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Can a caliphate school keep teaching on Virginia’s public land? Congressional candidate voted yes. Update: Take a poll!

By see-dubya  •  June 12, 2008 02:35 AM

It’s a private school that gets its money from Saudi Arabia, so they can teach whatever they want, right? And if they’re not state-supported, they’re free to use Saudi textbooks that teach stuff like this:

The authors of a 12th-grade text on Quranic interpretation state that apostates (those who convert from Islam), adulterers and people who murder Muslims can be permissibly killed.

More generally, the panel found that the academy textbooks hold the view that the Muslim world was strong when united under a single caliph, the Arabic language and the Sunni creed, and that Muslims have grown weak because of foreign influence and internal divisions.

Well, there’s a wrinkle: it’s a private school, but it’s leasing its land from Fairfax County, Virginia. A month ago Fairfax County’s Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to renew the school’s lease.

I italicized “unanimously” because that means the Chairman of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors must have voted for it, and he’s already on my list. His name is Gerry Connolly and as I noted the other day, he wants to keep Fairfax County a welcoming sanctuary for illegal aliens.

And he’s running for Congress, as a Democrat.

Connolly won his primary on Tuesday, and he’ll face Republican Keith Fimian in the general election. I expect the sterling judgment Connolly showed in approving the lease of public land to Wahhabi High will be an issue in the campaign.
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If he gets called on it, Connolly can always try saying “Hey, it could be worse. Look at Britain!
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UPDATE: LGF links to an MSNBC poll asking whether you think the school should be closed, the textbooks should be amended, or it should be left open because “one way to teach tolerance is to show tolerance”.

Right now common sense is prevailing–in the poll, if not in Northern Virginia–but you can click through and help make it a landslide.

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  1. #1
    On June 12th, 2008 at 2:40 am, love2rumba said:

    See-Dubya Said:

    I italicized “unanimously” because that means the Chairman of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors must have voted for it, and he’s already on my list. His name is Gerry Connolly and he wants to keep Fairfax County a welcoming sanctuary for illegal aliens.

    This is utter insanity.

  2. #2
    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:05 am, txvet2 said:

    On June 12th, 2008 at 2:40 am, love2rumba said:

    This is utter insanity.

    Actually, it’s liberalism, at least in its modern form.

  3. #3
    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:36 am, Snooper said:

    This is entirely unacceptable, plain and simple.

  4. #4
    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:47 am, Truesoldier said:

    I doubt that it will come up. If it does this Dem will just twist it and spin it into a republican being against private schools and the MSM will report only that.

  5. #5
    On June 12th, 2008 at 4:46 am, graysonret said:

    A county approved “anti-American” school. Glad I moved from that county. The insanity continues….

  6. #6
    On June 12th, 2008 at 4:48 am, Grape Ape said:

    since they let this happen, is it un-Christian to hope that the Board of Supervisors are the first ones to get their heads hacked off or bombed before the “youths” (European term for Islamic extremists) come gunning for the rest of us ?

    Cue the “Merry Go ‘Round Broke Down” music because America is getting to be a Looney Tunes cartoon.

  7. #7
    On June 12th, 2008 at 4:56 am, tbear44 said:

    A month ago Fairfax County’s Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to renew the school’s lease.

    Idiots!

  8. #8
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:05 am, WarTip said:

    Of course it should be okay. How else are we going to destroy the great satan from within?

    What it does cause me to wonder about … is how this would impact B. Hussein Obama. If he grew up as a Muslim (as per his book, not my accusation) and “converted” to black liberation theology after he met MO, does that make him an apostate that would be covered under this decree by the religion of peace?

    Or perhaps he is viewed as a true muslim who is using the tactics of deceit encouraged by islamic radicals in order to subvert our culture even further and advance the causes of sharia law within our nation’s courts and society?

    Far fetched? Just wondering because of what he said in his book and the many claims that he speaks arabic fluently … at least as far as being able to quote verses of the koran.

    Ahhhhhh, the points to ponder this election cycle.

  9. #9
    On June 12th, 2008 at 6:38 am, conservativesRus said:

    It is amazing to me how ignorant many can be. If you are not a muslim, you are an infidel. Infidels deserve to die. The muslim who sends you to hell early, gets bonus points.

  10. #10
    On June 12th, 2008 at 6:46 am, conservativesRus said:

    Wartip #8: I’ve said all along that Obama is in fact still a Muslim - if he were not, then why is there not a fatwah on his head?
    Remember, one of the “approved islamic tactics” is to masquerade as something else in order to win their war.
    For those inclined to have a Biblical worldview, this should not be surprising since satan masquerades as an angel of light, so will his servants. (II Cor 11: 14,15)

  11. #11
    On June 12th, 2008 at 6:55 am, Die Hippie, Die said:

    There’s a high probability it gets worse when Wahhabi High grads receive affirmative action admissions and scholarships to universities, squeezing out better qualified Americans.

    Screw diversity.

  12. #12
    On June 12th, 2008 at 7:14 am, rbb said:

    Why did they do it? I can think of 2 million plus reasons…

  13. #13
    On June 12th, 2008 at 7:24 am, olblueyes said:

    This is utter insanity.

    The fact that the Republican candidate probably won’t bring it up during the campaign is the most insane part. As long as we keep our mouths zipped and hands tied what else can we expect to happen…?

    Republican candidates need to grow a spine and start calling the dems out on this stuff. Until they do, brace yourselves for the downward spiral!

  14. #14
    On June 12th, 2008 at 7:35 am, DJM said:

    conservativesRus #10:

    You are correct on that islamic tactic, but I’d have to disagree on your comment about Obama. It would require quite a vast conspiracy among all muslims to help conceal and protect an Obama muslim identity.

    A better theory, imho, is that muslims support Obama simply because he, whether intentionally or ignorantly, would further their cause to strengthen islam’s presence in the West.

    A weak leader like Obama would result in more legal attacks against and imprisonment for “islamophobics,” while protecting the rights and special privileges for the muslim minority.

  15. #15
    On June 12th, 2008 at 8:13 am, WORK949 said:

    What these “useful idiots”, like this Connolly, fail to see is what is down the road for them if or when the Muslims they enable with votes such as this one come to power.

    Either he’s going to convert to Islam, pay the jizyah and live as an untermensch, or he’s going to get his head sliced off.

    We’re doomed.

  16. #16
    On June 12th, 2008 at 8:21 am, Boomer said:

    I sure feel sorry for the few legal American citizens unable to flee Fairfax County, VA. You have a potential Congress critter selling you out while giving aid and comfort to illegal invaders and if that isn’t bad enough he is leasing public land to members of the Religion of Pieces. Where the heck is the ACLU clamoring about separation of church and state? Oh! That’s right they only go after Christians and Jews. The Republican candidate has two major talking points that should make it impossible in a just society for Connolly to win this election, but from what I have observed in this country over the last couple decade’s justice is only allowed for those that would betray this country and all it stands for.

  17. #17
    On June 12th, 2008 at 8:23 am, abstractmind said:

    Why does none of this cause me any surprise?

    This is just another example of letting the enemy into our homes and letting them destroy things from the inside.

  18. #18
    On June 12th, 2008 at 8:37 am, henryinga said:

    This country is being converted to Muslim every day and the lemmings, Republicans, Democrats, and Independents, are too blind, stupid or both to see it. You can bet your bottom dollar Barack Hussein Obama will be voted in by thse fools who want “change.”
    They’ll get “change”, but not the change they wanted and they’ll rue their votes for the rest of their lives. The sad part is that those of us who will vote against B. Hussein will suffer as well.

  19. #19
    On June 12th, 2008 at 8:49 am, cpodug said:

    see-dub, it’s not just the private schools that are teaching this trash. Public schools are also indoctrinating their students.

  20. #20
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:02 am, spo-con said:

    Yet another example of white Liberal guilt complex at work. Sell out your country to those who would destroy it. And for what ? I wish puss boys like Connolly would just move to the Middle East and see what totalitarian rule REALLY gets ya. And take our troll/pothead LGM with him. I’m sure these two losers would have lots to talk, no, take that back, BITCH about.

  21. #21
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:08 am, ex-expat said:

    What I found interesting was the WaPos ‘endorsement of Conolly -it strick me as a ‘hold your nose and vote for him’ endorsement. I do not see the Republican candiate as being very strong or visible. Rep. Davis chose a bad time to retire.

  22. #22
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:13 am, WarEagle82 said:
    What I found interesting was the WaPos ‘endorsement of Conolly -it strick me as a ‘hold your nose and vote for him’ endorsement. I do not see the Republican candiate as being very strong or visible. Rep. Davis chose a bad time to retire.

    Tom Davis should have retired years ago. He is the essence of the RINO problem in the GOP. Fimian has more money raised than all the Democrat contenders and I think the man will campaign and govern as a conservative.

    Good riddance, Mr. Tom “RINO” Davis.

  23. #23
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:14 am, englishqueen01 said:

    And didn’t some Democrats in DC recently vow to kill school choice because they don’t want taxpayer dollars going to private (read: Christian) schools?

    The sad part is that those of us who will vote against B. Hussein will suffer as well.

    Yep. But - given the other thread - it will be interesting to see how Michelle Obama and all the liberal, feminist women out there fair under shari’a law.

    Quite frankly, they’ll get exactly what they deserve.

  24. #24
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:30 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Well we do want only the best Wahhabi High grads to impose the Sharia don’t we? I mean how ugly would it be if we had ignorant Wahhabist imposing Sharia?
    And perhaps Gerry Connolly can get 36 or 18 virgins.

    Have a nice Jihad
    Death to America
    Wash your neck one last time

  25. #25
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:41 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    County sponsored suicide…brilliant!

    *sigh* But I guess it doesn’t shock me that a Demoncrat running for Congress would be the one behind the scenes letting this insanity happen.

    I sure am excited to see all those 12th graders who are learning that it is okay to murder adulterers and those who leave Islam aren’t you? /sarc

  26. #26
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:47 am, englishqueen01 said:

    I sure am excited to see all those 12th graders who are learning that it is okay to murder adulterers and those who leave Islam aren’t you?

    Don’t forget homosexuals, Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslims.

    It would be interesting to see how these lessons fit within the sex-ed curriculum of most public schools. Something tells me it’ll be haram to teach kids how to put a condom on a banana, or about oral sex…

  27. #27
    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:50 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    It would be interesting to see how these lessons fit within the sex-ed curriculum of most public schools. Something tells me it’ll be haram to teach kids how to put a condom on a banana, or about oral sex…

    Indeed, where is Rusty when you need him to shout out about children not learning about sex ed? He should volunteer at that school so they can all be properly educated, that should go over like a ton of bricks (being thrown at him by the students but who’s keeping track).

  28. #28
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:00 am, geminicontender said:

    Can we check and see how many home loans this man has defaulted on. He is running for Congress so that tells you he is already ‘crooked’.

  29. #29
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:08 am, lgm said:

    they’re free to use Saudi textbooks that teach stuff like this:

    And so is everyone else. MM didn’t say whether they actually use them, or whether it’s just the possibility that has her fuming this morning.

    More questions: “that gets its money from Saudi Arabia” — that gets all it’s money from Saudi Arabia i.e. doesn’t charge tuition? Or that has maybe gotten some money sometime in the past?

    Think how MM could describe an orthodox Jewish high school that get’s it’s money from the Zionist occupying entity and is free to use textbooks that say that the Torah prescribes death as the punishment for adultery (it does, but Rabbis have been walking back from this for thousands of years). The Jews were a mighty people under King David but because weak because they did what was displeasing to G-d. But a mighty general (Messiah) will unify the Jews again and lead them in a great war that will establish them as the mightiest of nations.

  30. #30
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:11 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Reading, writing and arithmetic are incrementally being replaced with acceptance, tolerance and other such pc madness. They are not getting their mitts on my little ones.

  31. #31
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:17 am, cea1940 said:

    I would be curious to know if these people have any issues with public land/leases and the boy scouts as they do in Philadelphia

  32. #32
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:22 am, spo-con said:

    Oh crap, I see the Bong Hit Kid is up and about.

  33. #33
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:23 am, abstractmind said:

    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:08 am, lgm said:
    they’re free to use Saudi textbooks that teach stuff like this:

    And so is everyone else. MM didn’t say whether they actually use them, or whether it’s just the possibility that has her fuming this morning.

    More questions: “that gets its money from Saudi Arabia” — that gets all it’s money from Saudi Arabia i.e. doesn’t charge tuition? Or that has maybe gotten some money sometime in the past?

    Think how MM could describe an orthodox Jewish high school that get’s it’s money from the Zionist occupying entity and is free to use textbooks that say that the Torah prescribes death as the punishment for adultery (it does, but Rabbis have been walking back from this for thousands of years). The Jews were a mighty people under King David but because weak because they did what was displeasing to G-d. But a mighty general (Messiah) will unify the Jews again and lead them in a great war that will establish them as the mightiest of nations.

    just 1 question.

    please compare the amount of honor killings perpetrated in the last…well, i’ll even go long on this…10 years, as compared to stonings by jews on adulterers.

    Deciding that a doctrine that is 2000+ years old and doesnt fit with society, law, or really promote anyone to be more morally minded isn’t really backpeddling. The philosophy has changed with the times.

    Fundamental Islam, however…yeah, not so much.

    I’ll wait for those numbers (and the statement that teaching people its OK to murder others for the sake their religion is something BLATANTLY wrong) from you.

    and that’s 15 times.

  34. #34
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:24 am, abstractmind said:

    sorry, was in a hurry to finish.
    question is: how do those numbers compare? And how do you think we should address the issue of hate filled books like these?

  35. #35
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am, Gabe said:

    The Saudi Academy has been there forever, and it schools many very wealthy Arab children. I wonder how much they have given to Connolly’s campaign.

    Gerry Connolly is a Boston born and raised liberal who moved to Fairfax County, a very wealthy county thanks to REPUBLICAN leadership during the 1980s.

    It is always the same. Republicans build up the County, causing many liberals from the New England to move there. Immigrants from around the world move to take advantage of the economic boom. Then they vote like they always have. . .liberal, which has caused all their problems from they came from.

    I live in Fairfax County. The supervisor of my district is Pat Herrity who ran as a conservative Republican. And he voting to renew the lease?! This is craziness.

    Please contact him to tell him what you think: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/springfield/bio.htm

  36. #36
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:27 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    I don’t see any Jews stoning people for adultery in this day and age… do you lgm?

    I could link you thousands of articles of Muslims stoning people or hanging people or lopping off their heads for: adultery, leaving Islam, being Christian in an Islamic run country, being homosexual, or being a Jew in an Islamic run country.

    And Muslims continue to do this on a near daily basis. Your argument was your usual weak attempt at a moral equivalence that isn’t there. It’s an apples to oranges example and you are smart enough to know that but chose to spin it your way so you can pawn this off as an overblown story. Maybe when your being stoned to death for being Jewish and not coverting to Islam you might have a different take on it.

  37. #37
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:28 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    I see abstractmind was on the case well ahead of me :P

  38. #38
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:29 am, abstractmind said:

    didnt mean to steal your thunder boss, sorry :)

  39. #39
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:30 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    Hehe, no thunder to steal, just pointing out the obvious like you with lgm’s weak argument.

  40. #40
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:34 am, DaveC said:

    LGM

    project much?

    Zionist occupying entity = Israel.. right? and they helped Bush bring down the towers.. Right…..

    Point out to any other school that has such free reign with it’s curriculum (go ahead, post it.. I’m sure you can find one and give the .edu website.. ) as a wahabbi high school.

    I said before.. you are worse than a pigeon on a statue.. you come in, squat, drop and leave without proving anything.

    you prove yourself to be a moron by saying that Karl Rove masterminded the rigging of elections by getting minorities in the getto to vote on a Wednesday instead of the Tuesday..

    and to top if off, this was posted by See-W… not MM.. read closer.. no wonder why you ‘teach’ gym rather than English..

  41. #41
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:36 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    lgm, go pound sand.

  42. #42
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:36 am, DaveC said:

    AlaskanGrizzly and Abstractmind..

    thanks for being a faster typist..

    I had to re-edit it quite a bit in order for the post NOT to be deleted..

  43. #43
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:37 am, md1964 said:

    Pieces of America are being carved off…and consumed by the enemies of America.

    If I remember my history…I think we had a Civil War a couple years ago….because parts of the country overwhelmingly decided to seceed from the Union and make their own rules… are we going to relive that bitter part of history?? camps.

  44. #44
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:41 am, abstractmind said:

    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:30 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    hehe…well, i’m used to having to dumb it down, because i teach children :) pointing out the obvious sometimes is all part of it ;)

  45. #45
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:43 am, shortbeachUSMC said:

    lgm, you are a piece of work and should get your head out of your rear end. Some of the fanatical teachings of this so called religion of peace is so far in the dark ages it is ridiculous and has no place in our society. The question presented to you was how many jews have been stoned for adultery? Why just last month a teenage girl was killed by her brother for being “too western” and prior to that her father beat her repeatedly for not being a good muslim. Do you condone this? sure sounds like it.

  46. #46
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:43 am, DaveC said:

    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:37 am, md1964 said:

    If I remember my history…I think we had a Civil War War of Northern Aggression a couple years ago…

    Just moved to VA (south of Richmond, not Fairfax) so I had to correct that for you :)

  47. #47
    On June 12th, 2008 at 11:00 am, spo-con said:

    Say, does anyone have a photo of a troll wearing a burqa ? Ya know what I’m thinkin’…………

  48. #48
    On June 12th, 2008 at 11:04 am, WestCoastCoconut said:

    If he gets called on it, Connolly can always try saying “Hey, it could be worse. Look at Britain!”

    Bishop says collapse of Christianity is wrecking British society - and Islam
    is filling the void.

    It is just a matter of time.

  49. #49
    On June 12th, 2008 at 11:10 am, cousin vinnie said:

    Would we allow a school to seize upon some old testament doctrine like “an eye for an eye” and teach that abortion doctors can be killed because they kill? Even if such a school were entirely supported by foreign money?

    Most states have laws against encouraging or inducing others to commit felonies. They should be talking about closing down these schools, not merely evicting them from public land.

  50. #50
    On June 12th, 2008 at 11:15 am, nuss said:

    Leasing land in America to facilitate the teaching of hatred for America. It doesn’t get much dumber than this.

  51. #51
    On June 12th, 2008 at 11:25 am, pueblo1032 said:

    All we hear from MSM, when Wahhabi schools in SAUDI ARABIA are exposed for what they are is a bunch of OOOOOOSSs and AAAHHHs and HOW TERRIBLEs, Now we have one exposed in this country, and STRANGELY SILENT. Hell we are being MARCHED to the SLAUGHTER and WE are HELPING THEM… Why, soon we may even ELECT a MUSLIM POTUS. MUSLIM you ask??? What MUSLIM??? B. HUSSEIN I say. You heard “there is no such thing as an EX MARINE”. Well there is no such thing as an EX MUSLIM either… Let’s go LEMMINGS, just keep MARCHING….

  52. #52
    On June 12th, 2008 at 11:49 am, Yiddish Steel said:

    Gerry Connolly: Scum-bag.

  53. #53
    On June 12th, 2008 at 11:51 am, Desert Rat said:

    So this school is teaching that B.O. may permissably killed because he is an apostate? Will the ACLU defend such a person if they were to succeed? Should that individual be tried under Sharia Law (obvious to be found not-guilty)?

    Were rolling down the slippery slope, where will it end?

  54. #54
    On June 12th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, jwm said:

    Welcome to Beirut ahh I mean the United States where Catholics have to form their own militias to keep our churches from being bombed. Thank you politicians and academics for turning our country into a wasteland while you are fiddliing in Congress about how to split up the pork, oh right, pork is no longer allowed under Sharia law.

  55. #55
    On June 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, misterbee241 said:

    On June 12th, 2008 at 9:08 am, ex-expat said:

    What I found interesting was the WaPos ‘endorsement of Conolly -it strick me as a ‘hold your nose and vote for him’ endorsement. I do not see the Republican candiate as being very strong or visible.

    There’s no such thing as a true Republican in NoVA. If he or she is a Republican from that part of the state and is holding office as a Republican you can bet they are RINO’s. WaPo backed Conolly because he’s a socialist democrat, however detestable he might be, he’s not a Republican.
    I’ve been saying for years that counties south of Fairfax and Prince William ought to secede and form a new state like West Virginia did.
    Btw - I wonder if Fairfax would have leased to a Christian school? Most likely not.

  56. #56
    On June 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, abstractmind said:

    I was over ready LFG, where i also at times post comments (much less lately since i’m here alot, but..) and found this on the end of their article:

    UPDATE at 6/12/08 8:59:10 am:

    Unbelievably, at MSNBC a poll asks whether the school should be allowed to stay open, and 13% answer “Yes. One way to teach tolerance is to show tolerance.”

    What the hell is wrong with these people? I think it might be a good idea for lizards to cast their votes in this poll too: Vote: Should this school be allowed to stay open? - Education- msnbc.com.

    Hey…at least its only 13% of people who want us to be nice to people who are mandated to kill us. And I’m willing to bet most of them are within a 10 mile radius of Berkley, CA.

  57. #57
    On June 12th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, ex-expat said:

    Tom Davis should have retired years ago. He is the essence of the RINO problem in the GOP. Fimian has more money raised than all the Democrat contenders and I think the man will campaign and govern as a conservative

    RINO or not, I would rather have Tom Davis representing me in Congress than Connolly, which I see happening in November.

  58. #58
    On June 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, see-dubya said:

    Thanks, Abstractmind…I added a link to the poll.

  59. #59
    On June 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Bishop says collapse of Christianity is wrecking British society - and Islam
    is filling the void.

    Yep. Nature abhors a vacuum. You eschew Christianity (or God in general) and you’re going to accept (willingly or by force) something else.

    Usually far worse.

    But, obviously, liberals have no problem with that because, hey, at least it’s not Christianity, right?

  60. #60
    On June 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, ex-expat said:

    I’ve been saying for years that counties south of Fairfax and Prince William ought to secede and form a new state like West Virginia did.

    That comment reminds me of what my next door neighbor, now deceased, said to me shortly after we moved in: ‘Son, this (Fairfax Co.) is NOT Virginia. You’ve got to go past Fredricksburg for that.’

  61. #61
    On June 12th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, letget said:

    Voted. Hope they get many more to vote. I’m having a real problem with muslims today (gitmo) and now this.
    L

  62. #62
    On June 12th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, erikwhittington said:

    Close it now

  63. #63
    On June 12th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, lgm said:

    Does anyone know anything specific about this school? What is their actual curriculum? Where does their funding come from?

    Or is enough just that they’re MOOOSLIM and AERAAAB?

  64. #64
    On June 12th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, DaveC said:

    obviously it’s enough for you to take them at their word, lgm..

  65. #65
    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:04 pm, supersean said:

    I have to say that this article has surprised me a bit as I would have thought that phrasing cited by Michelle in her post would not be covered by first amendment protections.

    Michelle/See-Dubya can you post more details including excerpts of the passages mentioned?

  66. #66
    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    they’re free to use Saudi textbooks that teach stuff like this:

    And so is everyone else. MM didn’t say whether they actually use them, or whether it’s just the possibility that has her fuming this morning.

    That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Yeah, they are going to get the books and not use them. That’s pretty funny, LGM, especially since we know if this were a Christian school you’d be fuming at the ACLU to start filing lawsuits.

    Face it, the left is too scared of belligerent Muslim men to take them head-on, and that is secularism will take a huge blow this century.

    More questions: “that gets its money from Saudi Arabia” — that gets all it’s money from Saudi Arabia i.e. doesn’t charge tuition? Or that has maybe gotten some money sometime in the past?

    If it was in the past, it wouldn’t be showing up in recent press articles even in your precious MSM.

    We all know that you support radical Islam, LGM, but please stop will all the accusations against Mrs. Malkin. She’s doing her job.

    Speaking of which, do you even have one of those?

    Think how MM could describe an orthodox Jewish high school that get’s it’s money from the Zionist occupying entity and is free to use textbooks that say that the Torah prescribes death as the punishment for adultery (it does, but Rabbis have been walking back from this for thousands of years). The Jews were a mighty people under King David but because weak because they did what was displeasing to G-d. But a mighty general (Messiah) will unify the Jews again and lead them in a great war that will establish them as the mightiest of nations.

    The differences are as follows:

    1) Jews don’t want to take over the world or subdue everyone else under Judaism. In fact, converting to Judaism is a chore in and of it self.

    2) If you know of a case like this, then by all means share it. Because as far I as can tell, Islam is the only religion where violence is acceptable for it to spread.

  67. #67
    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, Mark Jaquith said:

    Why does the state own this land? If it isn’t going to use if for lawful and necessary governmental purposes, it should sell it and refund the money to the taxpayers. If the school wants it, it can buy it. It’s only a conundrum because the land shouldn’t be controlled by the government in the first place.

  68. #68
    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, abstractmind said:

    LGM,

    here ya go buddy.

    This is the website of the school itself.

    This is what the school teaches, as listed on their website.

    I would point out a few things around their site.

    First, scroll down the page on the second link. Everything is in a standard print size.

    Everything except their informative paragraph about English.

    On their “About Us” page, referencing the first paragraph, bolding from me:

    The Islamic Saudi Academy was founded in 1984 as a bilingual English-Arabic school with a dual American and Middle Eastern curriculum. The academy has two campuses, with Pre-K - 1st grade at the campus in Fairfax VA and grades 2-12 at the main campus in Alexandria, VA. The Alexandria campus is divided into Girls’ and Boys’ Schools. Girls and boys attend class together in second grade and are separated in third grade. The school day runs from 8:00 until 3:00 and is broken into eight fifty minute periods, including one period for lunch and prayer.

    do that in any other school and watch the ACLU eat their lunch.

    Unfortunately, there’s more, but my time is running out for the day.

    You can read the website, read the news article from the AP (linked from the LGF above, and you’re welcome CW), and draw your own conclusion.

  69. #69
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, atheling said:

    On June 12th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, abstractmind said:

    LGM,

    …You can read the website, read the news article from the AP (linked from the LGF above, and you’re welcome CW), and draw your own conclusion.

    Well that was an exercise in futility.

  70. #70
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, lgm said:

    abstractmind (#68). I followed the links you gave & found nothing bad about the school. Certainly nothing about training tots for murderous jihad. I also found this:

    ISA not only promotes respect and mutual understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims, Arabs and Americans while keeping within the Muslim faith, it strives for its staff and students to uphold tolerance, honesty, integrity and compassion, qualities that represent the best of both American and Arabic cultures.

    The bottom line is that nobody on this list, including MM, knows what’s in the textbooks in this school. If it came from the left, it would be called a hate driven fantasy.

    As for orthodox Jewish education, everything I wrote is true. It’s all in Isaiah and Jeremiah. The Messiah is to be a great general who will subjugate the peoples “from the Nile to the Euphrates” (i.e. the known civilized world).

  71. #71
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, atheling said:

    See, I told you so.

  72. #72
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, graysonret said:

    Since they teach that people who convert away from Islam are grounds to have them killed…and, since Obama’s father was Moslem, making Obama a Moslem by their law…and, since he left the religion and “converted” by their standards…that means they are teaching the children to kill a Presidental candidate, or even, possibly, a President. So, Fairfax County, you are endorsing teaching children to kill Obama. Nice going. How do you justify that?

  73. #73
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, atheling said:

    Here is the link and excerpts from the USCIRF investigation:

    http://www.uscirf.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2206&Itemid=1

    Examples of Problematic Passages in Current ISA Textbooks

    The most problematic texts involve passages that are not directly from the Koran but rather contain the Saudi government’s particular interpretation of Koranic and other Islamic texts. Some passages clearly exhort the readers to commit acts of violence, as can be seen in the following two examples:

    In a twelfth-grade Tafsir (Koranic interpretation) textbook, the authors state that it is permissible for a Muslim to kill an apostate (a convert from Islam), an adulterer, or someone who has murdered a believer intentionally: “He (praised is He) prohibits killing the soul that God has forbidden (to kill) unless for just cause…” Just cause is then defined in the text as “unbelief after belief, adultery, and killing an inviolable believer intentionally.” (Tafsir, Arabic/Sharia, 123)

    A twelfth-grade Tawhid (monotheism) textbook states that “[m]ajor polytheism makes blood and wealth permissible,” which in Islamic legal terms means that a Muslim can take the life and property of someone believed to be guilty of this alleged transgression with impunity. (Tawhid, Arabic/Sharia, 15) Under the Saudi interpretation of Islam, “major polytheists” include Shi’a and Sufi Muslims, who visit the shrines of their saints to ask for intercession with God on their behalf, as well as Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists.

    Furthermore:

    Although this Koranic passage does not in itself invoke the term jihad, the Saudi textbook authors write:

    “In these verses is a call for jihad, which is the pinnacle of Islam. In (jihad) is life for the body; thus it is one of the most important causes of outward life. Only through force and victory over the enemies is there security and repose. Within martyrdom in the path of God (exalted and glorified is He) is a type of noble life-force that is not diminished by fear or poverty.” (Tafsir, Arabic/Sharia, 68)

    (Emphasis mine).

    Little girly man:

    See anything wrong here?

  74. #74
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    lgm doesn’t respond to facts and investigations. Just his kooky theories and apples to oranges comparisons.

  75. #75
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:36 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    He also doesn’t respond to the tens of thousands of murders we can provide factual evidence for that were committed for the very reasons listed in those 12th grade textbooks.

    But they have a disclaimer on their website saying they love everybody so that is enough for lgm and the rest of his ilk.

  76. #76
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, lgm said:

    graysonret said (#72):

    Since they teach that people who convert away from Islam are grounds to have them killed…and, since Obama’s father was Moslem,

    This nutball idea was printed in the Op/Ed section of the NYTimes (liberal propaganda?). Muslim scholars from around the world have said that Edwin Litwak doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    atheling said (#73):

    Here is the link and excerpts from the USCIRF investigation:

    Examples of Problematic Passages in Current ISA Textbooks

    The most problematic texts involve passages that are not directly from the Koran but rather contain the Saudi government’s particular interpretation of Koranic and other Islamic texts. Some passages clearly exhort the readers to commit acts of violence, as can be seen in the following two examples:…

    Once again I question the accuracy of these reports, given their source and content. The State Department is trying to figure out what text is used in a school just across the river, so instead of picking up the phone or driving down, they make a fact finding trip to Saudi Arabia.

    And you would have to know the context: any male child getting an orthodox Jewish education would learn that death is the punishment for adultery. But they also would learn (in a different class, on Talmud) that this is never enforced. If the Bushies were huffing and puffing, they would forget to report the second part.

  77. #77
    On June 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Once again I question the accuracy of these reports

    Of course you do, you’re a consistent liar and spin-master. It goes against your agenda so of course you are going to question this government probe. If it was a government probe into Bush you would be praising it as gold.

    But they also would learn (in a different class, on Talmud) that this is never enforced.

    The muslims are obviously being taught this is never enforced, I mean it’s not like we have thousands of people being stoned to death or beheaded or hung by Muslims for being gay or Christian or Jewish or leaving Islam. /sarc

  78. #78
    On June 12th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Here is the list of books the State Department used in their findings. Read those textbooks for me lgm and let me know if you find the passages in question in those textbooks. kk thx.

    APPENDIX Islamic Saudi Academy Arabic-Language Textbooks Reviewed by the Commission

    Monotheism (Tawhid), Twelfth Grade, Administrative, Social, Natural, and Technical Sciences Track

    Monotheism (Tawhid), Twelfth Grade, Sharia and Arabic Sciences Track

    Interpretation (Tafsir), Twelfth Grade, Sharia and Arabic Sciences Track

    Interpretation (Tafsir), Twelfth Grade, Administrative, Social, Natural, and Technical Sciences Track

    Hadith and Islamic Culture, Twelfth Grade, Administrative, Social, Natural, and Technical Sciences Track

    Hadith and Islamic Culture, Twelfth Grade, Sharia and Arabic Sciences Track

    Jurisprudence (Fiqh), Twelfth Grade, Natural Sciences Track

    Jurisprudence (Fiqh), Twelfth Grade, Sharia and Arabic Sciences Track

    The History of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Twelfth Grade, Natural Sciences Track

    Sociology, Twelfth Grade, Sharia and Arabic Sciences Track

    Studies from the Islamic World, Twelfth Grade, Administrative, Social, Natural, and Technical Sciences Track

    Hadith, Seventh Grade

    Hadith, Ninth Grade

    Jurisprudence (Fiqh), Ninth Grade

    Jurisprudence (Fiqh), Tenth Grade

    Aspects of Muslim Political and Cultural History, Eleventh Grade, Administrative and Social Track, Sharia and Arabic Track

    History of the Prophets, the Prophet’s Biography, and the Spread of Islam, Tenth Grade

  79. #79
    On June 12th, 2008 at 6:50 pm, atheling said:

    Is there anything more obtuse than a leftard like little girly man?

    Do you have rocks for brains, lgm?

    You are not only a liar, but you are a thief. All liars are thieves, because they steal trust.

  80. #80
    On June 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm, shooter said:

    UPDATEd
    Should an Islamic school be allowed to lease county property while using textbooks that teach intolerance? * 15163 responses
    No way. The school should be shut down immediately.
    70%
    Yes. One way to teach tolerance is to show tolerance.
    11%
    The school should be forced to select new textbooks or lose its lease.
    18%

  81. #81
    On June 13th, 2008 at 8:09 am, abstractmind said:

    lgm,

    i read your reply this morning.

    You’re comparing a 2000+ year old text…to one thats CURRENTLY in print and is being passed to school children.

    Dont you see a distinction?

    If orthodox jews were teaching this in modern schools, that as this one are on state owned property, they’d be shut down and condemned by everyone. I dont see this being the case.

    BTW, to refute something else you’ve said. Whether or not the man in question knows what he’s talking about or not, apostacy is a crime punishable by death in the Middle East.
    Examples:

    Here’s one from our own hostess’ site.

    How about this?

    And here’s another.

    I could do this for hours.
    So lgm…is this the type of ideology you support?

  82. #82
    On June 13th, 2008 at 10:05 am, nyc123me said:

    Surely it is illegal to teach children that it is ok to murder?

  83. #83
    On June 13th, 2008 at 11:11 am, atheling said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 10:05 am, nyc123me said:

    Surely it is illegal to teach children that it is ok to murder?

    Apparently lobotomized girly man thinks so.

  84. #84
    On June 13th, 2008 at 11:40 pm, DaveC said:

    Atheling and AKGrizz..

    Little girly man , low gray matter, Lobotomized girly man..

    you can tackle lgm and hold him outside and tape his eyelids open toward the sky and scream in his ear that the sky is blue.. but he still would doubt you..

  85. #85
    On June 14th, 2008 at 12:36 am, atheling said:

    DaveC:

    Yup, it’s called invincible ignorance.

  86. #86
    On June 15th, 2008 at 10:10 am, sfcmac said:

    The Saudis are NOT our friends. This Wahabi madrass should be shut down immediately.
    What is wrong with this country when we allow hostile entities to operate within our own borders, call for ‘death to America’ and indoctrinate children for that purpose? You can bet your ass this curriculum is being re-enforced at home. Hello? Department of Homeland Security? FBI? Where the hell are you?

    Attention, Hyland and the Islamothugs: This is my country, and I not only refuse to cede it to the likes of you, but I will fight tooth and nail to stop your campaign of Caliphication.

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