Video of the day: Obama spins the definition of “work,” attempts to weasel out of vetter controversy

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 10, 2008 12:14 PM

The video– “uh, um, I mean”–speaks for itself, but go here for all the background:

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  1. #1
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, aunursa said:

    Why do you keep bringing up these, um, uh, tangential issues? How does this help Michelle Obama’s kids? Why are you against hope and change?

  2. #2
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, William Amos said:

    Heh The buck stops when the chickens come home to roost ?

  3. #3
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, wighttrasch said:

    I have never understood why anyone has ever thought he was a good speaker. I find nothing redeeming in his ‘rhetoric’ at all.

  4. #4
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, ajmontana said:

    He’s a joke and his “followers” idiots.

  5. #5
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Lan Astaslem said:

    I saw this on TV this morning, and all I could think was “Good God! If he doesn’t have cue cards, he’s a mumbling idiot!!” This man has no clue how to field questions that require him to actually think.

    But as aunursa already said, this doesn’t help MO’s children — so we’ll never see this mentioned anywhere in the MSM. (Unless it’s to throw it back as a “distraction.”)

  6. #6
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    “These aren’t folks who are working for me. They’re not people I have assigned to a particular job in a future administration”

    Soap’s translation:

    “I sure hope you folks will buy into my BS as I can sure fling plenty of it.”

  7. #7
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, William Amos said:

    Barack Obama “I HOPE I can CHANGE the subject and you can BELIEVE in that !”

  8. #8
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, wighttrasch said:

    He thinks, like the NoI guys, if he uses words like ‘tangentially’ he can assume an academic air.

  9. #9
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, atheling said:

    He really is a poor speaker when it’s not rehearsed and cued… it’s almost painful to watch.

    Obama is all flash, no substance.

  10. #10
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, RobM1981 said:

    “These are not the Vetters I knew when I first met them 10 months ago.”

    Or, rather:

    “These, ahhhhh… are not, uhmmm… the, ummm, veterans - I mean VETTERS - I, uh, know - errr KNEW - when I first, uh, met them 10 years - MONTHS - uhhmmm… ago.”

    I say again: it’s hard to believe that we will look back at Dubya and see not only “effective leadership” but “intelligence.”

    It takes some doing to pick candidates this ignorant AND un-intelligent, but the USA appears up to the task…

  11. #11
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Screw the vetting of the vetterers, I just want someone to vet this commie-pinko, American hating, marxist, tax and spend, amnesty shilling, bloviating, mouth breeder. Lemme see your birth certificate, you illegal alien, before you become POTUS.
    Other than that, I have no strong feelings.

  12. #12
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, latinconservative said:

    Just like everyone says except for the Obamabot zombies he is an empty suit period..

  13. #13
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, aunursa said:

    Ironically, Obama would show more leadership if he acknowledged that it was a valid point.

    The left rants on and on about Bush supposedly not being able to admit a mistake. But I have yet to hear the presumptive Democratic nominee acknowledge a mistake. And so far he’s made several.

    When I make a mistake — especially in my job — I take responsibility for it. Why can’t politicians? Who is the Harry Truman of today?

  14. #14
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, John Ansell said:

    Typical politician.

  15. #15
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, DJM said:

    Obama constantly misspeaks…

    Does anyone else find it particularly perturbing that the potential, future President of the United States - a man who will be negotiating & bargaining with world leaders on behalf of America - is so incredibly inarticulate? Will every important meeting that affects the future of America be extended to the following day so Obama can ‘correct’ himself and tell antagonistic leaders what he really meant?

    It’s scary to know we may face hardships in America because Obama is an incompetent impromptu speaker.

    And the left has the audacity to mock Bush for mispronouncing words…

  16. #16
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, localmalcontent said:

    Wow. What gibberish, out of his mouth.

    It just occurs to me, that if he is elected POTUS, the most powerful person in the world will be some unelected dialogue coach. Or Michelle O.

  17. #17
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:39 pm, cicerokid said:

    I was thinking exactly the same thing, soap box, as i listened to the clip! “These are people that don’t work for me”. Who in #$%& do they work for?!! What a uhm, uhm speaker!

  18. #18
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, Wethal said:

    Hard to throw someone under the bus when the wheels might be coming off it.

  19. #19
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, Bucklee said:

    Wait, if they have assignments how is it that they don’t work for him? Because they don’t get a pay check? After all of the money that Jim Johnson purloined from the national treasury I don’t think he really needs to get paid.

    This guy is a bumbling idiot, it makes McCain’s idea of town hall meetings look smarter everyday.

  20. #20
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, DesertLover said:

    tan·gen·tial (tn-jnshl)
    also tan·gen·tal (-jntl)

    Adj.

    1. Of, relating to, or moving along or in the direction of a tangent.

    2. Merely touching or slightly connected.

    3. Only superficially relevant; divergent

    Adv.

    1. tangentially - in passing; “touched on it tangentially”

    OK … from this I take it that BO went off on a tangent and said that, relating to the people on his VP committee, they are only slightly connected with his campaign and that their tasks are only superficially relevant as they move along in a divergent manner while merely touching on anything of importance …

    huh??? … :roll:

  21. #21
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, tarpon said:

    Comrade Obama proves, the Democrats chose poorly.

  22. #22
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, Jaded said:

    The man is a mental midget!

  23. #23
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, JT said:

    I feel dumber for having watched that. The man is a moron. Where’s the MSM. Bush is a great speaker compared to Barack “ah… er… um… I mean… they work for me, but they don’t work for me” Obama

  24. #24
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, JT said:

    I mean every week we have this guy talking out his butt. A new you tube clip almost every day. At this rate the google servers are going to need a lot more gigs of storage for you tube.

    I can see google’s next quarterly report. Earning down 20% because we have buy more servers every time Obama opens his mouth.

  25. #25
    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    How dare you blaspheme the Secular Messiah! ;)

    On the bright side, most of the comments over at the background article aren’t really favorable for Obama (they’re not wild about McCain, either, mind you)…

    The more he talks, the more likely it is he’ll snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  26. #26
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, BOB said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    Screw the vetting of the vetterers, I just want someone to vet this commie-pinko, American hating, marxist, tax and spend, amnesty shilling, bloviating, mouth breeder. Lemme see your birth certificate, you illegal alien, before you become POTUS.
    Other than that, I have no strong feelings.

    I was going to post on this, but I’ll just second Rogue’s post.

  27. #27
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    OT

    No secret, big RV looking command vehicle, SUVs, cops with ‘Federal Protective Service’ arm patches, some in black with heavy vests.

    Federal Protective Service/ICE police

    If they are here to bust all the illegals in the food court, I’ll have to start brown bagging my lunch again. Or maybe Bill Clinton is getting a quickie over at the Westin.

  28. #28
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, txvet2 said:

    Rush and Hannity were playing clips yesterday. I swear it sounded as if he was using an earpiece and was having trouble with reception.

  29. #29
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, vickisoup said:

    Babbling, bumbling…he’s like a bad SNL character. I have never seen his appeal.

  30. #30
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, swmbo said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    Screw the vetting of the vetterers, I just want someone to vet this commie-pinko, American hating, marxist, tax and spend, amnesty shilling, bloviating, mouth breeder. Lemme see your birth certificate, you illegal alien, before you become POTUS.
    Other than that, I have no strong feelings.

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, BOB said:
    I was going to post on this, but I’ll just second Rogue’s post.

    I’ll just second Bob on this one also.

  31. #31
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:32 pm, tbear44 said:

    Atheling you beat me to it. That was just downright painful to watch. I almost didn’t make it throught the 1:21

  32. #32
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:

    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

  33. #33
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, cpodug said:

    Regardless of whatever else he is, has, has been or does, he does have the advanced degree necessary to become a successful politician, a PHD:

    BS - bullslinger
    MS - Master Slinger
    PHD - Piles it Higher and Deeper

  34. #34
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, J S Ragman said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, atheling said:

    Obama is all flash, no substance.

    Yep. All hat and no cattle.

  35. #35
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, txvet2 said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:

    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    You mean he should start lying about the economy the way your hero Bubba the Liar did?

  36. #36
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, J S Ragman said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:
    Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    You may be onto something here, lgm, in a tangential kind of way. I hope those guys on BHOs VP search party aren’t getting paid if the best they can come up with are Caroline Kennedy and James Webb.

  37. #37
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Where is Ted Kennedy we need some errahs :lol:

  38. #38
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, Mrs. Happy Housewife said:

    And liberals make fun of the President? Pot, meet kettle. Oh, wait, is that racist? Sorry, I can’t keep track anymore.

  39. #39
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, Bucklee said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:
    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer

    Actually lgm, why not talk about how Mr. Johnson’s role at Freddie Mac? When you take on the kind of role that Mr. Johnson has taken on you are more than a mere volunteer, you are a trusted advisor. I am wondering how many times did you invoke Ken Lay’s name when you ranted to your friends about President Bush? Lay’s deception was chicken feed compared to Johnson’s.

  40. #40
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    A converstion between Barrack Obama and Ted Kennedy.

    Barrack: Oh, ummm, mmmm, uh, mmm.

    Ted Kennedy: Errah, ah Errrah,a oh.

    Hey, I wonder if he took Teds class on public speaking 101. :lol:

  41. #41
    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, JT said:

    Borrowing from JS… lgm you are all hat and no cattle. And nyk is all cattle and no hat.

  42. #42
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, chris3cube said:

    And lo, thou Obamessiah read from ye local phonebook (E thru H)… and it was good, nay, amazing.
    (the Restraining Order says I can still go to His events and chant, I just have to stay 500yards away.)

  43. #43
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, Blind_Mule said:
  44. #44
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, SparkyMcMuffin said:

    The shame of this clip is that the MSM won’t ever see it, nevermind have to deal with it. It was aired on Fox News. That instantly means it was mean-spirited, character assassination by a bunch of GOP fan boys. Thus the followers of the Holy Obama won’t ever have to face the fact that he is actually inarticulate. If anything this makes him human, but that is obviously an unpopular suggestion of a heretical nature. /sarcasm

  45. #45
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    chris3cube said:
    And lo, thou Obamessiah read from ye local phonebook (E thru H)… and it was good, nay, amazing.
    (the Restraining Order says I can still go to His events and chant, I just have to stay 500yards away.)

    LMAOROF :grin: :smile: :lol:

  46. #46
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    Bucklee said: “Actually lgm, why not talk about how Mr. Johnson’s role at Freddie Mac? When you take on the kind of role that Mr. Johnson has taken on you are more than a mere volunteer, you are a trusted advisor.”

    Well, Bucklee, OBambi has now explained. He says that such criticism is “just another of the games played in Washington.” Move on, folks, nothing to see here. Hope, hope, change, change.

    Now if he had spelled potato with an “e” or nuclear with another “u”, we’d have something to talk about!!

  47. #47
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, William Amos said:
  48. #48
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Regulus said:

    Obama reminds me more and more of an episode from Gilligan’s Island (dating myself, I know, I know) in which Gilligan dreams he’s the ruler of some banana republic who depends on his chief adviser for everything; at one point he’s giving a speech to a crowd and is spluttering:

    [Gilligan] “My people, I promise you uh, um….”

    [Adviser] (Whispering into Gilligan’s ear): “This, that, and the other thing.”

    [Gilligan] (Forcefully): “This, that, and the other thing!”

    Watching the Potemkin Candidate fumble, bumble and stumble in the debates is going to be delightful. Hey, donkeys: Buyers’ remorse, here we come!

  49. #49
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, Klaatu said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Screw the vetting of the vetterers, I just want someone to vet this commie-pinko, American hating, marxist, tax and spend, amnesty shilling, bloviating, mouth breeder. Lemme see your birth certificate, you illegal alien, before you become POTUS.
    Other than that, I have no strong feelings.

    I agree with all of this except breeder=breather. Unless.. I’m missing something…..

    It wouldn’t be the first time I’m behind the curve.

  50. #50
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, DaveC said:

    give Barry a break.. I mean it looks like he was forced to work without a teleprompter.. This is the kind of change he wants to bring.. a teleprompter for him and scripted news conferences..

  51. #51
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, brianod1 said:

    I’m definitely not an Obama supporter, but here was nothing wrong with his answer or performance in the clip shown. Please get a grip. His policies are bad enough without wildly grasping at straws to denigrate him.

  52. #52
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, tmitsss said:

    It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is

    It depends on what meaning of “work” works.

  53. #53
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, davenp35 said:

    Obama is such a BS artist!

  54. #54
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:
    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    Don’t like the subject matter?

    DLTDHYITAOTWO

    Feel free never to return - please.

  55. #55
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, ptg said:

    To J S Ragman and atheling:
    Obama is All halo and no Jesus.

  56. #56
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, anglee99 said:

    I’m sorry, but did the Barry say the “volunteers” were only gathering information for him, that he’d then excercise his own judgement in selecting a VP candidate? And with a straight face, no less.

  57. #57
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:28 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    lgm said:

    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    We won’t know how the economy is doing till the second week in July when a bulk of second quarter reports come in.
    If the reports come back as negative growth then we won’t know if we’re in a true recession till the second week in October and that’s contingent upon a second quarter of negative growth. The Dems have a long way to go to truly play that card. Hate to burst your bubble (pun intended).

  58. #58
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:28 pm, right_on said:

    …unpaid volunteer positions…giving him information; vetted information

    You can bet that Jim Johnson is doing ALL the work himself, investigating the potential running mates, right? Just like some volunteer vetted Jerry Wright, and Father Wanna-be Black?

    My take? You get what you pay for…or in this case, caveat emptor!

  59. #59
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, madchef said:

    He sounds like Gabby Johnson in Blazing Saddles.

  60. #60
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:
    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    Trying taking a shower. You have bitter liberal all over you.

  61. #61
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, sambo said:

    Goldwater Knight said:
    If the reports come back as negative growth then we won’t know if we’re in a true recession till the second week in October and that’s contingent upon a second quarter of negative growth. The Dems have a long way to go to truly play that card.

    They have been playing that card for a while now and the MSM has helped them sell it. hook line and sinker.

  62. #62
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, rambler said:

    Is this the way he’ll sound when talking to the wacky dictators of the world?

  63. #63
    On June 10th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, wighttrasch said:

    chris3cube reminds me…
    “Consult the Book of Speeches!”
    “Speeches, chapter 4, verses 2-4…and St.Obama raised the script on high saying ‘O lord (of the flies), bless this mishmash of words so that, with it, thou mayest confound the masses, in thy mercy…and the dark lord did grin, and the people did feast upon every utterance of the Obamessiah…”

  64. #64
    On June 10th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, ChristmasGhost said:

    Uh uh umm uh uh ……..six degrees of BS.
    Isn’t it obvious to everyone why the MSM is wetting their panties over his fabulous speaking abilities?
    Now where is that teleprompter* when he needs it?
    *Michelle Obama….where are you?

  65. #65
    On June 10th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, DaveC said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:

    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    plenty of other threads about the economy.. stop being a nuance..

  66. #66
    On June 10th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:
    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    President Bush got us out of the last recession, so maybe a “third Bush term” wouldn’t be so bad.

  67. #67
    On June 10th, 2008 at 3:35 pm, lonewolf said:

    I have never understood how some people see Obama as charismatic and a brilliant orator. Without, and even with, his cue cards, he is stammering idiot… with apologies to idiots.

  68. #68
    On June 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, txvet2 said:

    I know this isn’t conventional wisdom, but according to the statistics, we aren’t in a recession, although John Mauldin among others has questioned the accuracy of the data. The last quarter’s growth rate was officially about 0.6%. The definition of a recession is 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth.

  69. #69
    On June 10th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    Well heck—he could always try the tired old “This isn’t the man I knew”

  70. #70
    On June 10th, 2008 at 3:58 pm, corkie said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:

    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ” Oops! we better change the subject. Let’s talk about the mortgage of an Obama volunteer.

    If Obama doesn’t want this issue discussed than his campaign should never have brought it up in the first place!

    lgm, I think you are getting lazier and lazier. Think before you post!

  71. #71
    On June 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    “That’s not the Jim Johnson I knew!”

  72. #72
    On June 10th, 2008 at 4:24 pm, sambo said:

    txvet2 said:
    I know this isn’t conventional wisdom, but according to the statistics, we aren’t in a recession, although John Mauldin among others has questioned the accuracy of the data. The last quarter’s growth rate was officially about 0.6%. The definition of a recession is 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth.

    I thought they actually changed that figure to .9%.

  73. #73
    On June 10th, 2008 at 4:32 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, lgm said:

    “It’s the economy, stupid . . . ”

    Not really, more like “it’s the oil speculators.”

    B.HO’s supporters on this site have been awfully active defensive today - which says a lot about the level confidence they have in their candidate and his chances against McCain in the fall.

  74. #74
    On June 10th, 2008 at 5:01 pm, gridlock said:

    Aunursa had it right. This discussion does nothing to help Michelle Obama’s kids.

    It is amazing to me that Obama has tapped three people since he “won” the nomination, and two out of three of them have been revealed as dirty. The third, Caroline Kennedy, might be dirty, but she is absolutely untouchable.

  75. #75
    On June 10th, 2008 at 6:16 pm, lgm said:

    Concerned Citizen said (#66):

    President Bush got us out of the last recession, so maybe a “third Bush term” wouldn’t be so bad.

    This isn’t likely to be a winning campaign position. The “recovery” under Bush was the weakest recovery postwar. During this supposed recovery, median income, adjusted for inflation, actually went down. More than half of Americans earned less money (adjusted) after the recovery than before.

    Bush policies are the major reason for our current problems: huge budget deficits drive the dollar down and oil costs up (not all the oil price increase is because of the falling dollar, but a healthy part is). The war in Iraq and threats against Iran create uncertainties that drive up the price of oil. Our refusal to develop alternative energy sources or improve energy efficiency forces us to consume more oil, which drives up the price (drilling in Alaska would make little difference because there isn’t that much oil there).

    Then there’s the asleep at the wheel regulators who turned a blind eye to predatory subprime lending practices that created a mountain of bad debt.

  76. #76
    On June 10th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, ArmoredCAV said:

    What did he say again? I found myself gasping for air and writhing in agony after about 3 seconds. This is like sitting through “History of the development of paper products (Lesson 5: Bounty, the quicker-picker-upper”)classes in the late spring with the sun beating through the window at 1 o’clock in the afternoon after eating a large lunzzzzzzzzzzzzzzch. I clicked play, and I can’t recall a thing after that.

  77. #77
    On June 10th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, almeehan said:

    He is merely an example of the democratic affirmative action in education, politics and social engineering. The sheeple who follow are the products of our empty education system and MSM brainwashing over the last 30 years.

  78. #78
    On June 10th, 2008 at 9:02 pm, starlightwoman said:

    No wonder Europe loves him. Think of the way they have made fun of Bush. This is just on ongoing comedy for them.

  79. #79
    On June 10th, 2008 at 9:09 pm, shooter said:

    Personally, I can’t wait for the one on one ‘town hall’ meetings. When B.Hussein tried to debate the Shill, he was roasted.
    Without a teleprompter, this guy comes across dumber than a mud fence.

  80. #80
    On June 10th, 2008 at 9:27 pm, PirateLady said:

    BO reminds me of FROZONE on THE INCREDIBLES movie a few years back.

    remember that scene - “where is my super-suit”? I said WHERE IS MY SUPER-SUIT”?

    Only BO says “where is my cue cards? Woman - where is my cue cards?

    Now I can sleep - it’s been driving me Krazy because I knew I’ve seen him somewhere before.

  81. #81
    On June 11th, 2008 at 5:43 am, graysonret said:

    I heard a lot of words there, but did he say anything? This guy sounds like a student of Prof. Irwin Corey.

  82. #82
    On June 11th, 2008 at 9:29 am, Bob in Myrtle Beach said:

    Worst case of “Foot in Mouth” I’ve ever seen…plus he’s coming down with a bad case of “Deer in the headlights” in his eyes.

    Sounds like a seven year old trying to explain the busted cookie jar on the kitchen floor, and the crumbs on his shirt.

  83. #83
    On June 11th, 2008 at 10:55 am, Chief RZ said:

    Simple. It is about integrity, Barry. You might not be familiar with that word.

  84. #84
    On June 11th, 2008 at 11:30 am, corkie said:

    On June 10th, 2008 at 6:16 pm, lgm said:

    lgm, you obviously don’t understand macro-economic concepts, and you understand even less about energy.

  85. #85
    On June 11th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, Chief RZ said:

    Macro-economic theory (John Maynard Keynes) was finally put to its death around 1995 in Graduate Economics class. Simple. Can a society exist without money? Obviously, yes!

  86. #86
    On June 11th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, DBNinKY said:

    The “recovery” under Bush was the weakest recovery postwar.

    You admit it was a recovery. And as for it being weak that is an apples and oranges comparison.

    Our contemporary economy has faced stressors and impediments like no other in our nation’s history, i.e., two simultaneous wars played out thousands of miles from our shores, back to back bubble bursts, an economic super-union in Europe, increased competition for energy, out of control spending on both sides of the isle (although the Democrats set the precedent for that),etc.

    And yet, despite all the spurious claims you laid out in your post, President Bush has kept our economy from falling through the floor and unemployment at only five and one-half percent. Although I’m sure you know but won’t admit this, unemployment rates in Europe and Asia are exponentially higher than ours.

    More than half of Americans earned less money (adjusted) after the recovery than before.

    The squeeze on the middle class is a downward trend that started long before President Bush came into office and will continue until the national debt is paid down, allowing the dollar to rebound, and the war on terror is won and not before. And while it may be true that the war negatively impacts oil and consumer prices, it is a necessary expense we all must bare to live.

    As for tax cuts and the middle class: Democrat efforts to elevate the lower classes out of poverty with increased deficit spending have done more to harm the middle class than President Bush’s tax cuts. In fact, letting the tax cuts lapse will increase unemployment and make matters far worse for the middle class.

    Bush policies are the major reason for our current problems: huge budget deficits drive the dollar down and oil costs up (not all the oil price increase is because of the falling dollar, but a healthy part is).

    In the wake of 9/11, with our nation in shambles, President Bush’s tax cuts and stimulus plan kept a mortally wounded US economy breathing and able to recover.

    “Our refusal to develop alternative energy sources or improve energy efficiency forces us to consume more oil, which drives up the price… .”

    OUR REFUSAL?! What about the Democrats’ decision to disallow any new drilling or to develop our vast coal reserves? According to Pat Buchanan, the arguments Democrats use now against drilling in ANWR are the same unfounded, silly ones they used against Nixon and the Alaskan Pipeline. And we know what a joke those arguments turned out to be in retrospect!

    Then there’s the asleep at the wheel regulators who turned a blind eye to predatory subprime lending practices that created a mountain of bad debt.

    Regulation is not the problem. Greedy investors and willfully naive consumers with eyes bigger than their wallets, are/were the problem in the sub prime mess. The question now is how to fix it - without sinking the nation further into like BHO wants with his unbridled spending proposals.

  87. #87
    On June 11th, 2008 at 6:20 pm, fred5676 said:

    College???

    This guy went to COLLEGE???

    Oh, he went to LAW SCHOOL??

    You mean he went to HARVARD LAW SCHOOL??

    And GRADUATED???

    I don’t believe it.

    Oh, that’s right - he was a street organizer, not a Wall Street lawyer. I wonder what corporation missed out on this sharp tack?

    “Troglodyte”, “empty suit”, “poser” and “charlatan” come to mind.

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