Greatest hits: All of Barack Obama’s men of bad faith; Update: Chicago archdiocese spanks Pfleger
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Here’s a handy little video guide to Barack Obama’s various men of bad faith–a quick blog cheat sheet with all the poison preachers in one place, each accompanied by a trademark demagogic YouTube clip, for easy reference and ranked in order of unhingedness. It’s getting crowded in the crazy uncle attic, sweetie.
4. Current Trinity pastor and N-word-spouting Ice Cube fan Otis “At war with the enemy” Moss, whom Obama refers to as a “wonderful young pastor:”
3. James Meeks.
“We don’t have slave masters. We got mayors. But they still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able, or to be educated.”
“You got some preachers that are house niggers. You got some elected officials that are house niggers. And rather than them trying to break this up, they gonna fight you to protect this white man.”
2. Embarrassment to the Catholic Church Michael “There’s a black man stealing my show!” Pfleger.
1. And the one and only Jeremiah “God damn America!” Wright, with thanks to the North Carolina GOP for defying the McCain camp and spreading the word:
See also Stanley Kurtz’s probe of Wright’s Trumpet.
How many more?
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Update: Catholics rise up against Rev. Pfleger.
Update: The Chicago Archdiocese issues a statement condemning Pfleger from Cardinal Francis George:
“Racial issues are both political and moral and are also highly charged. Words can be differently interpreted, but Fr. Pfleger’s remarks about Senator Clinton are both partisan and amount to a personal attack. I regret that deeply.
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I was talking to my cousin last night and she was telling me that her son told her last week that “holy men” like these clowns, as well as Swaggert, Baker, etc. are the reason he stopped going to church. No matter what your faith, I think this is a very sad statement.
On the flipside-I may be wrong about this but I thought politicing from the pulpit was grounds to lose your tax exempt status. I think they need to stick to soul saving and not politics. And before the Keyboard Warrior Brigade swings into action, this goes for all faiths so stuff it.
Yep, they sho know how ta brang da peeps togetha’ ! Praise Gawd ! Take down dem honky’s !
Terrig,
I agree. It takes a few bad “holy men” to ruin it for the rest of us. As a Roman Catholic, I am outraged and offended by Pfleger. The Vatican needs to defrock this priest. He is supporting a man that truly believes in abortion at any stage of the pregnancy. In addition, his sermon was very much un-Christ-like (if that is a word, sorry). However, I will rise above and I will pray for all these men.
Terrig,
I agree as well; it either pushes them away or inhibits them from pursuing religion altogether. It’s poisonous. Yet, these are the “Christians” that Dems can embrace, all other Christians need not apply.
Very sad state of affairs.
The Obamas have received an earful of these same clowns for years. They can’t convince me that all that negative input hasn’t shaped their politics. Victim mentality reigns supreme in Chicago !
A friend once told me that when she was a child her grandfather told her:
“Show mw who your friends are and I’ll tell you wo you are.”
Which I guess is another way of saying “Birds of a feather flock together.”
Americans had better stop fainting and start paying attention to this man’s associates. They’re giving us some clues as to who he really is, not to mention Mrs. O.
Too little; too late. Besides, the problem isn’t that you said these words. The issue is the fact that you believe it and are spreading this message from the pulpit!
Is this discussion helping Michelle Obama’s children?
We need a body count: How many americans (lower case intentional) are absorbing the tripe these charlatains dish? These “men” are entrusted with the resposibility to share the Good News of Christ. Where is it? How does their personal agenda of hate fit into the Good News of salvation? Those pews are the seats of some sick social club. I pray for our country. Michelle, why didn’t Nancy Pelosi make the list?
The awful statements of these repugnant persons are bad enough – I can only hope that Americans will be able to discern between Obama’s own mis-statements, lies and displays of virally poor judgement and his mere stupid “gaffes.”
I have a young friend that is in college. She thinks that Obama is wonderful, period. NOTHING is going to change her mind.
The next 8 years should be fun.
“At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.” ~Matthew 24:10-11
“For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.”
~2 Corinthians 11:13-15
As the Bereans in Acts 17:11, I’ve “received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what [these "pastors"] said was true.” They are not. Their messages are completely counter to the concept of grace and, with their slander of whites, especially the Clintons (of whom I’m not fan, but seriously), against the commandment to “love your neighbor.” For these reasons, the title of “false teacher/prophet” fits them well. Why the Church, Catholic and Protestant alike, does not rebuke such men is beyond me. Actually, it’s because they are either 1) cowardly, or 2) afraid of losing their tax exempt status, which is the government’s leash on churches.
#11 Rob……..One good thing about that, a majority of college grads don’t bother to vote. They just sit around study groups and “feel good” about the candidate.
What he said…
He regretted the choice of words, not that he said them. If he could have used different words to say the same thing he would.
Since we’re talking about family proverbs, my mom used to say if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas. Obama has a string of fleas hanging off of him, and they’re all apostate preachers.
I am fed up with the non-apology.
He chose them precisely because they were offensive. In fact, Pfleger prefers offensive words and sentiments. These are “pastors” for whom religion is secondary. They represent the secular far more zealously than the sacred.
“These people are part of who I am”
Oblahma 08
30 & Christine, it does make me heartsick when I hear this garbage but you’re right, these guys are hearlded and while Swaggert is certainly pond scum as well he’s held up to be the “conservative Christian’s type of preacher”.
I know we’ve all had friends pass through our lives that weren’t probably the best people we could have associated with. But on the flipside, Obama seems to have only these types of friends. Terrorists who wish they had “done more” damage, preachers like these people, Resko-as many of you have said, you’re known by the company you keep.
And this says a lot too, Send_me:
You cant sit and listen to this stuff for 20 years and not be turned aside to fables. Obama stayed in that church not just for political purposes, but because he was hearing what he liked and wanted to hear.
Baloney! he mentioned livestream and after they were probably ^5ing each other.
This guy’s a Clown and a Dirtbag.
It is a sad statement. It’s also a handy excuse for not attending church. There are plenty of churches that preach and teach the Bible. Your cousin’s son needs to hunt around and find one where he can be fed spiritually. It can be done.
:looks under bus:
Yep, I agree.
I just watched “Charlie Wilson’s War” again last night. It made me wonder about our current pool of politicians: do any of them have vision? Sure, they have their policy talking points, but do any of them have a forward-looking vision of boldness and greatness for America? As you pointed out, Obama clearly doesn’t have the skills of discernment/judgment to be president, and who knows what his vision is beyond his own selfish gains. But then again, how many politicians aren’t in this game for selfish gain?
Excuse me? What conservative is holding Swaggert up as a role model? Certainly not me nor anyone I know. Swaggert didnt have enough sense to “go and sin no more”. He could have been forgiven and restored but he preferred to wallow in the muck of the world. I know preachers who have messed up very badly. But some of the came to their senses, came before the church and asked for forgiveness, and they were forgiven and restored. Swaggert’s problem was his arrogant earthly pride.
Here’s Swaggert’s and Obama’s preacher’s problem right here:
And those lying preachers, Swaggert included, have all of these traits.
What about Farrakhan? Obama participated in Farrakhan’s so-called Million Man March, and the anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader has strong ties to Obama’s church.
You think the race haters at “The Trinity Church of What’s Happening Now” would buy a clue and ban video camera’s to include video cell phones into their meeting house to expose the hate filled screeds of the people that need to go back to seminary school and learn the true message of Christianity. These no apology apologies aren’t doing it for me anymore all I hear is I’m sorry I got caught when I hear from them or their spokes people.
Robertson, Hagee, Dobson, … These guys are bad and they have clout. If you want to talk about nutty preachers, you’re picking on peanuts instead of the ones who actually are dangerous.
“We don’t have slave masters. We got mayors. But they still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able, or to be educated.”
Does Obama have any sane friends?
crap – i’ve got to learn how to use the ‘quote’ tags. apparently, i quoted myself, and the reverend opined.
ironically, i appear to be the tard.
I ask you-How is this helping Michelle’s kids!
I am the worst example of a christian life.. I try my best.. but NEVER have I looked to Swaggert as a Christian leader or “conservative Christian’s type of preacher”.
as far as I’m concerned.. if you are on TV, that’s a strike against you.
if I DID have to pick a TV preacher, it would be Falwell in his later years..
After he was off TV and friends with Larry Flynt.. To me, that’s a good example of a christian life, reaching out to people that normally wouldn’t be looking for God..
I thought her six figure salary was doing that… she needs more?
Misterbee, perhaps in your zeal to question my religion by virtue of my cousin you mistook what I was trying to say: the libs hold swaggert up as the “conservative Christain’s minister” not conservatives, liberals. They’re always pointing to him and Falwell, etc. Got it?
I was watching the first one…
The REAL issue I have with this is that they’ve turned the church into a racist history course.
Instead of faith and religion (which i don’t really care for anyway…) these pastors seem to just be about demonizing whitey.
How weak minded and dull are you to go to this dump every sunday and listen to something this dumb?
it’s been said before here and numerous other places.. you are known by the people you keep..
in high school, (the 3 years I went after being homeschooled) I hung out with some of the burn outs and stoners because they were the guys I knew in my neighborhood..
after high school, I had an epiphany that they will only hold me back so I moved on.. met new people in college and I advanced in life a little more..
and after I met the woman who would be my wife, I met more Christian men and I grew up more (matured).. and so on…
it is the company you keep helps define who you are..
#11
College kidz love Obama and money still grows on a tree in their parents backyard.
As far as Obama goes, you’re only as good as your base of supporters. You only need to look as far as Crazy Uncle Ron Paul to see the similarities.
Misterbee, this is evidenced by the CIC of the Keyboard Warrior Brigade who mentions these types in # 28. The troll has made my point.
my bad..
sorry
Looks like our seagull swooped in and struck.
I suppose I am to gleem that “Change” and “Hope” is somehow related to the words coming out of the mouths of the very people who have Molded, B. Hussein’s Social & Intellectual personna.
If that is the case…where to I sign up for “NO THANKS”.
Yes, but this doesn’t mean that Obama subscribes to the same belief system.
Sure, the man has spent 20 years swimming in this cesspool of rascist hatred. Yes, he took his marriage vows there. OK, he presented his daughters to whatever deity this group considers their own. And, I agree, he has quoted from some of the “Spiritual Advisors and Mentors” he had there, once or twice. Like the title of his book.
But THAT DOESN’T MEAN HE BELIEVES IT.
Obama’s not a rascist from being part of this church any more than Robby Byrd is a rascist for being part of the KKK.
You people just don’t get it…
RobM1981,
You forgot the sarcasm tag… please tell me you aren’t serious.
It’s “churches” like this that are at the root of the persistence of the greatest killing machine of black people in the history of America – the urban ghetto. Deep down they welcome the death, violence, and social pathologies because through the exploitation of white guilt, black demagogues retain their power. Sadly, this is with the wide support of American blacks. And I see no end in sight.
I have to wonder how many of these so called preachers spew there hate speech on a weekly basis ? and how many people sit and listen to them ? but yet it all comes back to the white man keeping them down…yea right….
I’ve seen two world fairs and a goat roping contest but I have never met anyone who talks like these holy guys.
How does Obama find these turds?
There goes that deranged lgm again.
He only throws them under there if he absoluty has to.
They don’t think it’s necessary. They just look out for the whiteys in the pews.
Imagine Obama, Wright, and now Pfleger in unison singing…….
Flashback to a skit from Cee Bee Fo
I’m black ya’ll and I’m black ya’ll I’m blacker than black ciz I’m black ya’ll
(repeat)
You hit the nail on the head but missed some other points.
He’s also not a racist just because his book makes it sound that way, there just words. He’s not a racist just because Michelle is, there is no such thing as guild by association.
Most likely, all of them (in certain neighborhoods). Remember, black churches are common politicking points for Dems.
The church even passes around collection plates to collect donations for the campaign. I find that disgusting. Collection plates are for donations to the church.
It reminds me of the story of Jesus confronting the money changers at the temple. He turned over their tables and said they had no place doing business at the church. (My parents took this story to heart. They wouldn’t even let my sister sell Girl Scout cookies at church.)
If Jesus saw the plates going around in church for political donations, he’d definitely speak out against it. Then the congregation would call him a racist. (or maybe a Jew?)
marsouin,
I would be inclined to agree; however, the root cause is so much more widespread than these so-called churches. This hatred is being spewed in universities across this nation as well. We need only to look as far as Delaware University: here and here.
I’ve posted on many occasion about a former friend who extolled that I needed to take an African American studies course… because apparently I failed to effectively portray that victim mentality. I hear you but to lay this at the feet of black churches is only scratching the surface. Liberals have a monopoly on keeping inner city blacks right where they are and unfortunately, they have embraced it as part of the “culture.”
I used to be willing to accept at least for sake of argument that the people in Obama’s camp were not necessarily a reflection of the man himself.
No more. Too many assorted skeletons keep tumbling out of the closet. The conclusion is unavoidable that he’s surrounded by anti-Americans, anti-Israelis, racists, terrorists and criminals because he shares common ground with who they are and what they believe.
If any other candidate had a steady procession of screaming bigots keep popping up from his past and present — e.g., “You mean another Klansman is supporting this guy?!?” — he’d have been toast long before now.
If Obama really believes his own propaganda about being someone who’s going to “change the tone” in Washington, he could start by foresaking the racist double-standard that’s the only thing keeping his campaign alive.
Suffice it to say that I’m not holding my breath.
Michelle, I know this was about “men of bad faith”, but you could also include Rezco, Ayres and his relationship to the Acorn group of Chicago, which hasn’t been discussed much, yet. When people start looking at this entire group I hope they will wake up!
I see where CNN is running a program called “Being Black In America” Supposed to help whitey understand what it’s like to be black.
I for one really don’t care, I think some white people, though,have been guilty (not like toilet paper RaisedRight) of pandering to their feelings of victimization. I personally could care less.
– lgm
You’re a day late. I predicted your equivalence quote yesterday.
Here’s the big difference (already posted by ajmontana):
“These people are part of who I am”
When you can explain Obama’s shifting position on Wright, then we can talk about Hagee. Until then, you’ve got nothing relevant to say.
and the bulk of america snoozes on.
America the Great, no more.
I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them,” Pfleger said.
Can Obama supporters please explain how it is that Obama’s associates continuously spew racist, anti-American bile from their hearts, only to follow up their true feelings with false apologies in an attempt to sweep their true feelings under the rug?
These are going to be awesome TV commercials for McCain to use against Obama.
That is….if Obama escapes the upcoming riots, tires burning and cars flipping at the Democrat Convention in Denver in August (thanks to Hillary and Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos).
Sitting in a bar all does mean I am an alcoholic.
Living in a crack house does not make me a crack head.
And certainly going to KKK rallies does not mean I am a racist. There are a few bad eggs but I just go for the companionship.
Is that clear?
It’s becoming harder and harder to discount the influence of these “friends” on Senator Obama.
Hopefully, if the Dems can manage to end their circus this weekend and IF it’s Obama who is chosen, THEN he can actually be questioned on this issue.
Or would that be “racist”?
Yashmak…………. LGM NEVER has anything relevant to say. Hes a stoner !
you are still the perfect example of someone who can’t even teach, has to troll websites..
Good morning lgm, I see you are wrong first thing this morning. Consistency is a virtue I guess. And for the adults…
Michael “There’s a black man stealing my show!” Pfleger, Jeremiah “God damn America!” Wright are merely two of the louder voices of the Black Grievance/White Guilt cult that is trying to start a race war in this country. These rants are not limited to Obama’s Church or even to Chicago. Listen to Comrade Maxine Waters in the last few days? Any of the Black Caucus in Congress? Literally hundreds of black churches in this country?
These people do not want to make things better, they want to cause resentment and anger. Bitterness is their only asset. And these screaming idiots will not be able to control the firestorm they start. And we are being told that if Obama loses his supporters might riot. These people WANT riots. Every major race riot of the second half of the twentieth century has resulted in millions of federal dollars flowing into the Black Grievance Cult.
Again, good morning lgm.
#59 correction
Sitting in a bar all day does not mean I am an alcoholic.
(Sorry, I got to the bar early today)
From Kurtz’ piece:
This guy is a neo marxist freak that will be exposed further as the year goes on. My concern is that someone like him got as far as he did, albeit with treasonous media and political support. It is a tragedy that a large part of the voting population is buying this pig-in-a-poke. I suppose it is a testament to the effectiveness of the marxist/communist 60-year campaign to destabilize America. They did a great job in education, government, and the organs of media, and are on the cusp of conquest. Pity the “Republicans” don’t have a real conservative to oppose this latest marxist cult figure. Get ready for a Bataan Death March.
It should easy for Obama to diffuse this situation. All he has to do is produce a speaker from his church that doesn’t spew racial hatred…crickets chirping.
Makes you wonder if his first act as president would be to change the name of the “White” House.
Perhaps lgm would like to explain as well, the $100,000 earmark for Pfleger’s church Obama got written into legislation (NY Times article 5/11/08)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/us/politics/11chicago.html?_r=2&pagewanted=4&sq=Michael%20Pfleger%20&st=nyt&scp=2&oref=slogin
It’s simply not believeable that when he did this, he had no idea what sorts of things Pfleger was saying, given how easy it is for anyone who looks to discover this. . .it’s simply not possible to credibly paint that picture.
What’s really sick is the look of glee on the faces of the congregation, and on his mentor Wright’s face, as Moss spews his venom. They look like adolescents who are getting away with saying bad words.
Still waiting for that videotape that shows a different, more Christian, sermon from this “church.”
North Carolina-looks like THE place to live.
NC has a Congress member with a SPINE:Sue Myrick.
I wonder if B Hussein Obama knows Abdurahman Alanoudi? (He’s in jail for $$ laundering) H. Clinton does. Do Ayers and Farrakahn (sp) Wright -Pfleger and Meeks know him too?
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/05/sue-myrick-wants-to-wake-up-america.html#readfurther
And, here we have it, straight from the peanut gallery.
Pat…….I really don’t think there are any different tapes of these fools at work.
As a fifth (and you need to drink a fifth if you intend to listen to him for any amount of time) is Louis Farrakhan, who in a Democratic debate Obama both “denounced” AND “rejected”, yet for twenty years went to (and still goes to?!) a church which holds Farrakhan in a place of high honor.
Sue Myrick rocks and so does NC!
Barry, is that really our resident troll/pot head ?
JSR
Go to a “Family Oriented Picnic” that turns out to be a KKK Rally, you thank your hosts, you leave, and you’re off the hook.
Return to another “Family Picnic” and you’re one of them, it’s that simple.
If Obama heard the spewings of Wright and Phleger, he had the opportunity to walk away and not look back. Does Barack subcribe to their hate? Possibly not, Michelle O has obviously been influenced by them, and Barry sure as hell cant disown her.
How ironic for this Otis kid from Trinity to be preaching the symbolism of Moses leading his people out exile and into the promised land.
Even after the past 40 years of social experimentation, and trillions of dollars in every conceivable form of monetary transference, the numbers show that the same numbers of “Urban” Americans (sometimes more) are stuck in a downward spiral of poverty and self-imposed exile.
It’s one thing to be ever hopeful, but after 40 years of exponential growth in hand-outs with negative growth results, this American just scratches his head when he sees irrelevant and misguided performances like in those youtube clips above.
I can still hear Edward G. Robinson saying, “where’s your Moses now?”
I am fed up with this garbage of blaming whites and I’m not going to take it anymore. I see what goes on in Africa to this day I suppose that’s white peoples fault huh? I remember when these same types told me that South Africa would be a paradise if we just got rid of whites, well they did and it’s no paradise more like hell on earth. They got rid of the white farmer in Zimbabwe, he was a teeny tiny minority feeding the majority but that was too much to bear. I see no difference in many blacks whether they are in America or Africa same thing different continent. Look people the fact is that we, (whites) were taught that this kind of thinking is self destructive by our parents and ministers and its nothing new either. The other fact is if we had thought like this centuries ago we would not have had the success we have experienced we wouldn’t be where we are today. You think we would have had the success that we have had if we had gone around blaming others for all the problems we whites have encountered over the centuries? Look at Chicago the violence and crime is worse than in Al Capone’s day for cryin out loud, now look at Africa, nuff said. And some people wonder why we don’t want anything to do with these types, sheesh, it’s a no-brainer.
Yep. That would be lgm, spo-con.
He used to have that link from the lgm moniker he uses but removed it a few months ago.
For crying out loud, how many on here, would be sitting on a bridge for 3 days waiting for a bus?
Need I say anymore?
Let’s not forget Obama has a close confidante in Rashid Khalidi. This is a radical Palestinian professor who heads the wildly antiIsrael Columbia University School of Middle East Studies. Any search of google and other search engines will reveal just how radically antiIsrael Professor Khalidi is. Because he is Palestinian and claims the mantle of “victim”, the MSM worships Khalidi. The MSM will never report on Khalidi’s antiIsrael views or his close ties to Khalidi.
The stack of “close spiritual advisers” Obama has to become “dissappointed in” keeps getting taller and taller.
Twenty years going to this church and he’s never heard any of this garbage? You’re freaking kidding me!
The term “tarbaby” in it’s original form is starting to stick here, and Br’er Obama has got to be wishing to find a Briarpatch.
check this out.
link to article for above quote
Apparently this type of speech is nothing new to this church.
Maybe Obama should have quit this church in outrage years ago or better yet, preached his “unity” message to his own church. How can anyone take his unity message seriously on the campaign trail after all of this?
LGM looks just like every post-post-post graduate student at Eastern WA. College. You know, the ones that never seem to have a job.
I believe this is the e-mail for questions/comments/reporting to the IRS for non-profits, including churches, violating the restrictions for injecting themselves into politics
tege.eo.compliance@irs.gov
I wasn’t really surprised, the first time I saw his picture. His beliefs and the way he conducts himself fits with what I saw.
#86…….Hes got the whole uniform, John Lennon glasses, stud earring, throat beard. Complete with THC stains………..
Speaking of Sue Myrick, she is also proposing legislation to drill for oil off the Carolina coast.
http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/2962169/
Sorry, 87 oops