“He lived out what he wanted to do and that is to be a Marine.”

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 2, 2008 12:14 AM

Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, R.I.P.:

On leave from the violence he had survived in the war in Iraq, a young Marine was so wary of crime on the streets of his own home town that he carried only $8 to avoid becoming a robbery target.

Despite his caution, Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, 21, was shot point-blank in the neck during a robbery at a bus stop.

Feeding and breathing tubes kept him alive 41/2 months, until he died of an infection on May 18.

Two men have been charged in the attack, and Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Bill Mason said Friday the case was under review to decide whether to seek the death penalty.

“It is an awful story,” said Alberta Holt, the young Marine’s aunt and his legal guardian when he was a teenager determined to flee a troubled Cleveland school for safer surroundings in the suburbs.

Crutchfield was attacked on January 5 while he and his girlfriend were waiting for a bus. He had heeded the warnings of commanders that a Marine on leave might be seen as a prime robbery target with a pocketful of money, so he only carried $8, his military ID card and a bank card.

“They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had and told him since he was a Marine and didn’t have any money he didn’t deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him,” Holt told The Associated Press.

… Connie LaNasa, who works in [Crutchfield's high] school office, said Crutchfield was a well-behaved student and went about his school work with little notice.

“He lived out what he wanted to do and that is to be a Marine,” LaNasa said.

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  1. #338395
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 am, instugator said:

    I wish I lived near. I would sit in the front seat of the court, in uniform (mine is USAF), for each day of the trial.

  2. #338397
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 am, anne said:

    “They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had and told him since he was a Marine and didn’t have any money he didn’t deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him,”

    This makes me so very sad and so very angry all at once.

    What is wrong with people?

    RIP Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, and thank you.

  3. #338401
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 am, Jimmy the Notable said:

    Sounds like a hate crime to me. We should urge that they prosecute it as such.

    RIP.

  4. #338406
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 am, nyk said:

    Sounds like a hate crime to me. We should urge that they prosecute it as such.

    I agree. If they killed him because — or even partially because — he was in a military uniform, they should pay extra for the venom they spewed on a man just for serving his country. I bet we disagree on every other point, but “punishing” someone because of who they are or what they choose to do deserves an equal and opposite counter-punishment.

  5. #338407
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:39 am, rignerd said:

    Semper Fi Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, may God bless you and welcome you home.
    Thank you for your service to our nation, there are too few great young Americans like you.
    As much as your loss saddens me I can only imagine the pain of those you loved.

  6. #338409
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:44 am, Land that I Love said:

    This is horrible. Echoing #2, what is wrong with people? What’s wrong with our world? Stories like this make me want to stick my head in the sand so I don’t have to face this kind of ugliness.
    God bless you, Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield. May you wake up on streets of gold.
    Rest in peace.

  7. #338412
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 am, yegor said:

    These SCUMBAGS need to be prosecuted, convicted, sentenced and then put to death.

  8. #338414
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 am, Free ThinkerNY said:

    The killing of this Marine is an attack on us all. His killers don’t deserve to live. They should be executed as soon as possible. They probably won’t be, thanks to liberal lunatics who are enablers of evil.

  9. #338413
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 am, love2rumba said:

    These SCUMBAGS need to be prosecuted, convicted, sentenced and then put to death.

    I hear you

  10. #338415
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:52 am, BrianNY said:

    “They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had and told him since he was a Marine and didn’t have any money he didn’t deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him,”

    Sickening. It sounds to me like Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield was executed for being a United States Marine.

    Anyone who has survived an episode like this knows that the punk with the gun still might shoot you after you comply with his demands. I have to believe that Cpl. Robert Crutchfield had to hold back from snapping these two punks in two because he was thinking of the safety of his date.

    If convicted, Ean Farrow and Thomas Ray III should be executed and photographed just like President Lincoln’s conspirators.

    Murdered for being a United State Marine. I want to hear an immediate condemnation of this tragedy from Code Pink and all other like-minded freaks.

  11. #338416
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:59 am, T J Green said:

    Death by firing squad. I volunteer.

  12. #338417
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:02 am, Joy said:

    Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, R.I.P.

    I can’t imagine his girlfriend having to witness this. My heart and prayers go out to her and both families.

    This is just horrible.

  13. #338419
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:12 am, Joy said:

    That I am now living in a country with such hatred and loathing for our Military just sickens me. And I’m not saying this through anger, but tears.

    I’m sure the anger will come, but right now I’m just overwhelmed with sadness over this.

    I watch classic movies a lot and several I’ve seen lately have stars making a plea for Americans to buy War Bonds as these movies were made during WWII. A time when we loved our country and appreciated our Military. And now look how things are. Just sickening.

  14. #338421
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 am, ChePibe said:

    I’ve said it here before, and I’ll say it again:

    I’ve never been in the military. The closest I’ve come is working as an intern at a U.S. embassy.

    Let me tell you – there is no feeling in the world like walking into a building and knowing it is guarded by the United States Marine Corps. Even if it’s only a handful of them, you can know without a shadow of a doubt that the man down at Post One and his compatriots will fight until his last breath to keep that building and its occupants safe. It’s one thing knowing you’re in a building with security – it’s another to know you’re in a building guarded by United States Marines.

    God bless them all, and all of their loved ones.

  15. #338422
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:25 am, Christian Soldier said:

    My heart cries for Robert’s aunt Alberta and for his comrades in arms.

    Rest in peace – dear brave one.

    As for E. Farrow and T. Ray-death by firing squad should be your punishment-you are treasonist beasts.

  16. #338430
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:39 am, Leatherneck1982 said:

    #1 and #11, I’d be right there with you.

    I’m reminded of a story from 2003 of another Marine who had been shot after returning from deployment. It really sickens me to read stories like this, knowing that my colleagues survive combat only to be killed in front of their loved ones.

    Semper Fi, LCpl Crutchfield.

  17. #338433
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:50 am, Mommaofmany said:

    That is simply sickening.

    Sounds like a hate crime to me. We should urge that they prosecute it as such.

    Absolutely! Cuyahoga County should prosecute with the goal of putting these criminals to death.

  18. #338438
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:03 am, fred5676 said:

    And who exactly is responsible for the hatred and disrespect of our military?? Hmmmm????

    I’m pretty hardened by all the violence you read about these days, but this story made me shed a tear.

    The animals who did this have earned a speedy trial and a swift, final, and very public punishment. Hanging in the town square?

  19. #338441
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 am, mistressjustice said:

    I feel like Tommy Lee Jones at the end of “No Country for Old Men”. I seriously don’t understand the callous disrespect for human life exhibited by some people. Too many people. Young men get shot and killed every day in similar pointless ways, who aren’t in the military.


    They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had and told him since he was a Marine and didn’t have any money he didn’t deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him,” Holt told The Associated Press.

    I think some of you give the thugs here too much credit for political thinking or “statement” making. It looks like just some throw away line, by some souless loss cause where marine could have been replaced with banker or mailman.
    We live in an extremely violent society and it sickens and saddens me. Remember Jamiel Shaw also.

  20. #338442
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 am, pdwalker said:

    An immediate death sentence is the only appropriate punishment. It won’t bring back Mr Crutchfield, but it will be justice he deserves.

  21. #338443
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 am, NYCdude said:

    Ah this incident made me so angry. How dare these robbers..
    I studied Islamic laws of 700ad-1000ad; they would cut robber’s hands and hang murderers in the central square for others to see and and to make an example of these criminals and jeez their society was peaceful. We are in 21st century, today we have nutcase judges and thugs and illegals running wild. Prosecutors should seek death penalty for these bastards.

  22. #338444
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:06 am, WarTip said:

    As long as we continue to coddle prisoners, this will continue. I definitely do not agree with using hate crimes legislation in ANY circumstances since it grants the government an open license to prosecute thought.

    Our entire system is broken and a return to quick and efficient justice may just be the ticket. First, we need some people in charge we can trust. It is a dual-edged sword and unfortunately, we the people are on the receiving end of both edges.

    You kill someone, get caught, you die. Why is it that these same advocates against the death penalty who want to remove all of our guns say that victims were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and it was just unforeseen circumstances, but even one innocent death of a criminal is too much? Hypocrisy? Death wish?

    This Marine who served our nation deserved to live but Justice is the best gift we can give him now. As for his friends and family, all we can offer are our prayers.

  23. #338445
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:11 am, JBro said:

    LCpl Crutchfield, rest in peace in our Lord’s loving embrace. Semper Fidelis, brother. My thoughts and prayers are with your family.

    As for the perpetrators of this heinous act, may they be convicted by a jury of their peers and sentenced according to the despicable nature of their crimes. Finally, may they face our Lord for their final judgment!

  24. #338461
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 4:38 am, JonB said:

    The only acceptable punishment for this crime is execution. If they are not executed, they should be forcibly removed from whatever incarceration they are put into, and then executed. There is no other proper way to deal with this sort of crime, and to hell with the pathetic pro-criminal justice system that is going to try and get them off with a slap on the wrist.

  25. #338468
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 5:53 am, Cameron said:

    Let his brother Marines have the two of them.

  26. #338473
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 6:26 am, zorro said:

    The authorities who “run” Cleveland and Cuyahoga County should be ashamed. Clean that place up!

    May God the Father Almighty rest his Soul and comfort his family.

  27. #338474
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 6:27 am, crashemt said:

    Amen, Cameron.

  28. #338478
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 am, WarTip said:

    On June 2nd, 2008 at 5:53 am, Cameron said:

    Let his brother Marines have the two of them.

    Poetic Justice :D

    His fellow Marines within Iraq even?

  29. #338484
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 am, OldSailor88 said:

    Sending them to Iraq wouldnt work. There’s less violence in Baghdad than there is in Cleveland. Although, the Marines there might make an exception to honor Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.

  30. #338486
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:06 am, The_Livewire said:

    Ok, ladies, gentlemen, librals…

    Why should these two SoBs be charged with hate crimes? Last time I checked, conservatives were opposed to hate crimes. Just sentence them to Leavenworth, let natural deselction do its job.

    And Missjustice, welcome to the anti-hate-crimes side of things.

  31. #338488
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 am, Ralph Gizzip said:

    On June 2nd, 2008 at 6:26 am, zorro said:

    The authorities who “run” Cleveland and Cuyahoga County should be ashamed. Clean that place up!

    You mean the same people that gave us Dennis Kucinich? For some reason I don’t see that happening.

  32. #338490
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:32 am, TMoney said:

    Honors to LCpl Crutchfield. He is our kind of man – God, country and corps.

    The scum that murdered him don’t deserve to live. For the firing squad, the guns and ammo are on me.

    Semper Fidelis

  33. #338491
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:37 am, HeatherRadish said:

    Why should these two SoBs be charged with hate crimes? Last time I checked, conservatives were opposed to hate crimes.

    As long as hate crime modifiers are the law, they need to be used for ALL hate crimes, not only for crimes committed by white men against blacks, Muslims, or gays. Equality under the law.

    That said, my heart breaks for Lance Cpl Crutchfield, his girlfriend, and his aunt. I hope they know how many people respect and honor him for his service.

  34. #338493
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:43 am, undrseige247 said:

    Horrible.

  35. #338494
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:43 am, slp said:

    Lance Cpl. Crutchfield got out of the hood and made something of himself.

    Its so very, very sad that these two hoodlums had a gun on him when he was unarmed.

    These punks deserve the death penalty.

  36. #338496
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:49 am, slp said:
  37. #338497
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:50 am, almeehan said:

    This incident occurred in an area where John Kerry got more votes than Bush. A territory governed by a philosophy that has cheapened life through entitlement mentality. A plantation forum that tolerates the likes of a Rev. Wright or Pfleglepuss and creates human beings that destroy instead of design, tear down rather than build up, kill rather than create and on the cycle goes. The DNC, MSM and liberals in general have a lot of blood on their collective hands. They will have to account, all, when they meet their Maker. May God care for and bless the likes of Robert Crutchfield, a young life snuffed out too soon.

  38. #338498
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:50 am, khan said:

    #3: I hope not. Every crime is a “hate” crime. “Hate” crime is thought crime. One of the worst bits of legislation in recent history.

  39. #338499
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 am, khan said:

    #13: Joy, this wasn’t a crime rooted in hatred or loathing for the military. Unfortunately, this is just your typical, every day crime. The guy was a target for predators just as tourists are targets for pickpockets.

  40. #338501
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    RIP Sir. RIP.

    Upon reading this, the first thing that popped into my mind was – my God. This is so heartbreaking. Not because he was a United States Marine – because he was a human being treated like trash… The fact that he was a Marine and was reportedly killed for that reason makes my blood boil.

  41. #338503
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 7:57 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had and told him since he was a Marine and didn’t have any money he didn’t deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him,” Holt told The Associated Press.

    [Emphasis mine]

    I think that speaks for itself.

  42. #338509
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 am, DesertLover said:

    My condolences and prayers go out to LCpl Crutchfield’s family and friends in their moment of loss. May the lord grant them peace in their time of sorrow.

    Take heart knowing that your Marine has simply received a new set of orders from the supreme commandant for a new assignment. He is to report at once to his new duty station and take up his post guarding the streets of heaven.

    Semper Fi LCpl Crutchfield

    DesertLover
    SSgt USMC 1964-1974

  43. #338511
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 am, mycroft69 said:

    Here’s one hate crime that doesn’t get any attention from the lefties. Everyone who was involved in his killing should be hanged.

  44. #338514
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:16 am, Barry F. said:

    R.I.P., Lance Cpl. Crutchfield and thank you for your service. A young life cut short senselessly.

    The culls responsible for such a heinous act deserve to feel the full extent of the punishment they could face.

    …Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Bill Mason said Friday the case was under review to decide whether to seek the death penalty.

    I would seem pretty cut-and-dry to me. Go for the death penalty, now.

  45. #338516
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 am, Dimsdale said:

    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 am, mycroft69 said:

    Here’s one hate crime that doesn’t get any attention from the lefties. Everyone who was involved in his killing should be hanged.

    I agree. If he were gay or some other ACLU preferred minority, it would be all over the news. But a decent, honest guy minding his own business doesn’t get coverages, particularly since he is a Marine.

  46. #338519
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:22 am, Texas Tiger said:

    RIP.

    Both men were arrested shortly after and charged with attempted murder, aggravated robbery and felonious assault. Prosecutors will now consider filing additional charges against them, Stacho said.

    Throw the book at them…literally…at their heads.

  47. #338527
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:37 am, Wade said:

    Semper Fi Robert. Let the judge sentence these crapweasels to spent 30 days with a Marine grunt unit in Iraq. Anyone think they would need round trip tickets?

  48. #338530
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:40 am, torabora said:

    I remember in the early days of the Iraq war one of our troops was murdered buying a soft drink in a shop in Bahgdad in a similar fashion. Soon there were calls in Congress by Mr. Murtha to redeploy our troops.

    Perhaps we should redeploy our troops from Cleveland to Taiwan now.

    Not!

  49. #338543
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 8:55 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I don’t know what to say. This hurts. Semper Fi, Robert. You’re position is covered, rest now. And yes no death like this is any less heinous, but this one hurts more. Sorry!

  50. #338553
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 am, DMC said:

    I agree with those who don’t want to see the hate crime nonsense used (since every crime is a hate crime).

    However, HeatherRadish does have a point. Since it exists, maybe prosecutors ought to push it on every criminal case that involves violence. When every victim becomes victim of a hate crime, and the courts are clogged up with additional paperwork, maybe the legislators will see the idiocy of it.

    I’d love to see treason added to those SOB’s charges. Is that legally possible? Any lawyers drop in here?

  51. #338561
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:20 am, terrig said:

    Guess this is how the leftist anti-war protestors really feel? What a horrible story. I am not for the death penalty but maybe for these two I’d make an exception. I would also love to see treason added to the charges as well but it won’t happen.
    May you RIP Lance Corporal Crutchfield and may God watch over your family and hold them in his hand.

  52. #338564
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:21 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Liberals routinely float the idea that young people join the military because they are poor, or because they are black or, as John F’n Kerry put it – they didn’t do their homework

    The liberal solution is welfare to deprive children of having a father, to remove God from schools to void any moral basis for honor and civility, to load the courts with judges who have zero concern for victims but kowtow to rehabilitating the resulting ‘product of liberal education’ – criminals who don’t have the slightest notion of right and wrong and, to take away guns from law abiding citizens – even those who held one to defend our ‘liberty’ at home. Liberals tout the number of soldiers who died fighting for our country but will say ZERO about this one who was killed by the ice-veined murderers that their twisted socialist ‘ideals’ produced – the enemy within.

    My deepest sympathy to Alberta Holt; I pray that she knows that she is not alone; that there still are people in this country who honor her nephew’s service to his country and suffer her loss with her.

  53. #338569
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 am, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    When a good man falls in a city,
    .
    .
    .
    .
    is there anyone who actually hears it?

  54. #338573
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:25 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    We do – oldcollegeguy… we do!

  55. #338575
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 am, Rusty said:

    Sounds like a hate crime to me. We should urge that they prosecute it as such.

    Adding military service to protected groups in hate crime legislation isn’t such a bad idea. This horrible murder terrorizes the military community and that is unacceptable.

  56. #338584
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The US Military is the group that does the protecting. If the laws on the books were enforced perhaps these thugs wouldn’t “run” the streets as if they are a god.This young man’s life was in their hands and that is highly unacceptable. Where are all the people who decry and demand that we understand the root causes of why criminals do what they do? I mean there has to be a reason for it. They are scum and I don’t care if this is labeled a hate crime or not – they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But what does it matter, they serve some time in jail and they’ll be released early for good behavior and then they return to their life of crime. It’s the circle of the judicial system in the US.

  57. #338587
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    The military community isn’t about to be terrorized by anybody. Stuff the hate crimes tome. I am hoping there will be an accounting, if more of this continues, the way we ( you know who I mean) can best administer it.

  58. #338590
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:37 am, MtsEdge said:

    What a tragic loss for LCpl. Crutchfield’s family, and for our country. This young man fought for our country and survived, only to be killed on his home turf.

    I think some of you give the thugs here too much credit for political thinking or “statement” making. It looks like just some throw away line, by some souless loss cause where marine could have been replaced with banker or mailman.

    I don’t think they were making a political statement, perhaps just trying to pull him back down into the mire with them…he made something of himself, they didn’t. Misery loves company.

  59. #338596
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 am, englishqueen01 said:

    What is wrong with people?

    This is the product of a culture that has lost its moral compass, that considers people not only entitled to whatever they want immediately when they want it, but who cannot be “judged” or told what to do (i.e., moral relativism).

    Adding military service to protected groups in hate crime legislation isn’t such a bad idea. This horrible murder terrorizes the military community and that is unacceptable.

    I oppose all hate-crimes legislation or enhancers. Too much like thought policing to me.

    Unless someone explicitly says “I’m killing you because you’re (gay, Christian, white, black, etc.)” such charges are pretty much built on circumstantial evidence.

    This reminds me of a shooting here not to long ago. A guy came out of a bar, was held up, surrendered his wallet (and his female companions gave their purses) and the thugs still shot and killed him.

    My prayers are with Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, his family and friends, his community, and the thugs who did this.

  60. #338600
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 am, Blind_Mule said:

    Semper Fi, LCpl Crutchfield my brother, you did everthing in life to earn the most prestigious title and honor in the world, United States Marine, you earned your title selflessly, you fought along the side of your brothers and died with honor in the uniform of a Marine, you lived through the perils of war only to be struck down by those you commited to protect, God Bless You and your family, God has set a table in heaven for you so you may feast with the Saints, save me a seat I’ll dine with you later my brother.

  61. #338601
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    MtsEdge,
    Valid point. It’s what I like to call the crabs in the barrel mentality. The one at the top gets pulled back down by the others at the bottom of the barrel.

    Sadly, this is way too prevalent.

  62. #338603
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:46 am, Tennessee Dave said:

    Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, may you lay in honor amongst your brethern.

    It is a shame that someone is safer on the streets of Bagdhad than in any metro area in the U.S.A.
    Liberals decry the war and the surge, but won’t admit that more people are killed on the streets of America.

  63. #338609
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am, MtsEdge said:

    The military community isn’t about to be terrorized by anybody. Stuff the hate crimes tome. I am hoping there will be an accounting, if more of this continues, the way we ( you know who I mean) can best administer it.

    I agree. Just wondering…since he knew there could be trouble for him on the streets, was he packin’ heat?

  64. #338610
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:54 am, Boomer said:

    Our prayers to the family, friends, and brothers in arms of Lance Cpl Crutchfield forced to endure the senseless lose of this young man. I have found through my own experience on active duty that there is a special class of bottom feeders that would not last the first day of basic training that make it a point to prey on military personnel. The criminals responsible for the death of this young man remind me of some that I have had the misfortune to meet during my active duty days. I would gladly join the firing party to give these dirt bags the justice they deserve, but prefer to see them handed over to Lance Cpl Crutchfield’s fellow Marines for proper administration of the punishment their actions have earned.

  65. #338612
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Mtsedge

    no, I’m sure he wasn’t nor would he, not part of the uniform and all that. But, one never knows in the future does one? ….just sayin’

  66. #338624
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 am, swmbo said:

    I don’t see any reason for any debate about the death penalty. Seems like a slam dunk to me !! I consider any murder a hate crime, but this one is beyond comprehension.

  67. #338632
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am, josetheguerilla said:

    Lance Cpl Crutchfield, R.I.P.

  68. #338634
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 am, MtsEdge said:

    I read somewhere that many commercial airline pilots are former military. This should justify them carrying weapons when they’re flying commercial planes, for the safety of all on board. I think it should be the same w/all other military personnel. Perhaps LCpl Crutchfield would be alive today if he could have shown them some consequences of their actions.

  69. #338641
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 am, jbirish said:

    Remember how Cuba opened their prisons, put their criminals in boats and shoved the boats toward Florida?
    Let’s round up all these dirtbags and ship them to Iran!

    RIP Lance Cpl Crutchfield. Thank you for your service.

  70. #338645
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 am, nyc123me said:

    “They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had and told him since he was a Marine and didn’t have any money he didn’t deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him,”

    The scum that did this should be removed from the human race. No sitting on death row for years wasting taxpayer money on useless appeal after useless appeal. End them. Now.

  71. #338669
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 am, Rusty said:

    But what does it matter, they serve some time in jail and they’ll be released early for good behavior and then they return to their life of crime. It’s the circle of the judicial system in the US.

    I sympathize, but keeping most criminals in jail forever isn’t a reasonable solution either.

    One of the problems is that prisons don’t deter criminals, they breed them. The more time spent in prison, the higher the rates of recidivism. I think prison reform is as good a starting point as any for fixing the very real problems that 30 describes.

  72. #338672
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    RIP Lance Cpl Crutchfield. Thank you for your service and God Bless as you return home.

  73. #338673
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I sympathize, but keeping most criminals in jail forever isn’t a reasonable solution either.

    I don’t recall saying forever.

    I believe my arugment is that these criminals don’t even do the time they are sentenced. Good behavior? Whose brain child was that? They are criminals and if they are sentenced to 5 yrs in prison… that is what they should do.

    One of the problems is that prisons don’t deter criminals, they breed them.

    That’s an interesting argument. I’d say liberality breeds them but I’m sure you’d disagree.

    The more time spent in prison, the higher the rates of recidivism.

    Proof. Please.

    I think prison reform is as good a starting point as any for fixing the very real problems that 30 describes.

    Reform huh? I’ll leave it alone… This thread isn’t about the prison system. My apologies for even bringing it up.

  74. #338709
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 am, Donut44 said:

    I think prison reform is as good a starting point as any for fixing the very real problems that 30 describes.

    Here here, I agree! Of course that is if when you say prison reform, you mean getting all the tv’s out, the work out equipment, the nice cells, the internet, and all the other niceties they seem to have, than I agree. Prison is not for reform, it is for punishment. Eat oatmeal for three months straight and see how they feel. Put panties on their head . . . oh no wait, that’s torture.

  75. #338713
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:30 am, atheling said:

    RIP Lance Cpl. Crutchfield.

    I hope those bastards get the death penalty.

    I don’t buy that garbage that this is some “random” killing. Those scum that murdered him did so knowing that the Left has vilified our military and this war, which justified their actions.

    Life is cheap when abortion is legal.

  76. #338717
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 am, atheling said:

    Re: Donut 44

    Amen. “Prison reform” is another stupid leftis mantra which means coddling the criminal.

  77. #338725
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:34 am, DBNinKY said:

    Rest in the arms of the Father, Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, brave soldier and protector of freedom. May confort and peace reside with those you leave behind.

  78. #338740
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 am, whoozit said:

    Land that I Love said:

    Stories like this make me want to stick my head in the sand so I don’t have to face this kind of ugliness.

    Evil deeds run more rampantly when good people choose to stick their head in the sand. The marine chose to fight head-on, and so should we all, even if it’s not on the front lines. I consider people like Michelle Malkin to be just as brave, always speaking up for what she believes, in spite of those who wish she would just cower away. Never despair! You are NOT alone!

  79. #338748
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 am, conservativehomeschooler said:

    Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield

    RIP. Thank you so much for the service to our country. Thank you from my family to yours.

    It makes no difference whether you die here or in combat, you are a hero!

  80. #338796
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pm, CrazyFool said:

    I wonder what made these thugs (I kinda like the term ‘goblin’ myself) feel that a U.S. Marine was fair game to murder?

    Could it be the anti-military hatred put out by Code Pinko and the left?

    Could it possibly be because treasonous assholes like Murtha have labeled them ‘cold blooded murderers’ on national TV and got away with it?

  81. #338799
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 pm, greenfairie said:

    In the ’60s and ’70s, they spit on the soldiers when they came back. Now they murder them.

    These guys might not have been anarchists or card-carrying members of some anti-war group, but the hip-hop culture has long since been very anti-authority (law enforcement, military). Anyone in a uniform is an imperialist, a racist, or a sellout. Don’t think that didn’t influence these scumbags.

  82. #338805
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:30 pm, TheSev said:

    There is only one sentence for these scum.

    Life (however short) on Paris Island, where they will undergo boot camp, wearing pink, everyday until they drop dead.

    Making them Pugil stick targets wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

  83. #338813
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:37 pm, Cosmo said:

    Amen, Jimmy the Notable.

    This is a hate crime. If I were the judge, I were a member of the jury, I would pass a hate verdict against these two animals. If I were the judge, I would hand out a hate sentence: six months forced sodomy followed by a death befitting of an infidel: beheading.

    I’ll be these two subhumans are thanking their lucky stars that they live in civilized society, regardless of whether or not their actions warrant such treatment.

    I want to go punch something now.

  84. #338814
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:37 pm, DesertLover said:

    Time was that a judge would give troubled kids one last chance to straighten out by giving them a choice to go into the military or go to jail … judges no longer have that option …

    Admittedly the military didn’t manage to straighten them all out … but it did get through to a large number of them …

    Self-discipline, self-respect, respect for others, respect for authority … just a few of the things the military was able to instill in them that they had failed to learn in the civilian world …

    Too bad that old option is off the table now …

  85. #338834
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:04 pm, ldelisle said:

    I can think of 2 punishments that could suffice one send them to Getmo. Tell the marines there just keep them alive. Maybe give them some nice big cross tattoo’s first. Second is to remove their eyes and send them back out on to the streets, and let them be the victims for the rest of their lives. Rest in Peace Bro…..

  86. #338836
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:05 pm, mdgarnett said:

    Reintroduce H.R. 3153: Death Penalty for Cop Killers Act of 2007 with an amendment to add active duty military personnel.

  87. #338842
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm, khan said:

    [Emphasis mine]
    I think that speaks for itself.

    If that was in response to me, I don’t think it really says anything in regards to the military. Do you really think these predators are that aware or involved enough to give two you-know-whats about politics, government, or are military that a typical random robbery and killing is a statement?

    I agree with the poster above who says it was a throwaway line. They would have said the same thing had the guy been a banker, businessman, etc.

  88. #338854
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:23 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    khan,
    No. It was not in reference to anything you said. And no I don’t think they know or care to know anything about politics. I can only go by what the murderer said – everything else is speculation.

  89. #338862
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:35 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    TheSev

    Considering that Parris Island is where I did my training….. even there would be too easy a place for those punks…. hell and only hell works. Of course my brethren and I would be very pleased to arrange the travel to and the domiciling there of the scum….. heh!

  90. #338872
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:48 pm, bjr03 said:

    These are the type of people the death penalty is reserved for.

  91. #338884
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:59 pm, The_Livewire said:

    khan,

    Why is it you can see into their hearts and past their words to see it was a ‘throw away’ line?

  92. #338892
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:10 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Whoozit #78: Yes–evil persists if we say and do nothing–you are exactly correct.
    Semper fi, Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield. Jesus has important duties for you to perform in Heaven. Your fellow vets salute you – and thanks…

  93. #338895
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:16 pm, rightisright said:

    Try ‘em, convict ‘em, sentence them to death……shoot ‘em both in the neck…let ‘em bleed out. I’m a firm believer the perpetrators should suffer the same fate as their victims or as close as possible.

  94. #338901
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm, deepdiver said:

    These are the type of people best served by public execution. Heart-breaking and infuriating all at once. And people feel a need to ask why I made a choice to go armed everywhere I am legally able everyday.

    He stood at the vanguard of this nation’s liberties and freedoms to be shot down in the street by the vermin our PC culture refuses to eradicate. It only serves to deepen the grief over yet another noble man lost.

  95. #338902
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm, terrig said:

    30, on # 73, there was an editorial this morning in the Washington Times about a judge in MD who is well known for cutting sentences of criminals no matter how bad they are (this one had cut three different people’s throats on three different robberies) only to get out and kill a young woman who came in at 1:30 in the morning behind a trash dump at her apartment complex. The system doesn’t make sense does it? I would venture a guess these clowns could be out in 10 years if they keep their noses clean and plead guilty.

  96. #338905
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 pm, Joy said:

    khan and englishqueen – The creep said it himself, with his own mouth that he was killing him because he was a Marine.

    Why you two would argue otherwise, is just beyond me.

    Disgusting.

  97. #338909
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Terrig,
    That is absolutely horrifying. These judges and our elected officials do not have to live with the consequences of their actions or as far as I am concerned – inactions when dealing with criminals. The best they can come up with is giving them a second chance to hurt someone else. Rusty blamed the jails themselves for recidivism… guess we should do away with them altogether. *rolls eyes*

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