene profits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Planned Parenthood&#8217;s obscene profits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Washington, D.C., the family of 13-year-old Shantese Butler filed a $50 million suit against Planned Parenthood after a botched abortion left the girl permanently injured and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Liberal Spin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Family sues D.C. Planned Parenthood for $50 million</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Spin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Family sues D.C. Planned Parenthood for $50 million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DBNinKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBNinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 15:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On May 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, Rusty said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Taking away the best students and moving them to private education hurts those left behind.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is absolutely incorrect! 

Grouping students according to their ability to learn various segments-amounts of instructional material (i.e., special ed and AP classes) has been proven to be the optimal method of delivering instruction to high and low performing students for decades, and serves as an effective model in the argument for private education.

Not only would-do private schools offer  advanced students the type of educational opportunities and experiences they could never hope to receive in public schools, by attracting a nominal number of the academically gifted away from public schools, they also help reduce the class load/size on public school teachers. 

The reduction in class size would result in PS teachers being able to devote more time and resources to their less able students, ensuring that these kids learn the necessary skills and concepts they not otherwise grasp if they were in a diluted educational environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On May 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, Rusty said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Taking away the best students and moving them to private education hurts those left behind.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is absolutely incorrect! </p>
<p>Grouping students according to their ability to learn various segments-amounts of instructional material (i.e., special ed and AP classes) has been proven to be the optimal method of delivering instruction to high and low performing students for decades, and serves as an effective model in the argument for private education.</p>
<p>Not only would-do private schools offer  advanced students the type of educational opportunities and experiences they could never hope to receive in public schools, by attracting a nominal number of the academically gifted away from public schools, they also help reduce the class load/size on public school teachers. </p>
<p>The reduction in class size would result in PS teachers being able to devote more time and resources to their less able students, ensuring that these kids learn the necessary skills and concepts they not otherwise grasp if they were in a diluted educational environment.</p>
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		<title>By: englishqueen01</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337492</link>
		<dc:creator>englishqueen01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Because school vouchers come at the expense of the children who are stuck in the sub-par public school. Taking away the best students and moving them to private education hurts those left behind.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While I don&#039;t want to open up a new can of worms here, I find it sad that the good students should be denied access to a good education because it&#039;s &quot;unfair&quot;.

Try coming to MPS once.  See how the public schools run.  Absolute chaos.  Violence, disrespect, not doing homework, piss-poor graduation rates.

The kids hurt most by a lack of school choice are minorities.  Those in Milwaukee fortunate enough to be in the choice program are far better served.

And it&#039;s the choice - of the crappy parents, the misbehaving students, the ineffective administrators - that the schools, quite frankly, suck.

Kids who want an education so as to break out of the cycle of ignorance and poverty should not be denied.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I know the counter-argument is that abortion comes at the expense of the fetus, but many don’t consider the fetus to be a human being.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunately for them, the baby is a human being by the very nature of his DNA.  He is not a chicken, not a whale.  A human being.

And with medical advancements, children as young as 22 weeks gestation are able to survive - and thrive - outside the womb.

It is my sincere hope that if hearts can&#039;t be moved, medical science will make abortion irrelevant by discovering what pro-lifers have argued all along: a baby is a human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because school vouchers come at the expense of the children who are stuck in the sub-par public school. Taking away the best students and moving them to private education hurts those left behind.</p></blockquote>
<p>While I don&#8217;t want to open up a new can of worms here, I find it sad that the good students should be denied access to a good education because it&#8217;s &#8220;unfair&#8221;.</p>
<p>Try coming to MPS once.  See how the public schools run.  Absolute chaos.  Violence, disrespect, not doing homework, piss-poor graduation rates.</p>
<p>The kids hurt most by a lack of school choice are minorities.  Those in Milwaukee fortunate enough to be in the choice program are far better served.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s the choice &#8211; of the crappy parents, the misbehaving students, the ineffective administrators &#8211; that the schools, quite frankly, suck.</p>
<p>Kids who want an education so as to break out of the cycle of ignorance and poverty should not be denied.</p>
<blockquote><p>I know the counter-argument is that abortion comes at the expense of the fetus, but many don’t consider the fetus to be a human being.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately for them, the baby is a human being by the very nature of his DNA.  He is not a chicken, not a whale.  A human being.</p>
<p>And with medical advancements, children as young as 22 weeks gestation are able to survive &#8211; and thrive &#8211; outside the womb.</p>
<p>It is my sincere hope that if hearts can&#8217;t be moved, medical science will make abortion irrelevant by discovering what pro-lifers have argued all along: a baby is a human being.</p>
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		<title>By: fourstringfuror</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337482</link>
		<dc:creator>fourstringfuror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How convenient. When a fetus is wanted, it&#039;s a baby. When it&#039;s not, it&#039;s an inhuman cell cluster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How convenient. When a fetus is wanted, it&#8217;s a baby. When it&#8217;s not, it&#8217;s an inhuman cell cluster.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337466</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because school vouchers come at the expense of the children who are stuck in the sub-par public school. Taking away the best students and moving them to private education hurts those left behind.

I&#039;m also against public money going to religious programs (such as parochial school).

I know the counter-argument is that abortion comes at the expense of the fetus, but many don&#039;t consider the fetus to be a human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because school vouchers come at the expense of the children who are stuck in the sub-par public school. Taking away the best students and moving them to private education hurts those left behind.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also against public money going to religious programs (such as parochial school).</p>
<p>I know the counter-argument is that abortion comes at the expense of the fetus, but many don&#8217;t consider the fetus to be a human being.</p>
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		<title>By: atheling</title>
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		<dc:creator>atheling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty:

If you are so &quot;supportive&quot; of &quot;choice&quot;, why can&#039;t parents &quot;CHOOSE&quot; what school their child attends?

Why such blatant hypocrisy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty:</p>
<p>If you are so &#8220;supportive&#8221; of &#8220;choice&#8221;, why can&#8217;t parents &#8220;CHOOSE&#8221; what school their child attends?</p>
<p>Why such blatant hypocrisy?</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337422</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AK, fair point.

&lt;blockquote&gt;At least 60% of women who do have ultrasounds choose not to abort.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is great. But some women make the decision and don&#039;t want to have second thoughts. That&#039;s their right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AK, fair point.</p>
<blockquote><p>At least 60% of women who do have ultrasounds choose not to abort.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is great. But some women make the decision and don&#8217;t want to have second thoughts. That&#8217;s their right.</p>
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		<title>By: alaskangrizzly</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337394</link>
		<dc:creator>alaskangrizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Because a woman shouldn’t have to jump through coercive hoops to get a legal medical procedure.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll toss that one on my doctor the next time insurance paperwork comes up to be filled out and see how it goes for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because a woman shouldn’t have to jump through coercive hoops to get a legal medical procedure.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll toss that one on my doctor the next time insurance paperwork comes up to be filled out and see how it goes for me.</p>
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		<title>By: englishqueen01</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337393</link>
		<dc:creator>englishqueen01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m against laws that make viewing an ultrasound mandatory to get an abortion, but, I’m more or less right there with you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This goes back to &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;fully&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; informed consent, Rusty.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why? Scared they might actually see a baby in there and choose to let it live?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At least 60% of women who do have ultrasounds choose not to abort.  Often women who abort – especially women who have chemical abortions and “deliver” at home – report being absolutely devastated by seeing that the 8-, 10-, 12-week gestation baby actually looked like a baby and not an indistinguishable clump of cells.  Many of the same said they wouldn’t have had an abortion if they had been told what their child was actually doing in regards to development.

It’s at least comforting to know you didn’t understand the anger toward those two films.  I, however, do.  In both cases, the women (fictional, mind you) chose life.  I can’t remember the exact quote, but one columnist was appalled they didn’t at least consider abortion more seriously.  That didn’t make sense to me because, in “Juno”, she actually goes to the clinic and decides to leave.  I don’t know how much more serious needs to be, but…

I guess I hearken back to the quote by Harrison Hickman to NARAL back in 1989:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Nothing has been as &lt;em&gt;damaging to our cause as which have the advances in technology [that have] allowed pictures&lt;/em&gt; of the developing fetus, because &lt;em&gt;now people talk about that fetus in much different terms&lt;/em&gt; than they did fifteen years ago. &lt;em&gt;They talk about it as a human being&lt;/em&gt;, which is &lt;em&gt;not something that I have an easy answer how to cure.&quot; &lt;/em&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It’s a pretty telling quote.  An ultrasound does nothing more than show what’s really there (a human being), smashing the pro-abortion notion that a baby doesn’t look or develop into a human until before birth (and then, if you’re Barack Obama, it might not be human after birth either).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m against laws that make viewing an ultrasound mandatory to get an abortion, but, I’m more or less right there with you.</p></blockquote>
<p>This goes back to <strong><em>fully</em></strong> informed consent, Rusty.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Why? Scared they might actually see a baby in there and choose to let it live?</p></blockquote>
<p>At least 60% of women who do have ultrasounds choose not to abort.  Often women who abort – especially women who have chemical abortions and “deliver” at home – report being absolutely devastated by seeing that the 8-, 10-, 12-week gestation baby actually looked like a baby and not an indistinguishable clump of cells.  Many of the same said they wouldn’t have had an abortion if they had been told what their child was actually doing in regards to development.</p>
<p>It’s at least comforting to know you didn’t understand the anger toward those two films.  I, however, do.  In both cases, the women (fictional, mind you) chose life.  I can’t remember the exact quote, but one columnist was appalled they didn’t at least consider abortion more seriously.  That didn’t make sense to me because, in “Juno”, she actually goes to the clinic and decides to leave.  I don’t know how much more serious needs to be, but…</p>
<p>I guess I hearken back to the quote by Harrison Hickman to NARAL back in 1989:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Nothing has been as <em>damaging to our cause as which have the advances in technology [that have] allowed pictures</em> of the developing fetus, because <em>now people talk about that fetus in much different terms</em> than they did fifteen years ago. <em>They talk about it as a human being</em>, which is <em>not something that I have an easy answer how to cure.&#8221; </em> </p></blockquote>
<p>It’s a pretty telling quote.  An ultrasound does nothing more than show what’s really there (a human being), smashing the pro-abortion notion that a baby doesn’t look or develop into a human until before birth (and then, if you’re Barack Obama, it might not be human after birth either).</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337387</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. Because a woman shouldn&#039;t have to jump through coercive hoops to get a legal medical procedure. If a woman wants to see an ultrasound, that should be made available to her. If she doesn&#039;t, then that&#039;s fine too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Because a woman shouldn&#8217;t have to jump through coercive hoops to get a legal medical procedure. If a woman wants to see an ultrasound, that should be made available to her. If she doesn&#8217;t, then that&#8217;s fine too.</p>
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		<title>By: alaskangrizzly</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337316</link>
		<dc:creator>alaskangrizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;DP opined:

I’m against laws that make viewing an ultrasound mandatory to get an abortion&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why? Scared they might actually see a baby in there and choose to let it live?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>DP opined:</p>
<p>I’m against laws that make viewing an ultrasound mandatory to get an abortion</p></blockquote>
<p>Why? Scared they might actually see a baby in there and choose to let it live?</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337298</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, please then, explain to me why pro-aborts get hyper every time proposals to offer pre-abortion counseling (including an ultrasound, alternative resources, etc.), or why they splash headlines when abortion rates decline?

More to the point - even recently - pro-aborts have gone after films like “Juno” and “Knocked Up” on the sole basis that the women in these films choose not to abort.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m against laws that make viewing an ultrasound mandatory to get an abortion, but, I&#039;m more or less right there with you. I would love it if abortion clinics had adoption brochures. I have no problem, in fact I prefer it, if the mother to be chooses life.

Some (not all or even a majority, mind you) people were really upset at Knocked Up and Juno. I will never understand that. They made their choices. If they chose otherwise, I don&#039;t think the movies would have been as funny. Or as long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, please then, explain to me why pro-aborts get hyper every time proposals to offer pre-abortion counseling (including an ultrasound, alternative resources, etc.), or why they splash headlines when abortion rates decline?</p>
<p>More to the point &#8211; even recently &#8211; pro-aborts have gone after films like “Juno” and “Knocked Up” on the sole basis that the women in these films choose not to abort.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m against laws that make viewing an ultrasound mandatory to get an abortion, but, I&#8217;m more or less right there with you. I would love it if abortion clinics had adoption brochures. I have no problem, in fact I prefer it, if the mother to be chooses life.</p>
<p>Some (not all or even a majority, mind you) people were really upset at Knocked Up and Juno. I will never understand that. They made their choices. If they chose otherwise, I don&#8217;t think the movies would have been as funny. Or as long.</p>
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		<title>By: atheling</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/28/family-sues-dc-planned-parenthood-for-50-million/comment-page-2/#comment-337146</link>
		<dc:creator>atheling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furthermore, if abortionists support &quot;choice&quot;, why is it that they do not support &quot;choice&quot; when it comes to education, as in vouchers for private schools?

Why the hypocrisy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, if abortionists support &#8220;choice&#8221;, why is it that they do not support &#8220;choice&#8221; when it comes to education, as in vouchers for private schools?</p>
<p>Why the hypocrisy?</p>
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