Breaking: Obama throws his entire church under the bus?!

By see-dubya  •  May 31, 2008 05:54 PM

Drew M. at Ace says he just saw it on CNN. I’ll look around for some info.

I guess he needed more time to plan that trip to Iran, huh?

YEP. UPDATE: CNN says Barry and Trinity are splitsville:

CNN is reporting this afternoon that Sen. Barack Obama is leaving Trinity United Church of Christ, his longtime religious home on Chicago’s South Side and a place that has triggered repeated controversies during his presidential bid.

Whew! It’s a good thing Obama got out in front of this controversy before it started to hurt him.

UPDATE: Here’s the YouTube of his press conference. I think he did this about as well as he could–the way he tells it, that gosh-darn press was harassing Trinity, so he’s trying to leave them in peace–but it’s still going to hurt him.

He sat in those pews for twenty years and was quite familiar with what goes on there. He benefited from that association as he rose in Illinois politics, but as he himself admits, Trinity’s radical, politicized preaching is now hurting his Presidential campaign. Business is business:

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  1. #338046
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:14 pm, Joy said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 6:32 pm, havok said:
    “I did not have religous relations with that church…Trinitiy United….”

    :lol:
    :lol:

  2. #338047
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:15 pm, terristeelmagnolia said:

    Mommieof2girls…

    My husband says the same thing…
    these next 4 years are going to be a
    N I G H T M A R E!!

    But he reminded me that it took a Carter to get a Reagan.

  3. #338048
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:18 pm, Joy said:

    Those leftys always say they are moving if the R wins… Alec Baldwin is still here… as are the rest of them who have threatened to move.

  4. #338051
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:25 pm, undrseige247 said:

    I think Obama should throw his own a$$ under the bus, damn communist drug addict.

  5. #338052
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:25 pm, globmgmt said:

    This Barry Hussein is one screwed up guy !

  6. #338059
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:41 pm, Mookie said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:25 pm, undrseige247 said:

    I think Obama should throw his own a$$ under the bus, damn communist drug addict.

    Drug addict? C’mon.

  7. #338062
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:51 pm, libocrat said:

    His CHILDREN were BAPTIZED….(such as a hateful bigot can Baptise a child)….at this Jeremiah Springer freak show!
    Jesus Obama and his “BITTER” wife Michelle “piano lessons” Obama had their CHILDREN BAPTIZED there.

    WHAT GIVES?

  8. #338063
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:53 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    If he agreed with the politics and “theology” at Trinity, why compromise himself now?? Isn’t what he believes more important than the presidency? Because if it wasn’t, then he wasted a lot of time believing in something that was not worth his time. Believe me, if I had to choose between what my religious beliefs were and the presidency, the presidency would have to be ditched.

    Get my point? Were obama’s religious beliefs not ever really important to him?

  9. #338066
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:54 pm, libocrat said:

    “I could no more renounce etc etc etc than I could LIE about AUCHWITZ and my UNCLE, errr, Great Uncle,………….”

    Any of you LIBTARDS getting the picture yet???

    Jesus Obama is a f234ing clown.

  10. #338067
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:55 pm, FruNobulux said:

    The man pretty much said “I’m quitting the church out of political expedience.” Not that the Marxist media will point that out.

    It’s been obvious to me from the start that Obama’s a fly-weight. But now. Now he’s starting to seem creepy, even by my fairly generous standards.

    Someone on this thread mentioned that the crocodile-woman looks good by comparison. Funny, I was just thinking that today. As much as it pains me, I’m going to have to vote McCain, out ot fear that staying home may be a vote for a thinly-disguised Communist.

  11. #338068
    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:58 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:15 pm, terristeelmagnolia said:

    But he reminded me that it took a Carter to get a Reagan.

    It’s grave mistake to bank on every Carter producing a Reagan. Recall that Clinton didn’t produce anything close to Reagan III. We just got Clinton II–hock ptooey. Obama/Carter II is just as likely to lead to Obama II/Carter III as it is to produce the next Reagan.

  12. #338069
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:00 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 10:55 pm, FruNobulux said:
    The man pretty much said “I’m quitting the church out of political expedience.”

    Funny that he’s quitting Trinity for the same reason he joined…political expedience.

  13. #338070
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:01 pm, libocrat said:

    Usually, people sit through 20 years of RACIST rants. AND DON’T NOTICE.
    Usually, a COLUMBIA GRAD…a PRINCETON GRAD, both with HARVARD J.D. law doctorates….can sit through TWENTY MOTHER FREAKING YEARS OF RACIST CRAP. TWENTY PLUS YEARS OF “BLACK AFRICAN SEPARATIST” RACIALLY HATEFUL SERMONS.
    ,…….
    ssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! And never notice a PEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.

    OK LIBS. Either you are RACIST PIGS or RETARDED.

    ????

  14. #338071
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:03 pm, GraniteMan said:

    The only change big O is going to bring about is that he will be the only president worse than Jimmy Carter and at the first little scowl from A’jad in Iran he will throw all of us under the bus. Pretty soon he will throw his campaign manager under the bus. He has one damn big bus.

  15. #338077
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:14 pm, libocrat said:

    QUESTION FOR THE MSM and LIBTARDS:

    When the VIDEO of Michelle “AFFIRMATIVE ACTION” OBAMA, the BITTER WIFE, who was required to pay back student loans while living in a $1,600.000.00 home, and recieved a $200,000.00 RAISE, AFTER, her husband JESUS OBAMA was elected to the Senate…..
    When VIDEO of MICHELLE BITTER OBAMA, speaking from the PULPIT of Wright/Moss’s church…..BECOMES PUBLIC……

    Is OBAMA already INNOCULATED by the MSM?
    Is CHRIS MATTHEWS going to get another HARD-ON??

    Just askin?

  16. #338081
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:25 pm, derel3433 said:

    Good thing we have such a strong Republican candidate to rally around this fall. We shouldn’t have any need to go negative and we’ll be able to keep the focus on the war, health care, and the economy.

  17. #338082
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:27 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    I almost feel sorry for Democrat primary voters. But others have had to make the same choice. So I don’t feel that bad. Suck it up Dems!

  18. #338083
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:32 pm, FIslam said:

    Got it. His strong faith in Jesus and association with his church of 20 years has been shaken by a bit of scrutiny by the media…

  19. #338085
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:34 pm, shooter said:

    NEXT ?!?!?!?!!

    When does Ayers go to court?

  20. #338086
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:37 pm, mattm said:

    This leads me to believe that a video of BHO in attendance at Trinity is around. If Wright was nutcase who BHO, supposedly, never heard is gone why does he feel the need lo leave now? Hmmmm.

  21. #338087
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:40 pm, PoliticalDookie said:

    I guess the next step is a divorce…

  22. #338088
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:45 pm, libocrat said:

    This is the candidate of UNITY.
    He gave a RACIALLY UNIFYING SPEECH!!!!

    Is Chris Matthews tingling still?

  23. #338089
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:49 pm, libocrat said:

    Who is his “Spiritual mentor” NOW?

    Rezko?

  24. #338090
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:49 pm, 29Victor said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:45 pm, libocrat said:
    This is the candidate of UNITY.

    Yes. But he is also the candidate of CHANGE.

    He’s willing to CHANGE friends, CHANGE church and CHANGE his views to UNIFY enough voters to get him into office.

    Unity through change.

  25. #338091
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:50 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    Now he can join a church his grandmother wont fear to enter.

  26. #338092
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:53 pm, shooter said:

    single stack – 7:49 pm,;

    I agree 100%

  27. #338095
    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:57 pm, Jim M. said:

    I wonder how long it is going to take before we hear that it was white oppression that made Obama leave the church? This will have a racist spin to it; it’s only a matter of time.

  28. #338098
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:09 am, libocrat said:

    So Jesus Obama and his “books” were about HIM and his SPIRITUAL MENTOR.
    Jeremiah Wright. J.Wright was supposed to be the man who brought JESUS OBAMA to JESUS.
    In FACT, OBAMA gave Jeremiah Wright credit in the FORWARD of OBAMA’S own book.

    IS ANYONE HERE THAT STUPID?? ANYONE??

  29. #338099
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:12 am, libocrat said:

    As Jesus Obama’s OWN pathetic failed decision making process becomes OBVIOUS, the LEFT and LIBTARDS continue to pretend not to notice, what a CLOWN….Obama is.

    SUCKERS!!!!

  30. #338102
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:29 am, Azygos said:

    PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS MAN TO BE OUR PRESIDENT.HE WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.

    We survived Carter we will survive this.

  31. #338103
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:29 am, Joy said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:03 pm, GraniteMan said:
    …first little scowl from A’jad in Iran he will throw all of us under the bus.

    Before or after he pees in his pullups?

  32. #338105
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:30 am, Jim M. said:

    Interesting. Obama notes that he, his wife and Moss had been discussing this for a few weeks now. Phleger, per the Obama campaign “left” the campaign a couple of weeks ago.

    So, Moss is well aware of Obama’s possible departure from Trinity. Phleger is aware that Obama denounced Wright for his racist antics. And Phleger is well aware of other members of the campaign being asked to leave. Yet Moss allows Phleger into the church where Phleger delivers an uninterrupted tirade, in Moss’ presence, filled with both racist and sexist comments.

    If Moss knew of Obama’s concerns, why allow Phleger in to deliver a Jeremiah Wright performance? And knowing that the press is present in the church, why doesn’t he attempt to stop him?

    And if Phleger knew of Obama’s concerns, why would he choose a venue certain to have the media present, to launch into such a divisive screed?

    When Obama chose to spend Easter in St. Thomas, it was reported (I think by Pamela Geller) that Wright was staying at the Hyatt there at the same time. It was after Easter that Wright delivered his now infamous remarks that led to the mother of all denouncements. Why would Wright continue to run his mouth when he was certain that (1) they offended Obama and (2) when he knew they would be picked up on the national news?

    Wright,Moss and Phleger all knew that their continued pattern of racist behavior would hurt Obama, whom they connsidered their “friend”. Did they not care enough about Obama to tone down their rhetoric or limit it to private conversations? Didn’t they realize that they had the potential to torpedo Obama’s chances for the White House?

    Interesting questions. And they beg another question: Was this choreographed by the Obama campaign as a way to preserve the black vote while assuaging the concerns of white voters by exiting Trinity? Perhaps that gives Obama too much credit for forward thinking, but it fits the rather Machiavellian imprimatur of Obama’s political career.

  33. #338110
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:39 am, BOB said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 9:13 pm, havok said:
    I hate to say this but Barack Hussein is making Hillary look like a decent option. Holy buckets….what has our country become?

    That is a scary thought, but it’s happened to me also. Hillary being thrown under Osama’s bus is almost enough to make me feel sorry for her, and McCain as the Repub option still sickens me.

  34. #338111
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:43 am, atheling said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 9:30 pm, RobM1981 said:

    I am on the record as saying that I won’t vote for John McCain, for a myriad of reasons.

    OTOH, Susan Sarandon just announced that if Obama loses, she’s moving. I think to Italy, but I’m hoping someplace a bit more progressive like Iran.

    Nah. She wouldn’t like Iran. No decent plastic surgeons there.

  35. #338112
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:48 am, atheling said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:30 am, Jim M. said:

    Wright,Moss and Phleger all knew that their continued pattern of racist behavior would hurt Obama, whom they connsidered their “friend”. Did they not care enough about Obama to tone down their rhetoric or limit it to private conversations? Didn’t they realize that they had the potential to torpedo Obama’s chances for the White House?

    I don’t think they thought that far. These people live in a “vacuum”. They actually believe that most other Americans think as they do, considering the portrayal the MSM, Hollywood, et al like to project.

    As far as Obama and his staff “orchestrating” anything, I doubt if they could manage it.

    These people are amateurs. Obama is an amateur. A flim flam man, but successful only in his bubble.

    That bubble is bursting right now.

  36. #338117
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:59 am, Mookie said:

    A conservative friend of mine just sent me an interesting question via email. He asked, “What’s worse: Obama throwing his church under the bus or McCain throwing conservatives under the bus?”

  37. #338119
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:13 am, libocrat said:

    Mookie, it has never occured to you the issue of HONESTY. You are a COMPLETE HACK.
    OBAMA IS A COMPLETE PHONY/FAILURE/LIGHTWEIGHT.

    That FACT has never been considered.
    It’s beyond scary.

  38. #338122
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:23 am, Amglo said:

    This dog has fleas, you lay with them it sticks forever.

  39. #338123
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:26 am, Lockstein13 said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:29 am, Azygos said:

    PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS MAN TO BE OUR PRESIDENT.HE WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.

    “We survived Carter we will survive this.”

    I reject this oft-heard statement.

    Whereas Carter only paved the way for Islamist extremists to take over Iran, Obama would bend over while they develop and use nuclear weapons. In that context, I consider “we will survive this” unrealistic and naive.

  40. #338124
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:46 am, Mookie said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:13 am, libocrat said:

    Mookie, it has never occured to you the issue of HONESTY. You are a COMPLETE HACK.
    OBAMA IS A COMPLETE PHONY/FAILURE/LIGHTWEIGHT.

    That FACT has never been considered.
    It’s beyond scary.

    Huh?

  41. #338127
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:58 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 6:22 pm, brooklyn red said:

    What use has a communist for a church?

    I think the more appropriate question is “What use has a communist for religion?” What I’m seeing here isn’t a religion as defined by any sane person, but rather an outlet of shrieking hatred, which doesn’t necessarily require a religion to spread itself. If you can manage to throw in a little race-baiting and class envy to spread the word, all the better.

    When you think about it, a communist does have a religion. He worships power and control over others — in other words, the government.

  42. #338130
    On June 1st, 2008 at 2:08 am, 29Victor said:

    June 1st, 2008 at 1:26 am, Lockstein13

    I agree. Also, although we survived Carter it wasn’t without great loss of American lives, respect, property and allies.

  43. #338131
    On June 1st, 2008 at 2:17 am, tpierce2 said:

    Barack Hussein Obama has to have a backer! He is nothing more than a puppet on some ones string!

    A junior senator without a resume, without a track record that would normally be acceptable to the United States. The guy scares me to death! I would prefer Hillary as the opponent to John McCain, the Republican democrat.

    Check out Rush Limbaugh website. There is a video of Barack Hussein Obama talking to some left wing nut job gathering. He will disarm the United States given his ability as Commander in Chief! This guy is an absolute nut job!

  44. #338150
    On June 1st, 2008 at 2:47 am, ArmsnAmmo said:

    WOW talk about showing your true colors! I don’t even want to think of someone with a SPINE (does he even have on?) as weak as this as The President of the United States of America! It has got to wondering if Jimmy Carter had more of a SPINE?? How is that for a thought that will keep you up at NIGHT!

  45. #338154
    On June 1st, 2008 at 3:55 am, vatodio said:

    Barak Hussain going back to his roots…The religion of Peace!

    It is good for America.

    With common religious leaning, it is easy to sit down with Syrians and Iranians and bring anout much needed peace.

    End of the terrorism from the face of earth. Everybody lives peacefully forever.

  46. #338155
    On June 1st, 2008 at 3:58 am, old trooper said:

    Lets take a good look…

    Marxist, Racist, 20 years of “Service” but no Military Service because He was Too Good for That…but Affirmative Action Recipient…has an America Hating Wife…a tight buddy in Bill Ayers and Ms. B Dohrn, both Domestic Terrorists…and this Dumb Ba$tard wants to be President?

    Worse yet dumb ba$tard Americans support this Punk?

    Nope. No Way.

  47. #338156
    On June 1st, 2008 at 4:00 am, old trooper said:

    Vatodio.

    Get yourself back to your nation of origin.

  48. #338168
    On June 1st, 2008 at 6:52 am, secondsight said:

    Barry spent those years studying how to shuckster a crowd. He wasn’t listening, he was learning technique.

    Guess you have to graduate sometime, eh?

  49. #338169
    On June 1st, 2008 at 7:01 am, DagneyT said:

    One question, “Barack, if you weren’t running for President, would you have left your church?”

  50. #338173
    On June 1st, 2008 at 7:31 am, graysonret said:

    Well, as far as liberals go, everything is okay now. He gets to start back at “square one”. All is forgiven. Now, any comment about his affiliation with any “previous church” will be treated with a shrug and “that’s old news. We need to talk about the issues”. If he ever becomes President, you better believe the Trinity “church” group will be constantly streaming in and out of the White House.

  51. #338174
    On June 1st, 2008 at 7:39 am, cicerokid said:

    Since this is a church of hate, will they “hate to see him go”? Is obummer leaving what he learned at the church, or taking the venom with him? Will he start a new church of his own? What about the children?

  52. #338175
    On June 1st, 2008 at 7:57 am, Lockstein13 said:

    “Old Trooper”, perhaps “vatodio” is either being sarcastic, onto something or a little of both….

    In a sense, this latest move of The Obamboozler shows all Americans the utter absence of principles in this loser candidate. Such an individual could quite reasonably see “surrender” as “peace.” Just imagine a President Obama introducing bits and pieces of shari’s into U.S. law and culture, under the guise of “multiculturalism and tolerance.”

    I can only hope that this makes it all the easier for Americans to reject him in November, should he become the Democratic Party candidate.

  53. #338181
    On June 1st, 2008 at 9:00 am, misterbee241 said:

    The Audacity of realizing what Christianity is really about?

    Obama has no idea what real Christianity is all about.

  54. #338184
    On June 1st, 2008 at 9:12 am, derel3433 said:

    How is it that this guy has attracted so many independents and even conservatives?

  55. #338185
    On June 1st, 2008 at 9:12 am, misterbee241 said:

    OTOH, Susan Sarandon just announced that if Obama loses, she’s moving. I think to Italy, but I’m hoping someplace a bit more progressive like Iran.

    I went to a Sarandon fan site the other day and offered to send her 20$ toward moving expenses if she would keep her word and really leave. Also she could take the rest of hollywood with her. I havent heard back.

  56. #338188
    On June 1st, 2008 at 9:21 am, terrig said:

    Mookie, I wonder the same thing as your conservative friend. I honestly don’t know. The only reason McCain gets my vote in Nov. is the Iraq war.

  57. #338190
    On June 1st, 2008 at 9:30 am, reutersrutter said:

    This is the change Obama will bring!
    <a href=”http://dojanderson.blogspot.com/”Hope, http://dojanderson.blogspot.com/“Hype

  58. #338195
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:18 am, franksalterego said:

    I used to think Obama might be the AntiChrist.

    But, according to the narrative, the antichrist was ’sposed to be very clever.

    You’d need the world’s most powerful electron microscope, to find clever in this guy.

  59. #338196
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:18 am, katablog said:

    The Obamas didn’t leave Trinity because it preaches racial hate or because it’s a church in name only that spends more time talking about politics than religion – no, the Obamas left Trinity according to Barack because 1) he doesn’t want to have to answer for everything that comes from their pulpit and 2)he wants all those reporters out of that church and the lime light off them and their racial hatred of America.

    Can anyone explain how Trinity keeps its charitable organization designation with all the politics coming out of the pulpit? Or is it just a “black thing” that Whitey can’t understand?

  60. #338202
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:29 am, LOBOMAN said:

    And the D’s talk about Bush being slow!

    Wonder who his back-up will be :)

  61. #338204
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:36 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Didn’t Rudolf Hess try this same kinda thing? Ok, it probably did help him wiggle out of a death sentence but I doubt it would’ve helped him win an election in Poland. Insanity! Yes, that’s it! Barrack can claim temporary insanity! He only needs to nail down the time frame of when it occurred….

  62. #338205
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:47 am, rooster said:

    Can anyone explain how Trinity keeps its charitable organization designation with all the politics coming out of the pulpit? Or is it just a “black thing” that Whitey can’t understand?

    I wonder if our resident affirmative action experts can shed some light on this question?

    nyk? mistressjustice?

  63. #338206
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:49 am, Lucius Vorenus said:

    Fat Jolly Penguin: When you think about it, a communist does have a religion. He worships power and control over others — in other words, the government.

    Things like power & goverment are only attributes of what a Communist worships [although even the Communist himself might not realize it].

  64. #338207
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:50 am, M0mm1e0f2G1rls said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:18 am, franksalterego said:
    I used to think Obama might be the AntiChrist.
    But, according to the narrative, the antichrist was ’sposed to be very clever.
    You’d need the world’s most powerful electron microscope, to find clever in this guy.

    I have received lots of emails about how Obama is the AntiChrist. I think along the same lines as you. The AntiChrist is suppose to be this terrific person and very smart. The more crap that comes out of his mouth, the more I think this can’t be him.
    But, then there is this spell he has over people. That is very scary. So I have mixed thoughts on this one. Is he or isn’t he? We will find the answer very soon. If he is, then my complaining about the next 4 years is an understatement. It will all be about the next 7 years.

  65. #338209
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:54 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Lockstein13 said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:29 am, Azygos said:

    PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS MAN TO BE OUR PRESIDENT.HE WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.

    “We survived Carter we will survive this.”

    I reject this oft-heard statement.

    Whereas Carter only paved the way for Islamist extremists to take over Iran, Obama would bend over while they develop and use nuclear weapons. In that context, I consider “we will survive this” unrealistic and naive.

    I had a conversation with an AF special ops commander on his third tour in Afghanistan about this very subject. His opinion was downright depressing – the libs have destroyed our country so much that only a major attack, one much larger than 9/11, will have any chance of putting us back on the right path of sovereignty and strength ever again. In that context he figures that we’re going to be attacked again anyway for that to happen so a liberal letting it happen sooner would be better than country club republicans and RINOS putting it off until later when it might be so large that we will be unable to ever recover no matter how much the surviving US population finally wakes up.

  66. #338210
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:59 am, M0mm1e0f2G1rls said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:54 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Your right, his opinion is depressing, but makes so much sense. And this whole “we survived Carter, we can survive this”, I don’t think Carter has anything on Obama. Obama is much, much worse. In my eyes that is.

  67. #338212
    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:59 am, bit_boy said:

    mul·li·gan (mulÆi gÃn), n.

    1. Also called mulÆligan stewÆ. a stew containing meat, vegetables, etc., esp. one made of any available ingredients.

    2. Golf. a shot not counted against the score, permitted in unofficial play to a player whose previous shot was poor.

    Usually, no more than one per round allowed, not as in Obie’s campaign one per hole. He can not bowl, he can not golf, I wonder if he can jump. Well, we now understand the audacity of hope. He hope white folk be stupid as him think them be.

  68. #338213
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:01 am, MacEamonn said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 11:25 pm, derel3433 said:
    Good thing we have such a strong Republican candidate to rally around this fall. We shouldn’t have any need to go negative and we’ll be able to keep the focus on the war, health care, and the economy.

    I’m not sure if derel3433 was being sarcastic, but if not, please point out the stong Republican candidate so I can support him or her.

  69. #338215
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:05 am, davenp35 said:

    Obama’s actions are something that someone who isn’t a hate-America radical would have done twenty years ago!

  70. #338217
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:09 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    MacEamonn said:

    …please point out the stong Republican candidate so I can support him or her.

    I have a check written out and waiting to send to the Michelle Malkin for President campaign, (she’d only be a few years younger than Theodore Roosevelt).

  71. #338218
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:14 am, franksalterego said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:50 am, M0mm1e0f2G1rls

    No, he’s not the Antichrist…He’s just another Jim Jones.

    Don’t drink the Kool-Aid

  72. #338219
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:17 am, katablog said:

    Found this little Obama quote at Rush’s site from a May 3, 2008 Meet the Press:

    OBAMA: He was my pastor, and he built a terrific church. I’m proud of that church. We’ve got a wonderful young pastor who’s there, who’s doing, uh — continuing the terrific work that the church does, and that’s my commitment. My commitment is to the values of — of that church.

    So while we shouldn’t pick little specks out of what we hear at Trinity – we should know whether Obama leaves or not, he’s committed to the Trinity values: racism, hatred of whitey and AmeriKKKa.

  73. #338221
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:27 am, M0mm1e0f2G1rls said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:14 am, franksalterego said:
    Don’t drink the Kool-Aid

    I’m not hip with the insult lingo. I don’t know what that means and don’t have the time on a Sunday morning to care. Just rest assure that that fool isn’t getting my vote. Nor Hillary or McCain. None of them is worth the price of grain.

  74. #338222
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:29 am, Lockstein13 said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:54 am, Danceswithdachshunds said: “In that context he figures that we’re going to be attacked again anyway for that to happen so a liberal letting it happen sooner would be better than country club republicans and RINOS putting it off until later when it might be so large that we will be unable to ever recover no matter how much the surviving US population finally wakes up.”

    The telling part of this is the “…until later when it might be so large…”. Who’s to say the next time isn’t “it”?!

    That is why I respectfully disagree in the sense that, whoever is in office at the time of “the next (likelihood unknown, but not unreasonable) attack” will benefit (we’re speaking politics here, no cynicism here, in the event of a real attack…) from the nation rallying around him.

    In that respect, I most certainly do not see having Obama as President as a plus.

  75. #338223
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:30 am, franksalterego said:

    My problem isn’t so much with the fact that Wright, Farrakhann, Moss, Phleger, etal are racists…They’re entitled to their opinions.

    The real problem is, they’re using the pulpit, and their position to teach and instill this hate in others.

    Too bad, Obama’s Medical Care Dream won’t cure that sickness.

  76. #338225
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:39 am, franksalterego said:

    June 1st, 2008 at 11:27 am, M0mm1e0f2G1rls

    Well, if you don’t know who Jim Jones is, and what the reference to Kool-Aid is, p’haps you, and the rest of us are better off, with you staying home on election day.

  77. #338226
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:50 am, rambler said:

    All these hatefilled churches need to be thrown under the bus. The UCC needs to separate from Trinity church. The catholic church needs to do more about Pfleger. No religion should allow any religious leader to spew this vial stuff. bho may have done more to expose the racial hatred which has been hidden from view. He has failed miserably as a unifier. He has chosen to burn the candle at both ends for to long and as a result has gotten burned. Poor baby!

  78. #338229
    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:58 am, franksalterego said:

    The catholic church needs to do more about Pfleger.
    rambler

    You got THAT right…Catholics everywhere should demand, this jackass be thrown out of the church.

  79. #338233
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm, M0mm1e0f2G1rls said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 11:39 am, franksalterego said:
    June 1st, 2008 at 11:27 am, M0mm1e0f2G1rls
    Well, if you don’t know who Jim Jones is, and what the reference to Kool-Aid is, p’haps you, and the rest of us are better off, with you staying home on election day.

    You rude piece of s**t! I said I’m not hip with the insult about the kool aid remark. I know exactly who Jim Jones is. I wasn’t born yesterday. For you to belittle me because of one insult I’m not familiar with is very big of you. You should be very proud of yourself.

  80. #338234
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:27 pm, Dave Turson said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 10:18 am, franksalterego said:
    I used to think Obama might be the AntiChrist. But, according to the narrative, the antichrist was ’sposed to be very clever. You’d need the world’s most powerful electron microscope, to find clever in this guy.

    An anti-christ is anyone denying Jesus is the only way to salvation (1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3 ; 2 John 7).
    A true Christian would never say this: “I am a Christian. So, I have a deep faith. I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place…”
    Nor could a Christian describe the Muslim call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
    The opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer:
    “Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
    Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
    I witness that there is no god but Allah
    I witness that there is no god but Allah
    I witness that Muhammad is his prophet… “

  81. #338235
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pm, pueblo1032 said:

    A truly RELIGIOUS AWAKENING!!!! Boy, that didn’t take too long… Twenty years of listening to the filth, bigotry, and hate coming from that so-called RELIGIOUS LEADER… TWENTY YEARS???? Wonder what kind of pass MSM will give HIM this time? I can ALMOST FEEL Chrissies leg TINGLING as I write this… How about you guys???

  82. #338237
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Wow. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

    Just watch him head off to Iraq and meet with Gen. Petraeus later this year because he looks like such a fool for dissing McCain, and probably “seeing things in a different light” when he gets back.

    This fool is just so predictable.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  83. #338238
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:31 pm, franksalterego said:

    June 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm, M0mm1e0f2G1rls

    Sorry

  84. #338240
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:38 pm, bloghooligan said:

    http://essence.typepad.com/news/2008/05/obama-resignati.html

    May 30, 2008

    Dear. Rev. Moss:

    We are writing to make official our decision to end our memebership (sic) at trinity(sic).

    We make this decision with sadness. Trinity was where I found Christ, where we were married and where our children were baptized. We have many friends among the 8,000 congregants who attend there and we are proud of the extraordinary good works (sic) the church continues to perform throughout the community to help the hungry, the homeless and people in need of medical care. We also have come to appreciate your ministry and both think you have been, and will be, a wonderful pastor for years to come.

    But as you know, our relations with trinity (sic) have been strained by the divisive statements of rev. wright (sic), which sharply conflict with our own views (laugh). Our larger concern is that because of my candidacy and membership at trinity (sic), these controversies have served as an unfortunate distraction for other trinity (sic) members who seek to worship in peace, and have placed you in an untenable position as you establish your own ministry under very difficult circumstances.

    Our faith remains strong and we will find another church home for our family. But we also know that faith and prayer are not merely exercises to be discharged for two hours on Sunday. They are and always will be a bulwark for us in our daily lives.

    We are grateful for our years as part of the Trinity community, and wish you all the best as you lead the congregation into the future. You, your family and the entire Trinity family will be in thoughts and prayers.

    Sincerely

    Michelle Obama
    Barack Obama

    So there’s the resignation letter.

    Mind you, both of these rock stars are supposed to be graduates of Harvard Law…so why does read like a 15 year old wrote it?

    Not only does it make me cringe grammatically, but it’s verbose and a letter clearly not repudiating the Church.

  85. #338242
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:44 pm, M0mm1e0f2G1rls said:

    No, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to get angry with you. I shouldn’t have said what I said. It was harsh. I had a couple of minutes to look it up and now understand. I should have educated myself with that term. Learning everything about a mass murder/suicide is not my cup of tea. I knew the just of it, but obviously should have learned more. My apologies.

  86. #338243
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:46 pm, JWS said:

    On May 31st, 2008 at 7:49 pm, single stack said:

    Amen brother. It is beyond hilarious how no one is able to just come out and call B H Obama the racist that he is. Those in the public eye I half get (who wants a visit from Sharpton or Jesse and then a pink slip?). But even anonymous posters on sites like this tap dance around the obvious.

  87. #338246
    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm, Mojave Mark said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:27 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Anybody who denies Christ is a type of anti-Christ that’s true. The Anti-Christ (with a capital A) is going to be Jewish. There’s not a chance that B. Hussein Obama is the real deal. He’s a dolt and I’ve not seen any evidence of his Christianity. He called a passage from the book of Romans “obscure.” That’s like calling the 9th Symphony of Beethoven “obscure.” He’s a real dolt and a pest. I bet the Dhimmicrats are sorry they nominated him.

  88. #338248
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:11 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    The Anti-Christ (with a capital A) is going to be Jewish

    I strongly disagree. Mabus has all the trimmings of an Islamofascist Nutbag.

    Just look at all the names that closely resemble his:

    Saddam (Hussein)
    Osama (bin Laden)
    Mahmoud (Ahmadenijad)
    Abbas

    This list goes on.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  89. #338249
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pm, Dave Turson said:

    On June 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm, Mojave Mark said:
    The Anti-Christ (with a capital A) is going to be Jewish.

    Please post Bible verses stating this.

  90. #338254
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:29 pm, franksalterego said:

    The Anti-Christ (with a capital A) is going to be Jewish.
    –Mojave Mark, June 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    Hate to be the one to break it to ya’.

    That statement of belief, is the one held by anti-semites.

    Here’s why Obama can’t be the antichrist…

    He’d have to be able to fool all the people, all the time.

    He’s only got half the Democrats fooled.

    The rest of us, see right through his little con-game.

  91. #338255
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:35 pm, M0mm1e0f2G1rls said:

    One thing before I head to church. I should have made my point more clearly. BO is most definitely A Anti-Christ. He shows all the signs of being one. No one can deny that. All you have to do is look at the “God hates everything” church he attended for 20 years. As to the emails I receive about Obama being THE Anti-Christ from the Book of Revelations, that is what I’m having a problem with. What is a shame is that he has a huge following that think along the same lines as he does. How can anyone that has a belief in Christ follow someone like him. I would have to assume (which I know is wrong) that all of Obamas followers are non-believers. How can they be believers knowing what type of church he attended for 20 years and knowing that he attended a Muslim school growing up? Am I wrong?

  92. #338257
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:47 pm, emjem24 said:

    Too bad it’s easier to quite one’s church then it is to quit one’s icky, personal habit… smoking.

    Does anybody know if Obummer is still smoking a pack or more a day?

    Did it really take Obummer 20 years to quit Trinity or was it the Nicotine patch that did it?

    Enquiring minds slightly want to know…. :roll:

  93. #338258
    On June 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pm, franksalterego said:

    June 1st, 2008 at 1:35 pm, M0mm1e0f2G1rls

    His followers are the low-hanging fruit of the Democrat Party…The easy ones to pluck.

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