Greatest hits: All of Barack Obama’s men of bad faith; Update: Chicago archdiocese spanks Pfleger
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Here’s a handy little video guide to Barack Obama’s various men of bad faith–a quick blog cheat sheet with all the poison preachers in one place, each accompanied by a trademark demagogic YouTube clip, for easy reference and ranked in order of unhingedness. It’s getting crowded in the crazy uncle attic, sweetie.
4. Current Trinity pastor and N-word-spouting Ice Cube fan Otis “At war with the enemy” Moss, whom Obama refers to as a “wonderful young pastor:”
3. James Meeks.
“We don’t have slave masters. We got mayors. But they still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able, or to be educated.”
“You got some preachers that are house niggers. You got some elected officials that are house niggers. And rather than them trying to break this up, they gonna fight you to protect this white man.”
2. Embarrassment to the Catholic Church Michael “There’s a black man stealing my show!” Pfleger.
1. And the one and only Jeremiah “God damn America!” Wright, with thanks to the North Carolina GOP for defying the McCain camp and spreading the word:
See also Stanley Kurtz’s probe of Wright’s Trumpet.
How many more?
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Update: Catholics rise up against Rev. Pfleger.
Update: The Chicago Archdiocese issues a statement condemning Pfleger from Cardinal Francis George:
“Racial issues are both political and moral and are also highly charged. Words can be differently interpreted, but Fr. Pfleger’s remarks about Senator Clinton are both partisan and amount to a personal attack. I regret that deeply.
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Blind Mule, thanks for the laugh!
10:42 am, Pat #68
I find the congregations unhinged enthusiasm frightening; my gawd, children are subject to this.
Wonder if Barak and his wife cheered, patted backs and laughed at these racist sermons.
They rail as if Africans are still making money selling slaves.
To what end are they striving, what are they trying to accomplish longterm with this holee hatred?
If you watch the video of this “priest” making the statements he apologized for later and for which Obama said he disagreed….
EVERY PERSON IN THE CHURCH AUDIENCE WAS ON THEIR FEET, APPLAUDING WHAT THIS “PRIEST” SAID IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT.
So how is it that Obama is the only member of that church who disagrees with what its pastors say?
#95- Thanks, I like that one better. Funny, his bong looks just like a club !
When did McCain sit in Hagee’s church?
He didn’t.
When did Obama sit in Wrights church?
FOR TWENTY YEARS.
And he heard nothing?
That’s funny.
Did it again. Sorry blind mule……….100
Blind mule, I think Fleger et al are slime. Having said that, why should the GOVERNMENT get his church’s money?
Seriously. What is wrong with Americans? Too many of us believe that the GOVERNMENT should decided what monies we get to keep.
Government doesn’t need any more money.
It wastes enough already.
dd, I’m sure Michelle Obama disagrees too.
They have a very slow learning curve.
20 years.
One word: yawn.
Apparently the GOP has no other talking points other than this. They realize that they won’t beat Obama on the issues, so they have to resort to calling him Muslim and looking at insignificant relations with his church.
Another 6 months… enjoy your time in the sun while you can!
These evil-spewing so called men of cloth or preachers are nothing but salespeople who understands their target market. They tailor their “sermons” or speeches to their audience who applauds and stands on their feet whenever they’re reminded that they are still victims of slavery. As long as this segment of society clings to that idea of victimhood, preachers or messengers will capitalized on it and continue to incite these group of people. Rev. Wright, Meeks, Sharpton, Jackson and etc.. are masters of this situation. Their personal assets are in millions, and not from earned income.
Meanwhile, Obama’s apologist and supporters are in cloud nine. It’s a political gambit, have Obama maintain ignorance of the speeches and profess some sort of apology, all for a free and unpaid political advertisement. Without shelling a penny, Obama is the focus of the public attention, and the MSM will highlight Obama’s “mea culpa” statement and make it a believable one.
Can anyone name a “UNIFYING” person that Obama is friends with.
Just one.
Seriously libtards name one.
Just one person who isn’t a race hustler, a poverty pimp, a socialist or a couple of DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. Just one person in Obama’s life that isn’t a freak or hasn’t been thrown under the bus.
Do you libtards think that Chris Matthews is still getting tingles up his leg (and wiener)?
I’ll wait.
ROFLMAO
Hang on to that one, BM. I suspect you will find plenty of other opportunities to use it!
Do I depict some residual glow that has been cast from the Obamessiah glistening here?
Obama doesn’t talk about “the issues”. He utters the words “hope” and “change”. His followers swoon, pass out. Now, that’s substance, huh?
“Insignificant relations with his church?” Oh! You mean the hate-filled diatribes from the pastors of Trinity and their guest pastors, like Wright, Moss, Pflegler, etc.? Yeah. I guess their hate speech is insignificant to those blinded by the glow.
JammieWearingFool said:
She might qualify as half sane.
Sorry. Darned fingers can’t keep up. Ugh.
Yano, I’d have more respect for you guys if you actually focused on the things that really matter in this country. What happened to talking about taxes, or Iraq, or illegal immigration? Why aren’t we talking about solutions to our energy crisis?
I’ll tell you why: because you are on the wrong side of the argument.
So instead, to distract voters from the issues that really matter, we go on talking about church and what did Michelle write on her thesis 20 years ago. Or even better, what Barrack wrote on a kindergarten essay.
Wake me up when we start to debate the things that really matter.
And just what, “Angry KneeGrow,” makes you so certain that most Americans have a greater hankering for socialism over freedom just now?!
Phhhhht.
Barry,
I read that tripe and truly didn’t know where to begin and then I vassilated about whether or not it was even worth responding. Your post; however, proved to me that even if I had… I’m still not worthy… that was just - fantabulistic!
What happened is that conservatives have been talking about exactly these things, among others, and fools like you go deaf and say, “distraction!”
He wants to raise our taxes, pull out of Iraq and illegal immigration - how comprehensive can it get?
Did I miss anything?
I don’t know if you are aware of this little tidbit or not but you are on a conservative website - not much Obie love here to begin with. Besides, who gets to determine what is worthy of discussion here, you?
Speaking of debates… when exactly is Obie going to actually participate in one?
Angry Kneegrow,
Your comment serves only to notify readers that like most other Obama supporters, you’re not paying attention. If you were, you wouldn’t be an Obama supporter. Even Hillary would be a better choice, because at least she has some leadership experience, even if it is still weaker than McCain’s.
It’s also shows the weakness of your position to ignore arguments against your candidate as insignificant, when obviously the candidate himself doesn’t think so. I mean, these guys were listed as part of his campaign. He tacked an earmark into legislation for one of them! Any rational person would understand this makes his relationship to these folks more than simply a loose association. At the very least, it merits a closer look.
We don’t have any difficulty taking a close look at McCain’s imperfections. In fact, many of us actively dislike the man (although I’m not one of those). It’s telling that while we can objectively look at our candidate in this manner, folks like you have so much difficulty looking at yours.
It’s kind of hard to talk issues when it comes to Obama, because his platform exists largely of catch-phrases. There’s little of substance to really critique. There’s the age-old cry of the left “Change!”. . .but a rational person knows that change for its own sake is as often bad as it is good. Gas prices rising is change. Is that a good thing? No. Yet, we see few on the left who seems to understand that.
Taxes? Let’s talk about the impact Obama’s ideas of universal health-care will have on taxes.
Illegal immigration? There’s little to talk about, since the Republican candidate’s views on the matter aren’t too different than Obama’s.
Energy crisis? Sure. Let’s talk. What, specifically, is Obama going to do to fix it? How much will it cost? What are the chances it will work? Obama has been very vague on these, and the media hands him only softball questions on the matter.
Iraq? Sure. Let’s talk. Let’s talk about how, since early in the campaign when Obama said he’d get them all out in short order after being elected, he has progressively backed off from that position, edging more towards the infinitely more pragmatic approach of the Republican candidate. . .
THIS makes sense. I fear though, that if you do one day wake up, you’ll realize that you voted a president into office with no experience, whose only talent is to appease those to whom appeasement is nothing more than an invitation to further actions against our nation, who will enact a health care program that will cripple our economy while providing a degraded level of care.
If you think that’s the ‘right side’ of the argument, you really are asleep.
Sorry. I wasn’t looking for your “respect”. I wasn’t even trying to sway your position. I was just pointing out your obvious bedazzlement with the Obamessiah.
You know, as circumstances would have it, we have been waiting to hear some serious discourse on taxes, Iraq and illegal immigration this presidential campaign season. Let’s see, Obama is proposing several “hope” and “change” initiatives, like socialized healthcare, that will balloon taxes. He is ready to surrender in Iraq. And, he is for rewarding illegal immigrants that have violated our nation’s sovereignty and laws to be here in the first place. Haven’t heard too much substance out of him on the “energy crisis”, except to get the government involved in it. I wouldn’t mind hearing him talk about domestic exploration for oil in contiguous 48 states, ANWAR and the Gulf or building more refineries to increase production capacity though. Do you have an inside track on anything like that from the Obamessiah’s mount?
Actually, I am more concerned with his corrupt affiliations in the Chicago, Cook County and Springfield political machine(s). His significant relationships with hate-spewing pastors (let’s use that term loosely, shall we?) is yet another look into the man that is the Obamessiah for you. There is no hope for “change”, as it would appear.
I’m not too worried about the Kindergarten essay nor am I losing too much sleep over the wannabe first lady’s papers, at this point. I am concerned with the audacity of his more recent books and her lack of pride in her country, until The Glow came to the show.
Have a nice nap, Rumplestiltskin. If you are waiting on the Obamessiah to come around to this, you might be out for a while and end up with bedsores.
I was pretty much just typing stream of consciousness, I think, 30. Thanks!
On May 30th, 2008 at 7:59 am, terrig said:
She’s not the only one. I’m so turned off by poisonous, hypocritical people like this that I haven’t been in a church in over three years. And my personal relationship with God is just fine… better than it ever has been, in fact. Because I don’t have other people defining my faith and interpreting Gods’ word for me.
I second that.
Our churches shame themselves before God when they whore out their pulpits to politicians.
Today’s topic is on Barack Hussein Obama’s close ties with raving and ranting preachers, his ties with terrorists who walk on the American Flag, and then brags how he got by with it, and his ties with a shady charactor who’s in a criminal trial. All of this reflects on the man’s charactor. The President has to be of good charactor, and in my humble opinion, his is weak to say the least. Several areas his charactor is weak in are his desire to weaken the country’s defensse, do a way with President Bush’s tax cuts; thereby raising your taxes, bankrupting the nation with socialized medicine,which will be disasterous for the people, and his desire to end the space program, leaving the country vulnerable to attacks from space by other countries.
The weakest part of his charactor is his quitting the war on terror by bringing the troops home by June, and asking the leader of Iran to sit down and talk as in “SUING FOR PEACE.” How grand that must make the terrorist feel. It’s no wonder Hamas wants him to win. May The Good Lord take a liking into us, if he does.
I was raised that you’re judged by the company you keep.
Angry Kneegrow,
Please wake up. I, and most conservatives, would be glad to debate the merits of increasing the size of the government, new spending programs without revenue sources, solving our energy problems with renewable energy, or how Obama is going to create 5 million green jobs, or even where this number 5 million comes from. However we get absolutely no specifics. Typical from his website:
What does this mean other than creating another costly government program? How would something like this work, and why would anybody think the government knows better how to modernize a factory than the owners and independent trade associations?
Another:
Ever buy a home? There are plenty of mandatory disclosures that must be signed off on, and information on anything a borrower wants to know is readily availble on the internet. Anybody that doesn’t undersatnd what they are getting into is either lazy, does not care, illiterate, or all three. Another government program will not solve this problem.
I could go on as there are dozens of examples on his website. I have even tried to talk to Obama supporters about his policies but they can’t seem to come up with anything beside hope, change, and Bush rants. We all would welcome a debate (care to try with the above examples?) but it is impossible because feel-good vague ideas are completely vacuous and supporters unable to even define what they are. Please prove me wrong.
Obama couldn’t lead a one man parade.
He’s an empty suit with big ears. He’s done nothing with his life. Like most LIBTARDS he is a ward of the Government.
Nearly every LIBTARD alive has not gotten anything in life without someone else having to sacrifice for them.
Libs love the government, because they don’t have the brains or skills to achieve on their own. When the Alec Baldwins of the world become millionaires by “acting”, they suddenly become Phi Beta Kappa’s. Libtards need the government for their very existance.
More government means more libtards.
How are blacks doing 43 years after the civil rights act was signed? Failing?
Angry?? Racist. Yes yes and yes.
And what does Michelle and Jesus Obama tell us. More government will save you.
More government is what we got. More black failure is what we reaped.
Libtards are far too in NEED of government to see the truth. Libtards live with the mentality that GOVERNMENT is the solution to their problems. In most cases LIBTARDS cannot function without GOVERNMENT.
I can.
Libtards can’t.
How come the Catholics don’t just remove Pfleger and be done with him?
A wonderful book on the topic of “hope” and “change” (not directly about the “men of bad faith” in the title…):
“The True Believer” by Eric Hoffer, c. 1951(!)
Can we throw Pastor Manning on that list too?
Ok… I just left a voice mail message regarding the Cardinal’s very disappointing discipline of Pfleger. I left my name and phone # to let His Excellency call and we can discuss this. I am not holding my breath, but miracles do happen
love2rumba,
I wish it were that simple. As my husband always stated to me (when I was a cafeteria catholic) “The Catholic Church is a hierarchy, NOT a democracy”. Trust me there are steps involved that starts with the diocese then it goes up to the Vatican.
I think bombarding the Archdiocese lines with complaints, may give the Cardinal a clue. I left a heartfelt message on the voicemail as a Roman Catholic mother trying to raise two young children in the faith. Trust me, with the priest scandal, the shortage of GOOD nuns & priests, closing of GOOD Catholic schools has really challenged me in my faith. But I digress and continue to pray for sanity and for the Church.
Pfleger had a great opportunity to show how a man of faith, hard work and discipline and love of God could rise up to be a candidate for POTUS, most powerful office in the world. Instead he BLEW IT and ranted and raved about white folk, many who have done a lot more than Pfleger, Obama, Moss and assorted friends did to help people live and enjoy all God’s gift to the world. The Church has a powerful, beautiful message of justice….Too bad it wasn’t taught to these so-called “men of God”. (hate to call them men)
Listening to Pfleger it’s clear he is a vicious and hateful nutcase. Unless he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, then he’s just your run-of-the-mill lying liberal.
And listening to all these preachers - I hear little to nothing about God and Christ, unless you count “G-d d–n America!”
What’s the saying about being known by the company you keep? Obama has a lot of low-class and no-class company…
This is not spirituality at all.
It’s anger and political demagogery.
When I go to church we do a meditation, get quiet, think about God. We walk out more at one with everyone, more peaceful and happy.
I can’t imagine such “fruits” at this church.
Now, THAT is funny.
Longbow. Here is a short primer on LIBTARDS.
Pfleger has all his needs met. He does not have to PRODUCE nor ACHIEVE anything in order to keep his job. He is not required to meet any test of competence to eat or have shelter.
Libtards are socialists. Socialists believe that someone else is responsible for their personal needs. This is why LIBTARDS gravitate to professions that are not required to produce any tangible result or reach any goal. They pick safe insulated jobs that don’t require them to succeed in any measurable way.
Then they pontificate their goofy “theories” that they are never held to account for.
Think about it. 90% PLUS of LIBTARDS are dependant.
Soliel.
Fill in the blank here.
“This is not the _______ that I knew.”
Rev Wright
Rev Moss
Rev Pfleger
William Ayers
Bernadine Dohrn
Tony Rezko
The men of Obama: scurrilous, rabid and slimy.
From the MORE link at the bottom of this MM posting:
Left-leaning? Left-leaning? If Pfleger is only leaning left, who in world would actually be considered a bona fide leftist?
Geez.
OMG, really??? You mean you guys aren’t Democrats? Who knew?!?
I’ve been here for a while, but Michelle didn’t have registration on so I couldn’t post. I know that most of you guys hate McCain, as well you should. He does not stand for the things that Republicans stand for - small government, fiscal responsibility, etc. On that same token, Obama is far from perfect as well. But then again, has there ever been a “perfect candidate”?
No, Ronald Reagan doesn’t count, lol.
Oh, and for the record… I never called Obama the Messiah or whatever. He has issues just like McCain. I’m not a left wing radical - I’m actually more toward the center. But you’ll find that out soon enough as I make my presence known here, heh….
I agree, he’s gonna have to define his platform and stance on issues more clearly as the campaign goes along. But you have to admit - being vague actually helped him. Take that gas holiday nonsense. While McCain and HillBilly proposed the gas tax holiday, all BO did was challenge it and say it was a bad idea.
But, you never heard him say what *his* plan was. And the American public ate it up, realized Hillary and McCain were pandering, and never questioned Obama about his strategy.
Genius? Perhaps.
We of the Church of Typical White Persons Holiness “Regret the words we chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Typical White Persons life and message, and we are deeply sorry if they offended Liars, Charlatans and Frauds such as Jerry GD AmeriKKKa Wright, Pfleger the Phony or any of the rest of these lying race hustlers.
Go ahead and throw we Typical White Persons under the bus Bro Hussein. For 120 years before YOUR BLACK FATHER abandoned you bad things happened to black people you who are no relation to you. So Yes sir Bro Hussein, shuck and jive, stir the racial fires. That will bring us unity.
Sincerly
Church of Typical White Persons Holiness
Sorry, an Ivy-educated black man is running for President. The days of victimhood are officially over. In today’s America, you can make of your life what you will.
Let’s face it — this screwball priest wasn’t really slapped by the Church at all; a statement like this carries no impact. He is still a priest, and he has not been removed from his congregation, which should have been done decades ago. Short of measures like this, the Church is really giving him a green light to do and say whatever he wants.
They are RACIST They are no better than the KKK. They should be called what they are RACIST.
They say it wherever, whenever they want with no qualms. Watch the audience; they are eating it up. No one in that audience is critical of him.
There’s ghouls in the pulpit.
It’s a reverse skinhead rally with these fakes. Preaching should be all about Jesus Christ and how we are united in Him not this crap. In Christ there is no black and white, just redeemed.
Hello — H e l l o - H E L L O !
A C L U …………..
Where ARE YOU……
501 c 3 ….TALK tp ME…
IRS…give us your BEST…..
OOOOO…it all ryhmes (-:
Victor Davis Hanson — once a wise, conservative commentator — has jumped the shark on this Pfleger thing, parsing it crazily so as to make some subtle point that satisfies his need always to posture himself as a thoughtful intellectual.
Posting over on NRO, Hanson begins his thoughts as follows:
What a pantload! These relationships of Obama’s are but anything “tenuous.” And, yes, Obama’s long and close relationship with outspoken race baiters and supporters of Louis Farrakhan is a HUGE problem.
“Eternal problem,” you say, Hanson? What planet are you on, professor? Pflager has barely gotten back home from making the remarks that occasioned your commentary here. This is not, sir, from the eternal by-and-by.
You have twisted the problem that Obama has with these people out of all recognition so that you can enlighten us with your own idiosyncratic reframing of the situation. Sir, you have spent too much time in the classroom where a respectful audience makes careful notes on whatever drivel you have for the day’s performance.
501 C 3 TALK TO ME…
I really pity Pfleger’s children. Poor guys. This can’t be good for them.
Sooner or later we have to address which is worse.
The single racist behind the pulpit.
Or the 10,000 racist lapdogs in the audience.
I have just done the same. And emailed my cousin (a Maronite priest) at the Vatican begging for some sort of action or pressure on Francis Cardinal George, Archbishop of Chicago to remove this stain on the Church.
Once again, great MM. So given all you know about Barry, any conclusions? Is he or isn’t he a racist?
Fr. Pfleger doesn’t need to be spanked. He needs to be relocated to a jungle somewhere. Let him rant and rave to the hyenas.
I don’t even know what to say. Mental illness is my only explanation. I do enjoy the requisite “can’t sit in my seat agreeing so much - acrobatics” behind the jackass of the moment. The desire for their 15 minutes of fame sabotages their closest chance to see one of their own in the position of Commander-in-Chief. As if that would solve their problems.
PS. 401K is White entitlement? Please STFU.
“I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them,” Pfleger said.
I have heard people on TV tonight talk about Pfleger having apologised for what he said and I haven’t heard him apologise yet for what he said. Only that he was sorry if his words offended anyone.
What’s interesting to me is that all of the years that I’ve been going to church my Pastor has wasted it all on talking about God and the bible. I mean, he never took the time to talk about what really matters, like, how us white devils are spending all of our time keeping the black man down. I’ve been missing what really matters! All I’ve learned is stuff about Jesus and how to live my life to honor God. What a bummer.
Does anyone else remember that about 10 years ago, some conservative groups (think tanks, publications, etc.) accused the Clinton administration’s IRS of bias? They claimed conservative groups were being disproportionately targeted for audits and questioned the timing of the audits. (It seemed many of the audits happened shortly after the group criticized a Clinton administration policy.)
Ya know, it would almost be worth a Hillary presidency to see how long it would be before the IRS showed up at these churches.
So, apparently, the only reason Obama won his election to the IL State Senate was because he got all of his opponents disqualified, including one because some of the signatures that got her onto the ballot weren’t in cursive. “Count every vote” my ass.
Couple that with the fact that he only had to beat Alan Keyes in ‘03 and Obama’s never had to fight in an election before.
To make a long story very short:
Today’s leftism = racism against whites.
Spread this simple word.
Cc.
The underlying theme is that Blacks have been oppressed in this country and this country must pay for that. Consider for a moment if Slavery had never happened. A very large portion of black people would still be in Africa and still be oppressed. The US would have suffered economically from the lack of contrabutions of slaves and free black people alike. The economy may have a smaller economy that is current. We would not have fought the Civil War which cost over 600,000 lives.
Doug - Here’s a penny for your trouble…and troubles…now go peddle them on another corner.
Paid in full.
Heh.
Doug, stuff it, I owe the Obama’s nothing, I owe black people nothing. Why don’t you go back and try to figure out who owned slaves and get with those folks. BTW there was a bit more to the Civil War than just slavery so you might want to do some research on that (not on wikipedia of course) and get back to us. Finally by all means, pay them out of your own money if this is so important to you that you had to bold it.
I am just wondering if someone can find a person previously or presently associated with BO, religious, political, personal, ANYONE who is a fine upstanding citizen, not racist, not elitist, not Marxist, not horrifying? *crickets*
That IS the payment, Doug.
It’s the black
KKK
But, unlike you dumb white folk out in the field covering yourselves with sheets, we meet in “Church” on Sundays, and Tuesdays for bingo and Wednesday night mid-week service, so our conscience is assuaged before God and man, and the law can’t touch us.
Silly rabbit.
I’m noticing the same thing. Does he even know anybody, oh I don’t know, NORMAL??? The Dhimmis could not have done worse this election cycle. They were SO eager for a black trophy candidate that they jumped the gun with this guy. The clinical term is “premature O-adulation.”
Pfleger is Vanilla Ice as a preacher with a Dennis the Menace dad hair cut. He is mocking those black people in the pews and they eat it up. The problem is that Obama’s rap as a pretend politician is no better.
Some great videos mocking Pfleger. Al Jolson to Vanilla Ice.
http://conservativeshrug.blogspot.com/2008/05/stop-collaborate-and-listen.html
Are you so blinded by your liberalism that you can’t even see this as a problem that extends beyond party lines?
All of these guys are equally dangerous, and all the more so the ones that have held presidential candidates in a spell for twenty years, consider them as personal spiritual advisers, and contribute huge sums of money to their propaganda mills, I mean, churches.
McCain and Bush may have the support of some of these crackpots, but only Obama supports one of them, spiritually, financially, and, apparently, intellectually.
Now THAT’S a problem.
Big difference. Obama makes sure his crazy preacher friends are well paid. Did I miss Hagee or Robertson at McCain’s wedding? Anyway, you goofs spent the last 20 years demonizing the right over some of the religious leaders in the party and when the light is shed on your knuckleheads you scream how unfair it all is.
On May 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, Soliel said:
I couldn’t agree with you more, Soliel. Church is a place for us to come together and relinquish our burdens - it is not a place to pick up new ones.
Those who have chosen the Messiah Jesus Obama have no intention of excommunicating themselves from him.
It doesn’t matter whom, Jesus Obama has personally picked to be pals with. It doesn’t matter that Obama is friends with TERRORISTS…….LITERALLY.
It doesn’t matter that Obama’s next act of leadership will be his first.
It doesn’t matter that Jesus Obama has no record of legislative accomplishment or any kind of principled record of achievement.
He is a black man. That satisfies 2 of the larger LIBTARD constituencies and their value systems.
1)Blacks. I’m sorry friends, but blacks have more RACIST baggage than whites. You can rationalize it, but you can’t deny it.
2)Guilty white LIBTARDS, believe that voting for a black man gives their GUILTY CONSCIENCES ABSOLUTION.
The MSM by and large falls into category 2.
Perhaps the most important point in Kurtz’ NRO article is found at the end:
Kurtz writes:
Obama is McGovern, but thoroughly dishonest about it, camouflaging his true nature with reasonable-sounding rhetoric and charm.
DBNinKY, i could dissagree to church being a place to relinqueish our burdens. In fact, the church is a place to meet and present a game plan of sharing the Gospel to those that need it. THAT is the burden of going to church. Christ will lighten our burdens, the church does nothing of the sort. That South Side chicago church is nothing more than a social club spewing the hatred intrinsic with black liberation theology. Wright pressed on during the Fox interview “Have you read Cone, have you read Cone”. O’Reilly should have responded, “Yes, and Cone is an a**hole” who purpotes hatred and separation”. Without hatred, percieved persecution of white on black,and a separation of the races, Wright, Farrakon, Pfleger and their minion would be out of business. There will be no end to this, ever.
Obama is benefiting by a cult of personality that is being carefully crafted by the mainstream media.
They definitely like him because he appears black (even though he is mixed race). However, that is not his primary qualification for liberal adoration. The very fact that he won’t salute the flag, that he has terrorist friends, that he goes to an anti-white, racist church, that he hates the military, hates his white relatives, and that he is a democrat are the real reasons why they like him.
Black men and women have attained high status in both government and the private sector. Almost all have been ridiculed by the same bunch who are proclaiming BO the black messiah.
I pray there are enough sane people to see through this sham. Else, this country is finished.
And the congregation eats it up.
This is what bothers me the most about these stories.
A church is not just a pastor. It doesn’t consist solely of Sunday Morning sermons. A church is a fellowship, a community, a family. And usually that community becomes and remains a community because of a shared set of values.
Now I don’t know *wink* if Obama ever saw Wright or Pfleger spew their hatered, but every time we see one of these video clips the congregation is lapping it up, they’re loving it, they’re clapping and shouting, they’re cheering on the hatered and the anger. And these are people that Obama chose to associate with, to have teach his kid’s Sunday School, to go to potlucks with (I assume he brought the arugula), to sit next to in church. This is the family that he chose to be a part of. I’m sure that there are many other black churches in Chicago that he could have chosen from, but he picked this one.
Like I said, I don’t know if Obama ever saw these sermons, but the people whom he chose to call “brother” and “sister” most assuredly did, and they not only agreed, they loved it.
Why do the blacks hate us?
Interesting you should say that…I have always taken people for who they are, not what they are, and have never been bigoted, and do not associate with bigots… but ever since the Wright circus came to town, I look at every black person I come across and wonder if they hate me because I am white. Truly sad how they have turned back race relations in this country at least 50 years.
Dj, it’s ironic that the RODHAMS of our world…..LIBTARDS…have PANDERED to and SUCKED up to BLACKS since ‘64, and now have found that all this WHITE GUILT and GRIEVANCE CULTURE has taken root.
The LIBTARD left has consistently told blacks that they are the victims of WHITES and WHITE SOCIETY/GOVERNMENT.
And SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE, Michelle Obama bought what they were selling. And Wrights “faithful” cheer hate speech.
Becareful what you wish for Rodham.
Our Democrat politicians have created their own monster.
Man, what a great question. I wonder if any of it is tied to Katrina. That became such a black vs white issue with many blacks feeling like they were abandoned. I wonder if the resentment grew from there. It seems worse than it has been in a long time. Maybe it has always been this way and we didn’t see it until Obama’s relationship with Wright brought it into the spotlight. Makes me sad.
# 183 WDBHU?
It’s a LOT easier to be a victim and have BIG DADDY
government or the
Farrakhan (sp)- like- Nation of Islam -or LA RAZA-or
ACLU - or
PLANNED PARENTHOOD and et. al. to take care of you.
By the way—the victims ALWAYS know how to work the system and take your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (TAXES) and mine.
It’s not, “Why do blacks hate us?”. That implies that all blacks hate us, which isn’t true. There are probably far more blacks who don’t hate us. I have known many black people, who work hard and take care of themselves far more than those that don’t. Most make fine neighbors and co-workers. The ones polluted with hatred are the ones who, obviously, make the news. Inner city kids are taught from a very early age that all problems are unsolvable, and not worth fixing, unless the government can do it. Politicians constantly harp, for their own motives, that they cannot achieve anything. Some make it out of the doldrums. It wasn’t that way once. I know many elderly black people who talk of the “old days”. The black neighborhood was safer than the white neighborhood, and people took care of each other. With civil rights, the politicians came out and wrecked the communities, for their own power/money gain. There are still many black people I admire and enjoy their company. They don’t need the hatred that is spewed forth from the pulpit every Sunday, or the MSM front page, every day.
No…Now, stop wondering. Blacks look for any excuse to feel slighted by whites!
Black people have been carrying a grudge for frickin’ ever. Long before Katrina. All Katrina did was give the mainstream media a chance to do their usual race baiting, and mountain building from tiny little mole hills…
Bureaucratic incompetence is nothing but bureaucratic incompetence. There is no racial component. Unless of course, liberals, racial hate groups, and race based politicians see a chance to make something up out of whole cloth and then beat the race drums!
#187 to clarify:
The likes of La Raza- Planned Parenthood- Nation of Islam-CAIR- and et.al. get gvt ($$$ tax $$$- your and my $$$) entitlements thanks to our PORK SPENDING –VOTE BUYING -gvt. officials.
Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s I strongly supported the civil rights movement. Over the past 3 decades I have seen racism go from the mainstream to the closet where it belongs. It is simply not socially acceptable as it once was to be prejudiced.
Having said this, it is sad to see what has happened to the black community. Once released from the darkness of prejudice to fairly compete in the marketplace with everybody else, educationally, and socially; the black community has shamefully retreated into mindless blaming of whites for all of the self-imposed ills of that community. Ive a question for the black community: how come we dont hear from the Asian community or the Hindu community about “white entitlement”? Hint: the answer has something to do with self-discipline; education, and work ethic.
Graysonret, most of society has been conditioned for SOOOOO LONG to excuse the Wright/Moss/Pfleger type behavior by saying……MOST XYZ DON’T DO THIS.
It might be wise to look at the video and see how big the Congregation is, and while we’re at it, ask ourselves why more than 90% of blacks have jumped on the Obama bandwagon. Even a large section of ELITIST/EDUCRAT types whites are true believers in WHITE SOCIETY BEING EVIL. It’s not a tiny fringe, and it’s time we REALLY started talking honestly and openly about race, and it’s time we stopped patting blacks on the head.
Libocrat: We have been talking about race and it has been a one way conversation with blacks lecturing whites about past grievances. It’s time to stop talking because it is fallacious to say that openess about race will cure racism. Nope I have had about enough “openess” from the black community that has just about convinced me that there isnt a black person out there that doesnt either despise, or at the very least resent white people; and for no reason that I can see. And my predictable response has been to turn off completely to that type of BS. Though I am now cordial with many black people, I always now have that in the back of my mind. Do blacks really want to hear about how whites feel about racism, BOTH white and black??? I highly doubt it. Enough of the talk already…its time to get over it, shut up and fix your own community without blaming caucasions, the vast majority of whom are good hard working non-racist people that are too busy trying to live their lives, than to care less about whining race baiting people, and the victim mentality set that they preach to.
If you are familiar with Rev. James Cone’s and Rev. Jerry Wright’s Black Liberation Theology ,BLT, then you are not surprised by these statements. If you are not familiar with Black Liberation Theology it would behoove you to get familiar real fast. It is a whole lot more than Just Blame Whitey. To a large extant the BLT of Rev. James Cone is the foundation of the Marxist Liberation Theology that plunged much of Latin America into civil war. Killing people for the sake of killing became an end in itself.
So do a quick Web search on Black Liberation Theology and then ponder these statements of Senator Obama from his book Dreams of
My Father
1)”I found a solace in nursing a
pervasive sense of grievance and
animosity against my mother’s race.”
2)”It remained necessary to prove
which side you were on, to show your
loyalty to the black masses,
to strike out and name names.”
That from the Great Unifier, He who take will take us where we do not want to go (Michelle Obama). These are not the words of cynicism–these are the words a of a True Believer.
These servants of the antichrist, Pfleger and Wright, may well irritate us. But perhaps they do a service for those who will hear, those who will see.
We are most certainly in for a Hell of a fight.
From Audacity of
Hope: “I
will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an
ugly
direction.”
He writes books.
I just wrote a letter to the Cardinal today. I’m hoping that many many more will do the same with calls and letters. I don’t know what the Cardinal is afraid of. Pleger should have been out years ago. He is not a priest in my eyes. He is an anti-white circus ringleader.
Wow! I was hoping that the church would come down on him. But I wasn’t expecting the Spanish Inquisition.
Obama programs are a perfect analogy to that other great governmental idea of using ethanol as fuel: it takes more energy to produce the fuel than you get in the end (no pun intended), and it manages to take the food out of someone else’s mouth. It also just increases the cost of living for all of us. Except the government, of course.
“We’re here to help you….”
I saw on the news this morning that Senator Obama has quit Trinity Church. I expected that to happen sooner or later. Also there was a report of his tactics that were used to ensure his election to the state senate in Chicago.
Senator Obama is a product of the Chicago political machine. “Politics ain’t beanbag in Chicago.” was one of the quotes used. He should not be underestimated. He’s smart, tough, and ruthless.
Understand…I am NOT praising Senator Obama or his “ethics” but it would be foolish to lull ourselves into complacency by believing that his vagueness on real issues reflects any lack of intellect or political skill on his part.
What Trinity Church is saying on a regular basis is that it is “OK” - - no mandatory that it’s congregation live their lives judging people by the color of their skin - - not their actions.
Father Pfleger represents his church by saying and believing the same. Anyone who equivocates over this hate speech does not understand the English language and would NEVER allow for it in a predominantly ‘white’ church.
Over the past few years, we have watched as people’s professions were destroyed from saying what was perceived as ‘racist speech’. Where’s the outrage now?
Obama does not denounce the church and says so - - he says he resignation will alleviate the problems of Trinity. It is more than apparent that he agrees with this church and feels he must resign to protect it from the frenzy.