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1. #101
   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, franksalterego said:

   2:26 pm & 2:28 pm

   Just as I tell all my friends…

   All you have to do is, wait and listen.

   They’ll tell on themselves, every time.

   Thanks for the confirmation

2. #102
   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, abstractmind said:

   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, franksalterego said:
   Khan,

   Me, and my friend McCain, see eye-to-eye on the most important issue of the day…I’ll leave to you, to decide what that is.

   As far as *I’M* concerned, all the other issues added together, are no more than a fart in the wind.

   priorities

   At the expense of being redundant, I for one would love to know (exactly) what you think the most important issue of the day is…color me curious.

3. #103
   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, martin.musculus said:

   Khan,

   Reading Frankie’s posts over many weeks, it became clear early on that Frankie’s a hypocrite. He moves goal posts, avoid facts that don’t show his points in a good light, even ignores posts when someone calls his bluff & points out his lack of character.

   To speak in a civil manner to such is a waste. Indeed, worse than a waste: it is to repeat the error committed by the Republican-majority government we’ve had. They would try sweet reason & facts, then would “be nice” & compromise — hoping that if their political enemies didn’t feel threatened they’d see the light.

   Foy! The only thing these hypocrites rate is derision. Its the same reason no one takes “flat earth” seriously.

   Thats why he doesn’t rate disgust. He’s just out for his points.

   – musculus

4. #104
   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, khan said:

   I take back the comment about not being half as smart or savvy. You’re not even 1% as smart or savvy as you think you are.

5. #105
   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, martin.musculus said:

   See, he’s still trying to get a rise.

   He needs a hook to get more points. I suspect McCain’s people won’t pay points just gratuitously splattered across the ether.

   - musculus

6. #106
   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, martin.musculus said:

   It does do one thing:

   It’s eating me up wondering what great things you can trade those points in for…

   But then, I used to collect greenstamps. Its a shame they’re gone… they were great fun.

   – musculus

7. #107
   On June 6th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

   I just had always throught of Spectre, Graham, Martinez, and the two Maine babes as RINOs, with McCain, Hagel and Sununu as borderline RINOs. I had never considered Dole as a RINO, but she voted like one today, anyway. Of course, the defeated Rhode Island solon that ran on his father’s name, Lincoln Chaffee, was the model RINO, and after losing, he immediately switched party affiliations and explained he always sympathized with the Democrats but thought he could better obstruct the Republicans as a sub-committee chair. On that basis, Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords, who took GOP campaign money then immediately switched sides, is practically a model of integrity.

8. #108
   On June 6th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, khan said:

   E. Dole’s voting record: you decide

9. #109
   On June 6th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

   “Um, I don’t like obscene profits being made anywhere–and I’d be glad to look not just at the windfall profits tax–that’s not what bothers me–but we should look at any incentives that we are giving to people, that or industries or corporations that are distorting the market.”

   There are shades of difference between old style Democrats, who favored some socialism, and generally supported capitalism, but were somewhat suspicious of sucessful capitalists, and full out Marxists, like most of the current Democrats.

   If you haven’t already, read about Henry Wallace, FDR’s Ag Secretary who visited the USSR and fell in love with Stalin, and was FDR’s VP for four years, until party big wigs pressured FDR to pick Truman instead, because of Wallace’s embrace of communism. He broke from the Dems in 1948 to challenge Truman as an openly pro-Soviet “Progressive”, and lost badly, and rejoined the party. Among his campaign volunteers was George McGovern. The 1950s through early 1970s saw a battle in the Democrat Party between the patriots and the pro-Soviets, with the communists in control by 1972. The Chicago convention riots was part of the battle.

   Bill Bennett, Jeane Kirkpatrick and Ronald Reagan were all Democrats once, but left the party when it became clear the party was falling into the control of the USSR. The USSR has fallen, but the people sympathetic to its goals now control a major US political party.

   Mr. Khan, we’ll have to agree to disagree, McCain is an old style Democrat, prone to engage in some class envy babble, but he isn’t Obama.

   Again, I’d use the analogy of coughing up blood. If it is caused by tuberculosis, it is a serious and unpleasant disease, but long term doses of antibiotics will likely eventually control it, as compared to metasticized lung cancer, which will kill.

   McCain is like tuberculosis, and Obama is advanced lung cancer.

10. #110
    On June 6th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, martin.musculus said:

    Well, thishas all seemed somewhat like a rerun of the Sixties, excepting the Dems have gone from sympathisers to actual communists/socialists, and the whole political spectrum has shifted left by 1.5 to 2 complete spectrums.

    I find myself in my t’wilght years wondering if I’ll last long enough to see it come back.

    Hey Frankie! I need to know if you’ll give your extra McCain points to the guy on SayAnything!

    – musculus

11. #111
    On June 6th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Khan- voting to over-ride Bush’s veto on budget bills, well, she is close to being a RINO, anyway.

    I just hadn’t thought of her before as a RINO.

    Now I know.

12. #112
    On June 6th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, martin.musculus said:

    If you want some real fun, and an eye-opener, google

    fabian progressives.

    I lived through that era. When Hil & Obie say they’re progressives, they’re SERIOUS.

    What turned my head was when McCain said HE was interested in a *progressive* government. I REALLY hope he’s just talking through his hat on that.

    – musculus

13. #113
    On June 6th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, tbear44 said:

    On June 6th, 2008 at 9:05 am, sonofdy said:
    what are the democrats going to do once they can no longer blame bush for democratic failures??

    Bush will be blamed for everything bad for at least the next 20 years. And to zorro: Done

14. #114
    On June 6th, 2008 at 4:22 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    What turned my head was when McCain said HE was interested in a *progressive* government. I REALLY hope he’s just talking through his hat on that.

    It ain’t his hat he’s talking through. It doesn’t bode well either way,that (a) he doesn’t understand or know the meaning of “progressive” as we know it, or (b) he DOES know exactly what it means and doesn’t give a rip what we know or think.

    He’s giving further signals that continue to make conservatives uncomfortable or downright afraid of him.

    It seems he just wants to run to feed his ego and destroy the Republican party.

    If he wants “progressive” he should just campaign for Obama.

    Oh, wait. That’s what he IS doing, covertly.

15. #115
    On June 6th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, thebronze said:

    It would’ve been a lot closer, but six of them weren’t there that would’ve voted for it. Including O’Bama and Maverick.

    Next time we might not be so lucky…

16. #116
    On June 6th, 2008 at 5:15 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    al-Kahoul said:

    … I wasn’t aware that Elizabeth Dole was a RINO. …

    She’s just another enviro-nitwit who drank Al Gore’s koolaid. I originally backed her in the 2000 primary but quickly withdrew my support once I got to know more about her, (I ended up voting for Alan Keyes).

17. #117
    On June 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pm, zorro said:

    On June 6th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Blind_Mule said:

    zorro said:
    Personal note, off topic, my sister is having heart surgery today, please keep her in your prayers.

    What is her first name?

    Maryanne. Thanks to all, seems to have gone well. Recovery now.

    It’s good news that the democraps have fallen short.

18. #118
    On June 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, Chief RZ said:

    zorro. Maybe this good news will help her recovery.

19. #119
    On June 6th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, zorro said:

    Thanks Chief. I think it will! She’s a conservative for sure. She and my brother-in-law are regular visitors to this site (and Hot Air)!

    Thanks again for the prayers, they are greatly appreciated.

20. #120
    On June 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pm, martin.musculus said:

    Zorro:

    Just got to an access pt., & looked in…

    Glad to hear the surgery went well!

    The wife & I close our day in prayer together, as well as pesonal prayers. We’ll (I know I may spk4 my wife in this…) ask for your sister a speedy & uneventful recovery.

    I’m going out to the family farm this weekend, visiting my sister. I hope everyone here has as good a weekend as I intend to!

    Take Care!

    – martin.musculus

21. #121
    On June 6th, 2008 at 8:29 pm, sam.i.am said:

    ajmontana writes,

    Boxer, Feinstein and Pelosi should be working diligently to get this situation resolved NOW. U.S. GAO Border Wastewater Treatment Report. http://www.gao.gov
    report # (in search field) GAO-08-595R
    How can a person take these women seriously when raw sewage has been streaming into our oceans for years right under their noses?
    If the Climate scare is such a crisis one would think this would be a TOP priority.

    I am with you on the hypocricy, but where do you think all the fish and whales do their business?

    Of course, their likely rationalization is that fish poo is natural and probably cures cancer and our poo is evil (and their poo doesn’t stink.)

    oldcollegeguy1980,
    you need to get one of those old school conservative Reagan t-shirts. I’m thinking about getting one myself.

22. #122
    On June 6th, 2008 at 9:14 pm, zorro said:

    Thanks Martin. My evening prayers always include Michelle and all her readers/commenters. There will certainly be several additional “special intentions” this evening. Thanks again.

23. #123
    On June 7th, 2008 at 12:14 am, Politicalguano said:

    The only country to block increasing its own oil drilling, block nuclear power, block coal power, block natural gas drilling, block power transmission lines,block refineries, block efficient diesel engines is the same country to which will not defend its borders and control immigration, demand those who would become citizens to become Americans (i.e. assimilate), whose schools teach it citizens NEGATIVE citizenship (i.e. America is evil, racist, and the cause of all the planets problems. The same country whose media, teachers, politicians, and legal systems seek to exterminate knowledge of right and wrong and diminish religion. The liberals have attacked the heart, mind, and soul of this Nation. Look for a very strong push soon for a total gun ban before the deterioration of this formerly great nation begins to stink like BO, and people rise up to force those who are guilty out of power. The Dems know a counter-revolution is coming. Watch them unleash a crime wave upon the middle class by emptying the prisons and continuing to undermine justice in the courts. An attack on freedom of speech and of the press is already well underway – BO will do everything possible to silence his critics.
    It is fortunate that so many Dem leaders are elderly and will pass soon naturally.

24. #124
    On June 7th, 2008 at 9:51 am, Marshall Russ said:

    If you have been voting for liberal Dems don’t complain about gas prices!
    This from Powerline

    Who’s to Blame for High Gas Prices?

    For several decades, the Democratic Party has pursued policies designed to drive up the cost of petroleum, and therefore gas at the pump. Remarkably, the Democrats don’t seem to have taken much of a political hit from the current spike in gas prices. Probably that’s because most people don’t realize how different the two parties’ energy policies have been.

    Congressman Roy Blunt put together these data to highlight the differences between House Republicans and House Democrats on energy policy:

    ANWR Exploration House Republicans: 91% Supported House Democrats: 86% Opposed

    Coal-to-Liquid
    House Republicans: 97% Supported
    House Democrats: 78% Opposed

    Oil Shale Exploration
    House Republicans: 90% Supported
    House Democrats: 86% Opposed

    Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Exploration
    House Republicans: 81% Supported
    House Democrats: 83% Opposed

    Refinery Increased Capacity
    House Republicans: 97% Supported
    House Democrats: 96% Opposed

    SUMMARY

    91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of American-made oil and gas.

    86% of House Democrats have historically voted against increasing the production of American-made oil and gas.

    PAUL adds: It’s useful to keep this sort of thing in mind when we hear (on something like a daily basis these days) that the Republicans have run out of ideas or that Republican ideas didn’t work. The truth is that most major Republican ideas weren’t tried because the Democrats blocked them. Increasing the domestic production of oil and gas (a move so obvious it barely meets the standard for being an idea) is hardly the only example. Social security reform and school choice also come quickly to mind. Republican-backed policies for increasing the number of Americans with health insurance were also blocked by Democrats. And so forth.