Michelle Malkin » The buzz about Barack’s birth certificate

The buzz about Barack’s birth certificate

By Michelle Malkin • June 10, 2008 07:39 AM

Jim Geraghty takes a look at longstanding blog buzz over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which the campaign refused to release to the St. Petersburg Times in April:

We tried to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but his campaign would not release it and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

Has anyone seen it? Why shouldn’t the record be in the public domain for presidential candidates?

Geraghty walks through various rumors now circulating in the wake of the Obama campaign’s birth certificate blackout, including this one:

Rumor Three: His mother did not want to name him after his father, and his birth certificate says “Barry.” Perhaps the most plausible of the rumors, as Obama was known by that name through much of his childhood and young adulthood. If true, this would spur a new round of “When Barry Became Barack” stories – a minor headache for the campaign, but hardly a major scandal.

Lest the Obama campaign start whining about this issue being an unfair “distraction,” John McCain underwent intense scrutiny of his citizenship status because of his birth in the Panama Canal zone, leading the Senate to declare him a natural-born citizen in April.

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#101

On June 10th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, Thunder_Run said:

The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - Web Reconnaissance for 06/10/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.
#102

On June 10th, 2008 at 12:51 pm, swmbo said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 10:32 am, franksalterego said:
Would I be alone if I thought that electing someone with Muslim roots is not a very good idea?

Of course this might take care of the immorality in NY. They will behead all those nasty women. sarcasm off.
#103

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, nuss said:

Call me a nit-picker, but Obama is not the first black POTUS candidate. He may be the first mulatto POTUS candidate, or if “mulatto” is politically incorrect…perhaps the first “mélangée” POTUS candidate. The “first black POTUS candidate” is simply illogical. Hey, half of my caucasian genome infects his genome. Give me a break!!!
#104

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, Mookie said:
I was just pointing that out in relation to the passport question. I think his lapse in returning is shameful.

Traveling as a Senator, would he NEED a passport. I am sure he did not fly commercial.
#105

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, mauioriginal said:

Does an birth certificate from Hawaii around the time Obama was born list one’s religion?

Although my birth certificate (from HI) is from 1972, it does not show religion on it. Other than basic birth info and parent’s names, it shows parents race. I think in the case of BHO that’s a given and not anything that is being questioned. My father couldn’t even walk in and get a copy of my birth certificate in Hawaii without a notarized statement from me.
Even if BHO’s birth certificate has some guy listed as “Chuck” under father the left will brush that off.
1. We’ll never know, because he’ll never release it. And hey, that’s ok because the left will say it’s none of our business. And 2. Even if he did, no matter what we see on it the Messiah could do no wrong because he will save us all from the evil Republicans.
Gag….The most ethical congress evahhhhh
#106

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, atheling said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 9:42 am, Nichevo said:

The law you’re quoting applies only to a child not born in the U.S. Barack’s mother was born in Kansas, and any child born to her anywhere in the U.S. would automatically be a citizen, regardless of the father’s nationality

Not so. A child of American citizens (or of one American citizen), can be born anywhere in the world and be a US citizen, so long as the acknowledged parent(s) are American. That child just cannot run for POTUS.
#107

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, cicerokid said:

He must release his BC as requirements for his office….
#108

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, atheling said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 10:32 am, franksalterego said:

Would I be alone if I thought that electing someone with Muslim roots is not a very good idea?

You are not alone. And it is not simply because he has Muslim roots, it is because he spent his formative years in a culturally foreign land. He went to school in Indonesia, and never had to say the Pledge of Allegiance all that time. He was never raised with any sense of civic duty and love for America. Indeed, his mother hated America, and anyone who thinks that this has not influenced him (even subconsciously) is a self deceptive fool.

Yes, we know that he refused to wear the flag pin. And yes, we all saw that photo of him with his hands folded in front of him during the national anthem while Hillary and Bill Richardson held their hands over their hearts. No matter how much the left will spin and lie about it, the fact remains that Barack Obama is NOT one of us!

And his choice of associates reflect that truth: William Ayers, Wright, et al… are all America-hating radicals who seek to overthrow and bring this country to its knees because of their racism, anger, venality and hostility to Western civilization.

Barack Obama is NOT an American. Whether his birth certificate says he is or not, the fact remains that he is culturally foreign to America.
#109

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, lgm said:

The big political news today is that Obama and McCain are discussing economic policy — taxes, spending, that kind of thing.

McCain’s platform makes no sense. He’s going to cut taxes even more and still balance the budget by cutting “pork”. The problem with this is that although there is lots of pork, there is not that much.

So MM doesn’t want the debate to be on economics. She would lose that debate. She makes up a non issue — Obama’s passport.
#110

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, AlohaGuy said:

I volunteeer to go looking for his birth certificate. I’ll try and bring a copy out stuffed up my pants leg.
#111

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, Jim M. said:

One of the reasons candidates release documents is to avoid the type of creeping suspicion that can have a negative impact on their run.

Obama is not exactly pure on the toic of releasing confidential documents. His Republican opponent in the Senate race was forced to drop out when dcuments were released by a California court on his divorce proceedings. The pressure to release those sealed divorce proceedings came from the press, and it appears that David Axelrod was a prime mover behing the scenes in forcing that disclosure.

This is not some dirty record of divorce, were outrageous accusations are par for the course since there is no family court that has ever sanctioned a party for making false statements in a pleading.

A birth certificate. Not much information there except, well, details of one’s birth. Having already released his wife’s Princeton Thesis, which seems to be more remote an issue, why get so protective of some generic document that provides little detail to begin with?

It only fules speculation as to the reasons why, and frankly can do no good for the candidate himself (unless it is a distraction they want out there to mask other issues that may be bubbling to the surface).

In the late 50’s and early 60’s, it was relatively scandalous for a teenager to become pregnant out of wedlock. It was not unusual for the young lady to leave town to deal with her pregnancy to avoid public humiliation to both her and her family. Was Obama even born in Hawaii?

It seems riduculous that he is not willing to produce a record that has a direct impact on his Constitutional qualifications for Presidential office. Especially when the document in question is a requirement for everything from Passports, to Social Security cards to drivers licenses.

And he knows darn well that his refusal to do so will lead to rampant speculation - in essence he is knowingly creating a controversey that he will try to deem as irrelevant.
#112

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:41 pm, AlohaGuy said:

Here the State of Hawaii explains that records are protected by law (everything here is a secret), but note - “Certified copies of these records may be issued to authorized individuals and used for such diverse purposes as school entry, passports, Social Security participation, driver’s licenses, employment, sports participation, survivor’s benefits, proof of property rights, and other needs.” I highlighted “employment”. He wants to be President - don’t we the people have a right to see this? Lawsuit anyone?
#113

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, fourstringfuror said:

Lgm -

Your village called. They want their idiot back.

Mrs. Malkin did not “make up” this issue - she’s reporting on it. Why is it her job to “debate” issues anyway? She speaks HER mind, on HER blog, and you have the nerve to insinuate that she’s afraid to debate, because she hasn’t yet blogged about your issue of choice? Are you right in the head?

Get a life.
#114

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, lgm said:
So MM doesn’t want the debate to be on economics. She would lose that debate. She makes up a non issue — Obama’s passport.

Michelle would wipe the floor with you on any subject you would choose to debate her on. She is living it in the DC area and writing blogs and books on the subject while you are plucking pink boa feathers from you dress in CA. BTW, she did not “make up” a non issue. Your personal attacks on Michelle aside, you are still an idiot.
#115

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, chicagojedi said:

AlohaGuy - You make an excellent point. As his possible employers through election (ugh) we have legal right to inspect his birth certificate in regards to his eligibility for the position of POTUS. I could really care less what religion, if any, is listed on there. I just want to know that this man who spent a good chunk of his life in foreign lands is legally able to hold office. Where are the conservative groups hiring lawyers to release the birth certificate?
#116

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, henryinga said:

I’ve seen it mentioned several times about Barack Hussein Obama’s DUAL CITIZENSHIP, and have asked myself can he be a citizen of two different countrys and still be eligible to be POTUS? I’m glad this “non-issue” has surfaced. You have to be brain dead, if you think someone running for the highest office in the world might not be a citizen. Maybe this is the miricale I’ve been praying for!!!
#117

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, Mohawk said:

Thanks Michelle I was wondering why everyone has been calling him Barry. Now I don’t even have to ask.

Barry?!

Never met an African American named Barry before.
#118

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, Bob in Myrtle Beach said:

So if Obama becoming president, will make him the first (illegal) Naturalized Citizen President, doesn’t that open the door for Arnold the Terminator to run?
#119

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, Mister P said:

That’s simply not true. He’s never been less than honest about his mixed race heritage, and talks a great deal about his mother in his two books.

He says he is black, not me. Since he says he is black then she can NOT be his mother since she is white. This is just simple logic, and genetics.
#120

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, sambo said:

Bob in Myrtle Beach said:
So if Obama becoming president, will make him the first (illegal) Naturalized Citizen President, doesn’t that open the door for Arnold the Terminator to run?

and most of the people over at CAIR.
#121

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, txvet2 said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, lgm said:

The big political news today is that Obama and McCain are discussing economic policy — taxes, spending, that kind of thing.

McCain’s platform makes no sense. He’s going to cut taxes even more and still balance the budget by cutting “pork”. The problem with this is that although there is lots of pork, there is not that much.

So MM doesn’t want the debate to be on economics. She would lose that debate. She makes up a non issue — Obama’s passport.

Here’s an idea. Start your own blog, and post anything you want. Then if anybody actually reads it, you can debate whatever subject pleases you to your heart’s content.
#122

On June 10th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, sambo said:

lgm said:
McCain’s platform makes no sense. He’s going to cut taxes even more and still balance the budget by cutting “pork”. The problem with this is that although there is lots of pork, there is not that much.

The problem is you don’t understand econ 101. Reduce taxes = strong economy = increase in gov revenue. If you don’t believe it just look at history. You say you didn’t do to good in hist 101 either?
#123

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, mauioriginal said:

Entelechy on June 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM at Hotair.com said:

Romeo13, you are right about why Hillary only “suspended”, and I said it wasn’t over, and listed this point, but you are wrong on the media. They have known this for at least a few months and some are diligently at work to resolve it, from both sides of the isle, incredibly.

It came fully to their attention during Passportgate. Please make a huge note of this - that’s where the kernel lies, to be sprouted.

To preempt this, the Obama team, via the guy in charge of the contractors involved in Passportgate, went into the records at the State Department. The boss, the guy in charge, is also an advisor to Obama. They wanted to retrieve the records so as to never have to risk them seeing the light.

However, the three who did the dirty work were caught. The chief had no idea that the department had a backup and corss-check system in place, which caught them.

If you recall, two were fired immediately, and the third, who’s cooperating with the investigation, was retained by the State Dapartment until the investigation is over.

If you also recall, when Passportgate first broke, Obama yelled the ‘loudest’ on how carless the Bush Admin. is with the records. Please recall that by breaking into the dossiers they wanted to retrieve Obamas, but got a hold also of Hillary’s and Mr. Cheney’s, I believe (I’m sure about Obama and Hillary, but there was a 3rd one, and I think it was Mr. Cheney’s).

Anyway, it was a cover on the part of Obama to yell so loud, becaues the break-in was done by his side. Immediately as they were trapped, Condoleezza Rice put the kabash on it, the lid on it, and after that complete SILENCE.

Then there was the faux McCain citizenship rah, rah, and recall the no other than Obama expressed support for it first, and then co-authored the totally unnecessary bill in the Senate to “make McCain” legitimate. This was all huwey.

What the media, and us, need to vigorously pursue is the results of Passportgate, number one, not only getting a copy of the birthcertificate, but what the findings are of the breakin.

Also, there’s more to this story regarding a bunch of trips that Obama’s mother undertook from Hawaii to the Philippines when he was little, and why. It also has something to do with birth, citizenship, clarification of the entire record.

Hillary is wainting in the wings. Get ready for Hillary/McCain. Don’t think for a second that the media and Hillary didn’t know this, and please don’t accept that the conservatives are doing dirty work here. It was all started by the Obama camp to retrieve whatever it is that they are covering up.

Seems like the most plausible thing I’ve heard yet.
#124

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, barthook said:

When I joined the United States Navy I needed to show a copy of my birth certificate. Shouldn’t the person applying to be the Commander-in-Chief be required to do the same?
#125

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pm, lonewolf said:

My daughter was born to two American parents in a military hospital in Germany in 1954. She held dual citizenship until age 21 when she had to actively choose a country. She chose American.
#126

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, fulldroolcup said:

Lgm -

Your village called. They want their idiot back.

Actually, lgm’s village is auctioning him off on eBay, without reserve.

Item 58989603956

Only five minutes left, and…no bids!!!
#127

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, mistressjustice said:

He says he is black, not me. Since he says he is black then she can NOT be his mother since she is white. This is just simple logic, and genetics.

Oh yes, you are correct. Since he does consider himself to be African-American, we should ignore him when he says that he’s mixed race. We should ignore the fact that he says he’s born to a white mother and a Kenyan father. But, how dare Warren G. Harding call himself white? I guess I see where you’re going, since it is indeed impossible for Obama to have a white mother. Let’s go find the real black woman who gave birth to his black ass. By decoding this mystery Mr. P., you may have saved the election for the republican party. Obama’s not mixed race at all….he’s Black, and that woman from Kansas is NOT his mother. But is he black? Obviously, a person doesn’t have a right to define themselves any way they wish. Damn Obama, and Halle Berry along with him. Clearly Obama wasn’t treated like a black person growing up by his peers and communities, and he knows NOTHING about what it means to be black in America.

And now I know why Obama hasn’t released his birth certificate. It’s crystal clear. Damn that Barack Obama…if that is his real name
#128

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, gayle said:

Mother = Donkey
Father = Satan

End of discussion.
#129

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, DBNinKY said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, lgm said:

So MM doesn’t want the debate to be on economics. She would lose that debate. She makes up a non issue — Obama’s passport.

B. Hussein Obama would be a complete disaster for the US economy!

He has no economic experience of any tangible sort whatsoever: he’s never run a business; he’s never held a position of consequence in the private sector; he’s never been responsible for meeting the budgetary controls of a for-profit organization - making a payroll, maintaining a balance sheet or, for that matter, even balancing a checkbook (probably not even his own) - and just look at the bucket load of spending proposals he’s busily touting, replete with bailouts and handouts for everyone!

How are we to pay for all those freebies?!

What B.HO apparently fails to understand is the more he spends, the deeper into debt he places our nation, which has the disastrous result of moving the U.S. credit rating down from AAA to “high risk,” debtor-nation status.

Reducing our nation’s credit rating from high to low would make it next to impossible for the fed government to acquire funds/ready cash from its primary source - the sale of US bonds and Notes to foreign investors - who, like all smart bankers, are extremely reluctant to lend/invest money in high risk loans.

So while John McCain may not have all the economic experience one would hope for in a presidential candidate, we know he will not prove to be economic disaster like B. Hussein Obama.
#130

On June 10th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, dakine said:

gayle, you should be banned for that last comment. Absolutely reprehensible.

atheling, quite an accomplishment given the vacuous nature of most of your posts, but that last one is your most inane and ridiculous comment yet.

This blog post and the corresponding comments demonstrates why the fringe right and the fringe left are pretty much the same…unhinged. It’s entertaining though.
#131

On June 10th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, txvet2 said:

Clearly Obama wasn’t treated like a black person growing up by his peers and communities, and he knows NOTHING about what it means to be black in America.

Your sarcasm is noted, but in this instance you accidently swerved into the truth, as he makes clear in his book.
#132

On June 10th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Mookie said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, gayle said:

Mother = Donkey
Father = Satan

End of discussion.

Gayle = Dumbass
#133

On June 10th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, bit_boy said:

legendx3 #19, thanks for your analysis. I did some google research and came up with 312,000 links regarding Obie’s birth but none that I looked at came near as informative as your post. A gold star for the day is not enough.
#134

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, love2rumba said:

Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 8:52 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
The new thing I keep seeing is the existence of supposed scurrilous e-mails claiming Barak Obama is a Muslim. Terrible, mean spirited Republicans trying to confuse the truth.

Except, of course, born to a Muslim father and a woman who had a thing for Muslim men, never marrying a non-Muslim in her life, Obama was, by Muslim law, a Muslim at birth. Not to mention being registered as a Muslim in Indonesia, or, according to his half-sister, sometimes attending Friday prayers at the masjid with his step-dad in Indonesia.

Now, I don’t think Obama is a Manchurian candidate closet Muslim. Although he became a fluent Arabic speaker in Indonesia as a young boy, I strongly suspect he developed into an agnostic or atheist, when he core beliefs in Marxism were being developed, and his membership at TUCC was a sham to give him street cred.

If I had to guess, BO is an apostate Muslim (by their definition), whose religion is Marx, and whose former affiliation with TUCC was for political purposes, not hurt by the radical amti-American stance of that ‘church’

Bingo, ED.
#135

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, love2rumba said:

It does seem kind of unfair that the Dems hide medical and now birth certificate records when the other side does not….

I still recall the inane demands for Reagan’s medical records when he was President-and when Bill Clinton did a lot to hide his (like firing the White House physician of more than several administrations) the minute he took office….
#136

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, wighttrasch said:

Wow; now if you had made a comment along the lines of Bush=monkey, no one would have anything to say…well, the resident trolls wouldn’t have anything to say.
#137

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:19 pm, suek said:

Comment on American Thinker:

“Did Obama ever register with the Selective Service? No one may serve in the Executive Branch of govt. if they never registered. If the Dem party and election commissions are using Wikipedia and Google to ‘vet’ him, this will never be disclosed. The Reps should be looking in to this, as well as anyone able to do so.

Posted by: arrowsmith1 | June 10, 2008 05:42 AM”

I did a bit of a search, and didn’t find anything about the selective service and the executive branch, however, the SS page did indicate that there could be a problem with eligibility for federal scholarships if an individual had not registered prior to his 26th birthday. Wonder what type of scholarship O had?
#138

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:22 pm, latinconservative said:

Some people on here don’t think at all..Lgm don’t you get tired of being told you are an idiot and a loser..Totillera you a loser too…
#139

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, fulldroolcup said:

This is a non-issue!!!

The Constitution requires that to be eligible for POTUS must be a “natural born citizen”. If Barack was born in Hawaii, he is a citizen, as are all people born in Hawaii since 1900.

The current law Title 8 Section 1401 removes all the caveats about years of residency by the citizen parent after 14, or 16 years of age, of prior law, but it’s unclear if it’s applied retroactively.

In any case, unless someone can show that Obambi was actually born outside the US or its territories, that law doesn’t even apply! It covers people born OUTSIDE the US or its territories.

If Obama holds dual citizenship that’s not a Constitutional bar to becoming POTUS. However it would be political suicide not to renounce any second citizenship.

And if he decided to call himself Barack after his father, then….sooooo….what?

But of course I hope we defeat his scrawny leftist butt in November!
#140

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:46 pm, mistressjustice said:

/Sarc off.

Your sarcasm is noted, but in this instance you accidently swerved into the truth, as he makes clear in his book.

I tend to respond nonsensically to nonsense.(I know how this line will be treated knuckleheads).
Obama has always been upfront about his race, and racial background. I don’t understand why anyone would give two damns or one spit how he sees himself based on his journey and experiences. He has always talked about what it’s like to be mixed race in America. Who the hell cares if he indentifies with African-Americans, and who the hell is anyone to question him on it? If it makes you all more comfortable to call him bi-racial, or white go right ahead. He’s not being sneaky about his race or anything. Don’t you think he’d have an easier time in politics if he insisted on being called Barry, took his grandparent’s last name, called himself biracial, went to a safe predominantly white church, married a lighter woman, and gernerally acted like Wayne Brady. The guy has been 100% straightforward about his race, and his life experiences have shaped his self identity. You’re right it’s in his books. I urge you all to read his books, and they’re at you local library in case you’re afraid of putting money in the ~~black~~, ~~white~~, ~~bi-racial~~, whatever guy’s pockets.
#141

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, mistressjustice said:

#139
Precisely, exactly, I agree with everything except the last line.
#142

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, gayle said:

Banned …for what?

It might JUST be accurate.

Oh, that’s right.
Libs don’t believe in the anti Christ.
#143

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:59 pm, gayle said:

Mookie, you must have a crush on me.

You just cannot resist making comments regarding any of my posts.

Just ignore me if you can.
#144

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:03 pm, fulldroolcup said:

Sorry, but lengend3x is full of it. The Constitution demands a “natural born citizen”, not someone whose parents are both citizens.

The citation he makes to the number of years he claims Obama’s mom had to reside in the US after age 16 applies only to one citizen parent (the other parent being an alien) of a child born OUTSIDE the US or its territories.

Just think about it: a hundred years ago American women routinely gave birth at the age of 18. Would all their children be non-citizens, since they lived only two years in the US before giving birth?

Nonsense. The law applied to one (natural or naturalized) citizen parent’s residency INSIDE the US when the child was born OUTSIDE the US. And I repeat: people born in Hawaii have been treated as natural born citizens since 1900. (Title 8, Chap 12, Sec 1405).

Nichevo is dead right; legend3x is dead wrong.
#145

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:12 pm, Jim M. said:

OK, let’s start right here. Obama won’t release his birth certificate because he was ADOPTED!

His is actually the love child of Jimmy Carter and a now as of unnamed prominent African American woman. I had a friend who knew a guy who saw Michelle Obama leak the information on a tape that I understand Karl Rove has.

So, it’s not at all inaccurate to label Obama as the second coming of Carter. The nut does not fall far from the bush, or tree, or whatever peanuts grow on.
#146

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, Mookie said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 5:59 pm, gayle said:

Mookie, you must have a crush on me.

You just cannot resist making comments regarding any of my posts.

Just ignore me if you can.

Don’t flatter yourself. Idiots with a long history of racist remarks are not my type.
#147

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:26 pm, mistressjustice said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:12 pm, Jim M. said

I must give propers on this one Jim. That is very, very funny. Kudos and have a nice day.
#148

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:33 pm, gayle said:

Mookie, I don’t believe anti christ has ONE thing to do with racism.
Comprehension skills lacking?

Get a life will ya?

Who’s the idiot?
#149

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, dakine said:

fulldrool, nicely stated and spot on.

gayle, Mookie is referring your many other posts which clearly reveal you to be a bigot. Your post in this thread simply reveals you to be an unhinged religious nutjob. BTW, I’m far from a liberal.
#150

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:57 pm, Mookie said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 6:33 pm, gayle said:

Mookie, I don’t believe anti christ has ONE thing to do with racism.
Comprehension skills lacking?

Get a life will ya?

Who’s the idiot?

Given that I said “a long history of racist comments”, the idiot would be you.
#151

On June 10th, 2008 at 7:26 pm, gayle said:

Just love your name calling.

Guess that makes YOU a what????
#152

On June 10th, 2008 at 7:30 pm, dakine said:

Mookie, the good news is that gayle appears, at least, to be a self-aware bigot. However, I’m not sure she realizes she falls into the religious nutjob category. On that count, I think she simply feels self-righteous.
#153

On June 10th, 2008 at 8:06 pm, gayle said:

Religious?

Thank you.

Best compliment on this board.

I think many on this board would beg to differ with you. Nutjob?

I can say whatever I want to about Uhbama and illegals. If that is being racist in YOUR opinion, then you are extreme liberals. That is an insult btw.
#154

On June 10th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, starlightwoman said:

Let’s assume Clinton knows the truth about this little birth certificate snafu, and let’s assume he isn’t an American citizen. Why didn’t she use it?

Dont be surprised if she doesn’t. I think we will probably see a leak sometime in the future.

On June 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, lgm said:
So MM doesn’t want the debate to be on economics. She would lose that debate. She makes up a non issue — Obama’s passport.

If one’s eligibilty to be President is not important, then what is?
#155

On June 10th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, Bruce said:

Whatever is going on, be sure that SOMETHING IS going on and (1) Clinton Inc. is probably behind it and (2) regardless of Obama’s eligibility and birth certificate status doesn’t matter. Obama could campaign as the anti-Christ and tell the truth that he seeks to destroy the United States of America and STILL get elected.

P.S. I think Obama Hussein is STILL a Muslim and always will be. Start by one fact: He is NOT a Christian… so what then is he?
#156

On June 10th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, atheling said:

dakine:

Piss off, ass. So far, I have seen absolutely NOTHING of any value spew from your keyboard. You are simply a troll, and a stupid one, at that.

Like Rusty and other trolls here, you must be inhaling feces since you’re head is so firmly up your ass that you have s*** for brains.

Now go back under that rock where you came from, idiot.
#157

On June 10th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, DogBreath said:

He’ll release his birth certificate along with John Kerry’s DD Form 214and Bill Clinton’s medical records. The Weather Channel is also predicting a killing frost in Hell.
#158

On June 10th, 2008 at 11:02 pm, bird said:

Send_Me said:

In order to get a security clearance, for example, one must physically show a copy of their birth certificate or naturalization papers. How is it possible for someone to withhold a document such as this when its disclosure is required, by law, for the office to which he wishes to take? If he continues to withhold his birth records, then the Department of Justice really does need to look into this, as the law enforcing branch of the executive branch.
What does he have to risk here? Sure, if he’s not a citizen, then a lot. If he is a natural-born citizen, then what? Maybe a little embarrassment? Sorry for ya, but this is America: we have laws that must be enforced.

Very well put. I’m not finding it (at all) credible that the questionable Birth Certificate (Obama’s) isn’t being released due to possible “embarrassment” especially since the guy wants to be President of the United States. The only thing that could possibly “embarass” him is if he’s proven to have lied about where and when and/or to whom he was born. In which case, the nation better know that before the Election, ’cause, if not, and it’s found out after he possibly wins, he’s sure to be impeached and deservedly so (if not imprisoned, what with the intentional fraud that would be involved - being aware of the truth, refusing to make it known, intentionally landing public office on false pretenses, violating laws by will, etc.).

Now it is that we really DO need to see Obama’s B.C. and I don’t care who it may embarass when so. Is anyone really sure that he was even born IN Hawaii at all? (Or in the U.S. otherwise.)

To those who raised the issue of McCain’s birthplace…I was among those complaining about his violation of the “natural born” clause, until I read that military bases for active duty personnel represent “natural born” citizens as to their progeny born there, AND, to clarify this, Congress recently passed legislation affirming McCain’s U.S. citizenship as “natural born,” so that’s settled by law at this point.

Obama’s, however, is not settled, not unless a B.C. is released that proves his place of birth, etc.
#159

On June 10th, 2008 at 11:05 pm, bird said:

And, others are right here, too, and that is that IF Obama has a U.S. passport and security clearance/s, then he has to have presented a Birth Certificate inorder to obtain both. In which case, seems that he’d know where that B.C. was. If it’s “embarassing” to release it, then whattheheck is actually ON it that’s a problem? I mean, does not add-up, excuse-wise.
#160

On June 10th, 2008 at 11:18 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

While you’re chasing private papers, look for the divorce records of John McCain. It seems to have been nasty and does not reflect well on his “character”.

No thanks, and McCain’s character can be defined by his tenure in a POW camp while Barack was getting free passes for his darker skin color.
#161

On June 10th, 2008 at 11:20 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

So MM doesn’t want the debate to be on economics. She would lose that debate. She makes up a non issue — Obama’s passport.

Well, considering that TERRORISTS use passports, I’d say it’s an issue.

Mrs. Malkin would mop the floor with any liberal, including Alan Colmes, on economics.

You and your tech school education wouldn’t stand a chance, LGM.
#162

On June 10th, 2008 at 11:22 pm, bird said:

AlohaGuy said:

Here the State of Hawaii explains that records are protected by law (everything here is a secret),

An absurd perspective by the state of Hawaii, since Hawaii publishes (in big type) the Social Security number of every individual on their DRIVERS LICENSE.
#163

On June 11th, 2008 at 12:49 am, dakine said:

atheling, I figured you’d reveal your true colors eventually. Have a nice evening.
#164

On June 11th, 2008 at 12:59 am, Politicalguano said:

BO birth certificate must be hidden because it reveals one or more of the following: (1) Religion is listed as Islam; (2) father is listed as Reverend Wright; (3) race listed as mulatto; (4) reveals he is adopted and NOT an American citizen; (5) lists his citizenship as Kenyan; (6) lists an additional middle name - Mohammed.
#165

On June 11th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, KaosKlerik said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 9:21 am, lgm said:
While you’re chasing private papers, look for the divorce records of John McCain. It seems to have been nasty and does not reflect well on his “character”.

Figures.

A liberal Chicago paper got a judge to violate the rights of Obama’s opponent (Ryan) in a fishing expedition of a sealed divorce record, found a very personal request of a husband to his wife then made it public to destroy his reputation. The guy drops out to spare his daughter any further damage and we get Obama. 2 1/2 years later Obama is running for President and given the power of the liberal MSM could win it.

A liberal paper violated the Constitution to get a Marxist elected.

The WaPo runs every unsubstantiated negative comment “recollected” (25+ years later) by partisan liberals in an effort to paint George Allen as a racist and Allen loses by 7000 votes out of over 2 million. We get Jim Webb.

Two senators elected by liberal newspapers.

BTW lgm, birth records are supposed to be PUBLIC.
#166

On June 11th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, KaosKlerik said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 10:49 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

vickisoup said
Hey, Collin, I’m with you. I’m sure I am not the only one intrigued by Hillary’s use of the word, “suspended”, instead of, “ended”, in regard to her campaign. This thing ain’t over.

I would suspect she is waiting for Obama to stumble or visit Fort Marcy Park, come over for some raw tomatoes and undercooked chicken. Anything she can do to help

Maybe she’s hoping his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter, and he dies early, like many black men do, of heart disease.
#167

On June 11th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

On June 10th, 2008 at 9:21 am, lgm said:

While you’re chasing private papers, look for the divorce records of John McCain. It seems to have been nasty and does not reflect well on his “character”.

Maybe you should instant message Judge Robert A. Schnider and demand that John McCain’s divorce papers be unsealed so we can all read every false allegation that his ex-wife fabricated the way Jeri Ryan did?

How is an official US document like a birth certificate ‘private’ information anyway? It’s preserved on record by the government and, if it was truly private, then the government would not be allowed to ask you to produce it without a court order. Ever get a passport? Apply for a government job? pfft
#168

On June 11th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

I forgot ALL about John F’n Kerry’s divorce! I think the outcry to unseal his divorce papers per the above ‘precedent’ predates lgm’s request of McCain by about … hmm? … let’s see? … that would be about … 4 years.

Hey lgm - BWAAAAHAHAHA!
#169

On June 12th, 2008 at 11:30 am, Angry Kneegrow said:

Consider this myth debunked.

Birth Certificate

Discussion

KTHXBYE!
#170

On October 29th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, tiredofit08 said:

Michelle…have you heard about this one??

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/70801

BREAKING!!–Lawsuits in 9 states – OH,HI,WA,CA,FL,GA.PA,NY & CT REQUIRE OBAMA TO SHOW BIRTH CERT OR BE REMOVED

Posted October 28th, 2008 by Jdayh OR BE REMOVED FROM ALL BALLOTS!!
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LAWSUITS ARE BEING FILED IN EIGHT(9) US STATES TO REQUIRE OBAMA TO PROVIDE CERTIFICATION OF BIRTH IN THE US OR
BE REMOVED AS THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ON US BALLOTS
Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections;
EDIT — NOW 9 STATES ARE SUING SEE UPDATED LINK FOR OHIO!!
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Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertify of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. Citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.
Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.
A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.