The buzz about Barack’s birth certificate
Jim Geraghty takes a look at longstanding blog buzz over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which the campaign refused to release to the St. Petersburg Times in April:
We tried to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but his campaign would not release it and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.
Has anyone seen it? Why shouldn’t the record be in the public domain for presidential candidates?
Geraghty walks through various rumors now circulating in the wake of the Obama campaign’s birth certificate blackout, including this one:
Rumor Three: His mother did not want to name him after his father, and his birth certificate says “Barry.” Perhaps the most plausible of the rumors, as Obama was known by that name through much of his childhood and young adulthood. If true, this would spur a new round of “When Barry Became Barack” stories – a minor headache for the campaign, but hardly a major scandal.
Lest the Obama campaign start whining about this issue being an unfair “distraction,” John McCain underwent intense scrutiny of his citizenship status because of his birth in the Panama Canal zone, leading the Senate to declare him a natural-born citizen in April.
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Of course this might take care of the immorality in NY. They will behead all those nasty women. sarcasm off.
Call me a nit-picker, but Obama is not the first black POTUS candidate. He may be the first mulatto POTUS candidate, or if “mulatto” is politically incorrect…perhaps the first “mélangée” POTUS candidate. The “first black POTUS candidate” is simply illogical. Hey, half of my caucasian genome infects his genome. Give me a break!!!
Traveling as a Senator, would he NEED a passport. I am sure he did not fly commercial.
Although my birth certificate (from HI) is from 1972, it does not show religion on it. Other than basic birth info and parent’s names, it shows parents race. I think in the case of BHO that’s a given and not anything that is being questioned. My father couldn’t even walk in and get a copy of my birth certificate in Hawaii without a notarized statement from me.
Even if BHO’s birth certificate has some guy listed as “Chuck” under father the left will brush that off.
1. We’ll never know, because he’ll never release it. And hey, that’s ok because the left will say it’s none of our business. And 2. Even if he did, no matter what we see on it the Messiah could do no wrong because he will save us all from the evil Republicans.
Gag….The most ethical congress evahhhhh
Not so. A child of American citizens (or of one American citizen), can be born anywhere in the world and be a US citizen, so long as the acknowledged parent(s) are American. That child just cannot run for POTUS.
He must release his BC as requirements for his office….
You are not alone. And it is not simply because he has Muslim roots, it is because he spent his formative years in a culturally foreign land. He went to school in Indonesia, and never had to say the Pledge of Allegiance all that time. He was never raised with any sense of civic duty and love for America. Indeed, his mother hated America, and anyone who thinks that this has not influenced him (even subconsciously) is a self deceptive fool.
Yes, we know that he refused to wear the flag pin. And yes, we all saw that photo of him with his hands folded in front of him during the national anthem while Hillary and Bill Richardson held their hands over their hearts. No matter how much the left will spin and lie about it, the fact remains that Barack Obama is NOT one of us!
And his choice of associates reflect that truth: William Ayers, Wright, et al… are all America-hating radicals who seek to overthrow and bring this country to its knees because of their racism, anger, venality and hostility to Western civilization.
Barack Obama is NOT an American. Whether his birth certificate says he is or not, the fact remains that he is culturally foreign to America.
The big political news today is that Obama and McCain are discussing economic policy — taxes, spending, that kind of thing.
McCain’s platform makes no sense. He’s going to cut taxes even more and still balance the budget by cutting “pork”. The problem with this is that although there is lots of pork, there is not that much.
So MM doesn’t want the debate to be on economics. She would lose that debate. She makes up a non issue — Obama’s passport.
I volunteeer to go looking for his birth certificate. I’ll try and bring a copy out stuffed up my pants leg.
One of the reasons candidates release documents is to avoid the type of creeping suspicion that can have a negative impact on their run.
Obama is not exactly pure on the toic of releasing confidential documents. His Republican opponent in the Senate race was forced to drop out when dcuments were released by a California court on his divorce proceedings. The pressure to release those sealed divorce proceedings came from the press, and it appears that David Axelrod was a prime mover behing the scenes in forcing that disclosure.
This is not some dirty record of divorce, were outrageous accusations are par for the course since there is no family court that has ever sanctioned a party for making false statements in a pleading.
A birth certificate. Not much information there except, well, details of one’s birth. Having already released his wife’s Princeton Thesis, which seems to be more remote an issue, why get so protective of some generic document that provides little detail to begin with?
It only fules speculation as to the reasons why, and frankly can do no good for the candidate himself (unless it is a distraction they want out there to mask other issues that may be bubbling to the surface).
In the late 50′s and early 60′s, it was relatively scandalous for a teenager to become pregnant out of wedlock. It was not unusual for the young lady to leave town to deal with her pregnancy to avoid public humiliation to both her and her family. Was Obama even born in Hawaii?
It seems riduculous that he is not willing to produce a record that has a direct impact on his Constitutional qualifications for Presidential office. Especially when the document in question is a requirement for everything from Passports, to Social Security cards to drivers licenses.
And he knows darn well that his refusal to do so will lead to rampant speculation – in essence he is knowingly creating a controversey that he will try to deem as irrelevant.
Here the State of Hawaii explains that records are protected by law (everything here is a secret), but note – “Certified copies of these records may be issued to authorized individuals and used for such diverse purposes as school entry, passports, Social Security participation, driver’s licenses, employment, sports participation, survivor’s benefits, proof of property rights, and other needs.” I highlighted “employment”. He wants to be President – don’t we the people have a right to see this? Lawsuit anyone?
Lgm -
Your village called. They want their idiot back.
Mrs. Malkin did not “make up” this issue – she’s reporting on it. Why is it her job to “debate” issues anyway? She speaks HER mind, on HER blog, and you have the nerve to insinuate that she’s afraid to debate, because she hasn’t yet blogged about your issue of choice? Are you right in the head?
Get a life.
Michelle would wipe the floor with you on any subject you would choose to debate her on. She is living it in the DC area and writing blogs and books on the subject while you are plucking pink boa feathers from you dress in CA. BTW, she did not “make up” a non issue. Your personal attacks on Michelle aside, you are still an idiot.
AlohaGuy – You make an excellent point. As his possible employers through election (ugh) we have legal right to inspect his birth certificate in regards to his eligibility for the position of POTUS. I could really care less what religion, if any, is listed on there. I just want to know that this man who spent a good chunk of his life in foreign lands is legally able to hold office. Where are the conservative groups hiring lawyers to release the birth certificate?
I’ve seen it mentioned several times about Barack Hussein Obama’s DUAL CITIZENSHIP, and have asked myself can he be a citizen of two different countrys and still be eligible to be POTUS? I’m glad this “non-issue” has surfaced. You have to be brain dead, if you think someone running for the highest office in the world might not be a citizen. Maybe this is the miricale I’ve been praying for!!!
Thanks Michelle I was wondering why everyone has been calling him Barry. Now I don’t even have to ask.
Barry?!
Never met an African American named Barry before.
So if Obama becoming president, will make him the first (illegal) Naturalized Citizen President, doesn’t that open the door for Arnold the Terminator to run?
He says he is black, not me. Since he says he is black then she can NOT be his mother since she is white. This is just simple logic, and genetics.
and most of the people over at CAIR.
Here’s an idea. Start your own blog, and post anything you want. Then if anybody actually reads it, you can debate whatever subject pleases you to your heart’s content.
The problem is you don’t understand econ 101. Reduce taxes = strong economy = increase in gov revenue. If you don’t believe it just look at history. You say you didn’t do to good in hist 101 either?
Seems like the most plausible thing I’ve heard yet.
When I joined the United States Navy I needed to show a copy of my birth certificate. Shouldn’t the person applying to be the Commander-in-Chief be required to do the same?
My daughter was born to two American parents in a military hospital in Germany in 1954. She held dual citizenship until age 21 when she had to actively choose a country. She chose American.
Actually, lgm’s village is auctioning him off on eBay, without reserve.
Item 58989603956
Only five minutes left, and…no bids!!!
Oh yes, you are correct. Since he does consider himself to be African-American, we should ignore him when he says that he’s mixed race. We should ignore the fact that he says he’s born to a white mother and a Kenyan father. But, how dare Warren G. Harding call himself white? I guess I see where you’re going, since it is indeed impossible for Obama to have a white mother. Let’s go find the real black woman who gave birth to his black ass. By decoding this mystery Mr. P., you may have saved the election for the republican party. Obama’s not mixed race at all….he’s Black, and that woman from Kansas is NOT his mother. But is he black? Obviously, a person doesn’t have a right to define themselves any way they wish. Damn Obama, and Halle Berry along with him. Clearly Obama wasn’t treated like a black person growing up by his peers and communities, and he knows NOTHING about what it means to be black in America.
And now I know why Obama hasn’t released his birth certificate. It’s crystal clear. Damn that Barack Obama…if that is his real name
Mother = Donkey
Father = Satan
End of discussion.
On June 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, lgm said:
B. Hussein Obama would be a complete disaster for the US economy!
He has no economic experience of any tangible sort whatsoever: he’s never run a business; he’s never held a position of consequence in the private sector; he’s never been responsible for meeting the budgetary controls of a for-profit organization – making a payroll, maintaining a balance sheet or, for that matter, even balancing a checkbook (probably not even his own) – and just look at the bucket load of spending proposals he’s busily touting, replete with bailouts and handouts for everyone!
How are we to pay for all those freebies?!
What B.HO apparently fails to understand is the more he spends, the deeper into debt he places our nation, which has the disastrous result of moving the U.S. credit rating down from AAA to “high risk,” debtor-nation status.
Reducing our nation’s credit rating from high to low would make it next to impossible for the fed government to acquire funds/ready cash from its primary source – the sale of US bonds and Notes to foreign investors – who, like all smart bankers, are extremely reluctant to lend/invest money in high risk loans.
So while John McCain may not have all the economic experience one would hope for in a presidential candidate, we know he will not prove to be economic disaster like B. Hussein Obama.
gayle, you should be banned for that last comment. Absolutely reprehensible.
atheling, quite an accomplishment given the vacuous nature of most of your posts, but that last one is your most inane and ridiculous comment yet.
This blog post and the corresponding comments demonstrates why the fringe right and the fringe left are pretty much the same…unhinged. It’s entertaining though.
Your sarcasm is noted, but in this instance you accidently swerved into the truth, as he makes clear in his book.
Gayle = Dumbass
legendx3 #19, thanks for your analysis. I did some google research and came up with 312,000 links regarding Obie’s birth but none that I looked at came near as informative as your post. A gold star for the day is not enough.
Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
Bingo, ED.
It does seem kind of unfair that the Dems hide medical and now birth certificate records when the other side does not….
I still recall the inane demands for Reagan’s medical records when he was President-and when Bill Clinton did a lot to hide his (like firing the White House physician of more than several administrations) the minute he took office….
Wow; now if you had made a comment along the lines of Bush=monkey, no one would have anything to say…well, the resident trolls wouldn’t have anything to say.
Comment on American Thinker:
“Did Obama ever register with the Selective Service? No one may serve in the Executive Branch of govt. if they never registered. If the Dem party and election commissions are using Wikipedia and Google to ‘vet’ him, this will never be disclosed. The Reps should be looking in to this, as well as anyone able to do so.
Posted by: arrowsmith1 | June 10, 2008 05:42 AM”
I did a bit of a search, and didn’t find anything about the selective service and the executive branch, however, the SS page did indicate that there could be a problem with eligibility for federal scholarships if an individual had not registered prior to his 26th birthday. Wonder what type of scholarship O had?
Some people on here don’t think at all..Lgm don’t you get tired of being told you are an idiot and a loser..Totillera you a loser too…
This is a non-issue!!!
The Constitution requires that to be eligible for POTUS must be a “natural born citizen”. If Barack was born in Hawaii, he is a citizen, as are all people born in Hawaii since 1900.
The current law Title 8 Section 1401 removes all the caveats about years of residency by the citizen parent after 14, or 16 years of age, of prior law, but it’s unclear if it’s applied retroactively.
In any case, unless someone can show that Obambi was actually born outside the US or its territories, that law doesn’t even apply! It covers people born OUTSIDE the US or its territories.
If Obama holds dual citizenship that’s not a Constitutional bar to becoming POTUS. However it would be political suicide not to renounce any second citizenship.
And if he decided to call himself Barack after his father, then….sooooo….what?
But of course I hope we defeat his scrawny leftist butt in November!
/Sarc off.
I tend to respond nonsensically to nonsense.(I know how this line will be treated knuckleheads).
Obama has always been upfront about his race, and racial background. I don’t understand why anyone would give two damns or one spit how he sees himself based on his journey and experiences. He has always talked about what it’s like to be mixed race in America. Who the hell cares if he indentifies with African-Americans, and who the hell is anyone to question him on it? If it makes you all more comfortable to call him bi-racial, or white go right ahead. He’s not being sneaky about his race or anything. Don’t you think he’d have an easier time in politics if he insisted on being called Barry, took his grandparent’s last name, called himself biracial, went to a safe predominantly white church, married a lighter woman, and gernerally acted like Wayne Brady. The guy has been 100% straightforward about his race, and his life experiences have shaped his self identity. You’re right it’s in his books. I urge you all to read his books, and they’re at you local library in case you’re afraid of putting money in the
black,white,bi-racial, whatever guy’s pockets.#139
Precisely, exactly, I agree with everything except the last line.
Banned …for what?
It might JUST be accurate.
Oh, that’s right.
Libs don’t believe in the anti Christ.
Mookie, you must have a crush on me.
You just cannot resist making comments regarding any of my posts.
Just ignore me if you can.
Sorry, but lengend3x is full of it. The Constitution demands a “natural born citizen”, not someone whose parents are both citizens.
The citation he makes to the number of years he claims Obama’s mom had to reside in the US after age 16 applies only to one citizen parent (the other parent being an alien) of a child born OUTSIDE the US or its territories.
Just think about it: a hundred years ago American women routinely gave birth at the age of 18. Would all their children be non-citizens, since they lived only two years in the US before giving birth?
Nonsense. The law applied to one (natural or naturalized) citizen parent’s residency INSIDE the US when the child was born OUTSIDE the US. And I repeat: people born in Hawaii have been treated as natural born citizens since 1900. (Title 8, Chap 12, Sec 1405).
Nichevo is dead right; legend3x is dead wrong.
OK, let’s start right here. Obama won’t release his birth certificate because he was ADOPTED!
His is actually the love child of Jimmy Carter and a now as of unnamed prominent African American woman. I had a friend who knew a guy who saw Michelle Obama leak the information on a tape that I understand Karl Rove has.
So, it’s not at all inaccurate to label Obama as the second coming of Carter. The nut does not fall far from the bush, or tree, or whatever peanuts grow on.
Don’t flatter yourself. Idiots with a long history of racist remarks are not my type.
I must give propers on this one Jim. That is very, very funny. Kudos and have a nice day.
Mookie, I don’t believe anti christ has ONE thing to do with racism.
Comprehension skills lacking?
Get a life will ya?
Who’s the idiot?
fulldrool, nicely stated and spot on.
gayle, Mookie is referring your many other posts which clearly reveal you to be a bigot. Your post in this thread simply reveals you to be an unhinged religious nutjob. BTW, I’m far from a liberal.
Given that I said “a long history of racist comments”, the idiot would be you.
Just love your name calling.
Guess that makes YOU a what????
Mookie, the good news is that gayle appears, at least, to be a self-aware bigot. However, I’m not sure she realizes she falls into the religious nutjob category. On that count, I think she simply feels self-righteous.
Religious?
Thank you.
Best compliment on this board.
I think many on this board would beg to differ with you. Nutjob?
I can say whatever I want to about Uhbama and illegals. If that is being racist in YOUR opinion, then you are extreme liberals. That is an insult btw.
Dont be surprised if she doesn’t. I think we will probably see a leak sometime in the future.
If one’s eligibilty to be President is not important, then what is?
Whatever is going on, be sure that SOMETHING IS going on and (1) Clinton Inc. is probably behind it and (2) regardless of Obama’s eligibility and birth certificate status doesn’t matter. Obama could campaign as the anti-Christ and tell the truth that he seeks to destroy the United States of America and STILL get elected.
P.S. I think Obama Hussein is STILL a Muslim and always will be. Start by one fact: He is NOT a Christian… so what then is he?
dakine:
Piss off, ass. So far, I have seen absolutely NOTHING of any value spew from your keyboard. You are simply a troll, and a stupid one, at that.
Like Rusty and other trolls here, you must be inhaling feces since you’re head is so firmly up your ass that you have s*** for brains.
Now go back under that rock where you came from, idiot.
He’ll release his birth certificate along with John Kerry’s DD Form 214and Bill Clinton’s medical records. The Weather Channel is also predicting a killing frost in Hell.
Very well put. I’m not finding it (at all) credible that the questionable Birth Certificate (Obama’s) isn’t being released due to possible “embarrassment” especially since the guy wants to be President of the United States. The only thing that could possibly “embarass” him is if he’s proven to have lied about where and when and/or to whom he was born. In which case, the nation better know that before the Election, ’cause, if not, and it’s found out after he possibly wins, he’s sure to be impeached and deservedly so (if not imprisoned, what with the intentional fraud that would be involved – being aware of the truth, refusing to make it known, intentionally landing public office on false pretenses, violating laws by will, etc.).
Now it is that we really DO need to see Obama’s B.C. and I don’t care who it may embarass when so. Is anyone really sure that he was even born IN Hawaii at all? (Or in the U.S. otherwise.)
To those who raised the issue of McCain’s birthplace…I was among those complaining about his violation of the “natural born” clause, until I read that military bases for active duty personnel represent “natural born” citizens as to their progeny born there, AND, to clarify this, Congress recently passed legislation affirming McCain’s U.S. citizenship as “natural born,” so that’s settled by law at this point.
Obama’s, however, is not settled, not unless a B.C. is released that proves his place of birth, etc.
And, others are right here, too, and that is that IF Obama has a U.S. passport and security clearance/s, then he has to have presented a Birth Certificate inorder to obtain both. In which case, seems that he’d know where that B.C. was. If it’s “embarassing” to release it, then whattheheck is actually ON it that’s a problem? I mean, does not add-up, excuse-wise.
No thanks, and McCain’s character can be defined by his tenure in a POW camp while Barack was getting free passes for his darker skin color.
Well, considering that TERRORISTS use passports, I’d say it’s an issue.
Mrs. Malkin would mop the floor with any liberal, including Alan Colmes, on economics.
You and your tech school education wouldn’t stand a chance, LGM.
An absurd perspective by the state of Hawaii, since Hawaii publishes (in big type) the Social Security number of every individual on their DRIVERS LICENSE.
atheling, I figured you’d reveal your true colors eventually. Have a nice evening.
BO birth certificate must be hidden because it reveals one or more of the following: (1) Religion is listed as Islam; (2) father is listed as Reverend Wright; (3) race listed as mulatto; (4) reveals he is adopted and NOT an American citizen; (5) lists his citizenship as Kenyan; (6) lists an additional middle name – Mohammed.
Figures.
A liberal Chicago paper got a judge to violate the rights of Obama’s opponent (Ryan) in a fishing expedition of a sealed divorce record, found a very personal request of a husband to his wife then made it public to destroy his reputation. The guy drops out to spare his daughter any further damage and we get Obama. 2 1/2 years later Obama is running for President and given the power of the liberal MSM could win it.
A liberal paper violated the Constitution to get a Marxist elected.
The WaPo runs every unsubstantiated negative comment “recollected” (25+ years later) by partisan liberals in an effort to paint George Allen as a racist and Allen loses by 7000 votes out of over 2 million. We get Jim Webb.
Two senators elected by liberal newspapers.
BTW lgm, birth records are supposed to be PUBLIC.
Maybe she’s hoping his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter, and he dies early, like many black men do, of heart disease.
Maybe you should instant message Judge Robert A. Schnider and demand that John McCain’s divorce papers be unsealed so we can all read every false allegation that his ex-wife fabricated the way Jeri Ryan did?
How is an official US document like a birth certificate ‘private’ information anyway? It’s preserved on record by the government and, if it was truly private, then the government would not be allowed to ask you to produce it without a court order. Ever get a passport? Apply for a government job? pfft
I forgot ALL about John F’n Kerry’s divorce! I think the outcry to unseal his divorce papers per the above ‘precedent’ predates lgm’s request of McCain by about … hmm? … let’s see? … that would be about … 4 years.
Hey lgm – BWAAAAHAHAHA!
Consider this myth debunked.
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Michelle…have you heard about this one??
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/70801
BREAKING!!–Lawsuits in 9 states – OH,HI,WA,CA,FL,GA.PA,NY & CT REQUIRE OBAMA TO SHOW BIRTH CERT OR BE REMOVED
Posted October 28th, 2008 by Jdayh OR BE REMOVED FROM ALL BALLOTS!!
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LAWSUITS ARE BEING FILED IN EIGHT(9) US STATES TO REQUIRE OBAMA TO PROVIDE CERTIFICATION OF BIRTH IN THE US OR
BE REMOVED AS THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ON US BALLOTS
Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections;
EDIT — NOW 9 STATES ARE SUING SEE UPDATED LINK FOR OHIO!!
http://www.daytondailynew...
Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertify of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. Citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.
Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.
A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.