Crazy Denny K swings his impeachment noose again; Wexler mob wants McClellan to testify
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In case you’ve been missing impeachment mob theater, the lead actor is back. Rep. Dennis Kucinich was back on the House floor tonight introducing a 35-count resolution to impeach President Bush. Kucinich delayed introducing the impeachment resolution after speaking with House Judiciary Committee members in January. Guess he got a green light. You’ll recall that five months ago, he promised to bring articles of impeachment against President Bush to the House floor on the day of the State of the Union address–and was forced to withdraw BDS remarks declaring the State of the Union a “lie.”
(See WaPo editorial page editor Fred Hiatt’s demolition of the “Bush lied” mantra here.)
The Cleveland Plain Dealer blog reports:
Cleveland Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich took to the House of Representatives floor on Monday evening to introduce a 35-count resolution to impeach President George W. Bush.
Kucinich claimed Bush “fraudulently” justified the war on Iraq and misled “the American people and members of Congress to believe Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction so as to manufacture a false case for war.”
“President George W. Bush, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office,” Kucinich said.
Kucinich said in January that he planned to launch an impeachment effort against Bush, but delayed his effort after meeting with members of the House Judiciary Committee. The Judiciary Commitee hasn’t acted on a bid Kucinich launched last year to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney.
Update 9:25pm Eastern. He’s still on the House floor reading his resolution. Currently whining about Gitmo and the crackdown on illegal aliens from the Middle East.
Meanwhile, I’m on impeachment co-ringleader Rep. Robert Wexler’s e-mail list. He sent out this message tonight:
Our campaign for accountability for the Bush administration is making legitimate progress.
I am pleased to announce to you that the House Judiciary Committee has met my public call for Scott McClellan’s immediate testimony with action:
Today, Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers officially invited Mr. McClellan to testify under oath on Friday, June 20th at 10AM.
After all of our hard work pushing for impeachment hearings for Vice President Cheney – the McClellan hearing provides our cause with a legitimate opportunity to showcase the crimes and violations of this Administration for the American people, the mainstream media, reluctant members of the Democratic party, and sensible Republicans. This hearing provides us our first genuine opportunity to enter the public consciousness and change the dynamics that have prevented true accountability for Bush and Cheney.
Mr. McClellan was a major figure in the Valerie Plame/CIA scandal, as well as a leading propagandist for the Bush White House’s deliberate attempts to hide the true costs of this war from the American public. As such, Mr. McClellan will testify under oath (and be subject to perjury charges should he lie) and be asked about the following matters:
What role did President Bush, Vice President Cheney , and key administration officials take in the effort to reveal the identity of covert CIA agent Valeria Plame Wilson – thus destroying her network and putting lives in jeopardy?
What role did President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and key administration officials take regarding the firing of U.S. Attorneys or political reasons?
What role did President Bush, Vice President Cheney, key administration officials take in conspiring to blatantly break U.S. and International laws prohibiting the use of torture?
I call on Mr. McClell[a]n to immediately accept this invitation and testify under oath as he previously agreed to while being interviewed on national television.
During the hearing I will have roughly five short minutes to question Mr. McClellan and undercover the illegalities committed by this Administration – which is why it is critically important that every representative on the Judiciary Committee hears your voice. Please let them know that you demand answers to these questions.
Nor should it stop there: Karl Rove has thumbed his nose to the Judiciary Committee’s subpoena – joining Harriet Miers, Joshua Bolten and Vice President Cheney’s Chief of Staff David Addington as the only Administration officials in history to claim Congress has no power to even bring them before a committee to be questioned.
I have called for Karl Rove to be held in inherent contempt and for the other renegade officials to appear as required by their subpoenas, or be forced to do so by the House Sergeant of Arms.
What the Judiciary’s request of McClellan proves is that if we stay vigilant – if we call loudly and repeatedly for accountability - that we become very difficult to ignore.
Please stay tuned. I hope for more developments soon.
Anything to distract from the Dem leadership’s field of broken promises…
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Don’t these people have anything better to do? something? anything at all? good grief. Since 1974 I’ve been tuned in you might say and far and away this is the worst I have ever seen.
I’d almost wish for hearings to begin. Things like the Washington Post article out today would be small potatoes when the actual truth comes out.
Assuming the media will ever let it.
Nah, this is just going to be more hand waving like normal. Look at me! says the Senators. I’m doing something! (sorta)
The impeachment noose Denny K swings does double duty as the Dems’ autoerotic asphyxiation toy. Hope the Jackass Party chokes itself to death.
I’ve never actually met a Buckeye who likes this guy let alone votes for him. Are you all sure he is really a congressman?
Mesage to Democrats:
Wait until the shoe is on the other foot….
Is it just me or does Wexler look a lot like the guy that was the husband on Mary Hartman/Mary Hartman? I can’t take Wexler serious for a number of reasons, but this is one also.
Wexler, unfortunately, was my congress critter. What a “Maroon”, to paraphrase Bugs Bunny.
You would think that Wexler would at least read the reports, that his party wrote, on the subject of actionable intelligence.
God, I hate libs!
Why, what is the point? by the time they got to it, he would already be gone. This is nothing but BDS writ large.
We’ll have to wait until D’ohbama gets it out of his mouth before the Dems can put it on the other foot.
Meanwhile, back on the planet Zercon…………..Who in Ohio is enough out of touch to keep voting this dickweed back in ????
Ah, Kucinich.
When the candidates were in New Hampshire, a lot of radio hosts were broadcasting from there and interviewing them. Kucinich appeared on Boortz’ show, and Boortz grilled him good. I wish I could find the audio link, because it was priceless. Here it is in a nutshell, though:
“Did you hear my interview of Kucinich yesterday? Amazing, absolutely amazing. Kucinich started rambling about getting rid of the Bush tax cuts and making the rich pay their fair share of taxes, so I decided it might be time to see if this 10th District Congressman from Ohio actually knew what he was talking about.
He didn’t.
Kucinich has a long history in congress of trying to shift the tax burden away from low and middle income Americans onto the backs of the high-achievers. In 2003 he sponsored a law that would give a “refundable” tax credit to protect low and middle income people from having to pay Social Security or Payroll taxes. Kucinich, who is chairman of the “Progressive” (that means liberal) Caucus also proposed something he called a “tax dividend” for every man, woman and child. Well, almost every man, woman and child. He wanted to limit the dividends paid to the top 1% of income earners to only 1% of the total tax cut.
Well, there’s our clue. Kucinich doesn’t have any idea in the world how much of the total taxes are paid by the top one percent of income earners … so I asked him two questions:
1. What percentage of total income is earned by the top 1% of income earners?
2. What percentage of total federal income taxes are paid by the top 1% of income earners.
The answers were astounding. Congressman Dennis Kucinich thinks that the top 1% of income earners earns about 60% of all income, and he thinks that they pay about 15% of all income taxes. The fact is that the top 1% of all income earners pull in about 18% of all income and pay 38.8% of all income taxes.
This is an astounding level of ignorance on such an important statistic. You can excuse a mother of three loading up on Happy Meals for her porky little kids at a McDonalds for not knowing this .. .but a member of the Congress? Remember .. the Clinton tax increase passed the House of Representatives by only one vote … and Kucinich was there … there without a clue … there voting for a tax increase on people he thought earned 60% of all the income but were only paying 15% of all income taxes. Inexcusable.”
Not that I need affirmation of the stupidity of democrats, but what exactly are they trying to do, lose another election.
The 2000 election, considering the state of the economy and the country at the time, should have been a slam dunk win for the dems, but from the clutches of victory, the inventor of the internet was able to lose and then have the audacity to blame it all on the votes in Florida which never turned in his favor.
Then in 2004, amidst a great fury of media hatred and deception, the dems should have all but walked away with a victory, but behold, they nominate a man they can not even put on camera lest he screw it up and they still screwed it up.
Now, here they go again in the midst of an election. The good news, is they decided, you know, if we can win with one, let’s have two democrats run. Surely, they are bound to have a liberal in the WH this time, or . . . is Bob Barr right around the corner . . .
This stuff is a waste of time, unless there is a real smoking gun out there.
IF Cheney greenlighted the release of Plames’s name, he’s a petty, unpatriotic piece of trash.
Well Michelle, this Congress has failed to perform, but they haven’t gotten help from the WhiteHouse.
The great thing about this fall election, is that a win by Obama means that the American people are putting the blame for this country’s numerous problems squarely at the feet of the Republicans. And what if the Dems pick up some more seats? November will show who the big Loser is. Is it the democratically controlled Congress, or the pathetic Bush administration? Say what you will about Obama’s faults, but he may be in the right place at the right time.
We shall see Michelle, we shall see.
Is Scott really sure he wants to go up to the hill and testify under oath about anything?
He is either going to have to commit perjury or admit he lied to his diary.
If I were a Democrat the last thing I would want was Scott McClellan testifying under oath.
And I cannot believe Mr. Kucinich could introduce a 35-count resolution. Frankly, I don’t think the man can count that high!
No help from the White House?Thank God.These people on the left are very dangerous.
Nutroots love to hate,
empower them now,
oBORGama in 08.
Poor Scott McClellan. He is p*issing into his Jack Daniels, big time.
Can you imagine anyone hiring such a back-stabber for a job requiring trust and loyalty?
…and I asked earlier, why are STILL democrats? If I were going to vote for the first time, I would take stock of the left and vote Republican down the line.
Why has this idiot not been recalled?
Ye gods! How about letting a fact or two through the Fortress of Solitude that is your cranium. Richard Armitage was the leaker. Not Cheney, not Rove, not Bush, not Elvis, not Kim Jong-il…A-R-M-I-T-A-G-E.
Let your CDS go.
What kinda BS is this? Shouldn’t Congress be able to stand on its own two feet?
I suppose Congress’s 18% approval rating is George Bush’s fault too. The only losers come November will be the American people. It’s widely known Senators make bad Presidents. There is, however, one exception to that rule and it isn’t Osama.
Die Hippy, Die
Love the moniker. Where have you been? I have been enjoying your posts!!!
Ummm using facts to support a case will not fly with some people. It makes you look like a conservative - you know “grumpy”!
mistressjustice,
Haven’t gotten help from the white house???? President Bush has rarely met a bill he didn’t like. Hell, it took him about 7 years for him to exercise his first veto.
Man, you are out there.
Thanks soap. Have been posting for a while. Old screen name is no longer geographically accurate. Say no more, say no more.
LOL khan. You think Bush would have done any damage with a line item veto? NAH.
let them go nuts on impeachment. with the dimocrats busy playing with their majority on a lame duck potus, the damage they cause will be reduced.
The White House and Congress are deliberately two separate entities, mistressjustice. If the Congress, controlled by what appears to be your
partyfaction, is so feckless that they need help from the White House, just exactly who is pathetic? Sorry to toss a hardball your way–not!CNN/AP writer thinks Henry Kissinger is a war criminal in fluff piece on Stephen Colbert.
Link to CNN
In my nutty town there are more Kucinich for Pres signs than Obama ones.
It’s a great comfort to me.
I guess you didn’t see that big I F at the start of my post huh, Die hippie? It’s there on the second line of post # 13…I swear look….. I F .
Scooter Libby’s conviction, and McClellan’s words seem to imply more to the story. No CDS here son, cause IF Cheney is completely innocent, his name was wrong dragged through the mud. Let’s see what the IF’s lead to, unless you have some type of inside information bigshot.
I don’t if Cheney was responsible or not, but if he took part, out of some petty B.S. with Wilson, he’s a terrible human being.
Khan,
This Congress that I speak of took office in 2006, and their agenda’s couldn’t pan out because, yes Bush decided to start exercising his right to veto, the following year, once this new Congress got their bills together. I know you are a kinda a smart guy, so I’m sure you know that your Congress from 2006 isn’t your same group from 2000 or 2004 for that matter. Seriously, dude.
NotaSlick
I took 6th grade social studies also. LOL. Both the democratic controlled Congress and Bush are pathetic, and that’s why there poll #s are in the toilet. Of course, you know that they need to work together to get Congress’ bill passed, and come to some common ground on their respective agendas. This Congress hasn’t been able to get their promises fulfilled, because Bush didn’t support them, and they couldn’t gather enough bipartisen support to override. The November elections will show who the Americans blame for the state of things.
I’m going to bed, and I’ll check back tomorrow afternoon.
You have brought the MSM acceptance of a planned political smear against Bush.
Ever why Wilson was chosen to drink sweet tea for a couple of days in Africa, and issue a report on whether Saddam Hussein was seeking uranium in Africa?
Why he issued his report, not to State or the CIA, but in a New York Times editorial?
You do know that an antiwar State Department aide of Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, was Novak’s source that Valerie Plame, Wilson’s wife, was CIA. That Armitage informed Patrick Fitzgerald, the confirmed bachelor special prosecutor, that he was the source early in the investigation, but that Fitzgerald, perhaps with Andrew Sullivan-esque motivations, didn’t inform anyone at the White House but continued asking questions, until he finally got Scooter Libby to contradict himself, not in an attempt to obstruct justice, but because he probably forgot?
If you only read the MSM, you are dangerously uninformed.
Let’s see, GWB has approx. 7 months left in office, oil prices are surging, illegals are flaunting our laws, jihadists want to kill us, and these boobs only have time to have impeachment hearings on a lame duck president for protecting the country.
God Help Us!
Sorry, I stopped reading half way through the first paragraph.
So, if they do impeach him, what are the Dems and Nutroots going to do when he’s aquitted or wrongdoing? Will it be like the Great Disappointment of 1844?
Maybe Kuchinich’s UFO will swoop down and pick his worthless butt up.
I didn’t know where else to post this, but honestly, Obama thinks suspending the gas tax for the summer is a cheap political trick, but not issuing another $50 billion in federal dollars? Laughable.
I wonder if failure in securing our national borders is one of those 35 counts. Its Bush’s legacy that because of his failure to do so, he may have given the White House to the likes of Obama.
mistressjuctice said:
Apparently you did not pass. LOL.
Actually it is because the dem party is infected with freezer filled illicit money–marxist celebrating–America hating, mean spirited racist (hate “whitey”) thugs. I forgot to mention that their promises were/are as empty as their suits (pant-suits for some). You would think the gay/lesbiens and other minorities would have learned from good ‘ol Slick. That is, the dems are complete fakes when it comes to inclusion–except when it comes to your vote. After the election it is and always has been–”C-ya suckers!”. Those that vote dem on the grounds of inclusion/multiculturalism are nothing more that useful fools of their hallowed
partyfaction.Yes they will–and–you are the one in for a surprise.
We might be incensed at Crazy Denny, but are we ready to fight to protect Bush and Cheney?
I forgot. Your “blame Bush” crap for everything that is wrong (perceived or otherwise) is so inane it shows that your entire education has been a complete waste of taxpayer dollars. Most assuredly you must also believe that the President (only Bush of course) could have stopped Hurricane Katrina in it’s tracks (ala Superman), can alter the price of gasoline, change individuals bad credit habits and “talk” terrorists into giving up the jihad.
Maybe you are really Jimmy Carter pretending to be a MM reader. Hmm. Te-hee!
The purpose of the impeachment is not the impeachment.
It is timed to crescendo the first Monday in Nov. — not the ncessarily the vote for impeachment, but the alligations.
*That* is the reason for the Kabuki. They want to ride the payback to the destruction of the GOP.
Personally, I don’t know why they bother … the GOP is doing a good job of self-destruction w/no help from the outside.
Well, off to bed.
– martin.musculus
Politics. Waste of time and a waste of taxpayer money to support the radical democrats. Hey, Kucinich, what are you going to impeach Cheney for? Last time I checked, the VP wasn’t in charge of anything, much less policy, except to bang a gavel and vote in a tie. As an American, I have nothing but total disgust with our congress. All I see is “showboating”; that, and an overwhelming desire to destroy the American dream in favor of a nanny country.
The government really has to be restructured soon or our nation is going to implode. Whatever happened to “The powers of the federal government are few and well defined?
The president should preside. The house and senate should legislate and the Scotus should uphold the laws of the states and prevent them from conflicting with one another. Very little more should ever be done … much less the grandstanding, partisan bickering and the ultimate destruction of our nation that these bloated bureaucratic buffoons are working on now.
Wartip, excuse my saying so, but you sound like that Mormom fellow who wrote the book: “The Constitution: A Heavenly Banner”, Ezra T. Benson.
Its been years since I’ve read it, but that is very close to one of the passages I seem to remembr in it.
Have you read it?
– martin.musculus
No they’ll just probe it. There’s something terribly Freudian about K’s alien fantasies.
Let me take a moment to appologize for the North East corner of Ohio.
Maybe Michigan wants it?
Agreed. I’m with AJ,…
Does Wexler not have someone proofing his correspondence, before it goes out?
Let’s see…when the Dems took over control of both houses, gas was $2.20 a gallon. They promised to change that, and change it they did–for the worse. But impeachment of a president who has four months left in office is what’s on their front burner?
I came across Denny K. doing his thing last night and couldn’t stop watching. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Seriously, does he and the Dem leadership think this is going to help the cause for Obama? I personally don’t think so because as it gets closer to the election and they trot this little show out, they will find most voters will be turned off by these antics.
The only ones they will seem to placate are the nutroots of the Dem Party (who seem to be in control of the House sadly).
Finally, on Sat. HIllary mentioned that of the last 10 Prez elections, Dems only took 3 (Bill C. x2). Does it dawn on these people why that is? Surely they can’t be that stupid? But here is Denny K. trying his best to help the cause.
As bad as the Republicans are, the Dems seem to be worse.
A gentleman can’t comment on the like of these without fearing saying something intemperate. Sigh.
I live in Cleveland. You know, the city that actually elected the K-man as mayor… Any who, as atheling already noted, during the Ohio primary there were more yellow Kucinich signs on front lawns than Obama signs.
I knew my puppy was a republican when he would lift his little leg & wiz on those yellow signs. “Good boy!”
Wow…what a kangaroo court this will be. Let’s see. McClellan writes a book that Matalan and Carville say is not recognizable from its original form, and that, basically, the hard left wrote it for him (since it fits very well their talking points). Now, UFO man Denny wants to put Rove and Cheney on “trial” based on this work of fiction? How on earth could Rove and Cheney possibly get a fair shake from clowns like the moonbat from outer space?
I know we rag on the Hosehead Human Rights Commission, but geez, we miiiiiight want to lay off the schmack. Methinks we’re doing basically the same thing here. *out*
The dysfunctional Democratic Party leadership of both houses of Congress has not only been unable to pass any freaking (trying to keep my language under control) item it promised in 06 other than a minimum wage increase. If anything it has had the reverse effect especially when looking at their promises on fixing the price of oil/gasoline now shooting going through the roof under their inept leadership. Now Queen Pelosi has allowed the twisted alien spotting elf from Ohio and flaring nostrils Wexler to waste valuable time on their BDS theatre instead of addressing the current energy crisis the Democrats and RINOs have engineered over the last 30 years. The only way we are going to get right of these perpetual children is to either vote them out (highly unlikely due to the Democrats love of voter fraud and fixed elections) or an uprising of the masses to run this morons out of DC on a rail after a good tar and feathering. I am really getting sick of this crap and so are many clear thinking people in this country (not that there are many of us from what you see from the MSM and their manufactured polling results).
Anytime Dennis Kucinich (D - Outer Space) opens his yap…you know it is about to be nutty.
The People of his Ohio District should apologize to the world, for sending this raving nut-case to Washington.
The crimes Clinton was accused of didn’t hurt as many people. Bush lied, people died. That’s the truth.
Ahh, the Bush lied, people died slogan that some 5 year old can recite.
Look at your own statement:
The crimes Clinton was accused of didn’t hurt as many people
So….its ok for Clinton to do something, as long as its numerically less than something a Republican does? That’s rather nice of you!
If you want to talk about people being hurt, Clinton and his pro-Chinese stance(ya know, where he was giving them missile secrets and other scandles…the Tsu being on the other foot as it were LOL)…China has such a PERFECT human rights record and never harms anyone…well, we dont want to discuss that because it didnt hurt as many…or did it…
The argument about Bush’s decisions and the damage its caused arent so arguable based on the numbers, but you’re not going with that. There are tons of things that Clinton, and liberals in general, have done to harm others and you don’t complain.
How’s that Darfur thing going, btw? Just saying.
Amazing, the DO NOTHING CONGRESS wants to do LESS. Makes sense to me!!!
Okay, so you’re one of those “loud” guys who likes to type in hyperbole. Again, I’ll rationally state that this Congress has been unable to get bipartisen support for their bills, and Bush has used his veto to block important legislation. I’ve also said that Congress and Bush are both pathetic, so your “blame Bush” rant on #40, is childishly boring and off base.
Talk to strawmen much?
See I passed social studies AND reading comprehension. Save the ranting and blowhard tendencies for the local tavern. Goodbye Silly, and get back to me in November.
1. ARMITRAGE released the name.
2.Plame was NOT in a covered position, so “outing her” is NOT POSSIBLE. And aside form that, she had already done so herself by openly associating herself with the CIA to peopel with outh the requisite clearances and need to know.
Already ruled on by the courts.
Why are they flogging an obviously dead horse falsehood? (Other than their allies in the mainstream press are covering for them by NOT publicizing the truth).
Have the Dems gone stark raving mad in their hatred?
We are being governed by schizophrenics, mentally ill people who have utterly split with factual reality.
Yes, some have. Again, this is all a waste of time without a “smoking gun” or new evidence. Gas is over 4 bucks a gallon and people are freaked out about the economy. The Democrats have an election to win in November, and this impeachment jazz appears to be a big waste as of right now.
pueblo1032 said:
Actually, house leader Pelosi stated that she will not bring impeachment motions to the floor so that the business of the House is not interrupted.
Ordinary Coloradan said:
Scott McLellan said in his new book that Bush told him he authorized releasing Plame’s name.
.mistressjustice said:
First off, you might want to invest in a pocket dictionary as your use of the word hyperbole is, well to use one of your other words–silly. Secondly, you must be one of those “loud” women who like to scream their message:
Emphasis (loud) yours not mine. Also, Bush used his first veto of dem pork barreling July 19, 2006, a full five and a half years into his presidency. He’s only had some 10 vetos in all and mostly were employed because the bills presented were loaded with pork having nothing to do with the underlying purpose of the bill. I don’t recall even one bill having been presented by Obama or any other dem in regards to energy so how exactly has Bush caused that problem? The so-called housing/mortgage crises? Where’s the veto? Hardly a record of presidential obstruction as you whine about. Show us the evidence blow-hard and quit using statements without the facts to back them. “Talk to strawmen much?” Ahaha, that was too easy.
Now, it only gets better:
And then:
Yes you sound quite rational.
On June 10th, 2008 at 9:19 am, lgm said:
The crimes Clinton was accused of didn’t hurt as many people. Bush lied, people died. That’s the truth.
No, lgm, the crimes Clinton did that hurt so many people were not investigated and tried. Clinton sent the U.S. Armed Forces into Kosovo in order to stop the “brutal” Serb Army from hurting the Muslim Albanians. The Army kicked the Serb forces out of the villages and towns and formed barricades to prevent the Serbs from getting back in. This allowed the Albanians to go on a rampage against the Serbs. You know, all that peaceful stuff they are about, cutting off heads, burning down churches, raping women. The U.S. forces orders were to keep the Serb army out.
A young guy from my reserve unit, i did not go on deployment there, came back and told me that he thought the Albanians were the worst people in the world after seeing that they had burned down an elderly Serb woman’s home. She was sitting across the street screaming, but the mission was not to help, just keep the Serb Army from being able to protect the Serbs.
It turns out, even the U.N. had to admit that the so called atrocities committed by the Serbs were not factual. The Republican Congress should have crucified Clinton for dragging the U.S. into the middle of a conflict where the facts were not really true and apparently “cherry picked” intelligence was used to make us a puppet of the U.N.
Hy*per”bo*le\, n. [L., fr. Gr?, prop., an overshooting, excess, fr. Gr. ? to throw over or beyond; "ype`r over + ? to throw. See Hyper-, Parable, and cf. Hyperbola.] (Rhet.) A figure of speech in which the expression is an evident exaggeration of the meaning intended to be conveyed, or by which things are represented as much greater or less, better or worse, than they really are; a statement exaggerated fancifully, through excitement, or for effect.
Description of Straw Man
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of “reasoning” has the following pattern:
Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.
Grow-up slick.
As I said before–facts please, facts and no more of your “fallacies”. I’ve already demolished your vague statements regarding Bush being obstructionist with actual facts. It is quite funny to see how you seem to think that just because you make unsupported blanket statements that they must be true. Simply because you say something does not make it true. Hyperventilating will do you no good and your “position” is devoid of any factual information and therefore is quite easy to attack.
You might want to take your own advice mistress and grow-up child.
Okay, I get it. You want me to go through all of the failed legislation I remember off the top of my head, and find on-line, and then you come back with:
Pork
Pork
Amnesty(Bush supported)
Immoral
Pork
Too Much $$
Surrender
Retreat
Surrender
Pork
I don’t wanna play that game, and I see it coming. Nah, I’ll save us both the time. I’m done, so go back to ranting at strawpeople.
Funny how the leftists always cut and run when faced with facts. Projection is always a good tool for you folks also. Nice try. You were just too easy with your cardboard “position”. Thanks for the laughs and you can now go back to whining your empty and baseless “blame everybody else” thoughts. Oh, try them in a local tavern; you seem to think that’s the place to go.
I say let crazy Denny shout it out loud.
He just makes himself look more the fool.
RWR
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