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	<title>Comments on: Deadbeat, defaulting Dem&#8217;s fishy deal with WaMu</title>
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		<title>By: Mortgage Morality &#171; Clear Fog Blog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-351263</link>
		<dc:creator>Mortgage Morality &#171; Clear Fog Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on June 16, 2008  Writings by two syndicated columnists caught my eye recently. The first was on Michelle Malkin’s blog. It covered the revelations regarding Congresswoman Laura Richardson from California. Apparently, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on June 16, 2008  Writings by two syndicated columnists caught my eye recently. The first was on Michelle Malkin’s blog. It covered the revelations regarding Congresswoman Laura Richardson from California. Apparently, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ptg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ptg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Buy and Bail&quot; isn&#039;t illegal, and likely shouldn&#039;t be illegal. 

It is, however, &lt;strong&gt;shameful&lt;/strong&gt;. Provided the transgressor has a sense of shame. Laura Richardson: call her &lt;em&gt;Sinverguenza&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Buy and Bail&#8221; isn&#8217;t illegal, and likely shouldn&#8217;t be illegal. </p>
<p>It is, however, <strong>shameful</strong>. Provided the transgressor has a sense of shame. Laura Richardson: call her <em>Sinverguenza</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: starlightwoman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347695</link>
		<dc:creator>starlightwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 11th, 2008 at 9:31 am, bloghooligan said: 
Re: Michelle Augustine - wouldn’t the bank simply apply the loss of the house she willingly let go into foreclosure to a lien on her new house? And if that bank so desired, couldn’t they force foreclosure on the new house to pay off the debt of the old (which would be way more than the $200k she’s currently in the hole for).

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No - Banks are not allowed to do that with mortgages.  The mortgage is tied to the specific property.  So if the bank takes a loss on that property then it&#039;s the banks loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 11th, 2008 at 9:31 am, bloghooligan said:<br />
Re: Michelle Augustine &#8211; wouldn’t the bank simply apply the loss of the house she willingly let go into foreclosure to a lien on her new house? And if that bank so desired, couldn’t they force foreclosure on the new house to pay off the debt of the old (which would be way more than the $200k she’s currently in the hole for).</p>
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<p>No &#8211; Banks are not allowed to do that with mortgages.  The mortgage is tied to the specific property.  So if the bank takes a loss on that property then it&#8217;s the banks loss.</p>
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		<title>By: starlightwoman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347692</link>
		<dc:creator>starlightwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“I can find the same exact house as what I live in right now for half the price,” says Ms. Augustine, 44 years old, who runs a child-care service out of her home. She says she soon will be unable to afford her monthly payments, which will jump to $4,000 from $3,300 in August, and she doesn’t want to continue to own a home that is now worth $200,000 less than what she paid for it two years ago.

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Ms. Augustine should be calling her mortgage company to see what type of modifications they have for pre-deliquency borrowers.  The bank I work for allows you to lock in a minimum payment rate or fixed rate.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s just a business decision,” says Linda Caoili, a Sacramento real-estate agent who is working with Ms. Augustine and others who are considering walking away from their mortgages&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ms. Caoili should be called in front of an ethics board and lose her real estate license and be investigated for fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“I can find the same exact house as what I live in right now for half the price,” says Ms. Augustine, 44 years old, who runs a child-care service out of her home. She says she soon will be unable to afford her monthly payments, which will jump to $4,000 from $3,300 in August, and she doesn’t want to continue to own a home that is now worth $200,000 less than what she paid for it two years ago.</p>
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<p>Ms. Augustine should be calling her mortgage company to see what type of modifications they have for pre-deliquency borrowers.  The bank I work for allows you to lock in a minimum payment rate or fixed rate.</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s just a business decision,” says Linda Caoili, a Sacramento real-estate agent who is working with Ms. Augustine and others who are considering walking away from their mortgages</p></blockquote>
<p>Ms. Caoili should be called in front of an ethics board and lose her real estate license and be investigated for fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: starlightwoman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347683</link>
		<dc:creator>starlightwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This smells terrible, indeed. Perhaps reporters could simply ask some general questions of WaMu about its foreclosure workout policies. Like:

* How often are modifications or repayment plans offered to owners of vacant investment properties with no or negative equity that have never been listed or rented? &lt;strong&gt;ALL THE TIME&lt;/strong&gt;
* How often are modifications offered to borrowers with two other properties currently in foreclosure? &lt;strong&gt;ALL THE TIME&lt;/strong&gt;
* How often are modifications arranged in the week before the scheduled trustee’s sale, following nearly a year of no contact?&lt;strong&gt;ALL THE TIME&lt;/strong&gt;
* Does WaMu’s policy on modifications make any reference to requiring a “commitment to homeownership” on the borrower’s part? How, normally, is that established?&lt;strong&gt;Cannot state specifially about WAMU - but in the industry, if a bank has the loan, they don&#039;t want to take it to foreclosure - since it&#039;s a money losing proposition.  They would rather work with a borrower.&lt;/strong&gt;
* Does WaMu’s policy on modifications make any reference to establishing that the borrower does not display a “disregard for debt obligations”? How, normally, is that established?&lt;strong&gt;Credit is usually pulled.  Ratios are calculated to see if the borrower is able to pay the mortgage. If the borrower breaks the modification agreement the home goes back into foreclosure and they are not given a third chance (in most cases)&lt;/strong&gt;

If, for instance, we had some evidence that stiffing creditors and getting the taxpayers to subsidize her financial imprudence was, like, a pattern of Richardson’s long before the house payments went into default, would that, like, indicate that her mortgage problems may not have much to do with “extenuating circumstances”?&lt;strong&gt;In this case I would be very surprised that an underwriter would apporove it - since it was not due to hardship but due to misappropriation of funds on her part.  The only way would be to have a high level manager approve it.&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This smells terrible, indeed. Perhaps reporters could simply ask some general questions of WaMu about its foreclosure workout policies. Like:</p>
<p>* How often are modifications or repayment plans offered to owners of vacant investment properties with no or negative equity that have never been listed or rented? <strong>ALL THE TIME</strong><br />
* How often are modifications offered to borrowers with two other properties currently in foreclosure? <strong>ALL THE TIME</strong><br />
* How often are modifications arranged in the week before the scheduled trustee’s sale, following nearly a year of no contact?<strong>ALL THE TIME</strong><br />
* Does WaMu’s policy on modifications make any reference to requiring a “commitment to homeownership” on the borrower’s part? How, normally, is that established?<strong>Cannot state specifially about WAMU &#8211; but in the industry, if a bank has the loan, they don&#8217;t want to take it to foreclosure &#8211; since it&#8217;s a money losing proposition.  They would rather work with a borrower.</strong><br />
* Does WaMu’s policy on modifications make any reference to establishing that the borrower does not display a “disregard for debt obligations”? How, normally, is that established?<strong>Credit is usually pulled.  Ratios are calculated to see if the borrower is able to pay the mortgage. If the borrower breaks the modification agreement the home goes back into foreclosure and they are not given a third chance (in most cases)</strong></p>
<p>If, for instance, we had some evidence that stiffing creditors and getting the taxpayers to subsidize her financial imprudence was, like, a pattern of Richardson’s long before the house payments went into default, would that, like, indicate that her mortgage problems may not have much to do with “extenuating circumstances”?<strong>In this case I would be very surprised that an underwriter would apporove it &#8211; since it was not due to hardship but due to misappropriation of funds on her part.  The only way would be to have a high level manager approve it.</strong>
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		<title>By: New Word: Patheticism &#124; hillbillypolitics.com</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347550</link>
		<dc:creator>New Word: Patheticism &#124; hillbillypolitics.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Look closely. In April Blackburn&#8217;s office conducted its own audit and reported the inaccuracies on its own. What&#8217;s the purpose of this filing from Crew?  Media attention. It&#8217;s a pathetic attempt to grab attention and possibly push out a Republican at the same time. Yes, I know they&#8217;ll say that they are nonpartisan but if you really look at their site, you&#8217;ll see that only the most agregious and obviously corrupt Democrats are listed as having charges filed against them, such as Congresswoman Laura Richardson. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Look closely. In April Blackburn&#8217;s office conducted its own audit and reported the inaccuracies on its own. What&#8217;s the purpose of this filing from Crew?  Media attention. It&#8217;s a pathetic attempt to grab attention and possibly push out a Republican at the same time. Yes, I know they&#8217;ll say that they are nonpartisan but if you really look at their site, you&#8217;ll see that only the most agregious and obviously corrupt Democrats are listed as having charges filed against them, such as Congresswoman Laura Richardson. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Southpaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The important questions to ask: What legislation pending before congress will benefit WAMU? How will the cleptocrat congresswoman from Long Beach vote on the legislation? She could excuse herself from voting.....hold on....I just saw a pig fly by the window! Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The important questions to ask: What legislation pending before congress will benefit WAMU? How will the cleptocrat congresswoman from Long Beach vote on the legislation? She could excuse herself from voting&#8230;..hold on&#8230;.I just saw a pig fly by the window! Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: karenhasfreedom</title>
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		<dc:creator>karenhasfreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless that lady plans to BK when she walks away from her existing house and buys a new house down the street, she is going to get a nasty IRS surprise.  The will be given a 1099 form for the &quot;forgiven&quot; part of the mortgage she walked away from.  It is considered taxable income by the IRS.  So $200K in 1099 income will result in probably a $100K tax she is going to owe to the state and the Fed.  HAHA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless that lady plans to BK when she walks away from her existing house and buys a new house down the street, she is going to get a nasty IRS surprise.  The will be given a 1099 form for the &#8220;forgiven&#8221; part of the mortgage she walked away from.  It is considered taxable income by the IRS.  So $200K in 1099 income will result in probably a $100K tax she is going to owe to the state and the Fed.  HAHA.</p>
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		<title>By: Yashmak</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347319</link>
		<dc:creator>Yashmak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More evidence that the banks and this serial defaulter have some sort of quid-pro-quo going on.

I&#039;m interested in hearing what WaMu gets out of this deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More evidence that the banks and this serial defaulter have some sort of quid-pro-quo going on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in hearing what WaMu gets out of this deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Soldier</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347275</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California homes are down!!!

PLEEEEASE --you conservatives in other states.....

come on over to the Pacific coast...

The weather is great....

We can get this great state back  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California homes are down!!!</p>
<p>PLEEEEASE &#8211;you conservatives in other states&#8230;..</p>
<p>come on over to the Pacific coast&#8230;</p>
<p>The weather is great&#8230;.</p>
<p>We can get this great state back  <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: right_on</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347227</link>
		<dc:creator>right_on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ms. Augustine, 44 years old, who runs a child-care service out of her home. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And people trust this woman with their children after this disclosure? And we wonder where some of our kids get their ideas? Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ms. Augustine, 44 years old, who runs a child-care service out of her home. </p></blockquote>
<p>And people trust this woman with their children after this disclosure? And we wonder where some of our kids get their ideas? Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; What&#8217;s Eliot Spitzer up to now?</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/deadbeat-defaulting-dems-fishy-deal-with-wamu/comment-page-1/#comment-347221</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; What&#8217;s Eliot Spitzer up to now?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I hear defaulting Democrat Rep. Laura Richardson wants in.  Posted in: Corruption, Democrats, Subprime crisis  Send to a Friend Printer Friendly   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I hear defaulting Democrat Rep. Laura Richardson wants in.  Posted in: Corruption, Democrats, Subprime crisis  Send to a Friend Printer Friendly   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; What&#8217;s Eliot Spitzer up to now?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; What&#8217;s Eliot Spitzer up to now?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I hear defaulting Democrat Rep. Laura Richardson wants in.  Posted in: Corruption, Democrats, Subprime crisis  Send to a Friend Printer Friendly   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I hear defaulting Democrat Rep. Laura Richardson wants in.  Posted in: Corruption, Democrats, Subprime crisis  Send to a Friend Printer Friendly   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mom2jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a mortgage and bank accounts with WAMU. One week I screwed up and got an overdraft fee of $35. I called to politely ask their forgiveness and get my $35 back. They refused of course. So I&#039;m guessing they wouldn&#039;t be too happy about us not paying on our loan for 12 months. Normal people don&#039;t even get off the hook for $35, but I guess &quot;ethical&quot; congress people get to walk away from $100K+ in debts. Makes perfect sense to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a mortgage and bank accounts with WAMU. One week I screwed up and got an overdraft fee of $35. I called to politely ask their forgiveness and get my $35 back. They refused of course. So I&#8217;m guessing they wouldn&#8217;t be too happy about us not paying on our loan for 12 months. Normal people don&#8217;t even get off the hook for $35, but I guess &#8220;ethical&#8221; congress people get to walk away from $100K+ in debts. Makes perfect sense to me!</p>
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		<title>By: denmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>denmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Re: Michelle Augustine - wouldn’t the bank simply apply the loss of the house she willingly let go into foreclosure to a lien on her new house? And if that bank so desired, couldn’t they force foreclosure on the new house to pay off the debt of the old (which would be way more than the $200k she’s currently in the hole for).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Indeed.  This is the other half of the mortgage irresponsibility equations:  the lenders apprently find it easier to let the deadbeats off the hook for whatever the foreclosure auction brings.  Their losses are then covered by the interest and fees paid by their responsible customers, and of course the federal taxpayers.  Yet another reason to NOT bail them out (the borrowers OR the lenders).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Re: Michelle Augustine &#8211; wouldn’t the bank simply apply the loss of the house she willingly let go into foreclosure to a lien on her new house? And if that bank so desired, couldn’t they force foreclosure on the new house to pay off the debt of the old (which would be way more than the $200k she’s currently in the hole for).</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed.  This is the other half of the mortgage irresponsibility equations:  the lenders apprently find it easier to let the deadbeats off the hook for whatever the foreclosure auction brings.  Their losses are then covered by the interest and fees paid by their responsible customers, and of course the federal taxpayers.  Yet another reason to NOT bail them out (the borrowers OR the lenders).</p>
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