Pfleger: “America is the greatest sin against God;” new “statement” to come?
More video of Rev. Michael “Vanilla Ice” Pfleger’s race-baiting sermon last week at Trinity United Church of Christ has emerged on YouTube. Boy, was he on a roll. If you thought his bug-eyed, Jeremiah Wright wannabe mimickry of Hillary Clinton’s “white entitlement” was over the top, you’ll love the new excerpts in which Pfleger inveighs that “America is the greatest sin against God.” (”God damn America” was already taken, of course.)
My question is: What will it take for the Catholic Church to cut themselves loose of this racial huckster? “Have the balls” to fire him already. (See also Catholics against Pfleger.)
(Hat tip - HA headlines. More here.)
Pfleger is complaining about “ugly” rhetoric–and is promising to make a statement today. Chutzpah:
The Rev. Michael Pfleger, who helped reignite Barack Obama’s pastor problems by mocking Hillary Clinton, said this evening he’s received “thousands of hate threats” since his videotaped pulpit rant.
“They want to kill me,” Pfleger told parishioners during a service in a St. Sabina Church chapel on Chicago’s South Side this evening. “It’s been very ugly.”
In his brief comments this evening, Pfleger did not name any candidates, and said he would address the controversy at a Sunday mass at St. Sabina.
“I’m not going to make a statement,” Pfleger told the crowded chapel. “My real statement will be tomorrow.”
But he did say it’s been a difficult week filled with an unspecified surgery on Tuesday and a deluge of threats.
“It’s a very difficult situation,” he said. “I’ve received thousands of hate threats.”
He did not offer any specifics from the pulpit, and declined through an aide to comment further. That included declining a specific request by the Sun-Times for a comment on Obama’s decision to leave Trinity church.
Meanwhile: The Axelrod-Pfleger connection.
Obama, for his part, continues to rely on his apologist talking point about how all of his men of bad faith are being quoted out of context.
In what context does “America is the greatest sin against God” not sound like the demagogic spewing that it is?
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James Lewis at the American Thinker presses the Catholic Church:
Father Pfleger brings public scandal to the Church. He clearly and obviously, on videotape, preaches racial hatred. He does so with plenty of prior rehearsal and maybe coaching, in order to sound just like race-baiting ole’ Reverend Wright, who has apparently been conducting a school for race baiters over at Trinity United. The Democrat Party of Chicago, Louis Farrakhan, the whole den of thieves of the Illinois Democrat Machine has obviously known about this for decades. The radical Left and ACORN (Obama’s “community organizing” radicals) must have known all about it. The Obamas were up to their necks in guilty knowledge. The Clintons knew. Everybody knew…
…Does the Catholic Church recognize any responsibility to deal with Father Pfleger? Do the words of Vatican II mean anything in practice?
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Our friend Tennyson Hayes was inspired to contribute another Obama photoshop to commemorate all the under-the-bus activity of late:
Who’s next?
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A Reuters photographer tries to give Obama his glow back. Click on it on an empty stomach.
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Now now arnold ziffel don’t going using the term “whitey”. There is a chance Mrs. Barrack Hussein Obama has a copyright on the term “whitey”. We wouldn’t want to offend Mrs. Barrack Hussein Obama now that she is finally proud of her country, would we?
Of course if her husband WAS to get shot while at the gas station it most likely would not be “whitey” that did it, but “whitey” would be blamed sur nuff suga pie.
And now I wait to hear from Mrs. Barrack Hussein Obama’s lawyers. See what you started arnold ziffel?
I have yet to hear anyone in the Media ask Sen. Obama about the Black Value System all members of this church must support and endorse to be a member of this church.
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
This is where Rev. Wright and Rev. Moss get the material for their sermons that they have been preaching at the church.
I also found it interesting that while they said Rev. Wright retired, he is still listed as the Pastor at this church if you go to their website also.
For the delegate counters. The superdelegates can change their mind up to the time they actuall vote. If no one wins after 1 vote, everyone can change their mind.
The counts right now mean very little if Hillary continues to fight to the convention. She may be on life support, but she is not dead.
Super delegates. What’s so SUPER about them. Who decides who is SUPER and whom isn’t? It reeks of the MASTER RACE.
WINK.
On June 2nd, 2008 at 1:14 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
Of course if her husband WAS to get shot while at the gas station it most likely would not be “whitey” that did it, but “whitey” would be blamed sur nuff suga pie.
‘corse it would be whitey’s fault… whitey’s the one put the poor downtrodden “non-whiteys” in such a sad economic and cultural state that they have no choice but to go off and be shootin’ each other… It’s Benjamin Franklin and T. Jefferson’s fault… didn’t you know?
It wasn’t that long ago that Imus was slapped 6 ways to sunday for making a joke about the Rutgers women’s basketball team. The liberal left went on such a witchhunt to permanently ruin him for his insensitive remarks. Fast forward to the raging, hate spewing preachers, who want to be spared because they claim they were taken out of context. Give me a break! I have noooo… sympathy.
Food for thought…
IF McCain wins it, will the 2 reverends, Oblahma, and Susan Surrandon all move to Italy?
I’ll help them pack.
To hear these race mongers you have to believe racism by whites against blacks is more prevalent today than in the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s and 60’s.
To hear them you have to believe nothing has changed and blacks have no opportunities and no hope in this country.
To hear them you would have to believe blacks are being dragged into the streets and beaten by groups of white people and nothing is being done to stop it.
To borrow from our good friend Hillary, you would have to have a willing suspension of disbelief.
What do you expect. It was your ‘I have a Ream’ speech that did it.
Oh Ship. Now it looks as if it is one on one. I hope McCain can watch his temper.
Bill Clinton hints at end to wife’s campaign
Hello, I’m Peter Lemongello, your house is on fire.
Some Catholics will tell you that Vatican II is the root of the problems in the Church today.
I think most people are aware of the priest shortage, so they won’t fire him on whim.
It’s unfortunate that Rev. Pfleger has been threatened.
I’m really beginning to wonder how he even got into this, and that the Illinois media completely overlooked this stuff during the state-level elections.
Or maybe this is common in Chicago these days?
At any rate, as a Catholic, Rev. Pfleger is becoming annoying. I really don’t wan to hear about politics at the pulpit, and I can’t stand whites who seem to hate themselves to win the approval of minority groups. That may be Pfleger, and it may not be.
I’m white. I have been called racist once in my 50 years, that I can remember. That one time was because I wouldn’t serve a free drink to an underage kid from a closed cash bar. That was the one time…until the last few months. I’ve been called racist 3 times now related to the messiah. Once by a friend of 10 years who has drunk the Kool-aid, and once on public transit simply because I was white and there.
I’m afraid it will take decades for this county to recover from all the healing and unifying.
Next up: Obama (today) throws Obama (yesterday) under the bus: “All of the statements I made before today that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes today and directly contradict my profound love for this country. This is not the me I’ve come to know for 46 years.”
Obama - “Father Michael Pfleger is a dear friend, and somebody I interact with closely.”
I assume that this statement is no longer operative.
I detest self hating white males.
The United States is not the greatest sin against G-d. However, it is close with the murder of children,(called abortion), Homos getting married, drug abuse, child abuse, murder for a few bucks…
To me the countries with a false religion of moon god worship, and wanting to destroy Israel might top the list.
He’s just another loose cannon like Pastor Hagee. Although I think Hagee is just a bit further out there:
“In his sermon, ‘The Final Dictator,’ Hagee described the Antichrist as a seductive figure with “fierce features.” He will be “a blasphemer and a homosexual,” the pastor announced. Then, Hagee boomed, “There’s a phrase in Scripture used solely to identify the Jewish people. It suggests that this man [the Antichrist] is at least going to be partially Jewish, as was Adolph Hitler, as was Karl Marx.”
This “fierce” gay Jew, according to Hagee, would “slaughter one-third of the Earth’s population” and “make Adolph Hitler look like a choirboy.”
It’s just a wonder that McCain took so long to denounce him, but I guess that the conservative vote was just too valuable to him.
the only fallacy i see with your statement is the fact that real conservatives hate mccain too…
but thanks for playing!
Unless of course McCain wasn’t a member of his church and hadn’t spent the last 20 years listening to him as well as donating money to Hagee’s church. Oh wait - he wasn’t and hadn’t and didn’t…
Yeah… work in progress. I have the feeling the Obama bus is going to end up on top of a huge mountain of discarded people and ideas by November.
Nice work! This one really cracks me up as well…
Yes, that’s true. He only sought Pastor Hagee’s endorsement.
So I guess beheadings are not as sinful as raceism.
Eww, don’t go there. I got an image of Pfleger serving wine to a shirtless Dudley and Arnold from “Different Strokes”. Yuck.
When I was younger, I used to hate preachers like this, because of their phony showmanship and manipulation. As I’ve gotten older, I just find them funny and darkly entertaining. I’ve actually gone to some of these mega-christian churches with friends purely for fun and the theatrical experience. The fact that people actually believe in this type of garbage really amazes me, but it just shows how gullible and needy human beings are. People actually buy what this dude and his “black preacher drag” is selling. I remember years ago some televangelist convinced viewers to send millions of dollars by a certain date, or God would kill him. Dude got the money. It’s a hustle. Some people peddle Jesus with a fear and hate, and some peddle him with a dose of white guilt an pandering. Hagee, Wright, Pfleger, Robertson, Falwell(the Clinton Chronicals…Hahhahahahahaha), Parsley, Swaggart, Jackson, Sharpton….I think they are ALL a bunch of hustling clowns, and I don’t feel bad for any of the fools who buy into it.
I support Obama politically, but if he winds up losing the election, because his garbage church comes back to bite him in the ass…well he gets what he deserves.
Of course you support Obama politically…..He’s un-qualified, he’s black and he’s communist.
That’s how you make your decisions.
mistress just-ice
That’s really funny I think you’re the biggest hustling clown on this board. Thought you’d be envious a crazy white preacher is stealing your schtick.
I see that gribble has figured out how to cut and paste. Too bad he’s doing it from The Nation, a rag that is in complete agreement with Pfleger
The patented “moral equivalence card”! Where would a liberal troll be without that? Too bad Hagee never said the sort of stuff Wright and Pfleger have come out with.
Wright is Obama’s uncle. Pfleger is his moral counsel.
Obama sought these goons out and gave them ooooodles of cash.
Now he pretends he didn’t know what they were about, and he bitches that they are being scrutinized.
Who was sitting in Hagee’s church for 20 years. Who gave Hagee HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN PORK?
I’ll wait LIBTARDS.
Obama and friends have given me a whole new perspective on Clinton and friends. It doesn’t matter what I think though as this election we will see democrats electing the republican, talk about an upside down world. The democrats don’t see it the way we conservatives do nominating Obama and all they stand for over Clinton and all they stand for is going to tear that party apart. Believe me, most of that party can see the radical difference between the two of them. So now that both parties are ripping apart I suggest these guys come out and admit what we already know, that they have formed a new party. The republocrats. Their slogan, we’re not for American’s but we aren’t for terrorists either… so there.
Funny guy you. What moral equivalence. I’m not doing any balancing act, and I’m just calling them all out on being phony, self-rightous clowns. They all have their own quips. You mention Hagee, who talks about the Catholic Church being the Great whore, and called Hitler a hunter, and Hurricane Katrina was a punishment for New Orleans from God.
But you are right Flens, Hagee never came up with the same stuff Pfleiger and Wright have come up with. I’m not sure what difference it makes though, and I think he’s just as much of an A$$clown. As a preempt, I KNOW MCCAIN NEVER WENT TO HAGEE’S CHURCH, CHURCH, CHURCH, CHU……..
On a sidenote Flens, I must give you credit. I’ve been reading this blog for a few years, and you always consistently rejected the inevitability of Rudy Guiliani. This was despite the beliefs from all of the so-called experts who had him annointed as the nominee. You were right. I think you are generally a knucklehead on most issues, but I provide kudos on all of your Guiliani points from back in the day.
The radical socialist left has been a group of anti-American victims. They are relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things - but this time they actually have a chance because of the ineptness of both political parties. Obama is but the spokesman of this group and he is the culmination of their dreams. Unfortunately, the culmination of their dreams is a nightmare for America and the free world.
This weirdo has a load of sh*t a mile long. A skill aquired from chasing ambulances perhaps?
One thing for sure,m Obama can throw as many people as he wants under the bus, but it won’t be comforting to anybdy with a brain. We don’t want to know what he can do with the people he knows. We want to know WHY he knows them in the first place.
Obama keeps trying to run away from what he wrote in his two books, and he expects us to accept politically opportunistic bus-bumps as sufficient explanation. Just don’t bother him anymore, OK? He’s only running for President of the United States. Friends with communists, racists, terrorists? No biggie. What’s YOUR problem, eh?
But like I said, I don’t know want to know what he’ll do to detach himself from radicalism. I want to know why he is radical.
Pfleger ; threatened by whom?
I believe that- that is a RUSE too.
# 91 CS
Once the election is over with, Obama’s past will catch up to him…
99 seats full of libs on the bus
99 seats full of libs
You throw one down and he bounces around
98 seats full of libs on the bus…
Obama and the rest of our LIBTARD friends, believe that WHITEY is keeping A STRONG BLACK MAN DOWN.
The entire prism of Obama’s life and in his own words describes this. He learned how to “fool” honkies into believing he was the black Eddie Haskell. Obama is so SOCIOPATHIC that he makes Rodham look quaint. Obama is an actor. But he has started to believe that his ACT is TRUTH.
No one, I REPEAT, NO ONE, can hang with the likes of Jeremiah Wright and Pfleger for 20 years, and do their financial bidding with TAX MONEY, and sit through 20 years of the CIRCUS that they call TRINITY CHURCH and not notice the HATE Rhetoric. If you believe he wasn’t aware, you are either stupid or a LIBTARD.
Indeed it will. It will be knocking on his door, demanding all manner of loudly-titled government positions and ruinously expensive race programs. The only fun I can see is having Chris Matthews as his press secretary.
Chris Matthews makes my leg tingle. In a Barney Rubble kind of way.
Imagine if a MSM news show host had said that Fred Thompson gave him “shivers”.
It’s laughable, but it’s sad.
Either Matthews or Jeremiah Wright as Press Secretary. :-p
All the sucking up that the Clintons did to black America is being paid back…..errrrrrr….in ….errrrr. SPADES.
Pandering doesn’t fool people. The pandering to blacks by LIBTARDS is like BOB SEGERS…. “night moves”.
“I used her, she used me, but neither one cared. We were working on our Night Moves”.
The anger at Rodham is obvious. These “Reverends” are racists.
She is white and stands in their way.
Pretty simple.
You don’t know spit about me Dummy. Go put your son to bed before your dealer comes over. He doesn’t need to see that kind of stuff.
Good posts mistress. I’m a McCain supporter, but I couldn’t agree more on the whole religion hustle. It’s a racket and they’re all a bunch of charlatans to me.
underarock and libocrap, you both are big internet BA’s on this site because you know nobody (except me I guess) will call you out on the ridiculous and inane crap you post. Big candy ass wannabe tough guys who can’t address the substance of points with which you disagree, so you resort to junior high insults with the comfort that you can hide behind your keyboard and don’t have to worry about anyone calling you out. Couple of world-class tools.
Why is everyone saying the Church should fire Pfleger? Does anyone realize that being a priest isn’t a job, but a state? You can no more fire someone from being a priest than you can de-baptize someone.
What did Pfleger say that opposes Church teaching in any obvious way? Speaking out on strictly political issues is bad practice, and depending on when this was taped violates the agreement he made with his bishop to be quiet, but it isn’t like he’s teaching a heresy. I mean, can you show me where the Church in her magisterium has said “America is not the greatest sin?” There are a lot of reasons someone like this shouldn’t be at a parish, but why exactly should he be defrocked?
I’m not saying that he’s right. Fr. Pfleger’s wrong, but he hasn’t fallen into formal or even material heresy. I don’t think ‘America is a sin’ is even grammatically sensible enough to be meaningfully called true or false; but it isn’t heretical. On the other hand, the anti-Pflegerites and the folks talking about withholding their tithes are inching towards a form of Donatism or Jansenism. If you’re so set on *true* Catholicism, you need to remember that political questions are only theological questions when they are also moral questions.
Misstressjustice.
How classy. I guess I do NOW know SPIT about you.
As for my son. He’s got more class at 7 than you’ll ever have.
Misstress. I’ve got something you’ll never have. Character/Intelligence, and a SON, whom I’ll raise to be a MAN.
My son is sleeping. I read the Bible with him, helped him take a shower. Told him that I love him unconditionally and made sure he brushed his teeth as well as he should.
If I’m a “DUMMY”, I’m a successful and happy one.
You aren’t. You’re angry and intolerant.
I understand you Misstress. And I’ll pray for you too. You need it.
I’m pretty sure being a wanker is blasphemy.
Dakine. Thank you for your thoughtful rejoinder(s). Your Sophomore..”blue book treatise” was LONG on “angry”, but way way toooo short on substance.
Let’s review your “macho diatribe”. Shall we?
1)”Religion is a hustle”. WOW PROFOUND!
2)You are “tough”, because you call out those who you disagree with, by calling their opinions….INANE CRAP!!!!”
BUT!! You don’t refute said “INANE CRAP”, you merely AD HOMINEM aforementioned “inane crap” writers as CANDY ASS WANNABE TOUGH GUY KEY BOARD WARRIORS” You continue to ad hominem pontificate about “WORLD CLASS TOOLS” etc etc etc etc.
Dakine, NO-WHERE in your SILLY LIB PAP RANT, did you REFUTE ANYTHING.
You’re a CLOWN. Don’t be offended! I understand that you DISAGREE with me and another commentator, but if you weren’t a REEEEETARD, you would have LOGICALLY REFUTED MY WORDS.
YOU DID NOT REFUTE ME.
You didn’t. Ergo. You are an ass-clown.
You know, I am getting pretty sick of people saying how Trinity, Wright, and no Father Racist have done such wonderful things for the community, how they are doing such great works and ministries, etc., etc., etc., as if that is supposed to make any of this crap more palatable.
Just because they go and do some good should not and does not give them a pass on all this rhettoric that has been coming out of that place.
Hitler did a great deal of good for Germany in the 30’s as well. Does that mean we should give him a pass on all the evil he was responsible for? Stalin? Castro? No. So why should there be these mitigating issues presented every time someone points out the hate and racism spewing forth from anyone related to this “church”.
Why should we give B. Hussein “Empty Suited Messiah” a pass on any of it as well? He has stated…is on record in many different forms…that Trinity is a very large part of who and what he is, and that Wright and Pflager were both his “Spiritual Advisors” amongst other things. obama was there for 20 years. These two people did not just suddenly fly off the handle and leave the reservation two+ months ago. They did not come up with these beliefs and philosophies over night after Obama became the front-runner. No. These feelings, beliefs and philosophies were nurtured for YEARS and have come out more than once from that “religious” pulpit in that “Den of Iniquity” called a Church. There is no way on God’s green earth that either of these two “men” did not ever broach any of these subjects with Obama either in private or in his office or anywhere else before, during or after he became a U.S. Senator and Presidential Candidate.
The fact thatobama maintained friendships with these two scum-wads after the first time, let alone any of the subsequent times is a clear indication that he believes in, supports, and more than likely…contributes to their philosophies more than enthusiastically. It is only now, having had it come to the public light, that Obama is playing the innocent, hoping…apparently quite successfully…that the people of this country are just that incredibly stupid and gullible to believe him when he does the “shuck and jive” about how “shocked and dismayed” he is concerning what they are saying and doing.
This is the man that they want in the White House. A biotted, racist with more than fanatically insane ideals and beliefs, cleverly trying to keep them all under wraps until after he wins in November.
I really hate to sound like one of those Lunatics on the Left…but shold this creep actually win the election…I am actually quite terrified of what the repercussions will be. This country will take decades to recover from the amount of damage he could do. The fact that he shows signs of being a “Truther” alone is terrifying, let alone what it means for him to think that all islam needs is a hug and a pat on the butt and all will be forgiven and well.
God help all of us, should this person win. There isn’t anyplace on earth that would be safe from the damage that the Democrats and Obama stand to commit should the insane get their way in just 5 short months.
Obama leaves Trinity Church of Christ - so what?
Good article by Thomas Sowell.
Libocrat again. You started this you pathetic jabroni with your post on 124 which failed to address my points, but rather included another childish, pointless insult. The blogs are just a place for you to vent, and provoke as opposed to exchanging thoughts or strong views. You are a joke. And this right here is great:
Hahateehee. That’s just a lie Libocrat, and I feel sorry for your son.
You treat the blogs as some type of juvenile competition, and endless war of partisan snipes. You casually pick fights that are way off base, and beyond the tone of the threads, and have the nerve to question pissy responses. You are indeed a dummy, due to your idiotic obsession with CAPITAL LETTERS. You are also wholly incapable of sensible disagreement.
I believe it was Dakine who claimed that you are actually a Koskid trying to make conservatives look bad, and really, really moronic on the blogs. That may be the case. Perhaps, your screen name is a knowing wink to your true identity. If you are a mole, then I’d suggest you tone it down, because you are simply pouring it on too thick. Also, don’t you have better things to do? If you aren’t a mole, I’m firmly convinced that you are a drug addict. I don’t get the mentally handicapped vibe I get with other posters here that I choose to no longer bully. You are either a mole, or an unhinged drug addict, and either way a poor example of what a so-called intelligent man should be. Get help.
That about sums it up mistress. My guess is that you and I disagree on quite a few issues, but I find your comments well written and rational, and you only resort to the LCD stuff when absolutely necessary (as with a tool such as libocrap). BTW, I actually think libocrap is kind of a typical way far right fundamentalist Christian who is filled with sort of a righteous anger. A damaged and incomplete person who uses blogs like this one as an outlet for his many and varied issues. Hard wired wrong or just generally messed up.
Holy cats…I just swallowed my Cope…
There goes mistress just-ice and dakine two totally warped people screaming through a keyboard. Is that how you hide your inadequate ideas through anger and rage? You two are dirty slobs. sc*mbags.
And libocrap’s partner in unhinged hate and nonsense, underarock, makes his inevitable appearance.
RetFireman, that was funny.
Props to you also Dakine. You represent conservatives very well. Hell, I can passionately debate and or jokingly needle with most conservatives here. There’s always punks out there who need to be “helped over the fence”. I work very closely with right wingers whom I respect, and a couple are very close friends of mine. Of course these friends of mine also have common sense, tolerance and intelligence. Take care, Dakine.