Comments on: Good News! California town celebrates the importance of marriage

By: More Layoffs and Focus on the Family » A Couple Things » A couple things about politics, sports, travel, and other stuff.

Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:03:07 +0000

[...] Maybe they should spend a little more money on their own employees and a little less money telling other people who they can and can’t marry. Focus on the Family announced this afternoon that [...]

By: Die Hippie, Die

Die Hippie, Die — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:55:34 +0000

The whole (no pun intended) argument that prohibitions against gay marriages are a denial of civil rights is nonsensical at best. It’s akin to saying that because my parents didn’t give birth to a child with wings, they hatefully denied my civil right to fly–or that the sun has hatefully denied my civil right to play pond hockey in July.

I’m used to hearing Rusty’s style of reasoning from pre-adolescents, so maybe that’s why it’s so grating to find it here.

By: alaskangrizzly

alaskangrizzly — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:00:39 +0000

why in every state* (that it has come up for a vote on the ballot)

By: alaskangrizzly

alaskangrizzly — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:59:09 +0000

It’s evil to deny people rights for no reason.

What DP willfully ignores is that “most” Americans believe like I do that the behavior is sinful on the same level of pedophelia. And we’re not denying squat, civil unions supply (in most states and the others were correcting themselves slowly) the same “rights” as marriage without hijacking the definition of it to appease a 2% minority and force feed the other 98% of us into accepting sinful behavior as “okay”. And DP wonders why in every state (except the one I live in sadly, but round 2 comes this November) has voted overwhelmingly to add the definition of marriage to their state constitution as “one man and one woman”. That my friend, is what I call “winning”.

An evil man calling those us sticking up for morality evil is rather hilarious, but not a first from our resident DP.

By: Die Hippie, Die

Die Hippie, Die — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:33:11 +0000

It’s a matter of hate.

I bow to the Hatemaster.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:18:37 +0000

Hey, Hippie. It’s evil to deny people rights for no reason. It’s not a matter of disagreement. It’s a matter of hate.

By: wighttrasch

wighttrasch — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:01:24 +0000

I didn’t support Al Gore’s legal strategy.

and

assuming Bush won FL

your choice of words in these two sentences belie your intent. And they answer my question…

By: Die Hippie, Die

Die Hippie, Die — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:37:40 +0000

On June 16th, 2008 at 10:56 am, Rusty said:

When the will of the people is unjustifiably evil…

Grow up, junior. Calling people evil because they don’t agree with you or give you what you want marks you as immature.

There is a long history of state regulation of marriage including laws against bigamy, polygamy and incestuous marriage. Call those laws “hateful” if you will…but who cares what wackos ~~think~~ feel.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:15:00 +0000

I actually support the Electoral College and not popular vote. I didn’t support Secretary Harris’s shenanigans and I didn’t support Al Gore’s legal strategy.

But assuming Bush won FL, the popular vote doesn’t matter.

By: wighttrasch

wighttrasch — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:51:51 +0000

Oh, Rusty; I’m sure you were interested in what the ‘will of the people’ was in the 2000 election…hmmmmm?

By: Rusty

Rusty — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:56:59 +0000

Integration of schools was a deeply unpopular policy that was brought to the South by judicial fiat. So was ending the ban on interracial marriage.

How is that different than what the CA Supreme Court did?

When the will of the people is unjustifiably evil, I don’t care what the people want. And denying someone equality without justification is evil.

By: Die Hippie, Die

Die Hippie, Die — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:16:32 +0000

On June 16th, 2008 at 8:33 am, abstractmind said:

but hey, who cares about the will of the people?

We have King kRusty the Klown to guide our consciences! We don’ need no steenking will of the people!

By: abstractmind

abstractmind — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:33:22 +0000

Honestly, this is an issue i’m tired of hearing about. California is going to start issuing licenses for this today.

but hey, who cares about the will of the people? who cares about what the majority wants, we have people who want to subvert that, and we’re getting in the way.

/sarc off

By: Die Hippie, Die

Die Hippie, Die — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:17:21 +0000

Blaming judges for overturning the will of the people is like gettingf (sic) angry at the Supreme Court for mandating integration.

Your ahead of lgm in the idiot non-sequitur race. And if the two of you are competing to be the most condescending, you may have an edge there too. Who the hell are you accusing of being angry about Brown vs. Board of Education? Or are you just building straw men? Overturning a voter-approved initiative by judicial fiat is exactly what happened.

We have a republic

Almost. We have a constitutional republic with prescribed methods for enacting laws. There is no constitutional guarantee to same-sex marriage. Got it?

We live in a country where a committment (sic) to civil rights is more important than hatred.

It takes a true ass (no pun intended) to accuse someone with a differing opinion of holding that opinion out of hatred. Seriously, how old were you when you last stormed upstairs to your bedroom yelling "I hate you. I hate you. I hate you," when your parents didn't buy you something that ~~was your civil right~~ you wanted? 25? 30? 35? 40?

Gay marriage is an issue the Republicans are losing.

Wrong. Gay marriage bans are popular with people of all political persuasions. That's why they're never defeated when they're on the ballot.

By: Trop

Trop — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:41:57 +0000

Well, who needs government anyway? My wife and I were married in a church by a Christian minister–and in Jerry Falwell’s town, no less. Gays have been marrying extra-legally since the beginning of time. Laws won’t stop that.