Pfleger: “America is the greatest sin against God;” new “statement” to come?
More video of Rev. Michael “Vanilla Ice” Pfleger’s race-baiting sermon last week at Trinity United Church of Christ has emerged on YouTube. Boy, was he on a roll. If you thought his bug-eyed, Jeremiah Wright wannabe mimickry of Hillary Clinton’s “white entitlement” was over the top, you’ll love the new excerpts in which Pfleger inveighs that “America is the greatest sin against God.” (”God damn America” was already taken, of course.)
My question is: What will it take for the Catholic Church to cut themselves loose of this racial huckster? “Have the balls” to fire him already. (See also Catholics against Pfleger.)
(Hat tip – HA headlines. More here.)
Pfleger is complaining about “ugly” rhetoric–and is promising to make a statement today. Chutzpah:
The Rev. Michael Pfleger, who helped reignite Barack Obama’s pastor problems by mocking Hillary Clinton, said this evening he’s received “thousands of hate threats” since his videotaped pulpit rant.
“They want to kill me,” Pfleger told parishioners during a service in a St. Sabina Church chapel on Chicago’s South Side this evening. “It’s been very ugly.”
In his brief comments this evening, Pfleger did not name any candidates, and said he would address the controversy at a Sunday mass at St. Sabina.
“I’m not going to make a statement,” Pfleger told the crowded chapel. “My real statement will be tomorrow.”
But he did say it’s been a difficult week filled with an unspecified surgery on Tuesday and a deluge of threats.
“It’s a very difficult situation,” he said. “I’ve received thousands of hate threats.”
He did not offer any specifics from the pulpit, and declined through an aide to comment further. That included declining a specific request by the Sun-Times for a comment on Obama’s decision to leave Trinity church.
Meanwhile: The Axelrod-Pfleger connection.
Obama, for his part, continues to rely on his apologist talking point about how all of his men of bad faith are being quoted out of context.
In what context does “America is the greatest sin against God” not sound like the demagogic spewing that it is?
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James Lewis at the American Thinker presses the Catholic Church:
Father Pfleger brings public scandal to the Church. He clearly and obviously, on videotape, preaches racial hatred. He does so with plenty of prior rehearsal and maybe coaching, in order to sound just like race-baiting ole’ Reverend Wright, who has apparently been conducting a school for race baiters over at Trinity United. The Democrat Party of Chicago, Louis Farrakhan, the whole den of thieves of the Illinois Democrat Machine has obviously known about this for decades. The radical Left and ACORN (Obama’s “community organizing” radicals) must have known all about it. The Obamas were up to their necks in guilty knowledge. The Clintons knew. Everybody knew…
…Does the Catholic Church recognize any responsibility to deal with Father Pfleger? Do the words of Vatican II mean anything in practice?
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Our friend Tennyson Hayes was inspired to contribute another Obama photoshop to commemorate all the under-the-bus activity of late:
Who’s next?
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A Reuters photographer tries to give Obama his glow back. Click on it on an empty stomach.
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Amazing. Obama cuts himself loose NOW, which confirms the fact that he didn’t really care about the hate-preaching from his Reverend.
Don’t look for any objective coverage from the MSM: When Obama gve his speech, it was a defense of Wright. When Wright went farther and when Pfleger surfaced, he finally cut the knot. In both cases Obama is a saint to Chris Matthews…because to the MSM, Mr Good Judgement doesn’t make bad decisions. Bad things ‘happen to him’ and anything he does to get out of them is “the right decision.”
Since the man believes America is such a horrid place, the Church should dispatch him to an envoronment more suitable to his tastes – the Sudan comes to mind. They could use a good champion for Christianity in that country.
If the Church hasn’t figured it out yet, this man is a profound embarrassment to all US Catholics. Pfleger is about as far away from a man of God as you are going to see anywhere in the world.
Since the Diocese of Chicago refuses to take any subtantive action to relieve Pfleger of his duties and dispatch him out of the country, perhaps some subtle persuasion is in order. This doesn’t just effect Catholics in Chicago – it effects Catholics everywhere. The Church can take its time dealing with Pfleger, and Catholics can take their time making contributions to the Church. I’ll sit on my wallet until the blight is removed.
I have to wonder just how many people in the early primary states were so smitten with Obama, that they now regret voting for him? You have to think that there are a lot of those people shaking their heads.
Hindsight is 20/20 people. Don’t blow it in the general election!
An Obama apologist on CNN earlier today tried to rationalize Trinity by claiming that a visitor to any black church in America would encounter the same hate-filled rhetoric. The country may be ready for a black president, but is a candidate who first defines himself as black ready for the job?
Help me out here, when last was the Catholic Church known for doing the right thing.
bayou22, we can only hope a lot of people are disillusioned with him. However, I’m not so sure. One of my older sister said she might vote for either Obama or McCain. She had never heard of Wright, Rezko, Ayers, or Michelle Obama (only half-joking on the last one). After I told her about Ayers, she said it definitely influenced her to rethink voting for him.
My point it: moderately political people like my sister, who listen to NPR, have probably never heard or Wright, Rezkoo or Ayers. And they probably won’t.
The problem with Obama voters is that it isn’t abouot qualifications in the first place, it’s entirely about projecting personal ideas about “goodness” and “fairness” and “newness” onto Obama. Once they’ve made up their mind, once they’ve seen that Che Guevarian poster, they need know no more.
“Hate threats?”
The unfortunate reality is that many of his supporters can’t tell you WHY they support him or anythign he’s done that should qualify him to be president. I suspect many of them are also ignornat to many current events and are basing such a critical decision on so little information, especially their own willingness to seek out the facts. Scary and sad all at once.
Let’s see…preach ugly hate from the pulpit, then claim any response to it is ugly hate.
What the hell did he expect? Applause? An audience with the Pope? Increased donations?
Between Obama and Pfleger, I can’t figure out which one is the pot and which one is the kettle?
Point by Michelle Malkin:
Protestant and Catholic churches will get rid of deadweights like Phlegger when he no longer brings in the money .
Moreover since no one wants to do his kind of job, he will get to keep his despite his blasphemy.
This is one my problems with modern Christianity-the churches are driven for money, power,cliques and feminism, not doing what God would want.
I could tell you all of a few tawdry tales of what I observed during my time as a voting member of a protestant church-and I eventually and willingly left that environment.
No I have not lost my beliefs, I just don’t know where I could go to worship and not be chagrined again.
The rectal craniotomy apparently failed.
As soon as they finish removing all of the child molesters, they’ll take care of Pfleger.
#13 mookie said:
It’s unfair to say without proof, but I get a queezy feeling that you could kill two birds with one stone, in Pfleger’s case.
Don’t forget Trinity United.
By the time the Treason Media is done spinning this, the Catholic Church will be the bad guys for harboring someone in their ranks who dares bring shame to the Obamessiah. NOTHING must stop the Obamessiah!!! NOTHING!!!
Rezco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOFT8jtuVpo
Is the “pastor” thing a deflection?
OR—–Are the “vultures” coming home to roost?!
B. Hussein O. is one scary dude.
Pfleger should get out more often.
PSS:
The Roman Church must stand up and soon.
“For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind”
“…all those who take the sword will perish by the sword.”
Scary dude, indeed. I may have to vote for McCain after all. There can be a huge difference between bad and worse.
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May one of the threats against Pfleger come true and send that man to hell now. But let it be by a Miss Hillary supporter.
Does one giggle or puke when you see a pathetic white man “passin’” as black?
The Catholic Church will not cut Pfleger from the fold and they will support open borders because they need the money to pay off the lawsuits. Shame they don’t worry more about God.
I would order a CT scan and an MRI on this guy, stat. There is something seriously wrong with this guy. He’s an egomaniac who seeks power (like many) through religion rather than politics…a priest in name only. God sees what he is.
I hear that the Nation of Islam is hiring… This whackjob would appear to be a good fit.
The Chicago Diocese must act quickly. That idiot must be removed from the parish and defrocked. The Cardinal must take action this week.
I just emailed the Pope. (Yes, he has an email account)!
#13, and they’ll stillbe faster than the Democrats took care of Gary Studds.
Oh wait, the Catholic church is doing something.
Regardless of what the Catholic Church does in this life towards Pfleger, God’s got it covered in the life to come. No worries.
This is a lie:
I have been in quite a few “black” churches and have never encountered this racism. They preached saving grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.
These people are racists, almost as bad as Al & JJ.
Who’s next?
As opportunist as Obama is – Michelle O. best get herself a helmet.
Listening to the Pfleger B*****d makes me glad I haven’t had breakfast. If this nut is so upset, then why does he stay in a country that he hates? He’s looking for the limelight, and is cut from the same cloth as: Wright, Jackson, Sharpton, etc. OH…Sheehan, Churchill, Arelleno… just to even the playing field.
So Pfleger’s getting death threats….here’s another liberal who thought there were no consequences for his speech. Well, Pfleger, when the chickens come home to roost, watch out for the poop!
Any so called, “man of God” should know there are consequences to actions and speech. He is clearly a snake oil salesman in it for the quick, immediate glory, money and praise of men. There is absolutely no evidence that his life brings glory to God or Christ. He will answer for every word he speaks and for every life he drags down away from the Truth!
#5 – On June 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 am, bit_boy
I suggest you read “The Regensburg Lecture” by James Schall.
Who does the following quote remind you of?
The mechanisms and techniques are the same, just the names and places are different.
From Wikipedia:
It seems like the media and the Democrat party is doing its level best to build a cult of personality around Obama.
I have a bad feeling it will work out just as well as all the other examples.
There are black churches – like those here in the south that are scripture based and then there are black liberation churches that are basically Marxist worship centers. Both are being called “black churches” to the great detriment of our brothers and sisters in Christ.
Since this issue is going to be in the news for some time to come, there really needs to be more reporting on the difference between the two. I suspect that many black people are not really clear about the origins and distinctions.
That Hayes photoshop pic absolutely rocks.
I am just wondering if you act like a black preacher does that show you are not a racist??? Also I think love is a 2 way street.We need to conclude that Obama is a naked marxist.He is a pretender.Our country is in danger.God help us.
Allow me to save the trolls the trouble:
As bad as Pflegers “America is the greatest sin against God” statement is, it really is no worse than Jerry Falwell saying gays and lesbians brought 9/11 on America.
/sarc off
We know now what Obama considers racial unity. Unfortunately it is not what sane people want, but then what does sanity have to do with political/social progress?
wow. that’s hilarious….and pathetic
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Keep those cards and letters coming dear children; the Ayatollah Pfleger would just love to hear from you.
Here is the SOBs Apology if you want to call it that.
http://a.saintsabina.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=73
What is with Obama and his crew of misfits? It’s as if they expect to be able to spew forth their venom about any and everything and not have to answer for it. Perhaps, if he weren’t such a hate-filled, two-bit racist preacher he wouldn’t have to issue statements every other day. Not that the statements are sufficient… and the temerity to complain about “ugly” rhetoric. This man is no man of God.
Looks like he thinks he was misunderstood and his statements were taken out of context. Now, where have I heard that before?
My father was lamenting what a nice parrish St. Sabina’s was when he was a kid in the 40’s again last night when we were on the phone. He even called up there about this clown.
These apology, non-apology business is starting to almost be funny. If it wasn’t so sad, it would be.
Love the photoshop!
This distraction from messiah obamas poll tested and ghost written talking points in no way helps his demigod children. The fact that he has the most liberal voting record in the senate and has hung arround with extreme leftist radicals, should in no way be exposed. The people want spiffy talking points not reality.
Things that are worse:
1. 6 million Jews in the Holocaust
2. The Spanish Inquisition
3. Communism
4. Bataan Death March
I could go on…….
Thank you! My Monday is now off to a great start.
Still defending that they are “quoted out of context” but parting ways with his church? Sounds like he isn’t that differnt from any other politician, like he likes to profess – He will do what is politically prudent, personal and/or spiritual convictions be damned.
“america is the greatest sin” in what context is that a GOOD statement?
1) Go to counseling for YOUR addiction
2) Leave the Country
3) Problem solved
Bingo.
The two forms of mental laziness we will have to overcome in November are:
1. The willful ignorance of the Obama worshippers. Others here have already pointed out how so many of them have no idea of his sand-poundingly poor judgment when it comes to the people he associates with, and their general unwillingness to learn. Recall that John Kerry still got what, 60 million votes in 2004 despite all that was revealed about him? It’ll be the same with The New Messiah. There really are none so blind as those who will not see.
2. Conservatives who, in their quest for perfection in a Republican presidential candidate, breezily equate McCain with Obama and say that they’ll vote for neither. As it becomes more and more obvious just what kind of a man Obama is, his campaign theme is going to have to change from “Change we can believe in” to “All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for
good people to do nothingconservatives to stay home and pout or throw away their votes.”“Cookin’ M.C.s like a pound of bacon”
Sorry, couldn’t resist. If you don’t know the reference, just keep reading…
McCain will probably get my vote because the democrats are going to run Obama.
Not really looking for perfection. You have to have your head in the clouds in order to believe you’ll find that in any man here on earth. What I believe we are looking for is a Republican candidate who stands on Republican principles. Unashamedly and unapologetically, of course.
Michelle has the “Waffle Express” I have the late bus.
What is the Pope’s e-mail address? We should bombard him with the e-mail!
I hope Pfleger makes a statement today at the National Press Club. I also hope he dances around mocking white people.
Then I hope the Michelle Obama tape gets released later today. It’s Hillary’s last hope.
At what point does anyone think that the Catholic Church will deal with Pfleger? They’ve had a far worse scandal brewing for years which has resulted in denials, reassignments and finally, a few reparative payoffs–but if there were any priests being dismissed, I can’t recall who they are.
That, of course, is not the issue here.
The issue is that Barry is exposing himself for two things:
1) He’s a political opportunist just like so many others, hence the “change” he keeps droning on about is just change for change’s sake, and is not beneficial; and
2) He’s as radical as they come (something the MSM will NEVER report, since they like it that way).
Catching up from a busy morning…
Honestly, the catholic church has trouble distancing itself from problematic issues. I’m not sure if Michelle asking when will they distance themselves from this clown is the right question.
I would ask, more to the point:
What will he have to do in order to be distanced? How much more will be tolerated before he’s dealt with?
Unfortunately, their track record is less than encouraging.
Catching up from a busy morning…
Honestly, the catholic church has trouble distancing itself from problematic issues. I’m not sure if Michelle asking when will they distance themselves from this clown is the right question.
I would ask, more to the point:
What will he have to do in order to be distanced? How much more will be tolerated before he’s dealt with?
Unfortunately, their track record is less than encouraging.
It’s getting really crowded under that bus, but the MSM keeps telling the masses nothing to see here move along. Eventually this stuff is going to reach critical mass and I hope it does before he becomes the anointed one for the Democrats when they rubber stamp his probable win in Denver. Even with all of McCain’s negatives he is currently polling way above the empty suit. I hate to agree with “she who must not be named”, but I think she is the only one that could beat McCain this election cycle.
“For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he…” Prov. 23:7
With a church under that bus, is it high centered yet? I think Obama has peaked 5 months too early for him.
You haven’t been smokin’ any of that “poisonous mushroom” have you, misfit?
Obama, his “pastor, his priest, his friends and associates” may attend church, but, they and their churches are not Christian. I simply don’t know what part of Jesus’ message they don’t get. Hatred is their only message. Sad and shameful.
What a election year!
We have a Republican Candidate that mainstream Republicans don’t want to call their own, and now the leading Democratic Candidate has enough “taint” to scare the bejesus out of mainstream Democrats.
This has got to be the year a third-party candidate can win the White House.
Calling all tin-hat & propellerhead candidates… THE POOL IS OPEN!
# 43 Arizona N-thank you for the info.
ACTION is better than words.
Nation of Islam – Farrakhan-has been doing death threats forever.
Does that hate-filled group still get get taxpayer $$$$ in some way?
The Roman Church must step up and condemn this guy Pfleger.
R E Z C O keeps coming to mind.
CS # 17
Word to the mother!
The problem is that there are many, borne out of a gross misinterpretation of “the spirit of Vatican II” who are now entrenched in positions as bishops who won’t respond to Rome’s requests.
They agree with Pfleger in many ways, and give Rome the proverbial finger.
As a Catholic, I wish to see a massive overhaul of the priesthood.
Any bishop or priest unfaithful to the teachings of the Church should be shown the door without ceremony. Defrock them immediately and return to the orthodox practices of *true* Catholicism.
Pfleger, throws his MURDERED Foster son under the bus a la Obama and his Typical White Grandmother.
You libs must be real real proud about now.
If America is the greatest sin against God, I wonder where the Catholic Church ranks in his book? Sounds like a good liberal though, whatever he says is bad, I should consider good and vice versa.
Bob, you are certainly correct. Hillary is helping to achieve a major schism in the Democrat party and that is great. I know the democrats are notorious for killing each other and then holding hands the next day, but hatred and racism runs deeper than that and I don’t see a lot of the true democrats voting for a black man when they have had years and years of hating the race.
I think we will see Obama getting his wacko liberal votes, McCain getting his racist, moderate democrat votes and then there leaves the true republican voter, 20+ million strong. I think we are doing ourselves a disservice by even wasting our time talking about McCain and not instead spending our time recruiting a new candidate.
How is any of this helping Michelle Obama’s kids?
I’ve said it before here in these comments, n’ I’ll say it again…
DRAFT FRED THOMPSON!
AMEN englishqueen!!! AMEN!!!!
I would vote for Fred Thompson in a heart beat, if he accepted the draft, and then campaigned vigerouly for the whitehouse. He was my choice to begin with, but when he made the statement that he didn’t really want to be president, and his lackluster way of campaigning, before dropping out, just really left an empty feeling in my stomach. I don’t think Fred will run third party, but if he does, he’s got my vote.
The only thing Pfleger is missing is a toothbrush moustache.
Didn’t Thompson endorse McCain though? I don’t see him going back on that endorsement.
Losers. Just absolute losers. Ever notice how it’s always losers who are attracted to this stuff? Ditto for Islam. Angry, malajusted losers love it.
Stay far far away from these people. They are so incredibly negative and so unspiritual…I don’t know what else to say.
Hillary = bad
Obama = dangerous
‘Nuf said.
I don’t think he has endorsed anyone at all yet…I do know he has said he’s not wanting to be McCains VP…
…but if McCain would ask him, I would wonder.
As for his “vigorous campaigning”, don’t get suckered by the press spin…vigorous was never Fred’s style to begin with, and his reluctance to be President wasn’t due to a lack of personal enthusiasm, but rather to having to endure the rigors of a modern campaign.
Thompson always said he was lead to run because he felt he could simply help this country. His “First Principles” spelled it out very clear, he was motivated by the greater good over any personal ambition.
If there’s any “Dark Horse” in this year’s Election who’d have a chance of winning the White House, I think it’d be Fred. He was literally “head & sholders” above any other candidate.
(IMHO)
Fits right in with Michelle Obama’s “I’ve never been proud of America til now…” doesn’t it??
Clearly, Trinity United has been preaching anti-american garbage for a long, long time. Honestly, if I lived in a country as horrible as they consider this one to be I wouldn’t be hanging around too long. I’d be trying to get into a better one.
Ok, still digging to find out for sure, but a Wash. Post article says he did,
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/08/fred_thompson_backs_mccain.html
Although that is the only one I see. I will get in touch with Fred and see what he says (if he picks up the little red phone that he had connected to make sure my calls go straight through).
..but as for myself, I’m thankful to be an american.
Ditto # 45. Pfleger’s apology is pathetic. It’s more of an excuse. I expect more from clergy than mindless rants. He IS a SEXIST and a RACIST! There are lots of injustices in this world which don’t get fixed by lumping the guilty with the innocent. How about preaching success INSPITE of injustice? If he didn’t want to be judged by soundbites, Then he should have kept his MOUTH SHUT! He failed to learn anything from Wright.
We can’t change the past or create a future by wallowing in victimhood. Pfleger seems to think that one group’s victimhood counts more than anyone else’s. It’s time for every religious group to stop ordaining crap for the ministry.
REZCO R U S E ———refer
#17 CS – my former post.
The more I think about it- the more I believe that all of this is a deflection to help the clever B. Hussein Obama.