Remember that Saudi Academy in Fairfax, VA? Yeah, their 1999 valedictorian joined Al Qaeda.

By see-dubya  •  June 13, 2008 01:11 PM

So back here I wrote about the incendiary textbooks used in the Fairfax, VA Islamic Saudi Academy. After “revisions” the texts still advocated rule under an Islamic caliphate and the death of apostates and adulterers. But the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors, including congressional candidate Gerry Connolly, voted to allow the private, Saudi-funded school to continue to lease their facility from the county.

According to VA blogger Black Velvet Bruce Li, Connolly even “derisively” dismissed criticisms of the Islamic Saudi Academy at the meeting. Which is not surprising, given the close relationship between Connolly and CAIR which BVBL describes.

Well, turns out there’s a lot more to the story of the Islamic Saudi Academy, according to PJM’s Patrick Poole:

According to a local news report [video] on June 3, the female student reported her claims to her teachers, and a report on the matter was drawn up by the teachers and the school’s principal and submitted to administrators. But when the allegations reached the desk of school director Abdullah Al-Shabnan, he didn’t believe the girl and failed to report the sex abuse claims to law enforcement within the 72 hours required by state law.

See the video report on that coverup here. That’s awful, though it doesn’t really count toward Connolly’s judgment because the story broke after his vote.

The story of ISA valedictorian Abu Ali, however, has been around a while. Says Poole:

This is far from the first time that the Islamic Saudi Academy has received unwelcome public scrutiny. Just a few days ago, the academy’s 1999 class valedictorian, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, had his 2005 conviction upheld by the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals on charges that he joined Al-Qaeda and had plotted to assassinate President George W. Bush. Abu Ali was sentenced to 30 years in prison. As noted by Evan Kohlmann at Counterterrorism Blog, Abu Ali had joined an Al-Qaeda cell in Saudi Arabia while studying at the University of Medina, and one of his Al-Qaeda co-conspirators was killed in a shoot-out with Saudi authorities.

There’s even more scary stuff about ISA from Poole. Black Velvet Bruce Li says:

You better believe this is going to be an issue in Gerry Connolly’s congressional campaign. It’s bad enough having a county supervisor who embraces these folks. Having that person become a United States Congressman is utterly ridiculous.

UPDATE: Still more on star pupil Abu Ali at the House of Jawa.
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  1. #349649
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, Barry F. said:

    Surprise!

  2. #349653
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, see-dubya said:

    Shocking, isn’t it.

  3. #349654
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Does Connolly live near the Beltway?

    There are certain safe Donk districts in places like Madison, anywhere within 40 miles of San Francisco and Massachusetts where not even being caught in bed with a dead boy would be disqualifying as long as the incumbent in question was a Marxist has a D after his/her name

  4. #349655
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, Barry F. said:

    Who would have thunk it, see_dub?

  5. #349657
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, almeehan said:

    Storm the school with pitch forks, flaming brooms, buckets of tar and a bag of feathers. People are too shy to do anything about, sadly. Most people in the area are too busy with their lives to get involved.

  6. #349659
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    That’ll make prime time; def!

  7. #349661
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Incoming lgm with an apples to oranges comparison to a Jewish school in 3..2..1..

    Oh wait, there is no comparison. Shocker.

  8. #349662
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, tre said:

    But, now, thanks to looney liberals on the Supreme Court, he has the right of habeas corpus, a trial, etc.

  9. #349663
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, Barry F. said:

    Hello?!…

    The Bush administration considers the Saudi government to be one of our allies in the War on Terror, and that support extends to the Islamic Saudi Academy as well. Cinnamon Stillwell recently noted an article in the Mount Vernon Gazette that reported 22 soldiers from Ft. Belvoir had recently graduated from the Islamic Saudi Academy’s “Arabic as a Second Language” program. This means that the school is not only being funded by the Saudi government, but also our own government. Deputy Assistant Secretary of The Army Dr. Lynn Heirakuji and the U.S. Army’s Deputy Assistant for Foreign Languages Erol Smith attended the graduation ceremonies.

    What the s**t is up with this? :roll:

  10. #349664
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, Barry F. said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, tre said:

    Fortunately, that particular scumbag was convicted in ‘05 and his conviction upheld on appeal.

  11. #349665
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, John Ansell said:

    My eyebrows are on top of my head, I’m so shocked.

  12. #349670
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, abstractmind said:

    lgm and the rest of the trolls are currently unavailable for comment.

    I am SHOCKED! SHOCKED I SAY!

    /sarc off

  13. #349672
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, letget said:

    Thanks for the up-date S/D. The quote “Having that person become a U.S. Congressman is utterly ridiculous” is possible now. Isn’t there an muslim in Congress now? It seems nothing is impossible when voters vote.
    L

  14. #349675
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, Pulchritudinous Patriot said:

    The camel is not only in the tent, it’s got it’s own stack of cushions and a dancing girl.

  15. #349686
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:41 pm, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Incoming lgm with an apples to oranges comparison to a Jewish school in 3..2..1..

    Oh wait, there is no comparison. Shocker.

    Has that ever stopped it before?

  16. #349689
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    What’s great about this from the terrorist point of view is that their training facilities here are safe! If they were in Afghanistan, we would bomb them, but here in the US, we send them students, probably subsidize their school lunches, give them tax breaks, can’t listen to their phone conversations and a fast track to citizenship. It’s perfect.

  17. #349691
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, tre said:

    #10, Barry F.

    At last, some GOOD news! Please tell me, next, that the prison put him to work in their pig farm!

  18. #349692
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I left out the home loans and credit card deals…

  19. #349695
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, alaskangrizzly said:
    Incoming lgm with an apples to oranges comparison to a Jewish school in 3..2..1..

    Oh wait, there is no comparison. Shocker.

    Well, if you’re willing to go back a couple of decades, there is always Baruch Goldstein, whose name is memorable only because he is the only Jewish terrorist murderer of the last 20 years.

    And Timothy McVeigh was an altar boy.

    See, one can always use moral relevance to explain away anything.

  20. #349700
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:52 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    # 16 What a great comparison–Thank you!

    Great vid on what’s going on here:

    http://christianaction.org/

  21. #349705
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, right_on said:

    But the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors, including congressional candidate Gerry Connolly, voted to allow the private, Saudi-funded school to continue to lease their facility from the county.

    This is simple…follow the money! Anytime “Saudi-funded” appears in information, someone is being paid off. When will we, as a people, hold elected officials accountable? As long as stupid people are allowed to vote, the answer is NEVER!

  22. #349710
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    See, one can always use moral relevance to explain away anything.

    Heh, he has resorted to such weak examples and strawmen in the past. Which is why he can’t definitively show one Jewish school preaching death to gays, Christians, and those who leave Judaism that actually has a direct impact on thousands of people being murdered for being gay, a Christian, and those who leave Judaism.

    Where on the contrary we can find links that would take days to read all of them in their entirety of Islamic schools like this one producing the results of exactly what they preach.

    Coincidence? Only to an insane liberal like lgm who sees their disclaimer of preaching love and unity and says “look, they love other people who are not Muslim, see it’s right on their front page”.

  23. #349711
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, Laree said:

    I don’t why more people don’t get the point about “wahbis” I know the MSM decides what it will and won’t cover who is ever going to finish connecting the dots? Ann Coulter mentions what others chose to ignore.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/

  24. #349713
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, love2rumba said:

    Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, alaskangrizzly said:
    Incoming lgm with an apples to oranges comparison to a Jewish school in 3..2..1..

    Oh wait, there is no comparison. Shocker.
    Well, if you’re willing to go back a couple of decades, there is always Baruch Goldstein, whose name is memorable only because he is the only Jewish terrorist murderer of the last 20 years.

    And Timothy McVeigh was an altar boy.

    See, one can always use moral relevance to explain away anything

    The primary difference is what the respective Jewish and Christian faiths say in their fundamental literature on how to treat non-believers….the Muslims by creed and history have a miltary view of proselytization-no exceptions. At one time, the Christian faith had spread throughout modern North Africa until it was snuffed out by Mohammed…had Christianity (and Judaism) not spread to Europe they would have been long defunct.

    Also note how fast and furiously McVeigh and Nichols were denounced for their actions by the Christian community-conspiracy theories aside.

    CAIR by comparison engages in double speak and moral relativism all the time

  25. #349714
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, tre said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    And Timothy McVeigh was an altar boy.

    When he went to trial and was executed Tim McVeigh claimed to be agnostic.
    Eric Rudolph, the abortion clinic bomber and Olympic Park bomber was the only Christian terrorist.

  26. #349715
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, abstractmind said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Or, as i posted elsewhere….its not specifically on their website in black and white like this:

    DEATH TO INFIDELS! WE ALSO HAVE A LOVELY ENGLISH PROGRAM!

    LOL

  27. #349717
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, right_on said:

    At last, some GOOD news! Please tell me, next, that the prison put him to work in their pig farm!

    That will never happen, Tre…his Quran might get offended! It would be considered “religious persecution” to have him work around pigs**t. Heh!

  28. #349719
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, Barry F. said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I left out the home loans and credit card deals…

    Dang! Their Countrywide VIPs now too? :evil:

  29. #349723
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, see-dubya said:

    tre, #25–

    There’s some doubt about Rudolph, too, who “preferred Nietzsche to the Bible”.

    But there are Christian terrorists in Lebanon, and the IRA was nominally Christian. So you might add “in America”.

  30. #349728
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, Barry F. said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, tre said:

    #10, Barry F.

    At last, some GOOD news! Please tell me, next, that the prison put him to work in their pig farm!

    Unfortunately, tre, our system isn’t known for such poetic justice.

  31. #349730
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Dang! Their Countrywide VIPs now too?

    I believe they do their banking at Wahbicovia.

  32. #349731
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, Barry F. said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, Barry F. said:

    Dang! Their They’re Countrywide VIPs now too?

    Danged, typos! Sorry…

  33. #349732
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, tre said:
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    And Timothy McVeigh was an altar boy.

    When he went to trial and was executed Tim McVeigh claimed to be agnostic.
    Eric Rudolph, the abortion clinic bomber and Olympic Park bomber was the only Christian terrorist.

    I knew that, I was making a point. There was also the abortion clinic shooter in Florida ten or fifteen years ago, but yes, Muslims have about a million to two lead on terror killings over the Christians right now, and they still have the ball.

  34. #349738
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    The IRA was not motivated by Christian ideology. The original IRA of the early 20th Century were nationalists, and the more recent incarnations of the IRA since the 1960s were motivated by Marxism.

    So, they may have been terrorists who were nominally Christian, but they aren’t Christian terrorists.

    ON the same point, the distinction is less clear, but I believe Yasser Arafat was motivated by Marxism and Palestinian nationalism, even though, of course, there never was a Palestinian nation, just a British colony that used the name the Romans imposed after the destruction of the Second Temple. Hence, Arafat was, I’d argue, a terorrist who was a Muslim, not a Muslim terrorist. His side did start using Islamic references and justifications when Hamas out-gained them in popularity, but I’m not sure at all that was sincere.

  35. #349748
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, Gabe said:

    Here is something else that needs to mentioned. I live in the Springfield district of Fairfax County.

    The school board sold a beautifully wooded 35 acre plot about two years ago to a developer because they no longer needed the land for a school. It was right next to South Run district park and could easily have become parkland.

    But NO, over the objections of citizens and the Park Authority, they had to sell it to a developer who clear cut the land to build million dollar houses one right on top of another:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A53092-2004Oct21?language=printer

    YET, Fairfax County WON’T sell the Saudi academy land to developers. They could make a whole bunch of money, far more than they are making leasing the property.

    Lesson: If the land is not needed, it can’t be given over to Fairfax County citizens for parkland. BUT, if terrorists need it and Fairfax County schools don’t, it must be leased and not sold.

    Why else would Fairfax County sell a plot of land they own for a school to developers but keep land not needed and lease it to Saudis?

    How much have Muslim groups “donated” to Gerry Connoly’s campaign and to Fairfax County?

  36. #349754
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, madchef said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said: #3
    Does Connolly live near the Beltway?

    Yes he does, he lives at [redacted by seedub] which is just down the block from my house. He and the rest of the Board of Supervisors have made Fairfax a sanctuary for Illegal aliens, raised our property taxes every year and have dumbed down our schools. He is a tax and spend liberal who is against the war on terrorism.
    He also has the worst looking lawn on the street. Knee high weeds and over grown shrubs.

  37. #349756
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, see-dubya said:

    Madchef, please don’t post peoples’ addresses, public figures or otherwise.

  38. #349758
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, martin.musculus said:


    #5
    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, almeehan said:
    Storm the school with pitch forks, flaming brooms, buckets of tar and a bag of feathers.

    Actually, slabs of bacon, picnic, (i.e . uncured) hams, cured hams, BLTs, cans of lard, (not crisco) would be more effective.

    We keep a dog. As a watch-critter dogs are ok, but geese are better.

    Keeping a dog has “unspecified” benefits…

    From this day forth, our families will always have at least one dog.

    I’ve decided its patriotic to do so.

    – martin.musculus

  39. #349769
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, John Ansell said:

    Hey See-Dubya, are you going to cover this? Sorry OT but I’m just so happy a leader is finally calling a duck a duck.

  40. #349771
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, max said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, see-dubya said:
    tre, #25–

    and the IRA was nominally Christian. So you might add “in America”.

    i think that’s a bit of a stretch seedub, even with the “nominally” caveat… the IRA was not trying convert anyone or establish any kind of Christian rule of law… it was about getting Ireland out from under the British heel, period. Or are you implying that Protestant-Catholic = Shia-Sunni or something to that effect? which i think would be even more of a stretch….

  41. #349772
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, DagneyT said:

    I cannot believe that we allow, let alone sanctify the presence of vipers in our midst! This is worse than Chamberlain during WWII, this is saying to your enemy, “Should I just lay my head here? I hope you sharpened the blade recently.”

  42. #349773
    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, Joy said:

    Sign the petition to Impeach the SCOTUS justices responsible for the ruling on Boumediene et al. v. Bush, 06-1195 that was decided yesterday.

    Petition <—click

  43. #349778
    On June 13th, 2008 at 3:02 pm, nyc123me said:

    NOTHING will change. Until the US undergoes some kind of nuclear holocaust at the hands of terrorism, I don’t think there is anything that will wake up the US government and most of the people living under it. Politicians who are aware of the danger we are rushing headlong into won’t do anything because it might endanger their position on the ladder. Bunch of ostriches with their heads in the sand basically, and until that sands gets taken away, there they will stay. The only ‘change’ Obama will bring is a dramatic increase of the same idiocy.

  44. #349782
    On June 13th, 2008 at 3:06 pm, DagneyT said:

    As long as stupid people are allowed to vote, the answer is NEVER!

    Right_on, we really need to get back to the original intent of “voters” the founding fathers laid out, i.e., “only landed” meaning male landowners only could vote. BTW, I’m female, and that would leave me out…but I’d be willing, if we could get some decent leadership in place!!

  45. #349785
    On June 13th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    # 23 thanks – just read Ann’s article–

    How can she be sooo – continuously–right on!!!

  46. #349800
    On June 13th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, right_on said:

    DagneyT-

    The fact that you are HERE, is proof enough that you are intelligent! It is my belief that as long as people who are on long term public assistance are allowed to vote for representation in the government, we will continue to have liberals elected who have control of the federal purse strings.

    People on P.A. will ALWAYS vote for liberals who promise them more benefits.

  47. #349801
    On June 13th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, letget said:

    Thanks Joy. I signed the petition. What a horrible state our country is in now. I have a feeling it is going to get much worse.
    L

  48. #349808
    On June 13th, 2008 at 3:33 pm, Erin_Coda said:

    I live in Fairfax Co. and here is my interesting story about ISA: in the days after 9-11, when many churches were reaching out to our Muslim neighbors, our church invited two Muslim guest speakers to conduct an adult education class. They were a married couple who both taught at ISA; he was of Middle Eastern descent and she was a white American woman who had converted to Islam. Their views seemed rather moderate to me. For instance, they described “jihad” as a spiritual struggle akin to the Biblical injunction to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling”. They also said that murder is a sin in Islam just as it is in Christianity; that to kill even one person was as bad as to kill everyone in the whole world.

    I’m not a Muslim and I’ve never read the Koran, so I’m hardly an authority…but it seems that there is indeed a spectrum of adherence among believers, in how strictly they follow the words in their holy book. I can only hope that moderates such as our speaker can talk some sense into those who seek destruction.

  49. #349819
    On June 13th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, Erin_Coda said:

    PS– John Ansell #38– the “Lee Baca” plan with the rival gang members is almost exactly what was done with young people in Northern Ireland– the program assigns one Catholic and one Protestant teen together to an American family for a few weeks over the summer. That way they had the opportunity to build bridges in an environment where denomination (and nationalism) mattered a lot less than it did back home. The response has been overwhelmingly positive.

  50. #349860
    On June 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, drfredc said:

    The Solution is sit down and talk
    Learn the oBORGama walk.

  51. #349865
    On June 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Why join AQ when you can drive your SUV over students at an Infidel school down the street.

    Destroy the Mosque he is from, and plant the American flag on the rock pile for the world to see America has had enough of this false moon god worshiping cult.

    Of course, we coould hold hands, sing songs, and tell ourselves only a few Muslims feeeeeellll that way.

    How many examples do you Momie babies need to see the light?

  52. #349897
    On June 13th, 2008 at 4:22 pm, John Ansell said:

    Erin_Coda #48, thanks for that info. I sure hope it works here.

  53. #349960
    On June 13th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, CR UVa said:

    I’m not sure which is worse; that Connolly might become the Congressman representing the next voting district over from mine, or that I am stuck with Jim Moran (that is, unless Mark Ellmore can beat him in November). At least Frank Wolf over in the 10th should still do Virginia proud (not like Judy Feder is going to do any better this time around than the last election).

  54. #349988
    On June 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm, wise_man said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, Barry F. said:Hello?!…

    The Bush administration considers the Saudi government to be one of our allies in the War on Terror, and that support extends to the Islamic Saudi Academy as well. Cinnamon Stillwell recently noted an article in the Mount Vernon Gazette that reported 22 soldiers from Ft. Belvoir had recently graduated from the Islamic Saudi Academy’s “Arabic as a Second Language” program. This means that the school is not only being funded by the Saudi government, but also our own government. Deputy Assistant Secretary of The Army Dr. Lynn Heirakuji and the U.S. Army’s Deputy Assistant for Foreign Languages Erol Smith attended the graduation ceremonies.

    What the s**t is up with this?

    It means that the US Army needs soldiers who speak arabic.

    What is your problem with this?

    Do you think that the evil saudi government converted these men into Jihadists? The saudi government is our ally. Members of that nation are law abiding citizens, and some are criminals. Just like in this country.

    So what is your point?

  55. #350015
    On June 13th, 2008 at 6:06 pm, graysonret said:

    Well, we certainly know what’s coming in, under the table, to Connolly and his bunch. I wouldn’t surprise me to see a A-Q table set up outside the cafeteria at lunchtime, passing out literature…next to the Hamas desk. Heck, I bet they even have scholarships available.

  56. #350156
    On June 13th, 2008 at 10:18 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Persecution of Christians in Egypt ;

    US gives Egypt $1.3 BILLION a year:

    $50,000,000,000 (that would be BILLION) since 1975…

    My elected officials–Where are you???!!!

    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/06/reason-2109543-826.html#readfurther

  57. #350158
    On June 13th, 2008 at 10:24 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Christians may NOT have Bibles nor openly carry them in Saudi Arabia…

    These are NOT my friends.

  58. #350276
    On June 14th, 2008 at 9:35 am, ex-expat said:

    Does Connolly live near the Beltway?

    Yes, he does, in a slowly turning red to purple voting district, which I am afraid, will most likely send him to Congress.

  59. #350416
    On June 14th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, Dimsdale said:

    lgm’s silence is his approval.

  60. #350423
    On June 14th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, graysonret said:

    Speaking of honor students, the latest from Fairfax County:

    http://fairfaxtimes.com/news/2008/jun/11/recognizing-achievement/

  61. #350856
    On June 16th, 2008 at 12:17 am, atheling said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, love2rumba said:

    On June 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Incoming lgm with an apples to oranges comparison to a Jewish school in 3..2..1..

    Oh wait, there is no comparison. Shocker.

    Well, if you’re willing to go back a couple of decades, there is always Baruch Goldstein, whose name is memorable only because he is the only Jewish terrorist murderer of the last 20 years.

    And Timothy McVeigh was an altar boy.

    See, one can always use moral relevance to explain away anything
    The primary difference is what the respective Jewish and Christian faiths say in their fundamental literature on how to treat non-believers….the Muslims by creed and history have a miltary view of proselytization-no exceptions. At one time, the Christian faith had spread throughout modern North Africa until it was snuffed out by Mohammed…had Christianity (and Judaism) not spread to Europe they would have been long defunct.

    Also note how fast and furiously McVeigh and Nichols were denounced for their actions by the Christian community-conspiracy theories aside.

    CAIR by comparison engages in double speak and moral relativism all the time

    Sounds like lgm could work for CAIR.

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