Haditha Marine Lt. Andrew Grayson acquitted

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 5, 2008 07:10 AM

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(Graphic via Defend Our Marines)

Paging John Murtha: Haditha Marine Lt. Andrew Grayson found not guilty on all counts. See if you can find the story on the NYTimes or any other MSM outlet that splashed the original accusations all over their front pages. You’ll need a magnifying glass.

Go to Defend Our Marines for all the background on the case and breaking developments.

Bob Owens at PJM reports and reminds:

Early in the investigations, based upon unknown evidence, Democratic Rep. John Murtha (PA) stated that “there was no firefight, there was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.”

Barack Obama, asked about Murtha’s charge by Alan Colmes in June of 2006, stated, “I would never second guess John Murtha… I think he’s somebody who knows of which he speaks.”

Murtha’s “in cold blood” statement and the Democratic Presidential nominee’s unquestioning acceptance came seven months before the military charged eight Marines with various offenses in December of 2006. Charges against five of the eight Marines have since be dropped for lack of evidence, and in the first of three scheduled trials, Grayson has been acquitted. It remains to be seen if Rep. Murtha or Senator Obama will offer Lt. Grayson an apology, cold-blooded, or otherwise.

Of the two cases remaining, only Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich faces charges directly related to the killings. The most serious charges he faces are nine counts of involuntary manslaughter. Curiously, his case has been postponed indefinitely, and was not expected to resume until after both of his military defense attorneys had retired, weakening his defense in a complex case. Late-breaking information from Bruce Kessler of The Democracy Project, who has been covering the Haditha cases in detail, states that Lt. Col. Colby Vokey will delay his retirement again to stay with Wuterich’s defense.

The third case, against commanding officer Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, is said to be tainted by “unlawful command influence” in charging Chessani according to the judge presiding over the case, suggesting that Chessani is a political scapegoat for higher-ranking officers seeking to appease anti-war politicians. His trial is expected to commence June 17.

Flashback: Murtha cuts and runs when confronted about his slander by YAF/Hot Air TV correspondent Jason Mattera:

You can run, but you can’t hide.

***

Bruce Kesler has much more on the steadfastness of Lt. Grayson.

Gary Gross, who has followed the case from day one, writes:

It’s disgusting that these Marines were wrongly accused. It’s obvious that this was a corrupt prosecution that wouldn’t have happened if not for Murtha’s unfounded accusations. He’s one of the most vile, despicable exuses for a human being I’ve ever seen, ranking only a few paces ahead of Judas Iscariot of thirty pieces of silver fame.

Once Sgt. Wuterich and Lt. Col. Jeffrey Cjhessani are acquitted, I will demand a full apology from Rep. Murtha. This blog’s followers know that I called Murtha’s DC office to get his statement after the charges against Justin Sharratt were dropped in july, 2007. Here’s what Brit Hume said about my call on that day’s Political Grapevine:

Pennsylvania Democratic Congressman John Murtha refused to comment today when asked by Gary Gross of the Let Freedom Ring blog for a reaction to Colonel Ware’s recommendation. You’ll recall that Murtha has said the Marines “overreacted” and “killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” But today his office said he would not comment because the investigation is ongoing.

Rep. Murtha won’t be able to hide behind that excuse much longer. When Col. Chessani and SSgt. Wuterich are acquitted, I’ll place that call again. When I call again, I will demand that they fully apologize for Rep. Murtha’s despicable accusations.

That day is coming soon.

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Comments


  1. #341475
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:16 am, Chief RZ said:

    I just finished reading our daily, The State and did not see this story. Typical.

  2. #341484
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:27 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Eat crow John Murtha.

  3. #341494
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:32 am, rooster said:

    Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end for the slander of the USMC started by Jack Murtha.

  4. #341497
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:40 am, reutersrutter said:

    Al Quedas US Senate rep loses another round.

  5. #341500
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:46 am, longbow said:

    Murtha is a disgrace not only to the Marines but to our Country. However he is a typical Democrat, not that I’m questioning anyone’s patriotism or anything.

    War is not politically correct. War is not “equal opportunity” or “affirmative action”. War is a mess – war is Hell.

    The system has worked and rendered its judgment for these Marines. Noone wants atrocities committed by our side – but neither should we tie our troops’ hands unnecessarily. I say turn ‘em loose and let ‘em fight to decisively win, without the stupid rules of engagement that do more to endanger their lives than to protect the innocent.

  6. #341502
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:47 am, caligulajones said:

    I heard it on NPR this morning.

  7. #341504
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:47 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Murtha skates free here and here.

    Why am I not surprised?

  8. #341505
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:47 am, Barry F. said:

    Barack Obama, asked about Murtha’s charge by Alan Colmes in June of 2006, stated, “I would never second guess John Murtha… I think he’s somebody who knows of which he speaks.”

    Oh. But, don’t question their support of the troops. Never. You can’t do that. They can denigrate our men and women in uniform, calling them murderers, etc. but it is just their support. Obviously, people like me are just to bitter to pick up on the deep seated support they have for them.

    Congratulations Lt. Grayson. I am glad to see that justice has prevailed. I hope the same can be said for the remaining cases.

  9. #341507
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:49 am, will_in_ky said:

    Thank God Lt. Grayson was found not guilty…now we have to do one thing: Vote out John Murtha.

  10. #341508
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:50 am, mom24ks said:

    News stories that won’t be adequately covered today by the MSM:

    Lt. Andrew Grayson = aquitted
    Rezko = guilty 16 out of 24

    Because neither story helps their candidate.

    Lt. Grayson, may God bless you and your family. Thank you for your courage and service to our country.

    Mr. Murtha, shame on you.

  11. #341509
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:51 am, TMoney said:

    Would someone stop shoving crickets up Murtha’s fat butt? They seem to be speaking for him on this subject.

  12. #341513
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:56 am, DesertLover said:

    Murtha is a certifiable POS … I can only hope and pray the people of PA finally get their heads out of their backsides and vote this clown out of office …

    Congratulations to my brother Marines for their final exoneration … now we have to get the last 2 Marines the same clearing of their names …

    Semper Fi

  13. #341514
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:57 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Let’s all do our part to see that Murtha’s destiny matches or exceeds Mike Nifong’s.

  14. #341515
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:58 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    I am proud to be a conservative Republican. If I were a Democrat, I would find it hard not to feel some guilt by association – when I look on the other side and see how bad the Dimocraps are.

    How can ANYBODY STILL be a Democrat?

    Too bad our legal system doesn’t work this well with criminals. :roll:

  15. #341516
    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:59 am, Sergeant Tim said:

    Here, for what it is worth, is my analysis based upon news reports and other sources.

    Obstruction of juctice: They dropped the primary charge of obstruction, mid-trial. Two senior NCO’s had also ordered the photos deleted, in addition to LT Grayson, because they had no intelligence value and it was policy to delete such extraneous to their duty pictures (they dump what is known as war porn of the dead).

    False swearing: Grayson correctly told the Army Colonel investigating 1) the photos did not exist and 2) they had been deleted. What riled up COL Wood and made him suspicious was the LT refused to sign a Privacy Act form but the intel guys were under orders not to sign such forms without higher HQ’s okay; al-Qaeda has a bounty on all our intel exploitation troops. The Army Colonel ran into a rabbit hole and Naval Criminal Investigators followed him down. Verdict: not guilty.

    Fraudulently separating from service: 1) The intelligence battalion commander (BC) testified that he signed Grayson’s discharge papers because “there was no legal hold” on him. It takes 2 minutes for the form and 30 seconds at a computer to put a legal hold in place (I know because as a top NCO, I did that as an additional duty). 2) A Major admitted to giving the young LT bad advice, telling him that he was under no obligation to stay put, he could out-process, take his honorable discharge, and go home. Bad advice as the specification includes ‘knowingly’ but it is thin. Verdict: not guilty.

    The last remaining shooter is no longer even charged with killing in cold blood. Time mag’s Taliban-loving McGirk and jerk Murtha cost Marines honor, time from their lives and careers, and their families immeasurable heartaches for freakin nothing.

  16. #341517
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:00 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I second #12.

  17. #341518
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:01 am, JDinTX said:

    Thank God for our Marines who are fighting for our security. Murtha and the rest of the liberals have no idea what it is like to be in a war where anybody and everybody is trying to kill you. This not some video game on the computer. They must defend themselves and their comrades.

  18. #341538
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:27 am, Irish Rose said:

    It remains to be seen if Rep. Murtha or Senator Obama will offer Lt. Grayson an apology, cold-blooded, or otherwise.

    This Marine mom thinks that they both d*mned well better.

    And the conservative blogosphere has an OBLIGATION to keep hammering this story home and demanding apologies in huge front page splashes like Michelles, for the sake of these honorable, falsley-accused Marines and their innocent families.

    And the others who we all know will come after them, if we let people like Obama and Murtha get away with it this time.

    Attention Barack Obama and John Murtha:

    The time for your apologies has come and gone, and still you remain spinelessly silent. ENOUGH!

    Just who the h*ll do you think you are, gentlemen? You are not so important that you are immune from having to face the consequences for wrongful/hurtful behavior and make amends for it.

    You have savaged the lives of these decent and innocent men, AND their families, with your careless words. And you have caused immeasurable grief and pain for these families.

    This Marine mom suggests that its’ time for you to behave like the men that you claim to be,and publicly apologize to these fine young men. Nothing less than a full and public apology will do.

    This Marine mom DEMANDS IT, Mr. Obama.

    This Marine mom DEMANDS IT, Mr. Murtha.

    If that apology does not come, I will join Michelle and other conservatives like her and do everything within my power during the next election cycle to remind your constituents and the American people exactly how you carelessly scr*wed over our men and women in the military to satisfy your own personal agenda and fatten your wallets.

    Especially YOU, Mr. Obama… Mr. Commander-In-Chief wannabe.

    This is your golden opportunity to prove to the American people that you are not the spineless cowards that you appear to be. You can do the right thing here, or you can continue to behave like pigs and continue to do the selfish thing. What’s it gonna be?

    We’re waiting.

  19. #341540
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:28 am, Dimsdale said:

    Early in the investigations, based upon unknown evidence, Democratic Rep. John Murtha (PA) stated that “there was no firefight, there was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.”

    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:46 am, longbow said:

    Murtha is a disgrace not only to the Marines but to our Country. However he is a typical Democrat, not that I’m questioning anyone’s patriotism or anything.

    The patriotism of anyone that can stand there with a straight face and reflexively take a position against our troops before he knows anything about situation can be called into question.

    Even more so if he hasn’t got the testicular fortitude, grace or decency to apologize on the same public forum in which he made his false accusations.

    Forget about PA: they are bought and sold by Murtha.

  20. #341545
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:30 am, md1964 said:

    John “Big Poppa Pork” Murtha must be hiding behind the Millions of sacks of “our” Tax Money he has been funneling to family and friends since his corrput, well fed behind has landed in congress.

  21. #341547
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:32 am, Barry F. said:

    Can you imagine Obama’s face, if he were confronted at one of his townhall meetings by Lt. Grayson and other Marines that have been cleared of the allegations in Haditha and them asking him if he would like to second guess John Murtha now?

  22. #341548
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:32 am, mycroft69 said:

    HOO-ra!! Now it’s time to bring charges against John Murtha.

  23. #341549
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:35 am, Irish Rose said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:28 am, Dimsdale said:

    The patriotism of anyone that can stand there with a straight face and reflexively take a position against our troops before he knows anything about situation can be called into question.

    Even more so if he hasn’t got the testicular fortitude, grace or decency to apologize on the same public forum in which he made his false accusations.

    Darned straight.

  24. #341550
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:35 am, Jimmie said:

    It is still a win for Murta and the liberals…they slandered our troops, while of course supporting them in every way they can….they got tons of press, pointing out how heroic Murtha was……there will virtually no press on the aquitials…no story here…move along please. We who do not get “news” from the MSM already knew Murtha is a low life lier and it is no supprise that he still is……

  25. #341552
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:36 am, mchristian said:

    Murtha, that slippery procurer of pork, will probably be re-elected because he brings home the bacon, although I would be embarassed to live in his district and have him represent me in Congress. He will, undoubtedly, reserve comment until all the charges have been adjudicated, and, despite the fact that he accused all the Marines of murder and most of them have been acquitted, he will never apologize and will never admit that he was wrong.

  26. #341554
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:39 am, Boomer said:

    From day one it has sounded to this retired Senior NCO like these young Marines were being set up to take the fall. The irresponsible comments by the POS known as Congressman Murtha and the over zealous efforts of the JAG to hang these warriors guilty of using their training in house-to-house combat to survive a very hot fire fight to save their lives has had me hot under the collar. Thanks again for the follow-up Michelle, because we haven’t heard a lot from the military bashing MSM on this case now that these young men are slowly and quietly being cleared or acquitted of all charges.

    Sounds to me like somebody in the Naval Criminal Investigation Service and the Staff Judge Advocates Office went way over board on this case and somebody has some explaining to do. I have seen other cases when on active duty of convening authorities in the chain-of-command pressuring the JAG (my gut feeling on this one) to push a case they ended up losing in a Courts Martial. The worse was a young Airmen they sent back to Osan AB, Republic of Korea to face rape charges that turned out to be nothing. Of course it cost the young man and his family over $12,000 in legal fees to send over a civilian lawyer to win his acquittal. Most of the time the Military Justice System works this time it has failed these men risking their lives while fighting for our safety and security completely.

  27. #341559
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:49 am, Member-VRWC said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:32 am, rooster said:
    Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end for the slander of the USMC started by Jack Murtha.

    Fixed it.

  28. #341560
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:49 am, sausage said:

    24 Iraqi civilians were shot to death – nothing has changed on that score.

    Two other Marines, including accused ringleader Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, still face courts-martial over the events at Haditha.

  29. #341562
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:51 am, abstractmind said:

    MM said:
    You can run, but you can’t hide.

    At the expense of correcting our gracious hostess, I would say its more like this for Murtha:

    You can run…but you can never run far enough.

    These Marines deserve our praise and gratitude, and not the venom and condemnation by people such as this lowlife Murtha. And compounding his ignorance is his previous military service…it shames me to think people such as him ever wore the uniform.

    I’m glad these men are being publicly exonorated and freed. It is the least they deserve.

    If you havent lately, call your local recruiters, or send an email to the websites of the military folks, and thank them for their service and sacrifice. I do so every chance i get here at work with people i deal with during the day. Thank them, and let them know they are always on the minds of good people all over our grateful nation.

  30. #341566
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:56 am, Irish Rose said:

    My opinion, the McCain campaign should use Obamas quote about the Haditha situation, tie it into a rundown of all the Haditha Marines who were found not guilty or had their charges dismissed, and have Mr. McCain ask the American people why we have not seen even a single public apology to them from a man who is campaigning to be the CIC of our U.S. Armed Forces.

    Seriously.

  31. #341569
    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:58 am, JHSII said:

    Sadly the left will see this as yet another example of a cover-up that goes all the way to the top; you know, how the evil Bushie personally ordered the Marines to kill innocent civilians in cold blood, and is now covering up more of his war crimes.

    :evil: :roll: :evil:

    The fact is that the Marines are heroes, and should be compensated for having to fight on 2 fronts.

    Oh, and while normally once a Marine, always a Marine – Murtha is proudly a former Marine.

  32. #341571
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:00 am, JHSII said:

    Snausage, of course, demonstrates the liberal thoughts feelings:

    Guilty even after being proven innocent.

  33. #341575
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:04 am, henryinga said:

    Thank you Lt. Grayson for your service, and my thanks goes out to the other Marines involved. Congratulations on your acquittal.
    Barack Hussein Obama and Murtha owes you and the others an apology, but don’t hold your breath, Sirs. I have every right to question the patroitism of both of these cads, one who aspires to be your Commander-in- Cheif. The very thought of brave men and women serving under this scumbag, sickens me to my stomach.
    Thanks again to you and the others for serving and fighting for our great Country.

  34. #341577
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:05 am, Irish Rose said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:49 am, sausage said:

    24 Iraqi civilians were shot to death – nothing has changed on that score.

    Two other Marines, including accused ringleader Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, still face courts-martial over the events at Haditha.

    Yes, and like the others they also will have their day in court. And they are also innocent until proven guilty.

    I continue to pray for them, and their families.

  35. #341580
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:10 am, DesertLover said:

    JHSII said:

    while normally once a Marine, always a Marine – Murtha is proudly a former EX Marine.

    A “former” Marine is still an honorable Marine … an EX Marine is no longer considered entitled to claim the honor of being referred to as a Marine … former or otherwise …

    DesertLover
    Former Marine

  36. #341581
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:11 am, sonofdy said:

    If this doesn’t show the bias of the media, nothing will.

  37. #341587
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:16 am, JHSII said:

    DesertLover – ok, I stand corrected

    after all, I am former Air Force :wink:

  38. #341597
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:22 am, cpodug said:

    DesertLover said:

    JHSII said:

    while normally once a Marine, always a Marine – Murtha is proudly a former EX Marine.

    A “former” Marine is still an honorable Marine … an EX Marine is no longer considered entitled to claim the honor of being referred to as a Marine … former or otherwise …

    DesertLover
    Former Marine

    Murtha is proudly a former EX wannabe Marine.

    Fixed it for both of ya.

  39. #341601
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:24 am, sausage said:

    This is not complex stuff.

    24 Iraqi civilians were killed by these marines – we know that as a fact. So we have been told that the majority are innocent of the crime of murder… but they still killed the civilians.. That’s probably why people are still just a bit upset about it on the Iraqi side.

    You know, families of those killed. Just a bit pissed off.

    The Marines have been found innocent of killing them on purpose. They just killed them by mistake.

    Again, not difficult to understand why some people might think – Gee, killing a few Iraqi civilians in a strip of homes could be considered a mistake – but 24…? That’s quite a lot of mistakes. Especially as babies tend not to carry guns.

    But as Bush says, winning hearts and minds….

  40. #341604
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:25 am, Blind_Mule said:

    JHSII said:
    Oh, and while normally once a Marine, always a Marine – Murtha is proudly a former Marine.

    My sentiments to a tee, the only thing is I would’nt have put the Marine on the end he’s nothing more than former military to me and that’s questionable.

  41. #341607
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:27 am, JHSII said:

    I see Snausage is still claiming Guilty regardless of the facts.

    Don’t let the facts get in your way, Snausage!

  42. #341610
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:29 am, Blind_Mule said:

    sausage said:
    But as Bush says, winning hearts and minds….

    Here we go, I’ts Bushs fault. typical liberal drivel.

  43. #341614
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:31 am, sonofdy said:

    sausage,

    So you were there? How do you know what happened? WERE YOU THERE? Then shut up and let your betters deal with this. Stuff like this happens in war. You would know that if you had a clue. In world war 2, clearing a room involved throwing a grenade in first and shooting the survivors. Doing that today would get you jail time. Yet the liberals lionize them as the “greatest generation”. It is base hypocracy to loinize them then attack the troops today for an accident.

  44. #341616
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:32 am, Truesoldier said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 7:47 am, Barry F. said:
    Oh. But, don’t question their support of the troops.

    THey way I look at it I don’t question their support of the troops, I question whose troops they suppot.

  45. #341617
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:32 am, Redstate Redhead said:

    Earlier this morn, CNN.com had this, left over from yesterday:

    Marine acquitted in Haditha case

    Only one Marine?

    This morning even that is gone from the site. No mention of the others whose charges were dismissed.

    Unbelievable reporting (or lack thereof).

  46. #341622
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:35 am, DesertLover said:

    JHSII

    No Problem … and Thanks for your service as well …

    cpodug

    :lol:

    Knew I could count on you buddy … I guess he served in Korea and Nam and was still ok … but then he got the Dem brainwashing to get into office and has forgotten what the words “United States Marine” represent

  47. #341625
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:38 am, abstractmind said:

    sausage,

    i think i can just echo what others are saying, and it makes my point as well.

    yes, 24 people are dead. its sad, and unfortunate, but that is the facts.

    but, these men have been absolved of criminal wrongdoing. its just that simple.

    yes, the other 2 are on trial. we’ll see how those pan out.

    i guess it would be too much for you, or your ilk, to just say “its good justice has been served” and be done with it.

  48. #341626
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:38 am, RedRepub said:

    Lt. Andrew Grayson = aquitted
    Rezko = guilty 16 out of 24

    These 2 news stories really helped me put things in perspective.

    Despite having 2 liberals running for President and a Dem landslide predicted in November, sometimes the good guys win.

  49. #341629
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:39 am, sambo said:

    Barry F. said:
    Barack Obama, asked about Murtha’s charge by Alan Colmes in June of 2006, stated, “I would never second guess John Murtha… I think he’s somebody who knows of which he speaks.”

    There seems to be a lot of people he wouldn’t second guess! until they are proven guilty!

  50. #341630
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:40 am, sonofdy said:

    #47

    Agreed, Murtha opened up this mess without knowing the facts. He threw these guys under the bus. Now we have to let the US Marines clean it up like always.

  51. #341631
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am, terrig said:

    To all the “Haditha” Marines, may God Bless you and Thank You for having to stand quietly by while people like that POS Murtha slandered you.
    I have no hope for PA, they’ll keep this tub of lard around because he brings home the bacon.
    Unfortunately, there are always people like sausage and the other trolls here who will echo the same thing. They should get on their knees and thank whatever GOd they pray to for people who will put up with this S#*t. But they don’t they view them as guilty and they are so proud of themselves for doing so but they support the troops don’t ya know. Old Barak Obama will be in PWC tonight. Wonder if he’ll mention this. No, I’m not going.

  52. #341634
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:42 am, Christian Soldier said:

    William Russell (Army)-is he still runnung against Murtha?

    Well said # 44 Truesoldier.

  53. #341642
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:49 am, DesertLover said:

    abstractmind #47

    Yep … 24 people killed in a tragic accident under fire and all “H” breaks loose against the US military … and yet no outrage and no uproar over the 1000s of innocents intentionally murdered by Al Qaeda and the other terrorist groups …

    RedRepub #48

    And amazingly hardly a word on either of those 2 stories in the MSM …

    Why? … because one doesn’t fit their agenda and the other could harm their beloved BHO …

  54. #341651
    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I don’t know what to say at this point in time. Murtha’s and the Pentagon’s witch hunt has gone on forever and it has been painful to watch. While I am so pleased that my brothers , one by one, are exonerated, I have no love left for political hacks and those who damaged my beloved Corps. I know all will survive and continue to be the great men and women they are… but this will hurt for a long time.

  55. #341664
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:02 am, SW0303 said:

    Can these Marines sue Murtha for slander?

  56. #341665
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:02 am, terrig said:

    On # 51, I didn’t mean to forget the rest of the Corps, I just feel particularly bad for these gentlemen and all they had to go through with the trial by media, and Congress as well.

  57. #341678
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:08 am, Texas Tiger said:

    This is good news for the USMC.

    Please don’t ask me to set aside politics and pray for Murtha when he’s diagnosed with brain cancer, end stage Tourette’s Syndrome, malignant hemorrhoids or whatever fate deals him. Thank you.

  58. #341687
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:13 am, ct davis said:

    Sausage,

    24 Civilians are dead. It’s a terrible thing. However, one does not win wars by winning hearts and minds. One wins wars by causing so much death and destruction upon one’s enemy that the enemy quits the field (that means surrender – I KNOW you understand that word).

    To send Marines in to combat but cripple them by giving them “rules of engagement” like they were Police Officers is insane. Clinton found that out in Mogadishu. Bush is finding it out in Iraq and NATO is finding it out in Afghanistan (we were winning up to the point NATO commanders took over from Americans). I am only upset with President Bush’s failure to win these wars. It could have, and can be, easily done. We have the skill, power and personal will. What we do not have is the political will. Frankly, it won’t look good on television to see death on such a massive scale. But that is what it will take. If we are unwilling to cause so much death and destruction that our enemies quit, then we shouldn’t be there.

    White Flag Liberals just make it tougher and more dangerous for our Men and Women to win. I opine (and rightly) that White Flag Democrats’ encouragement of our enemies has killed more Americans than would have died fighing the Islamofacists had they simply kept thier mouths shut.

    Democrats are seditious Traitors. Anyone who supports the kind of insanity they spew is one too.

  59. #341703
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:20 am, abstractmind said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:49 am, DesertLover said:

    Correct. And you wont see liberals crying about those…because it doesnt fit the agenda unless WE killed them. Al Qaeda blows up something…well, thats just peachy isnt it? /sarc off

    And knowing people like sausage take this route and dont decry REAL murderers is something that i feel goes beyond the pale.

    Ct,

    I absoltely agree with you. Leave no enemy stronghold standing. Utterly destroy your opponent so that they have no will to fight, and no ability to continue to do so. The spineless politicians that wont let us do the job properly do us all an injustice.

  60. #341706
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am, katieanne said:

    Where is the outrage against John Murtha? Why is he not being held accountable? Congress is not supporting the troops when they allow such a man to go free from his appalling behavior.

  61. #341718
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:26 am, Irish Rose said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:24 am, sausage said:

    This is not complex stuff.

    24 Iraqi civilians were killed by these marines – we know that as a fact. So we have been told that the majority are innocent of the crime of murder… but they still killed the civilians.. That’s probably why people are still just a bit upset about it on the Iraqi side.

    You know, families of those killed. Just a bit pissed off.

    The Marines have been found innocent of killing them on purpose. They just killed them by mistake.

    Again, not difficult to understand why some people might think – Gee, killing a few Iraqi civilians in a strip of homes could be considered a mistake – but 24…? That’s quite a lot of mistakes. Especially as babies tend not to carry guns.

    But as Bush says, winning hearts and minds….

    This Marine mom is going to refrain from telling you what I think of you, because Michelle doesn’t like the F word.

    I will however, suggest that perhaps you might be badly in need of one. And not in the usual orafice.

    /moron

  62. #341730
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:31 am, Truesoldier said:

    Irish Rose, thank you for your sons service and remember that serivce to ones country is a notion that sausage would never be able to fathom.

  63. #341736
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:34 am, Cosmo said:

    More than eat crow…eat the whole damn flock of blackbirds, you treasonous snake! (Oh, and thanks for your service. It would mean more if hadn’t been followed by such gross disservice.)

  64. #341738
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:34 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Then God Bless Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich and his family. As he now stands alone may he be in all our prayers. And may Rep. John Murtha, Alan Combs and the rest of these slanderers be Damned. And I mean Damned in all its forms.

  65. #341739
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:34 am, Texas Tiger said:

    Actually, the report issue by Sgt. Wuterich, who commanded the Kilo company squad, in effect reported that a total of 24 had been killed — 15 civilians by the IED blast and ensuing fire, and eight of the dead assessed to be enemy, in addition to the Marine killed in the IED explosion.

    Most tellingly, the report concluded, “The follow-on small arms fire between insurgents and coalition forces contributed to the civilian deaths.”

    That renders the following statement as a big, fat lie:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 8:49 am, sausage said:

    24 Iraqi civilians were shot to death – nothing has changed on that score.

  66. #341742
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:35 am, josetheguerilla said:

    MM,

    Thank you for covering this story. God bless you, and Semper Fidelis.

    /s/

    José

    I’m no a writer, I’m a Marine

  67. #341746
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:39 am, radio relay said:

    Good for the Lieutenant!!

    This case has turned my stomach ever since it first showed up on the msm. I hope to God I never, ever run into that slimeball (never a Marine) Murtha, because I will be arrested for assault!!

    Notice how the msm made such a big deal about the charges, but none of them can trouble themselves to report acquittals?!?!

  68. #341748
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:39 am, Irish Rose said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I don’t know what to say at this point in time. Murtha’s and the Pentagon’s witch hunt has gone on forever and it has been painful to watch. While I am so pleased that my brothers , one by one, are exonerated, I have no love left for political hacks and those who damaged my beloved Corps. I know all will survive and continue to be the great men and women they are… but this will hurt for a long time.

    Bless you David, and thank you so much for your service. My son is active duty and just came in off deployment. We’ve discussed this at length, and I know that he feels the same way about it as you do. Like you he knows the good that our men and women in uniform are doing all around the world, and it grieves him to see people like Murtha and Obama trash the Corps this way.

    I thank God every day that there are good and decent men and women like you and my son in this world who are willing to give up their personal freedoms, step forward in the dark and difficult times, and do what must be done.

    Semper Fidelis.

  69. #341754
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:43 am, Irish Rose said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:34 am,

    ArizonaNeanderthal said:
    Then God Bless Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich and his family. As he now stands alone may he be in all our prayers. And may Rep. John Murtha, Alan Combs and the rest of these slanderers be Damned. And I mean Damned in all its forms.

    I heartily second.

  70. #341759
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:46 am, radio relay said:

    OH.. Sausage, you don’t know anything for a fact!!!

    All you know are the lies reported by the main stream propagandists. Fools like you are relied upon to believe and regurgitate as though it were your own thought. However, it’s just nothing but recycled liberal vomit.

    Go pound sand you idiot!!

  71. #341770
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:51 am, sausage said:

    Texas Tiger – if true, that would be very interesting… problem is, only NewsMax is reporting that.

    Mind you… The Guardian did report this a year later…

    A US marine told a court yesterday that he had “pissed” on the head of one of 24 dead Iraqi civilians killed by his unit and watched a superior officer kill five Iraqis as they tried to surrender.

    Sergeant Sanick Dela Cruz made the admission at a pre-trial hearing ahead of a series of military trials over the killings and alleged cover-up at Haditha, 120 miles west of Baghdad, in November 2005.

    He said he knew urinating on the dead Iraqi was wrong but was enraged after one of his colleagues, Lance Corporal “TJ” Miguel Terrazas, had been torn apart by a roadside bomb.

    “I know it was a bad thing what I’ve done, but I done it because I was angry TJ was dead and I pissed on one Iraqi’s head,” Sgt Dela Cruz said.

  72. #341779
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:55 am, traveler49 said:

    Thank you Texas Tiger for clearing that up. I knew they were not all civilians and I knew they were not all killed by our troops. As usual, the lib turncoats like sausage will obfuscate the facts to go against their own innocent people. I just don’t get that mindset?

  73. #341784
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:59 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Irish Rose

    Thank you! Semper Fidelis to your son and you. Since I’m American Irish please give this saying to your son when he feels that the Corps is being put upon….” Nar laga Dia do lamh”… from a Viet Vet who wishes his experience never to be repeated.

  74. #341785
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:59 am, sonofdy said:

    sausage,

    The guardian? really? please. Again you weren’t there so what the f%%% do you know about it.

  75. #341786
    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:59 am, Truesoldier said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:51 am, sausage said:
    Texas Tiger – if true, that would be very interesting… problem is, only NewsMax is reporting that.

    Mind you… The Guardian did report this a year later…

    There is liberal logic in action for you. You claim that the problem with Texas Tigers story is only NewsMax is covering and then you go on to quote a story that only the Guardian is covering. (by the way WaPo also is reporting Texas’ story)

  76. #341789
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:01 am, radio relay said:

    OOOH.. The Guardian…. right…

    Smelly British cousin of the Leftwing Times… isn’t that fricking credible?!?

  77. #341794
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:05 am, sonofdy said:

    sausage,

    Did you also know Sergeant Sanick Dela Cruz changed his story during the investigation? Did you bother checking any of this out?

  78. #341795
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:06 am, cpodug said:

    Sausage: Well, all I know is what I read in the Guardian.(Sorry, Will Rogers)

    Or any other MSM outlet that parrots the leftist line. We never let facts get in the way of our beliefs – never!

    /sarc

  79. #341803
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:12 am, Ahh a Lion! said:

    Murtha is a bastard, his motivations are obvious. His biggest downfall as a politician is actually saying what he thinks – now you get to face the backlash.

    However, Murtha is just a secondary player in this. These troops were imprisoned, in solitary, for over a year (some even more), with only charity to pay for their defenses. They were accused by a far left reporter based on testimony from Iraqi insurgents.

    I have no explanation why our government has spent so much time and money prosecuting these brave soldiers. The fact is obvious that these men were set to be crucified, by our own government. Nobody stepped in to prevent this, in fact it seems like it was a crusade of some sort.

    Rumsfeld should be ashamed, Gates should be ashamed, Bush should be ashamed. Just like with Ramos and Campeon, you will serve up our brave troops as sacrificial lambs to the god of political correctness.

  80. #341807
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:18 am, DBNinKY said:

    On June 5th, 2008 at 10:59 am, sonofdy said:

    sausage,The guardian? really? please. Again you weren’t there so what the f%%% do you know about it.

    Ditto, Son of DY!
    I’d sooner defer to the NYT as a reliable, unbiased source than the Guardian, which is more rabidly anti-American than even Hamas.

  81. #341810
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:20 am, corona said:

    Why no mention of the Seattle mistrial?

  82. #341815
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:24 am, Irish Rose said:

    Also, I would like once again to thank Jason Mattera for cornering Murtha the slimball in an elevator that afternoon.

    That video is priceless.

  83. #341845
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:43 am, rommsey said:

    This is great news, I know one of the Marine’s whose charges were dropped earlier.

    This is yet another example of the mainstream media with a malicious agenda and quite frankly they should be held accountable for spreading lies. There is no right to spreading lies and disinformation, not even Freedom of the Press and Free Speech would grant that.

  84. #341849
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am, corkie said:

    The Marines have been found innocent of killing them on purpose. They just killed them by mistake.

    “Killed them by mistake?”

    Certainly, you mean that the mistake was made by those that attempted to use these people as a type of human shield (by proximity), right?

    Regardless, you have no excuse for seemingly defending Murtha for publicly presuming guilt. None.

  85. #341852
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:46 am, GOPGin said:

    It remains to be seen if Rep. Murtha or Senator Obama will offer Lt. Grayson an apology, cold-blooded, or otherwise.

    Don’t hold your breath.

  86. #341862
    On June 5th, 2008 at 11:52 am, franksalterego said:

    Would I be wrong, if I suggested doing to Murtha, the same thing we’d do to a Rabid Dog?

  87. #341878
    On June 5th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, DesertLover said:

    franksalterego

    You’re too late … Murtha was emasculated a long time ago …

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