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1. #1
   On June 15th, 2008 at 2:10 am, apacherat said:

   The radical liberal L.A. Times has very little credibility with me.

   I just renewed my NRA membership this evening.

2. #2
   On June 15th, 2008 at 2:11 am, Christian Soldier said:

   Golly –GEEE if the LA TIMES says it —it must be true…..I hate to name – call —but, whenever a rep calls to ask if I would like to subscribe I always answer..”Your paper is waaaay to liberal for me.”

   I’ve got to get my re-newal for the NRA into the mail!!!!

3. #3
   On June 15th, 2008 at 3:12 am, hadsil said:

   Hey Democrats! You have Congress and people don’t like Bush. Hooray! You won! You can go home now, retire, enjoy the good life. You don’t need to try to get elected anymore. You can leave that minutia to others. Perhaps they won’t be so bitter anymore.

4. #4
   On June 15th, 2008 at 3:17 am, love2rumba said:

   The only problem See-Dubya is that John McCain’s own credibility on fighting gun control is as phony as Obama-I have a very long memory.

   John McCain too had no problem throwing the NRA under the Bus whenever he wanted

   I also remember another RINO -the father of the current US president who said he was conservative, and then when he got in in 1988 revealed himself to be a liberal.

   The only reason why I voted at all in the 2000 election was that gun owners would be in the perfect position to force GWB to not renew the assault weapon ban or else face defeat.

   In a perverse way it was fortunate that GWB’s Iraq occupation was not the clear political booster for GWB in 2004 that he had hoped, because it prevented him from trying to push renewal of the assualt weapon ban.

   Never give away your vote to any of these people–make ‘em squirm and make it hurt for every blessed portion of your vote.

5. #5
   On June 15th, 2008 at 3:18 am, love2rumba said:

   AS for the media they are full of s@#t

6. #6
   On June 15th, 2008 at 3:22 am, love2rumba said:

   By the way on a much lighter note:

   HAPPY FATHER’S DAY!!!

7. #7
   On June 15th, 2008 at 3:32 am, love2rumba said:

   W/R/T POST #4

   POLITICAL SADISM AGAINST UNTRUSTWORTHY POLITICIANS IS NO VICE

8. #8
   On June 15th, 2008 at 5:48 am, old trooper said:

   As the Marxists in Congress and the Senate fear the NRA and firearm confiscation has always been on their agenda, the NRA serves a valuable purpose in preserving the 2nd Amendment to Our Constitution.

   In the event that Obama is elected, expect your 2nd Amendment Freedoms to be under fire again, regardless of his current rhetoric or anything that the LA Times publishes. Re: the LA Times, Pravda is a more reliable news source.

9. #9
   On June 15th, 2008 at 6:02 am, txvet2 said:

   When Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate in 1996, he appeared to endorse a ban on handguns. (He has since said that campaign aides incorrectly indicated that position on a candidate questionnaire and that he has never favored a ban.)

   It’s just never his fault, it’s always somebody else’s mistake or it’s not the questionnaire he knew.

10. #10
    On June 15th, 2008 at 6:47 am, zorro said:

    I think once word of BO’s anti-gun agenda gets around, it will decide the election.

    Obama’s lack of support for our Second Amendment goes hand in hand with his religious preference, you remember, the God D^&n America preacher who married them and baptized their children.

    And Happy Father’s Day to all. The perfect gift is a membership with the NRA. Time to kick back, watch the finish of the 24 Hours of Le Mans on Speed. Then hit the range and pop a few caps.

11. #11
    On June 15th, 2008 at 7:13 am, tarpon said:

    They are funny … the Democrat Marxist have a simple plan, raise taxes fund socialism and gun control. You connect the dots.

    Hoping to disband the NRA are we, before everyone knows of Comrade Obama’s plans.

12. #12
    On June 15th, 2008 at 8:40 am, jones said:

    The NRA is a rifle group?

    Is the ACLU a debate club, the NAACP a ethnic club?

    What a stupid thing to say.

13. #13
    On June 15th, 2008 at 8:40 am, DogBreath said:

    Thanks for jogging my memory See-Dubya. I just remembered I need to renew my CC permit.

14. #14
    On June 15th, 2008 at 8:56 am, beenthere said:

    once word of BO’s anti-gun agenda gets around, it will decide the election.

    It could indeed be a significant factor, were the Republicans to aggressively and fearlessly pursue it. Wait, did I just use “Republican” and “aggressively and fearlessly” in the same sentence? I’m sorry. How very foolish of me. What will happen is that somewhere a Republican will say something that could be construed as supportive of gun rights, McCain will hear about it and go ballistic — Don’t you know that a member of group X was once killed by a gun?! — and in the name of outreach that will be that.

    President McCain? Not going to happen people, which is good news of sorts.

    Emperor Obama the First? All but certain.

15. #15
    On June 15th, 2008 at 9:13 am, spo-con said:

    I renewed my membership last Tuesday. They swamp us with warnings about just this kind of parlor tricks. We are asked to stay vigilant and always read between the lines when it comes to the MSM. The NRA does speak for me !

16. #16
    On June 15th, 2008 at 9:14 am, DesertLover said:

    Guns don’t kill people … people kill people …

    But that doesn’t fit the lib agenda …

    I couldn’t care less what the LAtte Times writes …

17. #17
    On June 15th, 2008 at 9:15 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Isn’t that nice of the LA Vice er Times and Robert Spitzer, a political scientist at the State University of New York in Cortland, to be so concerned. Why that just warms the cockles of me little heart it does.

    Actually, and sadly the NRA has been disbanding itself in a fashion with their dealings and compromises concerning OUR Right to Keep and Bear Arms, though I am a Life Member. Membership is steady but we are seeing more influence from other RKBA groups such as the Gun Owners of America, Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership, Open Carry and so on. And there are the state organizations working to protect our rights. In Arizona we have the Arizona Civil Defense League. Find and join your state’s group.

    Yes, agreed “Don’t do it! It’s a trap!” It is a trap in that they may not mean what they say as in they may even be lying. For some time now I have made the Right to Keep and Bear Arms my number one issue, it is my litmus test. If a candidate fails on that he is toast. I might vote for the SOB if needed but not one dime. And I only contribute to candidates anymore. The National Party and the two Republican Congressional Committees have supported too many RINOs v true Conservatives.

    Just get on the mailing lists of these alternate Rights groups and you will get alerts to candidates that just might beat a liberal or RINO.

    On June 15th, 2008 at 3:32 am, love2rumba said:
    W/R/T POST #4

    POLITICAL SADISM AGAINST UNTRUSTWORTHY POLITICIANS IS NO VICE

    Now that Dear love2rumba is a fine Father’s Day present all in itself.

18. #18
    On June 15th, 2008 at 9:30 am, radio relay said:

    As a gun owner, who has a conceal carry permit and uses it, as a member of the NRA, and a regular at the range, I can tell you that gun owners are not fooled by the gun grabbing, leftwing democrats, such as Obama, et al…

19. #19
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:03 am, expat said:

    On June 15th, 2008 at 8:56 am, beenthere said:

    Republican,aggressively and fearlessly. These nattering mitwits couldn’t aggressively and fearlessly put on their socks.

    Were the pro second ammendment representatives on any kind of a game they would be highlighting the mayhem caused by a truck and a knife in Japan. I know, the libs are anti-truck so that is kind of weak to start with.

    In the meantime we keep renewing our membership and updating our CC permits.

20. #20
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:05 am, Boomer said:

    Under an Obamasiah regime I expect one of the few things allowing us to keep our guns will be the NRA. They have been on target with his life long political agenda in taking our guns out of our hands. Thanks for convincing me to renew my NRA membership LA Times. I make it a rule to do the exact opposite of what is written in this rag, the Boston Globe and the New York Slimes.

21. #21
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:08 am, Mooseman said:

    Makes me proud to be an NRA member when see things like this.

22. #22
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:08 am, Speakup said:

    Obama isn’t anti-gun, he’s just anti-gun for you and me, he’ll be all about guns for those in authority.

23. #23
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:17 am, BadIdeaGuy said:

    How can these morons say it’s off the table when the Congress has gun bans in waiting?? In Pennsylvania we have Democrats trying to push all kinds of bills to make guns illegal and gunowners outlaws in their purported fight against “illegal guns”.

    What a bunch of losers.

24. #24
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:32 am, Christian Soldier said:

    Tyrants have always wanted control of what is yours and mine:I share a portion from my blog:

    All tyrants come from
    The league of men.
    For control of others
    The laws they bend.

    The only way we can survive
    Is to exercise
    Our covenant
    With any government…
    Amendment II
    The Right of Arms to Bear.

    CS

25. #25
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:46 am, mattymatt10 said:

    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:08 am, Speakup said:
    Obama isn’t anti-gun, he’s just anti-gun for you and me, he’ll be all about guns for those in authority.

    Excellent post, straight to the point. I wonder how much B.O. would like being guarded by Secret Service armed with mace, or knives, or baseball bats.

    I want to use my tax “stimulus” for a gun, but they laws are all so damn confusing. Anybody know how hard it is to get a CC in VA?

26. #26
    On June 15th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Skydiver said:

    Whenever somebody trots out the old “Whoever would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither” canard, I ask them their position on gun control.

27. #27
    On June 15th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, atheling said:

    mattymatt10:

    http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaw_va.htm

    Looks like they have conceal carry in Virginia as well. I’m sure your local gun shop owner can tell you how to get one, or go to NRA’s site and check it out there.

28. #28
    On June 15th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, greenfairie said:

    Nice try, L.A. Times.

29. #29
    On June 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, serfer62 said:

    Stop screwing around, get a Life NRA membership.

    I go shooting every day and the range is getting more crowded.

30. #30
    On June 15th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, love2rumba said:

    Stop screwing around, get a Life NRA membership.

    I go shooting every day and the range is getting more crowded.

    Amen Bro!

31. #31
    On June 15th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, Cogs said:

    I like this headline better…
    “The LA Times says it might as well disband”.

32. #32
    On June 15th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, Donut44 said:

    On June 15th, 2008 at 3:17 am, love2rumba said:

    The only problem See-Dubya is that John McCain’s own credibility on fighting gun control is as phony as Obama-I have a very long memory.

    John McCain too had no problem throwing the NRA under the Bus whenever he wanted

    Good call love2rumba and so true. I always love how people will say that someone, like McCain is 85% on an issue, but when that issue is a constitutional matter, I don’t see how that 15% is a not an attempt to erode our liberties. If you vote 9 out of 10 times for a 1% reduction in our taxes, but that 1 time is a 15% increase, am I supposed to love you?

    Besides, the NRA to McCain is a HUGE special interest and according to our 1st amendment loving Congress and McCain, special interests are bad, because you know, they represent the interest of people and all and how can that be good? Right, er, maybe. Hard to follow logic when there is none, sorry.

33. #33
    On June 15th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, kiwiwgranny said:

    My husband and I used our tax stimulus, that we didn’t get, to buy three guns. I have my carry permit and now I am learning how to use a gun. I have been so anti gun for my entire life it is not funny! How things have changed!

34. #34
    On June 15th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    Good for you Kiwiwgranny!May I be so bold as to suggest that while your learning to shoot, get yourself a nice 12 Ga. sawed off, double barrel shotgun. You don’t really need a lot of expertise to use one, and I can garentee that if you touch off both barrels at an assailent he’ll never bother you again. Good shooting, and enjoy.

35. #35
    On June 15th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, Mooseman said:

    On June 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, serfer62 said:

    Stop screwing around, get a Life NRA membership.

    I go shooting every day and the range is getting more crowded.

    I have been in the EPL (Easy Payment Life) plan for about a year now.

36. #36
    On June 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Brent said:

    The last thing that needs to happen is for the NRA and other pro-2nd amendment groups to abandon their efforts. There’s still a ton of work to do with regards to castle doctrine laws, concealed carry laws, etc. We could always get a shock and the Supreme Court decides that it isn’t an individual right. That likely won’t happen but we still don’t have a clue how far a decision in favor of individual rights will roll back gun control laws.

37. #37
    On June 15th, 2008 at 7:47 pm, love2rumba said:

    We could always get a shock and the Supreme Court decides that it isn’t an individual right. That likely won’t happen but we still don’t have a clue how far a decision in favor of individual rights will roll back gun control laws.

    The problem is that as long as the Supreme Court is beset with non-constructionists, they could say just about anything on the 2nd Amendment…this in a nutshell is the problem: The Supreme Court is increasingly irrelevant, because they do not read the document and adjust their decisions for original intent…”precedent” has become a bobbing and weaving non-squitor term.

    If they don’t respect our Second Amendment rights on the court as plain as it is, then their opinion does not matter to me….

    The danger of this though is good people will get killed by criminals and government elites who will use these wacko edicts like the one where dangerous foreigners have the same Constitutional rights as we do, and the non-politically accountable judiciary will decide what goes and what doesn’t go on the War on Terror according to these wunderkind…and worse your neighbor hood “public servant” will send goon squads to confiscate your guns at the slightest excuse

38. #38
    On June 15th, 2008 at 11:40 pm, mattymatt10 said:

    #27 Atheling

    Thanks for the link!

    And just for the record, I’m not proud of the fact that I received a “stimulus.” But I figure I can at least spend it on something the Left hates.

39. #39
    On June 16th, 2008 at 11:01 am, SoonerMarine said:

    mattymatt10

    If you go to the link that Atheling provided and click on the link for the gun shows you will see that they teach the courses necessary for a CC at the show. Although, a number of people are qualified without having to go through the course. My military record established my qualifications. I went through the procedure at the show in Fredericksburg (next one is 1-2 Aug). I got the FL license rather than the VA one because they have an agreement with 37 other states to recognize their CC. It took about 2 mos after sending the money and paperwork to FL to receive my CC.

40. #40
    On June 16th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, IndependentTom said:

    Just a “What if?” here…….

    If SCOTUS decides against the individualist view of the Second Amendment and sets up a situation where the Federal Government COULD (and understand that I’m not saying they would) begin confiscation in the name of “public safety”….Wouldn’t they begin by diggiing into the CC license and over-the-counter gun sales database?