Obama wanted to ban gun stores within five miles of schools and parks?
In other words, he pretty much wanted to ban gun stores. Five miles from a school is pretty much exiling gun stores to the rural hinterlands, outside of most city limits. (I wonder what Obama’s pretend gun-rights group will have to say about this?)
James Taranto (first item) has links to some interesting maps of Cleveland and Phoenix that show the relative density of schools in each, which were drawn to demonstrate the effects of the 1000-foot radius covered by the federal gun-free school zones provision. If you can imagine those circles each being 26 times bigger, you’d get an idea of how big the zone of exclusion for gun stores would be.
This was a proposal Obama made when he was still a state legislator in 1999, but Taranto thinks it shows Obama’s true colors:
…these are positions Obama took as a state legislator. It is unlikely that he would stand by them today, and even unlikelier that Congress would enact them*. But it does lead one to think that Obama’s instinct is to trash, rather than protect, the Constitution.
There’s more here at the Volokh Conspiracy, which sources these positions to a 1999 Chicago Defender article that contains several equally alarming proposals, including banning the sale of guns (other than antique firearms) at gun shows outright. Mind you, not just “closing the loophole” or any of the gungrabbers’ usual soft soap–he wanted to legislate gun shows out of existence by turning them into swap meets for flintlock enthusiasts.
Big question: if he doesn’t stand by these positions today, why not? Someone needs to ask him.
Either Obama is a hollow man who flirts with these radical ideas for political expediency and to ingratiate himself with the brunch-with-Bill-Ayers deep-pocket Hyde Park bobos–or he’s even more deeply, dangerously radical than I thought. No wonder Dan Boren won’t endorse him.
One question, though, which makes me regard this story with a bit of caution. First line from that Defender article:
Sweeping federal gun control legislation proposed by Sen. Barack Obama (D-13th) would increase the penalties on gun runners who are flooding Chicago’s streets with illegal weapons.
Why, as an Illinois State Senator, was Obama proposing Federal legislation? Was he just trying to get attention? If so, I’m happy to give it to him.
*Really? Not all of them, maybe. Not right away.
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I do not doubt that IF Obama -like McCain- saw that the gun vote in Congress got whittled away enough that they would go for more gun control to please their liberal allies…At this point even with the “new” dems they’ve gotten elected -as the GOP veered left-didn’t get in unless they were pro-gun and such…So overall they are hesitant for now…
For now this is good news, but don’t relax.. always watch your back
The Founders knew-(history) that an un-armed citizenry was an easy target for those who wish to wield power over others. Thus the:
SECOND AMMENDMENT!
Has anyone heard any rumblings about how the supreme court will rule on the Heller case?
Gun control, registration, confiscation are part and parcel of the Left’s control over their “subjects”. As Christian Soldier points out “an un-armed citizenry was an easy target”. Reasonable restrictions by unreasonable people does not seem too reasonable to me, but I am just Bitterly Clinging to my God and Guns.
We have seen this fascist nonsense in Britain and France and more than a few American cities and states. Crime is not the fascist worry; the fascist needs a helpless and dependant subject class.It does not matter if it is the smiley face fascism of American Progressives or Stalin’s Iron Glove.
The unarmed subjects will fall into lockstep or suffer the consequences. Even the American Progressives of the smiley face will build the Gulag once they have the power.
So he can shoot his mouth off again…
Nothing new on the Heller case. Still undecided. I suppose the judges will get to it (decision) when they get to it. These socialists, in congress, don’t care at all about the Constitution, unless it agrees with their opinion at the time, of course. So, don’t expect them to honor the 2nd amendment. The 10th amendment is totally nonexistent now. So, BO “supports” gun rights, but doesn’t want any store within 5 miles of a school. Hmm. That means if I want to buy a hunting rifle, being here on the east coast, the nearest place would be….someplace out in Kansas or Montana, maybe.
I’m not overly concerned about this one yet considering Obama doesn’t seem to stand by what he said last week, much less ten years ago. Example-Jeruselum.
However, I’ll be bitterly clinging to my gun untill they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
Obama’s true color is: red. Take away the means of people to resist…
His desire to radically punish the United States is becoming more evident to me every day. He will not be good for America, and he is not helping Michelle’s kids.
Liberals can’t seem to get it through their heads that legally sold guns are rarely used in crimes. They are sold to law abiding citizens.
What needs to be banned five miles from these areas are street gangs and thugs. That would make sense, but liberals have none.
B. Hussein Omama, Michelle and the kids have Secret Service protection. I don’t.
The personal safety of my Family and my Home is My Personal Responsibility.
Obama is the Wrong Candidate at the Wrong Time in the Wrong Country. He might be more appropriate for Russia circa 1914. I’m sure that he and Lenin would have gotten along swell!
His Father abandoned Him but Our Founding Fathers had it right. The Democrats are the New Marxist Party in the USA. They do not respect the Rights that the Founding Fathers considered necessary, the Bill of Rights is not negotiable not now or ever.
Dicking around with the Constitution at this point is not acceptable. Neither is excessive Taxation, Socialized Medicine, Government takeover of whats left of Free Enterprise, Surrender of US soviergnty to the UN or revocation on the 2nd Amendment which Secures all of the rest of them.
See these Marxists for Who and What they are!
They aim to wreck the Economy, Revoke Your Rights and Destroy the Nation.
Obama is a finely crafted tool and a fool.
An Omama Administration would be 10 times worse than a second Carter Term.
That Marxist, Racist Punk is Dangerous.
Michelles kids are Her responsibility, My Kids and twin 4 year old grand daughters are Mine. Without benefit of special privilege, SEcret Service Protection or Affirmative Action.
Enough on that. Time for me to take my blood pressure meds.
I’ve got a great idea! Let’s ban fuzzy minded liberal thinking within five miles of schools. Of course we will need a bunch of new teachers.
The statistics bear out the fact that where there is strong, gun control there is higher crime rates – especially crimes where “illegal” guns are used in the commission of the crime. If gun control worked so well, there wouldn’t be any guns around to commit the crimes in the first place.
After the knife attack in Japan, moves are afoot to ban large knives in both Japan and the UK. Go figure
If my kids are in school, and the bad guys come in, as they did in Russia, I want the teacher armed. I want security guards armed. I want every responsible adult in/near the school armed. I am armed, a legal concealed carry license holder. It’s what keeps Texans safe!
Ban guns within 5 miles? At least you can still buy drugs at school so it’s not ALL bad.
Wouldn’t want people to be able to defend themselves, or be able to oppose the governement should it get out of hand, now would we?
I wonder what my gun-toting, Obama-voting FIL will think about this.
Can I send him a copy of John Lotts book, More Guns, Less Crime? And can he ask the FBI for it’s latest crime statistics corrolating crime with gun control laws?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Liberals always seem to think that if they only pass this gun control law, it’ll finally work.
I have been getting the skinny on the Obamasiah and his anti-gun stand regularly from my NRA First Freedom magazine for months. This is a man that would have no problem in suspending the 2nd Amendment destroying our God given rights of self protection and preservation and to ensure “Big Daddy Government” could micro-manage all of our lives without a fight from an unarmed populace. I kind of think of these rights along the lines of the “life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness” statement in the Declaration of Independence, which I have found myself referring to more and more as our government grows more tyrannical at all levels.
To be fair “she who must not be named’ is no better and I trust the “grumpy old man” as far as I can throw him considering he showed his contempt for the Bill of Rights by limiting free speech under the unconstitutional McCain-Feingold law. What would keep him from throwing us all under the bus on this issue too? I have to agree with Heinlein about an armed society being a polite society.
That’s the typical socialist democrat’s instinct, not just Obama’s.
Given the fact that there is a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, but not to public parks or schools, there is a real simple solution that fits with Obama’s proclivities.
Any time a gun shop opens, the government must close all public parks and public schools within five miles of the store.
Let’s have a well regulated militia, and let the people buy the arms they bear and keep at least five miles from a school.
Let’s go with original intent. The framers of the constitution intended the people to keep muzzle loaded rifles and muskets. They did not intend the people to keep semi-automatics.
lgm, thanks for your 2 cents worth that is worth a plug nickel and half a handful of rat $hit. I can can count on your warped sense of values like I can trust the Taliban to defend My Freedom.
I spent the majority of my adult life defending your 1st Amendment Rights.
Now be a good one and drink your Kool Aid and take your Meds and go away!
People who travel with armed guards always want to ban gun posession by those who don’t.
lgm…
Got your blunderbuss under your pillow?
Ok lgm, if you’re going to restrict my right to own a semi-automatic, then I get the right to restrict your freedom of speech over any electronic media. Telephone, television, radio, internet, movies, records, cd’s, dvd’s. This extends to anything not printed on a Gutenburg-type printing press. If you want to scream from the street corner, that’s fine. If you want to give out hand-printed copies of your “newspaper” or “magazine”, that’s fine too.
The 1st Amendment did not intend for any modern technology to be used for expression of “freedom of speech”.
I’ll let you guess if I’m being sarcastic.
Shall we hold the other Amendments to the same standard?
Okay LGM, lets see what the militia really is.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=10&sec=311
Section 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are –
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard
and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of
the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the
Naval Militia.
So LGM, under your logical all able bodied males between 17-45 and only females in the national guard can own weapons. I will let you explain to the feminists why they can’t own something a male can unless they join the military. Have fun getting castrated!!!
An armed populace consists of citizens, an unarmed populace consists of subjects…
Typical liberal mentality. They can magically read “rights” not framed by the Constitution – like abortion and gay marriage – but rights actually written in the Constitution are somehow not applicable.
What part of the Bill of Rights is incomprehensible to you?
Or are all liberals reading the Constitution with those special glasses Nicholas Cage used in “National Treasure”?
Pretty funny that liberals define the Constitution as a “living, breathing” document but that people like lgm think it doesn’t apply to advanced technologies…and that we must keep the Second Amendment to antiquated weaponry like muskets.
Guess that means we can’t use airplanes or missles for national defense, either, right, lgm?
As a citizen of SOUTHERN Illinois, I have asked my absentee senator to put a ‘gun free zone’ sign in front of his house but to give me back the right to carry concealed. Needless to say he just patted me on the head with a form letter. Senator Durbin is no better, sometimes I wish he were also absentee.
I think our children in school would be safer by far with an armed community.
An armed person is a citizen, an unarmed person is a subject. Hail to King DOHbama !
If you are honest about staying with the original intent, the Founding Fathers did not intend for the Federal Government to have such invasive control of our lives.
It was also intended that every able bodied male – children and adults – would own and know how to use the state-of-the-art firearm of the day.
On the open thread I did get a shock and hope for change.
Check this out.
But what if the park happens to be a gun range? and is named after George (HW) Bush?
And I don’t know if anyone pointed this out, but isn’t there outrage from some (not all, but some) liberals when you propose keeping pedophiles and registered sex offenders five miles away from schools and parks?
Be more sensitive Please!
lgm could easily be either or both!
You’re right Trooper, he is a TEACHER !
you took both my points girl. and don’t forget, you’ll be able to visit the adult store to get some porn with your favorite registered sex offender.
Sambo:
Apologies.
But I totally forgot about the “adult entertainment” stores, so +1 point for you…
Militia; Any army composed of CITIZENS rather than professional soldiers, called up in time of emergency. Now how does LGM suppose the Militia be ready if the CITIZENS Right To Keep and Bare Arms is taken away. I’m not talking about the National Guard here. This is as stated in the Constitution !!!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus in Jackboots.
Tennessee, good point, but don’t waste it on liberals, spread it around to the people. There is one thing our elected leaders are, and that is smart. We like to think of them as stupid because they do stupid things, but the truth is, is that they think WE are stupid and that they are just “talking at our level so we can understand.”
Socialist like Obama know the Constitution all too well. He knows that an unarmed citizen is easily overtaken. We have two powers as a people over our government, our money and our arms and since we gave the gov’t the right to legally steal our money years ago (thanks Woody) we only have one left. When it is gone, we are gone and they know it.
However, they will use whatever rhetoric works to convince naive dolts like lgm and their comrades. My mother hates guns, but believes in the 2nd amendment so it is not about loving guns. It is about loving freedom.
lgm , have you ever been right, as in correct, on anything? This well regulated militia of which you speak is the Whole Body of Free Men. That Sir is original intent. Read your history.’They did not intend the people to keep semi-automatics‘, are you sure? They certainly said ‘arms’ and the arms were the current military standards of the day, both rifled and smoothbore.
The framers of the Constitution intended the people to keep themselves armed to protect self, family, neighbor and freedoms. But I am fairly sure you know all this. If not read the Federalist and anti-Federalist Papers. Or are they just a bunch of dead white guys?
But you really enjoy being the Jerk in Knee Jerk don’t you? Now if we could keep lgm five miles from any school we might make some progress.
Uhhhhh…….
I actually DO own a black powder revolver.
May I at least keep THAT one? Would that be closer to original intent?
#41……….Ya knocked it over center field fence my man !
Now that is legislation I can back
Hey Tom, keep it, like I will keep my semi auto pistols and rifles.
Black powder…Hmmm I don’t own one of those because the take too long to reload. I salute your old traditional values but you might want to think about modernizing your arms.
Smokeless powder is available now. As is the availability of hand guns that have more that six rounds capacity.
Get one now before the rush!
This is pure unadulterated bull crap. There was complete parity in arms between the government and the citizenry when the Bill of Rights was approved. You could buy any gun the government could. Period!
You also could, at that time, use your weapon to defend not only your self, your family, your property, and your sacred honor; but you could also come to the common defense of others.
I wonder if that big fat target Geraldo would be still inclined to work up a big one for dead eye Michelle if she could challenge him to a duel?
soap, that was funny.
(Grinning)…Thanks for the advice, Old Trooper…
Actually, the revolver mentioned hangs on the wall next to a sign that says “What part of NO don’t you understand?” I think it lends the sign an interesting emphasis.
While I’m not inclined to get too specific on a national blog I can say that I’m as thoroughly modern as the next fellow.
As a matter of fact, think it’s time to head to the range tomorrow…
Happy Trails….
With little girly man’s inability to comprehend and extrapolate from a simple document like the Constitution, we can see why it’s no great wonder why kids graduating from public school these days are so poorly educated.
I prefer to bear arms because cops are too heavy to tote around.
Among his most inconsistent positions is how Obama views abortion and the second amendment. He claims that the second amendment is an individual right to bear arms. yet, he is for just about any restriction on that right. On abortion, any hint of curbing that right and Obama sees it as some sort of a “slippery slope”. Another words, a right that is in the constitution can be curbed at will, while one created by a court can’t or face some sort of a “slippery slope”.
Here is how I wrote about it.
They intended the people to have those weapons used by the infantry units. Updating that to today, we need to alter the laws to alow private citizens to own fully automatic weapons, rocket launchers, and grenades.
By your–ahem–logic, the framers didn’t intend for broadcasters to be covered under press freedoms or recording artists and titty dancers to be covered by free speech provisions since those media didn’t exist in 1787.
Stick to long division and leave defense of our freedoms to the men.
Peace out.
The Gun Free School Zones Act was ruled unconstitutional over a decade ago by the US Supreme Court (US v. Lopez). It’s a violation of Federalism.
I wonder if Obama ever read that case?
First they took away the guns, now will be the knives. When’ll they take away the forks?
Honestly, if the framers of the constitution hadn’t wanted the citizens armed with what was (and is currently) available legally, they would’ve stipulated militia to be armed with spear, tomahawk and spear so as to be less of a threat to the government should they get the notion to overthrow it by violent means.
That would’ve made a liberal happy back the 1780′s as it would have leveled the battlefield with the poorer armed indians, oops! Native Americans, out on the frontier.
So, if we ban legitimate stores that sell guns within city limits (or at least within 5 miles of a school) wouldn’t that limit the competition that illegal, irresponsible firearms distributors are facing? Just a coincidence?
Legitimate gun dealers would never sell a firearm to a minor. The inverse cannot be said truthfully. Exactly what is the purpose of this proposal? Besides another attempt to limit our constitutionally protected rights, I mean.
# 55 JBro thank you- you just raised a ???
I always “follow the $$$$$”
If legitimate gun stores are banned – & underground gun-runners appear—-
who gets the CASH payoff? —
You know- kind of like the cash in hand like J.Jackson had the other day – or the cash in the freezer that…….
….Just asking…
I missed the lgm baching party – dern it.
…bashing…
And I even hit preview!
I prefer to bear arms because cops are too heavy to tote around.
Now THAT is funny.
This is only one of a kazillion reasons to keep Barack Hussein Obama out of the Oval Office. I don’t even want him in there as a visiting Senator. With all of the other anti-gun nuts in Congress, he’d have no problem getting something like this passed nationwide , untill all of the guns were taken from each and every legal citizen.
The Second Amendment is already suspended.
How else do you think we could be sitting here using terminology like “illegal guns”?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
I can’t imagine how many gun shops in Oregon would go out of business with an idiotic law like this. I’d guess that almost every one of them would be out of business because of the amount of parks we have here.
As soon as they realize people who are forking around are having a good time.
Can’t have THAT now can we?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
A marxist paradise such as Obama desires requires the elimination of citizen owned guns – only the SS need guns to assist citizens in the new world.
Well, gag me with a spoon! : )
LGm the second amendment to the US constitution is not nor has it been solely about gun collecting as you imply.
The Second amendment has been to insure that government would never have a monopoly on force, and as it has been shown throughout history, governments with a monopoly of force are oppressive in terms of liberty, and never do much to protect minorities that are not in favor with the powers that be.
Use a little common sense with respect to the founder’s thinking, LGM
Good quote EnglishQueen101
Two questions:
1. What does “well regulated” mean, as in “well regulated militia”?
2. If citizens are supposed to have access to the same weapons as our military, does that extend to nukes? Anti aircraft missiles? Cluster bombs?
LGM:
“well-regulated”-means something that is capable of being effective for a desired end. A militia that is disarmed is not effective.
RE: #2-It means small arms, LGM.-I doubt the founders could have visualized what you mentioned.
Most people I know could never afford the latest model of anti-aircraft missile or designer cluster bomb, and as for nukes…think of the lawsuits one could get if their homemade nuke went off.
I mean your argument on the second amendment if applied to the first amendment would make it a crime to own/possess a computer to write the column you just did!
Get real, LGM.
Heh, liberals get their most of their information on weapons from two sources, Hollywood and from whatever their overlords tell them they should start calling for bans for. Nothing but authoritarians and their willing serfs.
We can’t have regulations on his ability to type on a computer to express his free speech. That would just be insanity. /sarc
Wrong! Read this: http://www.jpfo.org/smith/smith-leo-straight.htm
A couple few quotes to remember:
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington
“A right that can be regulated is no right at all, only a temporary privilege dependent upon the good will of the very government officials that such right is designed to constrain.”
“How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual… as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of.” – Suzanna Hupp
I must have missed the history lesson where the citizens in the 1700′s and 1800′s kept cannons on hand in their homes for use when needed.
Good gracious! I understand liberals love moral relativism, lgm, but it’s really only one extreme or the next to you, isn’t it?
hawkeye54 said:
Her face should be on Mount Rushmore for that quote-oh so true!
Amen to that!
Exactly as the progressive Dhimicrats and RINOs (aka assephants)see we the people and act accordingly.
Of course liberals like lgm are afraid of citizens with guns. It is the only thing keeping them from oppressing us (completely, as they already have a good head start in far too many other areas of a supposed free life) into a new surfdom with the democrat-elite as the new overlords. Which is exactly why the founders were smart enough to add it into the Constitution in the first place to keep America free from falling under the tyranny of evil men like lgm.
But he and his overlords can try and take my (legally owned, and licensed to carry concealed) guns protected by the second ammendment… from my cold dead hands. And I wish you luck trying, since all the soldiers I keep in contact with and served with share my point of view on “gun-control”.
amendment*
Which definition do you prefer, lgm? (I doubt you’ll select 2-4.)
And as for the weapons of mass destruction part, i.e., nukes, etc., that’s relativism carried beyond the point of parody, and into abject absurdity.
Actually in the 1700′s it was not that terribly unusual for people with the money to afford them to own cannon. Most people did not because they were expensive to own, but many people did anyway.
lgm:
Why don’t you move to Britain? They banned handguns over there, and violent crime has skyrocketed 300% since that ban.
You’ll feel a lot more safe there. /sarc
Am I missing something here? What does the distance, whether 1000ft or 25000ft, from a school or park to a store that sells guns (a pawn shop, a WalMart) have to do one to the other?
What is the fear, is a person going to buy a gun, run out the door to the school or park across the street and shoot it up? Ridiculous
Location of a porno shop yes, a WalMart because it sell guns, a resounding no! This is a ludicrous and unnecessary restriction.
PC is Thought Control
LEE
Guess you did. At least at some level. Ever hear of armed cargo sailing ships? What were they armed with? Cannon. Who owned the cannon? Private citizens who owned the ship.
The government is authorized to issue letters of marque (Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution). What are letters of marque? Essentially the authorization of private ships to engage as warships. This would be pointless without having armed private ships available.
lgm is an idiot. He prefers a criminal with a handgun over a law abiding citizen with a handgun.
Now, where did I misplace my nuke?
Well, obviously, I was joking. Citizens would have had personal cannons had they been affordable, practical and useful to them. I believe some communities may have posessed a cannon or two to supplement the militia. In most cases, whatever was within financial means and easy to tote made do for the individual.
Now, commercial ships at sea, a different story. Cannons necessary to supplement a tiny US Navy and for protection from hostile forces, including nefarious pirates not quite as cordial and fun-loving as Captain Jack Sparrow.
I noticed that I said something to lgm to that effect and it’s deleted now.. you where more cordial than I was..
Well regulated.. well, none of my guns are rusted shut.. they work fine, so they are well regulated..
as for the militia.. I registered for selective service when I was 18, to be eligible for the service.. far as I’m concerned.. I’m part of the militia of citizens who might need to take up his arms..
LGM, you live in Rio Linda, don’t you..
Answer: No lgm’s allowed.
Thomas Jefferson explaining what he and the other founders meant by keeping the citizenry armed goes against lgm’s plans to turn us into his subjects so thus you won’t hear a peep from him on the obvious fact that the second amendment always has allowed for a citizen of the United States to “keep and bear arms”.
But thanks for the history atheling, it brings a warm smile to my face to know at least our founders got it right about keeping the populace armed when they laid out our Constitution. Now if we can just keep the liberals from screwing it up maybe we can remain the super-power of the world and remain the most free nation on the planet.
alaskangrizzly:
If only they taught more about the founding of our nation and the men and women involved, rather than the inane and poisonous pablum that passes for public education today.
We have many hurdles to leap before we can even approach the original intent of our founding fathers. With the left controlling academia and the media, it is a Herculean task.
I refer you to one Prof. Lawrence Tribe of Harvard University who notes, “The people’s ‘right’ to be armed cannot be trumped by the [Second] Amendment’s preamble.” Nor can the government pronounce the militia dead and then decree that the right to bear arms is archaic.
A Google search will help you get up to speed. Similarly, a search of the rapid increase of violent crime in countries that banned gun ownership, subesequent to that ban, shows that your beliefs are counterintuitive and counterproductive.
When you come right down to it, liberals simply do not trust the people to be honest, do the right thing or be proficient in the use of weapons.
In other words, you think we are all liberals!
Well regulated simply means (to liberals such as yourself) an opportunity to put fees (taxes) on Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Why don’t we put a fee on abortions?
Ah, reductio ad absurdum. Must be your middle name.
Oh please, great lgm! Protect us from ourselves, since you are so omniscient and wise. (I am sure everyone sees the sarcasm in that statement. Except for the liberal mascot, lgm)
So schoolchildren won’t be burdened with the sight of gun shops within five miles of schools, but they will have easy access to the media that produces the inspiration to misuse weapons (and cars, and women, and animals etc.), i.e. movies and cable?
Once again, liberals create a problem, then take our money and restrict our freedoms and rights to put a “BandAid” on it, creating new tax systems and bureaucracies to keep us from hurting ourselves (and accumulating more power and wealth for themselves, of course).
Gee, thanks.