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1. #101
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 2:53 pm, John Ansell said:

   And that just happened.

2. #102
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 2:58 pm, chicagojedi said:

   When I was in school they took us to a jail to see daily prison life. I guess this school is continuing the tradition of showing kids criminals. Too bad it’s while they’re still committing crimes.

   Dey Tuk R Jerbs!

   My only question is this: If an ignorant waste of a school teacher could find the illegal aliens why couldn’t ICE?

3. #103
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm, nyc123me said:

   Thanks for the stats. Every person who is pro-amnesty should indicate so on their tax return, and $11,000 be added to their tax bill. Actually it would be more like $20,000 since not every US citizen is pro-amnesty. Watch how quickly things change then.

4. #104
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm, longbow said:

   People like marries101 (post #72) are as much a part of the problem as the illegals themselves. marries101′s attitude is what enables and encourages illegals and makes enforcement of and respect for our laws more difficult.

   I am married to an immigrant – a LEGAL immigrant, which makes all the difference. I speak fluent Spanish so I can both understand and empathize with the plight of illegals in this country – a plight completely of their own making, and completely rectifiable.

   “Why can’t we all just get along?” is marries101′s mantra. Why can’t we all just obey the laws, and punish those who don’t?

5. #105
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm, fuseman said:

   health department does nothing to monitor sewage disposal at these sites. and the teacher exposes the kids to it?

6. #106
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm, pressto said:

   I put up numbers of how illegal aliens are hurting “Americans here in the United States”. He tells me that they are here LEGALLY because anyone born on North American soil is considered an American.

   There are two issues here. Yes he is correct in that the dictionary does define American as a native or inhabitant of North America or South America so if you are going to have this discussion you need to state US citizens instead of Americans because you are using one definition and he is another.

   Then is the second part of his saying that if you are an American it is Legal for you to be in the US.

   Is he a member of La Raza because this is what they believe?

   Simple reply what he believes does not match with the facts and reality of what LAWS of US, Mexico and Canada are. If he keeps rambling then say I believe you now owe me $100. When he asks you why, say if he can make ridiculous claims based only on beliefs that are against reality and the laws, then so can you and pay up.

7. #107
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm, Gregor said:

   OMG!

   From the faculty bios …

   Jude Stabiler
   5th Grade Lead Teacher

   Jude is a graduate of Antioch University’s Teacher Credentialing program. He was the lead teacher at OCS in the 5th grade last year and currently participates on the OCS School Board. Previous to teaching Jude worked in the music recording industry. He lives in Century City with his husband Darryl.

8. #108
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm, M0mm1e0f2G1rls said:

   Thank you for commenting Pressto. I honestly don’t know if he is a member of La Raza. That was my first thought too. He also said that he would rather his taxes go to illegal aliens getting welfare and so forth other then his taxes going to the war in Iraq. That is what makes me think is his just a typical liberal. Everytime I talk on the blog now I never say that we are “Americans”, I say we are United States citizens and there is a difference between U.S. citizens and illegal aliens. But he is blind to the proof. Thank you for the come back. I needed one for this idiot. He just pisses me off.

9. #109
   On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:43 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

   Heh, didn’t see this posted on the school site under the 4th grade teacher in question’s section earlier today:

   A letter from the 4th grade students:

   Dear all parents,

   Our 4th grade thought they were scary, but when we heard their unbearable stories, we knew we were wrong. We’re talking about when we went to see the Day Laborers at the Los Angles Day Laborer Program. That’s where the unbearable stories came from. For example, one man cried saying, “I have been deported 4 times!”

   We interviewed the Day Laborers, and found out they don’t do what many people think they would. Actually, they were more afraid of us then we were of them. Plus, about 100 people sign in each morning, and not all of them get jobs. If you help us, we guarantee you won’t regret making a difference in their lives.

   We would like to help the Los Angles Day Laborer Program, but we need help. What we need you to do is send your donations to Our Community School at 16514 Nordoff St., North Hills, CA 91343. Checks can be made payable to Our Community School. Please write the following on the memo line: “4th grade Day Laborer Program.” We will accept donations until Friday, June 13th. The week after that, we will use the money to buy the tools the workers need to improve their center and get jobs.

   Thank You for donating,

   Esme & Samantha

   Do you honestly think 4th graders wrote that? If you do I have a bridge to sell you. Indoctrination, ahh yes, subterfuge from our own public charter schools.

10. #110
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:48 pm, undrseige247 said:

    dakine said:

    marries101, you’re brave…I’ll give you that. Don’t expect reasoned or courteous responses from the folks around here though. I think you’re being a bit naive on this issue, but then again, I’m not as angry and prone to emotional outbursts as most on this site. Good luck, if you choose to carry on a “discussion” on this one.

    Whoa watch out there goes the idiot throwing its weight around. This thing never has an opinion on any issue a strict side liner. Don’t let it get to you.

11. #111
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:51 pm, AlturaCt said:

    longbow said:
    People like marries101 (post #72) are as much a part of the problem as the illegals themselves. marries101’s attitude is what enables and encourages illegals and makes enforcement of and respect for our laws more difficult.

    I agree longbow. They are as much a part of the problem as anything. They are enablers. They also believe that only they know what true compassion or love is. I’ll bet you dollars to donuts I can take fourth graders and show the “good side” of anybody. You could endear fourth graders to Adolph Hitler but of course not if you present them with ALL of the information. That is not what they did here. The fact is too that 4th graders are probably not mature enough for this debate. It is another problem I have with all of this. These feel good socialist want to use children to make their points and advance their agenda. They know that most adults won’t buy this socialization so they cowardly hide behind the children. This is also why they see home-schoolers as a threat because they can’t brainwash them if they can’t get their hands on them. Something we really need to address in this country but I digress. Public schools should not be doing ANY of this socialization crap. They will ignore any bad components of these “nice men” and suggest you are a “racist” for noticing even though it is these very behaviors that are detrimental to our society as a whole.

12. #112
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm, dakine said:

    abstract, you’re almost always the exception to the rule around here my man.

13. #113
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:00 pm, undrseige247 said:

    dakine said:

    abstract, you’re almost always the exception to the rule around here my man.

    This idiot must still be in high school.

14. #114
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:02 pm, gayle said:

    Oh, let’s all hold hands and go to a local prison, dear students!

    Let’s visit child molesters, rapists, murderers, etc.

    They are living in such horrible conditions, you know, and we need to listen to THEIR SIDE of the story.

    Then we’ll go back to class and write a letter thanking them for sharing their pain with us.

    (who knows, maybe I’ll get Teacher of the Year!!!)

    the liberal way………………

15. #115
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm, undrseige247 said:

    I can take fourth graders and show the “good side” of anybody.

    Hitler knew that too.

16. #116
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:14 pm, dakine said:

    You never disappoint underarock. Once again, you’ve helped make my point.

17. #117
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm, abstractmind said:

    On June 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm, dakine said:
    abstract, you’re almost always the exception to the rule around here my man.

    I’m sure there are alot of people here who agree with me at times, and alot of people who dont. And i’m sure where there are going to be alot of times that i’m going to catch flak for things, regardless. But i at least try to keep it semi-intelligent and interesting

    Guess it just depends on the day and the subject

18. #118
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Abstract and HappyMom already (politely) stomped all over marries101′s amnesty enabler argument (to your own liking oddly enough Dakine), so why are y’all still measuring internet ego’s?

19. #119
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm, libocrat said:

    Alaskangrizzly, I think Jude and his husband Darryl wrote it.
    This is the left in action.
    They use children for political purposes.

20. #120
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm, undrseige247 said:

    dakine said:

    You never disappoint underarock. Once again, you’ve helped make my point.

    I’m quite sure you’re a moron, but it’s quite funny how you never really have a position or point on this board. yawn.

21. #121
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 pm, ctmom said:

    looks like a very “democratic” school.

22. #122
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm, dakine said:

    True dat abstract. Just can’t help pushing back at internet wannabe tough guys like underseige. Guys like that give sites such as MM.com a bad rep.

    BTW, I agree with your take (as well as HappyMom’s) on this subject, so not sure what the “oddly enough” comment means.

23. #123
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm, abstractmind said:

    I know its tempting. I give lgm pushback alot of the times, but only because its rare he’ll support a position for more than a few seconds.

    I think what some people forget at times is that, regardless of our politics, we will agree on certain subjects. Just as we could likely be at each others virtual throats on something else.

    its about working through the differences and celebrating in our agreements.

    ok, work is about done…i’ll check the rest of the boards and call it a day!

    l8r.

24. #124
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    I wonder if any of the kids witnessed illegals peeing on a store wall, making leering whistles and sexual comments at women passersby, or maybe buying more illegal documents from their counterfeiter, or maybe making final payments to their smuggler for their illegal entry.

    and those are the so-called “good” ones

25. #125
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm, ctmom said:

    the school offers their application in English and Spanish. Lovely.

26. #126
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 5:16 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    On June 3rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm, ctmom said:
    the school offers their application in English and Spanish. Lovely.

    Not only that, but the one in English has a typo. The irony, the irony.

    PREVIOUS SCHOOL INFORMATIN

27. #127
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm, John Ansell said:

    They are hard workers trying to make a buck. Leave the illegals alone.

    Big time sarc\

28. #128
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 6:45 pm, emjem24 said:

    dakine said:
    marries101, you’re brave…I’ll give you that. Don’t expect reasoned or courteous responses from the folks around here though. I think you’re being a bit naive on this issue, but then again, I’m not as angry and prone to emotional outbursts as most on this site. Good luck, if you choose to carry on a “discussion” on this one.

    Yes, so reasoned, so sympathetic, yet so totally incapable of understanding why people are so prone to “emotional outbursts.” What? Are you a robot? Or are you insulated within your own universe that you cannot understand how many Americans feel that the trajectory of the country has gone off the rails regarding immigration.

    Yet, not quite so understanding, are you, with statements such as this:

    You never disappoint underarock. Once again, you’ve helped make my point.

    Where’s the respect…how about you just “respectfully disagree” and move on? Practice what you preach, dakine. You like to bleat how you and marries101 will never get a “discussion.” I guess when you play on both sides of the fence, no one’s quite sure where you’re coming from.

    On a side note, my husband recently went to a local Naval hospital for some testing and while he was waiting, he watched some latest Obummer coverage and shook his head. An elderly woman next to him asked if he liked Obummer and my husband said no. She then decided to lambast him and say how selfish young people (I guess my husband) were, that they don’t care about the country, and Obummer will bring our country “together.” My husband politely said, “we’ll agree to disagree.” You wanna know what this ole biddy did? She kept lighting into my husband until he was called into his appointment. He just ignored her.

    We are having a discussion, dakine. Sorry if it’s “too emotional” for you.

29. #129
    On June 3rd, 2008 at 8:13 pm, heroyalwhyness said:

    Just received this e-mail which is so appropriate a comment for this thread. Simply substitute this ‘teacher’s’ name, Danielle Quinto for Ernie Lujan . . .

    NOT printed in the Orange County CA Paper………………

    Newspapers simply won’t publish letters to the editor which they either deem politically incorrect (read below) or which does not agree with the philosophy they’re pushing on the public. This woman wrote a great letter to the editor that should have been published; but, with your help it will get published via cyberspace!

    From: ‘David LaBonte’
    My wife, Rosemary, wrote a wonderful letter to the editor of the OC Register which, of course, was not printed. So, I decided to ‘print’ it myself by sending it out on the Internet. Pass it along if you feel so inclined. Written in response to a series of letters to the editor in the Orange County Register:

    Dear Editor:
    So many letter writers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Mr. Lujan Danielle Quinto for one, suggests we should tear down the Statue of Liberty because the people now in question aren’t being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry.

    Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like Mr. Lujan Danielle Quinto why today’s American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented . Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.

    They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.

    Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from Germany , Italy , France and Japan . None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan . They were defending the United States of America as one people.

    When we liberated France , no one in those villages were looking for the French-American or the German American or the Irish American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country’s flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.

    And here we are in 2008 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I’m sorry, that’s not what being an American is all about. I bel ieve that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900′s deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.

    And for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of Liberty , it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are voting on the immigration bill I wouldn’t start talking about dismantling the United States just yet.

    (signed) Rosemary LaBonte