“What part of “Congress shall make no” do you mistake?”

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

So how does the McCain-Feingold Act intrude on first amendment rights?

Specifically.

Why hasn’t it been overturned in the courts if it is unconstitutional?

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On June 18th, 2008 at 5:55 pm, Bill Grant said:

RE:
McCain/Fiengold:
wrong test. What part of “Congress shall make no” do you mistake?

And, just to move things along:
the Founding Fathers were refering to political speech. The “yelling fire in a crowded theater” was a canard. It wasn’t applicable, unless somehow yelling “fire” in a crowded theater had some political tint.

As I explained to my grandson, the “Congress shall make no…” is why there can’t be “truth-in-advertising” laws applied to political commercial.

Next!

– martin.musculus

I also still have a lot of faith in the American people, that when faced with issues without a party standing out in front to dictate to them where they should stand, they side with liberty more times than not.

– Donut44

Hmm. I think that, given just the evidence provided by how many are willing to follow Obama’s path, that your faith in the wisdom of the average American voter is a bit naiive (I don’t intend that as a statement that you are naiive in general). You speak of a situation where there isn’t a party out in front of the voters telling them which way to think, but that isn’t the case. Regardless of which candidate wins the Presidency, BOTH parties will still be there, telling us which way to think.

Right now, the nation seems to be slightly leaning towards a marked lack of a long view, where it comes to their personal liberties and small government. . .preferring instead entitlements and handouts.

I can’t see the future though. Perhaps I’m overly cynical.

“All I want is to live my life with the liberty every man deserves and is entitled to have. Obama certainly won’t do it, but either will McCain. I don’t know how this idea of the “lesser of two evils” came into existence as somehow noble and better than standing firm. I guess man can talk himself into anything.”

At the end of it we are all responsible for our own liberty. McCain will help to preserve it.(even reclaim some that has been lost) Obama will make you out to be a ignorant redneck for insisting on it.

I have been trying to trace the idea that allowing Obama to win would somehow purify the GOP back to it’s source. A friend runs a PR agency and he suspects that it came out of Hill & Knowlton or Jasculca-Terman. If you or anyone else recall where you first heard it please let me know.

“To all our comrades in the McCain camp, if you want conservatives to vote for your man McCain, quit belittling those that aren’t voting for him and go make a difference.”

Very good advice. Please believe that I see a very real threat to our way of life, our country, our sovereignty and Constitution in Obama and what he advocates. Perhaps when some of us state that it sounds like hyperbole but I happen to think that is just clear vision.

Nice Bill and very persuasive!

Thank you, If I come across as snarky or rude I apologize. I am just passionate about the fact that Obama would be a catastrophe for this country. I believe McCain to be a good man and no one can question his dedication to the country itself. I know and come from some of the same traditions this man was raised with and the idea that he would betray the country out of cynicism or expedience is just plain wrong. John McCain has demonstrated that he loves the USA. Obama has demonstrated that he thinks it is populated by a bunch of bitter, constitution clinging, hillbilly bigots who haven’t been indoctrinated educated into compliance with their agenda enlightenment.

“McCain’s principles are not “freedom, individualism, the Constitution and the preservation of the United States and it’s status in the world”. His career in Congress has been an assault on all of these things”

It amazes me how you can state that. He has had 50 years of dedicated service to the USA and it has been in the service of the principals I have outlined. Do I agree with everything he has advocated? No. He is however our best hope for having influence on the government and his shift on domestic drilling and the immigration bill shows that he DOES listen. If Obama is elected he will plow right over your objections.

“For instance, McCain-Finegold was an assault on freedom and the Constitution”

I disagree with McCain/Finegold but it was not an “assault on freedom and the Constitution”. Show me who this has censored or damaged, indeed, show me what effect this has had at all. The 501c corporations have stepped right in to the void.

“And McCain-Kennedy was an assault on the United States.”

And it was resoundingly defeated, in part by the work of good people here. Your obligation to the country does not end with flipping the lever in the voting booth. Any candidate that gets elected will need to be reminded of the will of the people from time to time. McCain has vowed to peruse an enforcement first policy after the last disaster. Obama will roll right on thorough with Amnesty Plus. How do I know that Obama will do that? It is one of the things he is running on.

“McCain is diametrically opposite to me.”

Is that you Markos Moulitsas? Look, if you are an Obama supporter then that is your right. Just don’t kid yourself that you are behaving out of conservative principles, because you are not.

McCain if I recall correctly is a Senator right now, and can introduce all sorts of bills if he wants to – so why doesn’t he? He could introduce a bill to allow drilling wherever we damn well need to drill.

If he has answers why does he have to wait until after he’s elected to propose them? Doesn’t he have the best interests of our Country at heart, or am I mistaken, he has only self-interest?

On June 18th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, DBNinKY said:

If things are this bad now without drilling in ANWR, with gas at nearly five dollars a gallon and grocery and utility rates climbing, imagine how bad it will be without drilling in ANWR ten years from now.

It is time to open ANWR for drilling.

Bingo! Over 10 years ago, the libs fought the ANWR drilling by saying “it would take 10 years before we get a drop of oil.” Well, we’d have that oil on tap today if it weren’t for them.

Now they are saying the same thing. But by their own words, won’t the oil situation be far worse in another decade?

It is time to open ANWR for drilling.

Their principles are gone and party is all that matters to them. Their hatred towards us and the fact mentioned before all point to a political style that is not conservative, but reminiscent of how party politics is played, much like a union. Force everything through and down people’s throats. I have no doubt many of these same people would have no problem threatening me and my family to get what they need and want, all in the name of doing what is right in their mind.

All I want is to live my life with the liberty every man deserves and is entitled to have. Obama certainly won’t do it, but either will McCain. I don’t know how this idea of the “lesser of two evils” came into existence as somehow noble and better than standing firm. I guess man can talk himself into anything.

We have six months before election time and McCain can do some things. Go hop in his Senator chair and push through making the tax cuts permanant and setting up legislation for energy independence (offshore drilling, nuclear power, lifting refinery regulatory “junk”) and pushing this through NOW or putting that in a first 100 days pledge if elected. I will give my word that if he does this, I WILL vote for him and do so gladly.

To all our comrades in the McCain camp, if you want conservatives to vote for your man McCain, quit belittling those that aren’t voting for him and go make a difference. Calling us names and saying we are for Obama, pretending WE are the socialists, and spreading your new definition of democracy around isn’t doing it.