Good news! Gasoline supply to be increased, with seven new refineries!
Bad news! They’re in Iran.
A senior Iranian official said the refineries would increase capacity by more than 1.5 million barrels per day and end gasoline imports.
The official said all seven refineries would begin operations by 2012.
If they don’t need to import gasoline, then I’m guessing the “we’ll embargo sales of gasoline” plan I discussed here will be pretty much moot. It might put some near-term pressure on them but unless all these new refineries are sabotaged or destroyed, there won’t be much leverage left there.
So, back to the drawing board.
Don’t say I’ve never said anything nice about the mullahs: Iran recognizes a strategic vulnerability, and they do something about it. Unlike our own unclued caribou-smooching clownshow.
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Cave dwelling backwards 7th century thinking idiots can figure this out but the democratic congress and the hard left in america can’t. Go figure.
…. I knew there was some bad news ….
Iran doesn’t have to put up with the greene’s, carbon foot print idiots, global warming idiots, our elected getting their wallets fattened to stop drilling and building refineries like we do. They just do it. We need to just do it!
L
Email sent to office liberals who are complaining about the high cost of fuel. Sorry if it is long.
We are supposedly the most powerful and wealthiest nation on Earth and yet we are the only nation on the planet (including those idiots running Iran) that can’t figure out how to protect ourselves by using our own resources. Un-freaking believable.
Every time you have “Good news” on top of a story I know you are going to have a “Bad news” when I read the actual piece. Would you quit that already? I like my good news to be pure good news- God knows we don’t see enough of it these days. Or put Good news/Bad news so I don’t get my hopes up again…
The top of the leftist agenda is primarily immune to any economic backlash as they are the rich.
They are willing to pretend to give a little more in cost to grab a lot more in power.
There plan is to contimue to turn up the heat on an economic war against the american citizen. Then when they have us begging government for relief they will have us where they want us.
Of course they will never do anything to help you. You will have simply turned complete control of your life over to them. They will tell you where to live, what to eat, how high your thermostat can be, etc..
And they and their friends will enrich themselves beyond belief. It will work for a while, but not forever as freedom will not be denied.
Every fews generations free thinking men and women must decide whether or not the costs are too high. And clearly the liberals costs which they seek to impose are too high for real patriots.
Lets see iran will build 7 in 4 years and we MAY build 1 in 10 years. If just one of our refineries has to close even for a refit, gas prices go up. HELLOOOOOOOO IS ANYBODY IN WASHINGTON DC LISTENING????? ANYONE????
sonofdy, I think you hit the nail on the head. Plus, if Barry-O’s POTUS, our current refineries will be easier to access as prime terrorist targets as well.
Why would a liberal democrat in Washington care what the cost of gas is?
They are immune to the cost of fuel. They travel at taxpayer expense and are guaranted re-election by their liberal base.
Republicans only for the most part every go after other republicans and thus further weaken our own base.
It is so hard to get Republicans to understand the dems have to go first.
Till we fight every democrat held seat in every district, we will continue to lose. Even then it is no guarantee we will prevail. But if the battle is too difficult for anyone, go ahead and vote democrat. Because a vote not cast is a vote for them.
The Democrats are still in that “It won’t help in the short term so let’s don’t do it” mentality. Freaking useless idiots.
Thing is it will help in the short term, not much but it will help. But the DNC Idea was to increase costs with a tax. Dumbasses.
Hmm…Gollygee, I thought the Iranians needed their nuclear facilities just for peaceful purposes like power plants.
Great point though. Now, if BHO becomes POTUS, he will pull apart our military while Iran amps their’s up.
…and there are still Democrats – WHY?
Maxine better start taking over the business!
Sarc\
Because we send our children to schools littered with socialist to indoctrinate them.
We then tell our children how underpaid these same socialist are.
We then tell our kids that teachers are the backbone of America.
And then we wonder why there are so many liberals?
Come on!
and for sonofdy too
We havent built a new refinery in 30 years or so. I’m not holding my breath, unless that one in south dakota gets off the ground.
Unreal. That there are legions out there who value the uninterrupted sex-lives of Caribou prancing out a frozen desert over the sweat and blood of a U.S. solider in a thankless hostile one!
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Check out my post #4 and don’t hold your breath.
You left out the hippies, the smelly hippies!
I’m sure when BO has a little sit down with the nut job over there he’ll open up his eyes to the fact that looking that far ahead will do nothing for gas prices now and convince him to do nothing. That’s the strategy the Dems believe is successful here.
Yesterdays hippies are todays teachers.
Where did you think those 60’s socialists went?
As a student myself I see these cretins everyday.
You would not believe how gullable the kids are that I see being spoon-fed big government socialst tripe everyday.
For every person who tells you their kids are strong enough to withstand the leftist onslaught at school there are 20 who are not.
We talk about this party or the other party being to blame, but really it is all of our faults. WE didn’t demand action when this could have been prevented. WE did nothing when a fly literaly stoped construction of refineries. It is our fault. All of ours. We need to act now. We need action now. It can no longer be put off, just because it is hard or unpopular, or even dangerous. It only gets worse if we don’t act. It only get harder.
sonofdy:
I agree.
If anyone on this board is not active in your local area politically. Get on it.
If you are not researching the candidates in your area. Get on it.
We need to post good info about our local representatives and help them fight.
We send these people to Washington and never think of them again till the next election. Get in touch with them.
Tell your neighbor, drinking buddy whoever.
Bush just has to see this… since he is in Europe pushing for refined oil embargo. He can NOT allow the US to be behind even Iran… BUSH… WAKE T.F. UP!!!
It is not the fault of President Bush.
The ownership of this is squarely at the feet of congress.
THAT IS THE LESSON TO BE LEARNED.
I don’t understand what the American government has to do with American oil refineries. If refineries would be good for the market, they’d be built by the oil companies. Gas is primarily expensive because oil supply isn’t increasing, but demand is. More drilling will help… but mostly we just have to get used to it… the world is developing.
Mark Jaquith:
Because the government has regulated the industry to the point that nobody can drill without government permission. They have made the building of refineries so hard that most companies don’t even bother trying.
The liberal government demands control and power over every aspect of our lives. It is that simple.
Anything which would loosen that noose of liberal control must be fought by the socialist.
Freedom is only for the socialist.
They demand that republicans must be defeated. And conservatism must be outlawed.
We have either a very stupid national government (which I doubt) or a bunch of very greedy politicians bent on destroying what made this country great, to be replaced with a pure socialist country…with them in charge, of course, and exempt. They are even against nuclear energy. Last time I checked, the U.S. navy is doing fine, and Europe is still there, congress. What’s the problem?
graysonret,
Is there any question that the left has not turned completely toward socialism.
I see no evidence to dispute this.
When was the last time any liberal spoke of liberty?
The socialist democrat party of today is not the democrat party which Reagan left all those many years ago.
Sadly it has not been for quite some time.
And it is time for us to quit imagining they are anything other than what they are.
Socialist.
They only speak of it when they hear we’re trying to find out what our enemies are up to.
OCG1980, No question that they are socialist, and they have been moving farther and farther left every year, which was the major reason why I left the democrats, never to return. They speak of liberty, that is, their own. It’s the way all socialism works. The “leaders” have the liberty, while the rest have none; for their protection, of course, and general welfare. “Take away their liberty a little at a time, until, one day, they realize that it is all gone.”
graysonret;
I agree 100%
The question is how to get all the rest of us to focus on this bigger picture and understand that all these other distractions stem from that?
I fell for the headline..
7, wow.. how did that happen?..
should have known.. Iran..
Last night there was a story on TV about how the Iranians could not import the parts needed to build new refineries due to the curent embargo over their illegal nuclear program. Now we have this story. I wonder which one is actually true. They have had ~20 years since their war with Iraq to build refineries, yet they waited until they needed to ration gas to consider building them. Something in all of this is not adding up.
According to Lisa Margonelli in her very, very interesting book about the oil industry, “Oil On The Brain,” p. 60, the United States had 324 oil refineries in 1981 but only 149 now. That’s less than half.
That is classic! He’s willing to craft amnesty legislation with Ted Kennedy and a racist group like La Raza but he won’t visit ANWAR? I guess selling out our sovereignty to anti-American racist interests takes priority to national interests. I guess with McCain the quid quo pro will be “No cheap labor? No oil!”
Ahmadinejad 7 vs U.S. Congress 0
Iran has tremendous oil and natural gas reserves. Despite sanctions, Iran has continued to do business with Russia, China, France and Germany. Construction of new refineries will make it even more immune to international sanctions.
In the 1950s, the refinery at Abadan, Iran, at the head of the Persian Gulf, was the largest in the world. Inexplicably, during the reign of the mullahs, it was allowed to deteriorate into a rusting hulk.
This is good news all across the board. Even if the new refineries are going on line in Iran, that is still an increase in supply for the rest of the would, which should help ease the burden on US consumers, albeit indirectly. We plainly need more refineries anywhere we can get them at this point. Furthermore, no country making that kind of long term capital investment in the future is going to guarantee their destruction today by threatening to wage nuclear war or threatening their neighbors. The only thing that stands to be negatively impacted by this is Israel’s self-serving pride. And as far as I’m concerned, Israel is no friend of the United States if they would so much as think about doing anything that would stifle the worldwide supply of oil and drive gasoline prices even higher.
Well, this is still good the US and for the global supply of gasoline. If the global production increases the prices should eventually decline as pressures on demand ease. Until we bomb the Mad Mullahs back to the stone age of course, and the we are right back in the mess the Democrats in Congress have created over the past 30 years.
Dem-think:
Drilling for new oil is a bad idea because it will provide only a small fraction of our needs and will not arrive for years.
However, investing untold billions in unproven alternative energy sources (which have already been studied and researched for years) and will never provide more than a small fraction of our needs for many years is a great idea.
It boggles the mind.
Looks like I scooped this post in an earlier thread
Every time I try to understand the maze of confusing policy programs and decisions that Dems have initiated and pushed on Americans over the years, I get lost in the irony.
How pathetically sad that Iran is building refineries. Terrorism’s best friend and enabler. I bet the Mullahs are laughing themselves silly while wishing death upon the USA.
Nope, the greatest super power of the 20th century doesn’t seem to have a clue that drilling and exploiting one’s natural resources could have an impact on gas prices whereas gas rationing hasn’t seem to have made much sense so now the Iranians are going to do something about it.
I’m beginning to understand why reasoning skills are so lost on liberals.
Just Thank the Marxists that YOUR FRIENDS and NEIGHBORS ELECTED TO CONGRESS!
It was the will of the People to cripple the Economy and Over Regulate Our Domestic Energy production.
No viable Energy Plan for the past 40 years and now the results are clear. No new Refineries or development of existing resources, no problem.
I’m sure that the Marxist Elite in Congress and BO have grand plans in mind to make it worse!
Thank the Idiots that elected this sad collection of Fools to Office!
MJ, government is the very entity responsible for erecting the obstacles with which oil companies must contend to try to build refineries. Well, them and the enviro-nitwits that government enables by pandering to them.
Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.
That may not be a short-term fix. But, it will get us pointed in the right direction.
“The official said all seven refineries would begin operations by 2012.
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Yeah? I’m going to go ahead and be skeptical. This is the same government that announced a brand new fighter capable of defeating our radar, and released a picture of an American built F-20 to accompany the story. Iran’s government and press routinely throw out complete B.S. stories. . .making them much like some of our own leading print news sources.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Yashmak
They will contract out the hard stuff, they have the bucks to do it.
Figure on it to lower internal pressure on gas prices and rationing.
Scary that these backwards ass mullahs see the need to increase petrol production and our own dumb ass politicians cant see pas the bribes in their face to actually do something for the good of the American people!
Perhaps we should just start cutting off our wheat exports – especially to OPEC / hostile nations. Maybe that will coerce some of these countries to stop the nonsense…if they really want to eat, that is.