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1. #1
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 am, fourstringfuror said:

   Has he retained Ezra Levant as legal counsel?

   Either way, the HRC is about to get a public humiliation like they’ve never known.

2. #2
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 am, gollumclone said:

   Free Speech for liberal and Islamomutants but not for thee. So merely throwing evil-ass imams’ own words back at them reflects badly on the religion and is an attack on said “religion”. Ok, no first amendment in Canada, but Canucks sure like to brag how wonderful life is there with free health care and freedom for terrorists to do what they will or pretty much like that.
   The Human Rights’ Commission should be vilified and prosecuted themselves.

3. #3
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 am, flmom said:

   I enjoyed Ezra Levant’s smackdown of the HRC, looking forward to more of the same.

4. #4
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 am, sonofdy said:

   The thought crime trial begins. Styen and levant should sue the HRC to get thier costs back

5. #5
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 am, Silkyinfamous said:

   See what happens when a government goes too far left? You start having human rights commission for speech. So here.

   Islam is a religion that breeds hate and I can’t think of any reasons or positives for it. It persecutes women and stones them to death when they get raped. That’s just one example. I am tired of sitting down watching those that spread this terror to get more rights and how we have to feel obliged to follow their rules. I don’t CARE about CAIR and no sharia for me.

6. #6
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 am, abstractmind said:

   Here’s hoping that Mark’s trial is a step towards breaking the backs of those who would oppress free speech.

7. #7
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 am, GraniteMan said:

   Ther should be a “Shock and Awe” Campaign started on these low lifes in our country doing things like this to our good people.

8. #8
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 am, FruNobulux said:

   Wonder why I left Canada? Look no further. And this is supposed to be a Conservative government. Although I guess the Progressive part of the name kinda gives it away.

9. #9
   On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 am, sonofdy said:

   “human rights commission for speech”

   America already has them, they just don’t have legal teeth. YET

10. #10
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 am, st_james said:

    Philadelphia speech police:
    Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations
    Google it.

11. #11
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 am, Boomer said:

    I wish Mr. Steyn great success in handing this fascist organization their butts in court.

12. #12
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 am, Christian Soldier said:

    AMERICA ALONE- by Mark Steyn-

    Buy it- it’s the best way of supporting ing him.

    His articles can be found on JWR.

13. #13
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 am, mchristian said:

    Dang, I missed it. What did Steyn say? That Elmasry’s goat was unfaithful?

    Actually, I have been reading about it for months and have enormous respect for Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant.

14. #14
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 am, Terry_Jim said:

    I am praying for his success.

    Dragging Mark Steyn into the HRC is like provoking Rambo into a slap fight.

    Aim center of mass and fire away, Mr.Steyn- figuratively, of course, lest the Kommassars of Kanada take these words as threatening.

    My guess is that they are as offended at a reference to prayer as to gunfire.

15. #15
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 am, Christian Soldier said:
    AMERICA ALONE- by Mark Steyn-

    Buy it- it’s the best way of supporting ing him.

    His articles can be found on JWR.

    Exactly. I picked up a copy on Friday at Barnes & Noble – the look on the cashier’s face was priceless.

16. #16
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm, pdwalker said:

    No one expects the human rights commission.

17. #17
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:28 pm, edb said:

    Just to be accurate, Mark is appearing today in front of the BC Human Rights Tribunal. Contrary to the absurd legal principle that you can only be tried once for a crime, the “Human Rights” commissions allow you to be tried and retried in each of their jurisdictions for the same complaint.

    So Macleans and Mark Steyn were facing complaints accepted by the BC and Canadian HRC’s. In addition, a complaint was filed with the Ontario HRC, which reluctantly decided it didn’t have legal jurisdiction over printed material, but found them guilty anyway.

18. #18
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:10 pm, shooter said:

    I bought two books, one as a gift. He was signing them for free/included with the purchase. Makes a nice gift.

    What a huge asset to America this man has become.

    We’re praying for you Mark.

19. #19
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:17 pm, orlandocajun said:

    This trial is an excellent example of socialism at work and the importance of Article 1 of our constitution. I predict that the idiot liberals in Canada have painted themselves into a corner on this. I don’t think that Canadians are that stupid or submissive.

20. #20
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    We’re praying for you Mark.

    The hate speech nannies are going to a gun fight with boxing gloves. Steyn will make them look so foolish that people will pity them.

21. #21
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:39 pm, rjjago said:

    I was at a rally at the Human Rights Tribunal this morning. Grim day. Low turnout, very depressing, to be honest.
    
    I’ve posted pics and video here.

22. #22
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:49 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    I have got to meet a lot of Canadians in the last year or so, mostly from western Canada. Nice people, friendly and such–but seem to accept what ever the Government wants to do is fine with them. These Canadians will openly admit the Government, courts and commissions run rough shod over their rights–but they often have the attitude Government knows best.
    When talking to them about gun rights they uniformly state “we never had that right, the government never gave it to us”. Free speech seems to fall into that category; it is something the government gives them. What the government gives it can take. The concept of Free Men and Natural Rights does seem to be one of their traits. Government.
    Well God be with Mark Steyn and do pick up his book AMERICA ALONE. Excellent read.

23. #23
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm, Politicalguano said:

    Will the BC Civil Rights Commission BAN the Qur’an? All that talk about killing people who abandon Islam, killing non-believers, specific antisemitic language clearly hateful in tone – surely this cannot be tolerated by the Kangaroos? Then there is Sharia. Shouldn’t all the female Kangaroos in court be banned unless their husband is present or a male family member. And how can they have a woman judge! When will the women be beaten for not wearing modest clothing? Are there any JEWS in the court? Do the plaintiffs not believe it their duty to kill all JEWS? Why are the plaintiffs not on trial? Why is Islam not on trial?

24. #24
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm, lgm said:

    If he’s on trial, odds are that he’s guilty, just like all those detainees at Gitmo. Yup, all guilty.

25. #25
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 pm, omnipotent said:

    Mr. Steyn will baffle and belittle them with his vast intellegence and eloquence and they’ll (Human Rights Commission) be surrendering faster than France.

    Au revoir, loser commissioners!

26. #26
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 pm, terrig said:

    LGM, you’re such a toad. Go back to your indcotrination classes or is school out for summer? No more pencils, no more books, no more ugly troll’s dirty looks. . .

    I agree Omnipotent, he’ll be running rings around them.

27. #27
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    If he’s on trial, odds are that he’s guilty, just like all those detainees at Gitmo. Yup, all guilty.

    Man, you are insufferable.

    Seriously. There’s a *vast* difference between being a terrorist with ties to the groups that want to destroy Western Civilization and pointing out the fact that Islam is a violent religion.

    Steyn’s on trial for thought crimes. I can see how – according to liberals like you, lgm – he’s already guilty because he refuses to subscribe to liberal, politically correct Goodthink.

28. #28
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:51 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    Man, you are insufferable.

    +1

    lgm, you couldn’t stay on point if your depended on it.

    War criminals vs. private citizen

    War crimes vs. free speech

    Muslims who want you dead simply for existing vs. one man who wants to stop them

    Get a life. Get a hobby. Get a girlfriend. Get something, but stop being such a jerk.

29. #29
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm, lgm said:

    One’s thing is clear: nobody at MM.com needs no stinkin’ trials. We know who’s guilty or innocent already.

    Did you see that that Democratic fundraiser was acquitted?

30. #30
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:27 pm, fairyfoose said:

    Already bought Mark Steyn’s book. My husband kept looking at me when I laughed outloud. I don’t know that he’s even read America Alone yet. I’ll need to buy more, give them as gifts for birthday’s, inflict is humor on my Libby
    Sister.

    I seem to recall in an interview with Hugh Hewitt, Mark said the HRC member’s were trying to find a way out of his being brought up on charges. That conversation was a couple of months ago.
    Hugh had asked him to blog from the trial, if possible, though both thought it doubtful.

    Mark, may I also add one more American praying for you. Canada needs it’s conscience raises and it seems to me, you are just the man to do it.

31. #31
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:29 pm, Michelle Admirer said:

    Shouldn’t that be My Sharia Moor?

32. #32
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:30 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On June 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm, lgm said:
    If he’s on trial, odds are that he’s guilty, just like all those detainees at Gitmo. Yup, all guilty.

    Good afternoon lgm. I see you are both in left field and off base again this good day. At least we can all be glad you don’t have a job where you could do real damage, such as truck driving or cooking.

33. #33
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pm, fairyfoose said:

    “lgm”, let’s be clear: just because someone is acquitted in court in America
    it doesn’t mean that they AREN’T guilty.

    The court system ISN’T about justice, it’s about winning and losing. It’s about who is the better tactician and about the leanings of Judges.

    Until we get a way to honesty, INDEPENDENTLY, evaluate Judges and candidates for the office of Judge, we will not have a lot of Judges without “leanings”. We struggle with this issue in the SF Bay area. WHY DO YOU THINK THE DEM’S IN CONGRESS ARE SITTING ON SO MANY CANDIDATES NOMINATIONS that Mr. Bush has put forth?
    In years past, a President’s nominations weren’t held up …not until
    the past few Congresses. THAT is an outrage!

34. #34
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    lgm, you couldn’t stay on point if your depended on it.

    War criminals vs. private citizen

    War crimes vs. free speech

    Muslims who want you dead simply for existing vs. one man who wants to stop them

    Get a life. Get a hobby. Get a girlfriend. Get something, but stop being such a jerk.

    My hat’s off to you, fourstring.

    Brilliant retort.

35. #35
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm, wighttrasch said:

    No one expects the human rights commission.

    Bring me…the comfy chair!
    dumdumDUM

36. #36
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    I do what I can EQ. It just gets really, really old.

37. #37
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    I do what I can EQ. It just gets really, really old.

    I understand. Trying to fight for what’s right in a world that forever is chasing what’s wrong is utterly exhausting some days.

38. #38
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    Trying to fight for what’s right

    It’s that, and the fact that a handful of ugly people just drop in here, throw a few asinine comments out there, completely non sequitir, and then leave. It’s the epitome of inane.

39. #39
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 4:42 pm, right4life said:

    first its illegal to criticize islam…

    then its illegal to not be a muslim….

40. #40
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    lgm doesn’t know the difference between a trial and a CHRC “tribunal”, in which guilt is presumed, and truthfulness is NOT a defense.

    You know those creepy and primitive hybrid animal thingies they show emerging from the sea in Evolution tableaux depicting the rise of humans?

    lgm is the model for that thingie.

41. #41
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:07 pm, diaphanous said:

    yeah lgm, I bet all those gitmo people are the ones that were taken from their dinner tables while spending time innocently with their families..they couldn’t possibly be the ones aiming a gun and killing those on the battle field..no sirree!

    Get a grip. The ones let go from gitmo have already picked up arms against the USA and it’s allies yet again on the battle fields.

42. #42
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 9:25 pm, WORK949 said:

    Sounds and reads like an American Pre-Trial Motions hearing, not at all like a trial yet.

    When does testimony actually start?

    Where’s George Orwell?

43. #43
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm, libocrat said:

    I’m confused? What is Steyn supposed to be “guilty” of?

    “no no no no, God Damn Canada, God Damn Canada, God Damn Canada….it’s right there in the Q’ran…….”.

    Steyn did what??

44. #44
    On June 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 pm, havok said:

    Dude has a British accent…he will smoke their arses….

    Go Steyn!!!

45. #45
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 am, garyt said:

    LGM is a liar,,, He keeps telling us about abortion clinics being bombed by rightwingers and as of yet I have not seen any of this on the news. If the nation ever turned Islam the LGM types would be the first to lose their heads because they would be considered traitors and could not be trusted in any islamic gov’t. Watch your neck LGM you never know what will happen.

46. #46
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 7:06 am, Janne said:

    This trial is an excellent example of socialism at work and the importance of Article 1 of our constitution. I predict that the idiot liberals in Canada have painted themselves into a corner on this. I don’t think that Canadians are that stupid or submissive.

    I wouldn’t hold my breath though. Here in Finland, we have already had a few Internet “hate crime” show trials with all convictions. Seems the leftest media (which is pretty much we only have) does not even care.

    One of the cases had some English covarege (e.g., here). The latest trial (with no English covarage AFAIK) was held just last week. A man, who would have been in the old times described simply as “crazy”, was convicted for 2,5 years in prison (more than a serial rapist usually gets here) for “libel” and “breach of freedom of worship”. A part of the court proceedings (in full here (in Finnish)):

    6. USKONRAUHAN RIKKOMINEN

    21.9.2005 TAMPERE

    B ja A ovat ainakin syyskuusta
    2005 lukien yhdessä ja yksissä tuumin yleisön keskuuteen
    levittäneet lausuntoja ja muita tiedonantoja, joissa he
    ovat loukkaamistarkoituksessa julkisesti herjanneet ja
    häpäisseet sitä, mitä uskonnonvapauslaissa (267/1922)
    tarkoitetut islamilaiset uskonnolliset yhdyskunnat
    pitävät pyhänä.

    B ja A ovat laatineet ja toimittaneet
    internetissä yleisön saataville
    suursuomalainen.blogspot.com -nimetyn sivuston sekä
    tanjakarpela.blogspot.com -nimetyn sivuston, jossa
    esitetään Allahia tai profeetta Muhammadia kuvaavia
    hahmoja sekaantumassa eläimiin ja kamelin, jonka
    takapuolessa on profeetta Muhammadia kuvaava hahmo, sekä
    tanjakarpela.blogspot.com -nimetyn sivuston, jossa
    vastaavankaltainen kuva.

    My bad translation (legal texts are hard to translate, hopefully you get the idea):

    6. Breach of freedom of worship

    21.9.2005 TAMPERE

    B and A have together, since at least September 2005, distributed statements and other notices, in which they have publicly, with intent to hurt, slandered and profaned that, what islamic religious communities, as recognized by the freedom of religon act (267/1922), consider holy.

    B and A have together prepared and edited for public availability in Internet a webpage named suursuomalainen.blogspot.com and a tanjakarpela.blogspot.com-named web page, where it is shown characters describing Allah or prophet Mohammed having sex with animals, and [there is also] a camel on whose buttocks it is drawn a character describing prophet Mohammed, and additionally a webpage named tanjakarpela.blogspot.com with a similar drawing.

    Of course, there are plenty of similar drawings about Jesus and Christian God, but they have not lead even to investigation for last 40 years…

    The latest turn in the case was that yesterday the prosecutor and police adviced (here, in Finnish) “those who have been offended by the convicted man” to contact directly Google for the “removement of the pages from Internet” as the pages are on American servers and “likely protected by American freedom of speech laws”, and therefore inquiry by the authories would not result into the removement of the pages!

    Thank God for your first amendment, it is protecting the freedom of speech even outside your borders!

47. #47
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 9:39 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    SHOW TRIAL DAY TWO at marksteyn.com. Also a good place to buy his book if you haven’t already. Should I buy one for lgm?

    I am going to have to subscribe to that Maclean Magazine and see what all the fuss is about.

48. #48
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 10:33 am, fourstringfuror said:

    On June 3rd, 2008 at 7:06 am, Janne said:

    Come to the US. Europe is a lost cause, as you well know. Eurabia will become reality in my lifetime, unless something drastic happens soon. A dying native population, astronomically high cost of social services, utter moral decay, and a booming Muslim population spell disaster for Europe as we know it. There are neighborhoods in Europe where burkas are required. 40% of Rotterdam’s population is Muslim.

    Thank God for God(!), guns, and America.

49. #49
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm, Janne said:

    Europe is a lost cause, as you well know. Eurabia will become reality in my lifetime, unless something drastic happens soon.

    You may well be right. Something is definitely rotten here, I suppose you read the latest news from France:
    

    A French court has fined former film star Brigitte Bardot 15,000 euros (£12,000) for inciting racial hatred.
    —
    The fine – equivalent to $23,000 – related to a letter she wrote in December 2006 to the then Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, which was published on her website, in which she deplored the slaughter of animals for the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha.

    She demanded that the animals be stunned before being killed.

    She said she was “tired of being led by the nose by this population that is destroying us, destroying our country by imposing its acts”.

    BTW, there is now an English blog post about the case I described earlier today:
    Finnish blogger sentenced for two years

50. #50
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:00 pm, fairyfoose said:

    Thank God for your first amendment, it is protecting the freedom of speech even outside your borders!

    Whoa, Janne! That brings me to tears. We
    have an election here in California today. Canada needs to vote out small minded people like this. It’s hard to imagine that even Canada gives it’s Citizens grief about Freedom of Speech.
    I wish Mark could make some ringing retort. But with such small minds, people who are only interested in their
    sphere of influence, their power, hope is the best I can do. It might not help
    his case to abuse these dim bulbs.

51. #51
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Shouldn’t lgm have to come here with a little baggie and a pooper scooper?

52. #52
    On June 21st, 2008 at 1:57 am, USpace said:

    .
    Good points. Thank God our rights are much stronger in America. For now anyway. We all must help Canadian bloggers get this out to the world. Bludgeon the HRC through the blogosphere, continue to mock and expose their lawbreaking. We must keep educating people about this stuff so we stay far away from that PC craziness.

    This whole Steyn, Levant and the Canadian bloggers V Mark Warman thing may end up being the beginning of the first death knell, the beginning of the end of the HRC’s lawless actions. Or not.

    Canada’s Supreme Court and Parliament will eventually be getting involved I imagine. I certainly hope so.

    Let real Lawyers battle it out in argument. Of course the Left doesn’t want this. They know they have the weaker case.

    I can’t wait to see a tape of Steyn in front of the commission. The one with Ezra Levant was a real hoot. Ezra skewered them.

    Mark Steyn is totally excellent, someone MUST give him his own show! We should all go hear him speak if we ever get the chance.
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    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe likes
    human rights commissions

    that violate human rights
    while claiming to protect them

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe hates
    real freedom of speech

    an American concept
    which is NOT for Canada

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    All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. If there is no freedom of speech, then there can be no real freedom.
    .
    Why Does Canada Allow Human Rights Commission and Richard Warman to KILL True Free Speech?
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    Philosophy of Liberty Cartoon
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    Help Halt Terrorism Now!
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    USpace