Only 13 GOP Senators voted against the Lieberman-Warner green boondoggle
Keeping you up to date: I told you this morning about the Lieberman-Warner “climate change” boondoggle. At 6:25pm Eastern tonight, the Senate voted on the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S.3036 ). It passed 74-14, with 12 not voting.
Thirteen GOP senators plus Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (yes, Robert Byrd) opposed the massive eco-pork bill that would perpetuate the carbon offset/cap-and-trade fraud.
And here are the no-shows:
Debate resumes on the Senate floor tomorrow.
Keep an eye on McCain.
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Greg Mueller sends some choice quotes from the debate earlier today:
Senator Sessions: “It will make american businesses less competitive in the world, and it will surely damage our economy. It will also be, as everyone who looks at it will admit, a secret, sneaky tax. It’s a tax of about $7 trillion on the American people.”
Senator Inhofe: “We as Republicans believe any legislation that attempts to address climate change must protect American families and must protect U.S. workers and has to maintain global fairness. Finally, offer clean energy solutions…I find it most difficult to vote to proceed to the largest tax increase in the history of America. The mechanics of this bill, the impacts, the costs have never been fully debated and they deserve to be.”
Senator Bond: “We should pursue cutting carbon emissions. but we can’t slash family budgets, knock farmers and workers out of jobs and out of productive revenue. At a time when Americans are suffering record pain at the pump, high energy costs, mortgage costs, a soft economy, I am very very concerned about raising energy prices on our families and workers.”
Senator Boxer: “The fact of the matter, we wouldn’t lock our child in a hot car, you know, in front of a supermarket. We cannot consign the next generation to a hot planet.”
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Read Chris Horner at Planet Gore to see the green slush fund in action. (See also here.)
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KKK Byrd doesn’t believe in Gorebal Warming? Huh, and i thought he was senile.
Well The reoublicans wanted this to be debated because the word is that Bluedog dems will NOT vote for it and the democrats will be embarrased by the defeat
Had to look up the article
here
The much-hyped global warming bill before the Senate this week is probably doomed, so the debate will be largely about political positioning and spin.
Republicans are poised to allow a key procedural vote to pass this evening to allow debate on the bill, largely because they are confident that the climate change legislation, with its controversial cap and trade policy for emissions, will die on a final vote.
I am terribly embarrssed that my Georgia senators did not vote against this bill. Up until now, they have been more than modestly conservative. I have issues with their vote. So sad to see otherwise intelligent people go by the wayside of greed and influence.
Disgusting! Throw every one who voted for this abomination out of office.
I used to have admiration for Lieberman. Never again. I don’t care what he does for the rest of his life.
Senator Boxer: “The fact of the matter, we wouldn’t lock our child in a hot car, you know, in front of a supermarket. We cannot consign the next generation to a hot planet.”
Boxer is completely insane if she believes this. I wonder if anyone will notice?
Even the phony UN projections only predict an increase of a few degrees.
Thanks Senator Allard, we can usually count on you.
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This 7 TRILLION dollar filled waste basket is insanity. I really don’t even know what to say other than Washington has gone too far.
Between illegal immigration, the JIHAD’s killing us ( tho we cant say that) and this …”Lieberman-Warner will redistribute over $5.6 trillion “???
DC Senators, you guys have lost your minds, most of you.
Thanks to those who didn’t bend ….
This is only the beginning of what we’ll see with McCain as the head of the party.
Another self-inflicted wound to the USA. With the politicians we have it will not take “a thousand cuts” to bring down this great country but simply several hundred elected fools. Make your vote count people.
Sigh people please read my earlier comments theGOP wanted to keep debate open because they know that this bill had no chance of passing and they want to embarass the democrats on it.
We need to mobilize 10 million people to walk on Washington and finally tell these friggin politicians whose in charge. Enough already. I vote for one week from this Friday. If 10 million people did walk on DC they really would listen. I think?
To see what a mess S.2191 really is, check out the graphic <a href=”
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Essentially, it has the EPA managing the economy. With the promised squeeze on industry, oil, refining, cement, and most other energy intensive operations; the only work we will have left is for Ms. Boxer.
My bad…
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Thank goodness the two Senators from my home state of AL showed some sense and backbone. Maybe Alabama’s not so backward after all.
William Amos: What is the source of the information on which you base your assertion?
Bob69: Yeah, I thought our Senators had more sense, especially after the scare we gave them last year over the Shamnesty bill.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Sometimes, things aren’t always as they seem.
As in this case…nutty Republicans. ;o)
Little Ma,
The link is in his post #3.
It didn’t have any lasting effect on the shamnesty issue once Congress got over the shock of having their mailboxes inundated and all their electronic communications means melted down.
… and every day they call asking for money.
Did Boxer really say that?
Here is Frank Zappa’s take on California’s Flakes
This is insanity, the world is going to hell in hand basket and the politicians are selling us all out.
Cartoon from IBD
http://ibdeditorials.com/cartoons.aspx
“*The temperature on Mars has increased 0.5-degrees Celsius since the 1970s
*What’s the cause of this?
*The same thing is happening on Earth
*& Earth just landed another space probe on Mars
*In fact, humans have been sending space probes here since the 1970s
*Well, that proves it: ‘Global Warming’ is man-made”
by Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist, IBD’s Michael Ramirez
kakypat,
Thanks. I should have noticed that link!
Who is McCain going to appoint to head the EPA Wesely Mouch?
William Amos, if you got 10m people to march on DC, they’d have their private police force arrest the lot of them for exhaling too much. Sure, for now, the arrestees would be released for lack of cause, but…
They’d then quickly pass legislation limiting the number of future protesters for the “sake of the planet.”
This whole “debate” has gotten so surreal — I always figured if we lost our country it would be due to external forces, not idiots within. But lose it we will with this kind of dialogue presented as thought…
The rulers of this country are bound and determined to commit suicide, one way or another. Which is fine by me, but must they murder the country along with it?
As for what McCain thinks about this Crap-and-Tirade bill — seriously, is there any doubt? He and that eco-clown Lieberman are virtual clones of one another. Indeed, I can think of only one difference between them: Lieberman supports partial birth abortion and McCain doesn’t — i.e. until such time as he sees it as a way to “reach out” to democrats. That’s what’s left of the Republicans.
My letter to my Senator:
Clinton, McCain, Obama all missed the vote.
Do you get paid for skipping work in order to find another job?
Fred5676, there was a concensus in the Senate that Saddam Hussein had WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION. Remember Horseface-Heinz voting for the WAR, before voting against it.
Concensus?? Isn’t there a “CONCENSUS” in POLLS that this is the WORST CONGRESS in HISTORY??
Why haven’t global temperatures risen in the last 10 years?
Boxer is a disgrace and a lunatic.
So are half or you.
The funny (tragic?) thing about this whole thing is the “debate”. There is NO SUCH THING as man made global warming OR climate change. The only thing happening to the earth is….what has been happening for-effing-ever. It’s proven that the earth is cooling for the last 10 years and they change the “crisis” to climate change and don’t miss a beat. WTF are these idiots in “our” government, and how are they still there? I forget the author, but I love the analogy: we have got to get a handle on the unicorn problem, or we’re in big trouble!
Where was the normally reliably conservative Thune of South Dakota? He can’t be voting for this baloney.
Norm Coleman must go as Senator of Mn along with Klobochump.Coleman was only a Republican so that he could get elected. Never, ever trust a turncoat. A Democrat turned Republican is worse than a Webb type Republican turning Democrat.
This bill is a disgusting. It is pork laden disaster for this country. If this monstrosity passes, it won’t matter if Obamanation gets elected. It will already be “game over man” for the US. We will soon all be standing in bread lines like were living in 1950’s Poland. This is collectivist rationing of energy.
Here’s one groups solution to this…
http://www.carbonbelchday.com/
Paul - Remember, Boxer is the one who thinks women should be able to euthenize their babies up to the point where they ‘take them home from the hospital.’ So no, no one will notice as that was a normal comment for her.
I and many others have said that if politicians could figure out a way, they’d tax the very air we breathe… well, they did it, they found a way.
Every day a new leftist treat… and all with the little GOP rubber stamp of approval. *sigh*
And McCain has come out in favor of Cap and Trade. He’s up to his eyeballs on this one.
Barbara Boxer.. nuff said
forgive California and the hoaxsters,
America.
Raising taxes and getting people to go along is such a delicate business, stealing money was never easy. It’s too bad that it’s beginning to look like that is all our Representatives want to do any more.
AGW — Just a fancy name for tax and spend. Pay more in taxes and government will pretend to control the weather. How dumb do you have to be before you can figure that out?
Barabar Boxer must spend $10,000 a month on up-keep. She looks positively funny, a 68 year old fossil dolled up like a teeny bopper. How weird is that, how vain do you have to be to do that to yourself.
Damned how I despise the trifecta of loser women this state elected.
They are trying to kill the rest of the US like they condemned California to a socialist paradise.
When are we going to learn????
I’m not too sure about KBH anymore since she went wobbly on the border, but I still trust Cornyn. We’ll see what happens when the bill is debated and they vote cloture.
These are Senators folks, and this is what our options are for President?
But McCain is better than letting Obama win (insert whining, pathetic, loser voice).
Wrong! Senators are self loving politicats from DC that only love their parties and money.
As for some republican trickery here to make the Dems look bad, hah! First and foremost, if even the majority of the GOP don’t vote Yea, this still moves on. And who is it that is going to hold the Democrats feet to the fire? The media? The GOP, ha ha ha. Refer to my opening paragraph, they are Senators.
Furthermore, it is not like this is uncharacteristic for the pukes we call our republicans and strategy is not their strong point, sorry, don’t think they “let” the dems win here.
Simon, don’t think I am picking on your here, because actually, I would like to be a part of your 10 million. But instead of “marching” if you can get 10 million people together, why don’t they all VOTE for someone different. If we mobilize 10 million voters to vote someone besides Obama or McCain, then we are getting somewhere. Plus I don’t have to go to DC then.
My new bumper sticker,”Cut CO2 emissions,Plug a Volcano”
Barbara Boxer is an unalloyed idiot, although I must admit that she does have a certain lowbrow instinct for demagoguery.
Is America actually going to stand idly by and allow the Lieberman-Warner disaster to be inflicted on our beloved country?
Is it not possible to set these senatorial doofuses’ ears on fire like we did last year on the McAmnesty bill?
You know, with “your calls, your wires” as Ted Kennedy put it last year?
Another way to tax the American people, through the guise of “saving the planet”. Of course, when the massive “global warming” doesn’t come about, they will go to their podiums and state, “See? It worked!” By then, the American dream and freedom will be forever gone.
The irony of John Warner is that he was elected in 1978 as a conservative from Virginia. He has moved left over the last 10 years to the point that he is John McCain’s twin on issues.
I guess this John hung around Elizabeth Taylor too long…..
Bob69,
I too am sickened by the Georgia Senators’ lack of sand. I saw someone wrote that they are now taxing the air we breathe.
What needs to be asked (other than who the he11 do you people in DC think you are) is, “What happens to the money?” Will there be visible signs that 7 Trillion dollars is moving towards clean energy? OK, everyone, stop laughing, that was rhetorical. We all know thats a load of road apples.
This money will be diverted for further pork or directly in to the hands of some California company run by Communist wannabees who aren’t good enough at real Capitalism to earn an honest buck so they screw the rest of us out of ours.
What it really breaks down to with these conservative senators is the same thing happening in our schools; the kids are being told that being green makes you a kind, caring, thoughtful person. The inverse then implies you’re a bad person. Period. What the media/academic community’s label on conservatives as being mean, selfish heartless people, I guess these senators are trying to show all just how good they really are.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Republicans have not won, cannot win, and will not win, as long as they follow the Democrat’s on their efforts to destroy America.
I am one who will not vote Republican until we get some clearly defined conservative leadership.
So what’s stopping you–or for that matter any other poster who habitually gripes about the lack of principled conservative leadership–from stepping forward into a leadership position?
And Republicans wonder why things are looking bad for them in November.
They’re clueless.
I’m glad my two, Tom Coburn and James Inhofe, voted against it.
Once again my TN Senator Corker for whom I mistakenly voted because he passed himself off as a conservative, fails to deliver the goods. The other TN Senator Lamar has long been a lost cause.
This is why those who say voting for the lesser of two evils is our only choice, are just plain wrong. All you get is further away from what you had hoped to accomplish. All you get is more evil. Those who say “Half a loaf is better than none” are wrong - we’re not getting half a loaf. They are not sustaining us, as does half a loaf - they are hurting us. The lesser of two evils is only cutting off one arm instead of both. If one candidate is going to cut off both arms, and the other proposes cutting off only one - How about cutting off no arms instead? Why do I have to vote for the one who says he’ll cut off only one arm??
What you and far too many other idiots, dem and repub alike, don’t realize is you don’t have any say in the matter. Pass all the legislation you want, it will not allow you to control the climate.
KKK Byrd doesn’t believe in Gorebal Warming? Huh, and i thought he was senile.
On Barbara Boxer, you know they say Meg Whitman (former CEO eBay; Romney supported turned McCain campaigner) would be interested in running for Governor of California.
I think I’d rather see Whitman take on Boxer when she’s up for re-election. Boxer’s gotta go the way of her in-laws (there’s some intermarriage somewhere there) the Clintons, and fade off into the sunset.
By the time these people are done with us there won’t be any food in that supermarket and no gas in that car to get there anyhow. But the kid will still be smoldering in the hot car cause that will be the only place the family can afford to live!!
My last drop of gas will be used to get to my Senators lawn. That’s where I will live, in my car till the day I die, probably at the hand of the gubmint.
William, I hope you are right. My comment: When is a tax not a tax?
Menopausal insanity?
Yep. I figured my two Senators, Alexander and Corker, would be voting for this crap.
What a flippin’ disgrace. Corker claimed his “conservative” credential, when he ran for office in 2006, as did Alexander in 2002. Liars, the lot of them in D.C.
It is my belief that the only reason Sen. Lautenberg did not sign this bill is due to his bid for re-election.
His opponent is a Democrat as well.
Sigh. Little red dots in a big blue sea.
This bill has affectionately been called.. “The India/China Full Employment Act” because it is going to cause a mass migration of that many jobs to over there and cause mass unemployment/inflation..etc back here.
I just sent an email to Sen. Martinez from Florida (forget about Nelson, he is a lost cause). I told him that he has become a great disappointment to me as he votes with Dems. I am sure it will do no good, he just doesn’t get! I won’t be voting for him again.
Boxer, Pelosi, Feinstein, 9th Circuit Court, Arnold, Illegal Aliens, legalized gay marriage…Can anyone think of a reason that we should not give California back to Mexico?
Why does everyone assume he pressed the right button?
I’m imagining what thousands of squatters would do to the giant redwoods…it would be sad, but it would also be funny to watch the illegal-alien sanctuary libs and the ecowhacko libs fight over what should be done.
Kudos to Senators McConnell and Bunning for being in the nay column, and perhaps saving from complete annihilation what little the eco-terrorist have allowed KY to keep of its once lucrative coal and timber industries.
This is going to result in the most massive law suit EVER….eventually they will stumble across the evidence that the sun is putting out more energy….warming….the only thing our….leaders…will be able to do…is sue the sun….should be interesting….perhaps we should start electing capable people to represent us?
If the earth is in fact “warming,” than what is its ideal temperature?
I’m experiencing climate change right now; spring is turning into summer.
What will the wise congress and Joe Lieberman do about that?
The congress is NOW showing its true colors. They can not turn the US into a 3rd world nation fast enough. Instead of solving problems that help the average working class citizen, they are doing everything to make sure he ends up a ward of the state.
For people who don’t believe in conspiracies. Explain this!
I’m sure happy about being from Oklahoma on this one. Actually, my senators are pretty constantly on the conservative side.
If your children are professionals in science, computers, math or engineering, they better start planning on living and working in India or China. That is where all these jobs will be.
We have a conspiracy of the socialist democrats allying with the globalist capitalistic republicans, and they are doing what fits their common global interests.
Meanwhile we are footing the bill. If we don’t wake up, we will no longer recognize this country. Our cities are already looking like Mexico City.
I am pleasantly surprised by Senator wide stance Craig’s Nay vote on this stuck on stupid piece of legislation. Senator Crapo’s people are going to get an ear full today. Congress just keeps bending us over time and time again no wonder the Jihadist haven’t hit us again, why stop someone from committing suicide by killing them first. Let them do the hard work for you.
I truly believe we are at the point where we once again have taxation without representation. Since our Congress critters no longer listen to the unwashed masses in an election year and most of the idiots in this country are stupid enough to keep putting them back into office the time is coming for a second revolutionary uprising by the few sane people left in the country. Maybe we can get most of us bitter Bible and gun toting people in flyover country to succeed from the Union. I am completely disgusted in this poor excuse for a government we are stuck with.
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Hopefully the nay votes will draw attention to the fact that this measure does nothing to free us from the noose of OPEC but draws the knot even tighter.
Maybe then cooler heads will prevail and this measure stopped or at least reworked to recognize that until we have a viable source of alternative fuels, America must make use of the abundant supply of fossil fuel and natural resources at its disposal, all within its borders and in copious amounts, or else forever be at the mercy of OPEC.
Ben Lieberman debunks the myths of the Lieberman-Warner bill here. Interesting read.
My Senators are idiots, McCaskill (the elderly abuser) and Bond (the drunk) and Bond is supposed to be a conservative, ha. I won’t vote for either one of these morons or anyone who buys into this sh!t science. unbelievable.
Only because Bush has promised a veto. But the next President will be a fan of this bill. If it’s McCain, a BIG fan. So this will pass next year.
Well,if I have anything to say about it,John Warner will be fondly remembered as merely one of Elizabeth Taylor’s ex-serial-husbands…and given his singular lack of legislative accomplishment during his tenure in the Senate,and his utter and profound ignorance about the actual mechanics of climate,that is about the best he can hope for and more than he deserves
Good to see my Senator Jim DeMint on the right side of this one.
All life respirates. The conversion of food + oxygen = life + water vapor. Even photosynthetic plants use oxygen, although they use less than they liberate from CO2.
Mark this: it will not be long before we each have a card that allows us to “release CO2″ - a “right to live” card.
As a person with a progressing condition that at times currently leaves me wheelchair-bound, but will eventually perm. confine me to it, I fully expect in not too distant a day, getting a call informing me I produce too much CO2 vis-a-vis my contribution to the “Global Village” and so my “Carbon Footprint” privledges are being revoked.
Well, they’d best send lots of marshals to take my card — or wait until the paralysis is complete…
- martin.musculus
Here in Janesville, GM is closing their plant.
It will devestate the town economically. Watch to see what happens in Janesville, then imagine this on a national scale.
Environmentalists won’t be happy until we just curl up and die. Taking away manufacturing jobs will pretty much guarantee families will go hungry and without basic necessities.
Way to go.
When does the next revolution begin?
Oh, and an interesting tidbit. Remember those PETA ads that tried to scare the living hell out of kids? Now, the eco-nuts are doing the same thing with carbon footprints.
Check this out.
It’s called “Planet Slayer” and it asks kids about their lifestyle and tells them when they need to die in order to offset their carbon footprint.
I answered the questions for my son, who’d have to die when he’s 9.8 years old in order to offset his footprint.
This is absolute BS.
Amos #2, very insightful and a relief, I sleep better last night with your post in mind. Here is some more good news:
Per Drudge/Ruters UK/Deborah Zabarenko, Environment Correspondent:
So, lemme’ see if I got this straight…
The ONLY ONES voting against this bill are Republicans. (an’ one goofy donk)
Yet, we get a daily hissy-fit about Poopy-head Republicans.
Wannit BOTH ways, do we?
Only 13 Republicans voted against this insanity.
The GOP is resembling the DNC more and more. We want the GOP to return to real conservative values, instead of clinging to this asinine stuff.
The following is a must add to Al Gore children bed time gobal warming horror stories:
What we want is for our leaders to follow truth and principle. Don’t worry comrade, the majority of us on here don’t believe WE have leaders. The GOP is just another club we don’t belong in.
I have an idea.
DRILL FOR MORE OIL!!!!!!
USE SHALE OIL!!!!!!
BUILD MORE REFINERIES!!!!
Nothing to do with this bill, but it would be more helpfull to americans.
All I have to say is…
See what happens, when you stay home on election day.
But what we would do is lock our child in their bedroom in January with the heat off, give away their clothes and toys to other people, feed them stale bread and water and still expect them to make 20 wallets a day for us to sell. That will help the next generation.
This is just a TASTE, of what’cher’ in for.
Isn’t there some worth to the idea of pushing this bill onto the floor for open debate? As it is now there has been almost zero ‘debate’ and only within a few lib controlled / slanted hearings. At least now the truth can see the light of day and hopefully many senators will finally hear it; (for example, how many of them actually know that it hasn’t warmed since 1998 directly opposite to the IPCC model prediction?) If this bill had died without getting cloture then there would likely be even more court actions like the SCOTUS forcing the EPA to regard CO2 as a ‘pollutant’. We certainly do not need more of those.
Is there a silver lining in this dark cloud?
My two senators, Inhofe, and Coburn voted against this horrible bill. Thank God for them!!
This whole global warming scam makes me so angry. And We the People seem to have nothing to say about it.We are being bulldozed at every turn by our Congress. I hope that everyone who voted for this bill is voted out of office. We need to start fresh with a Congress that has brains. These idiots now don’t study a thing, they listen to lobbiests, and those that might get them some votes, and to heck with the people they are hurting.
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Wait’ll a Donk controlled congress, AND a Donk executive, gets done with yo’ li’l stay-at-home asses.
The only real problem is that the “truth” is and has been well exposed and if anyone knows it, it is the politicians. The worst thing we can do as people is think our politicans are dumb. They are some of the smartest deceivers any of us will every know (or hopefully not know). When a liberal cries that tax cuts are for the rich, they know they are not, but they also know plenty of morons in the crowd will believe them. Same here.
Our DC crowd, especially our Senators have moved well beyond trying to convince or impress us. They are much more concerned with our international image and all of them want to be on board as leaders of the New World.
There’s fundamentally NO DIFFERENCE between any of the current elected crop of do-nothing legislative parasites. They are all corrupt and counter to the principles of freedom.
GM announced that it’s closing 3 plants.
The SUV and TRUCK market are down.
Thousands of lost lib jobs.
Good work libs. Sell that corn gas. Sell the global warming, don’t drill for our own oil.
Great work libs. UNION YES!!
Looks like both of my two TX senators voted for this gosh horrible bill. Sorry we have them representing my state.
L
I am very much looking forward to voting against Mel Martinez. If only the 17th amendment were repealed; I would love to see it.
Uh, no. How is that wanting it both ways? You think 13 is some kind of supermajority?
Wait for it, the fart tax is coming. Methane is a HUGE “greenhouse” gas and we have HUGE herds of farm anaimals. Don’t believe me? Look it up. It will come under argocultural emmissions. One group is already calling for a meat based tax and of course a push to convert us all to becaome vegans.
sonofdy
I heard on the news yesterday that scientists are saying that eating bugs are good for the environment and good for us. Next thing you’ll hear is there is a drastic shortage of insects, and they’ll be on the endangered species list. It really hurts the brain to think liberal.
Senator Boxer has clearly never been to North Dakota or Minnesota, where the snow only melted two weeks ago.
Can someone tell me how much global temperatures have gone up in the last 10 years??
You, see, I’m very worried about Barbara Boxers grandchildren.
SEC. 3703. DISTRIBUTION.
(a) In General- Taking into account the report prepared under section 3702(a), the Secretary of Agriculture shall establish, by regulation, a program under which agricultural and forestry allowances may be distributed to entities that carry out projects on agricultural and forest land that achieve real, verifiable, additional, permanent, and enforceable greenhouse gas emission mitigation benefits.
(b) Nitrous Oxide and Methane- The Secretary of Agriculture shall ensure that, during any 5-year period, the average annual percentage of the quantity of remainder emission allowances that is distributed to entities under the program established under subsection (a) specifically for achieving real, verifiable, additional, permanent, and enforceable reductions in nitrous oxide emissions through soil management or achieving real, verifiable, additional, permanent, and enforceable reductions in methane emissions through enteric fermentation and manure management shall be 0.5 percent.
(c) Requirement- The Secretary of Agriculture shall distribute emission allowances under this section in a manner that maximizes the avoidance or reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.
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Right from the bill. Thats right, they will be regulating cow poo. See highlighted area. COW POO will be regulated under this bill. WOW