On June 9th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, lonewolf said:

The Iranian people are 85% pro-Western,anti-mullah. The problem with attacking Iran directly is we will instantly convert them to 100% enemies. Iranians are not Arabs. While they yearn for a regime change, Persian nationalism will unite the nation against outside aggresion.

Then why the “Bomb Here” signs with arrows pointing to Tehran on tops of houses during the reducing of Iraq? There were a *lot* of those!

– martin.musculus

While I agree with Iraq — we need it as a staging area for Iran

It’s funny that Maliki went to Tehran yesterday and pledged Iraq’s support for Iran’s security. The question is now, is Maliki our puppet? Or are we the ignorant ones?

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On June 9th, 2008 at 11:12 am, Ahh a Lion! said:

… So many people will vote for McCain because his commitment to this war, however his commitment to open borders nullifies his security edge. It requires actual double-think to support him based on national security.

Just so.

While I agree with Iraq — we need it as a staging area for Iran — we also need to secure our borders.

The example is something like a “bob & uppercut” in boxing. When your opponent strikes at you, you “bob” — your opponent might get a piece of you, say your shoulder — the bob puts you inside their defenses. At the same time you can aim a knock-out uppercut at your opponents’ button… and punch his clock.

And, we *will* — eventually — have to invade Iran. Most of the cancerious cells are metast. from there… when they get nukes, the cost in blood & treasure will grow so you’ll need log paper to graph it!

— martin.musculus

That’s the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, silly.

CS from CA

I think this shows just how disingenuous the rhetoric regarding this war is. If the elites cared at all about our security, the borders would have been closed down long ago.

So many people will vote for McCain because his commitment to this war, however his commitment to open borders nullifies his security edge. It requires actual double-think to support him based on national security.

This includes the votes and the actions of the committees who’s responsible (even those indirectly involved that throw down roadblocks, (e.g. envir. protection)), that touch on this subject.

The redundency of all of us doing this will protect the info from loss due to damage and/or scrubbing that *will* result from someone taking advantage of the border situation — *And* any kind of abrogation of the 1st amendment that these clowns would institute to save their jobs when it happens.

You just know that Sen. Snort & Co., (…along w/Congressman Jawbone-of-an-A$$… ) will throw-up a smokescreen and then run for cover when this happens — and it doesn’t take a 167 IQ to see it.

Abrogation/cancellation of the Amendments 1st & 2nd? Never happen? Ya, I know — unthinkable!

Except there’s a growing history of ignoring our Founding Document:

1st Amendment: see CFR, (… and watch out! McSham/O’Bomb’r is going to push for more! They *really* don’t trust We The People — or they wouldn’t lie to us so much.)

2nd Amendment: see Katrina. When we find out that the illegal-pandering stupidity was the prime-mover in our vulnerability, the Congresscritters might (rightly or wrongly) fear increased violence against the people responsible.

We will also find — to our amazement — that there were 99 senators in agreement with Sessions on building the fence! *Not * building it was just a silly misunderstanding! And it was the Governer’s fault, ICE’s, our Military’s, the local cop’s, the dogcatcher’s, the paperboy’s, *OUR* fault!

That is *if* they’ll admit it was the failure of our unwritten border policies that resulted in the hit.

None of the weeeeezuuls will admit to dirty hands. It will be at that point, however, that we’ll best be situated to clean both Houses.

– martin.musculus

backwoods conservative said:
Lindsey was quoted in my local paper yesterday as saying that voter anger over his backing amnesty had largely subsided. I’ve got news for him. The SC primary is tomorrow and he is not getting my vote.

Lindsey Graham is dead wrong…it’s not just South Carolinians who are angry at him for backing amnesty. Prior to his support for amnesty, I had him pegged as one of the more reasonable politicians…not anymore.

If you’re going to go out on a limb on something, there has to be a payoff, and on this, there just isn’t.”

Except the FUTURE Safety and economic security of this country.
These politicians, dems especially, are so ME & NOW.
What about the COUNTRY?????