McCain panders to the PUMAs
McCain’s left-wing outreach campaign continues. Thought you’d like to know what he was purring into the ears of the disgruntled Hillary supporters known as “PUMAs:”
“He stayed for a good almost half hour afterwards shaking hands, listening to our concerns, talking to us,” said [Party Unity My Ass] PUMA founder Will Bower, who said he thought many of the people there would vote for McCain.
…Bower said he’d liked McCain’s answer on judges, in which he “pointed out that he supported Bill Clinton with both Ginsberg and Breyer.”
Another person who was present, but asked not to be named to avoid conflict with fellow Democrats, said he’d pressed a McCain staffer on McCain’s position on same-sex marriage.
The staffer “said it was the same as [John] Kerry’s position,” he said.
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And here is McSwish, pandering to the jiHillary’s PUMAS without his pant-suit. Republicans will be happy to hear there is not much difference between McSwish and jiHillary (it’s just so all about the sisterhood).
This McCain guy has to be denied the nomination at the convention this fall. period
“It’s a shame one of them has to win.”
– Mark Steyn
Maybe McCain will add Hillary as his running mate? Stranger things have happened.
I would not be surprised if old Juan McCain switched parties after the election, win or lose.
Well, the RNC wanted to toss us overboard in favor of a new base. I guess getting the Stalinists that supported Clinton counts as that.
All I have to say is Malkin/See-Dubya ‘08.
Have you asked yourself (if you are a guy) why McCain wants to be president when he is married to a hot younger chick whose family owns a gigantic beer distributorship?
What kind of guy who has that going for him, throws every principle of the Reagan legacy under the bus to get elected?
Just a guy who doesn’t believe any of that stuff anyway.
Can’t we go back to the days when we didn’t really know who the nominee would be until the last days of the convention, when it was decided in a smoke-filled back room? Those look like the “good old days” now and would certainly give
usthe Republicans a better candidate.Buckle up, America, we’re in for a rough 4 years’ ride.
And yet all we hear from the McCain groupies is how we have to vote for McCain in the fall because of his Supreme Court nominees… un-freaking believable…
McCain wanted to switch sides but somebody beat him to it. That speaks for itself. Everything else is just wishful thinking.
Well here’s a good way to start the week off: beating the bushes to flush the McCain apologists.
I have said this a thousand times….I WILL NOT VOTE FOR McCain….PEROID……
He and the party leadership STILL don’t get why we don’t support them?
They get it, #14; they just don’t care.
the sad thing is.. (aside from BHO and maverick at the presumptive nominees.. a solid looking democratic congress for at least the next 2 years, and a few others I’m not going to pile on..) is that IF Maverick wins the white house, then the GOP will throw the conservative under the bus for good..
Maverick will have ‘proved’ that pandering to the middle would have worked and is the way for conservatives to work now.. (despite that the democratic party might have a split ticket with Hillery/Barry)
I think the gop party leadership will herald this as the new campaign strategy from now on out…
McCain has to go somewhere to raise funds and get votes because he and the RINO led RNC won’t get a penny or many votes from most conservatives this year. He and the bitter Hillary supporters should get along just fine, now if he would only change is party affiliation to join his good buddies in the Democrat Party that he loves to cross the aisle with so much while stabbing conservatives and their principles in the back and then we can find a real candidate to run against the Obamasiah.
McCain still thinks he can win without conservatives. What arrogance.
That is why he is after the PUMAs and the middle of the roaders.
Yes, either way we’ll lose in November. The larger question is, how bad would you like it to hurt?
The latest Gallup poll has Obamalamadingdong up 11 points. This morning, the nutroots on the web are having a cyber orgy over it.
The news media is in the lefts pocket. I watched Sen Byron Dorgan on a news show this weekend fielding nothing but softball questions. He actually said “change” with this knowing grin on his face.
Obama is all but a lock this fall, McCain cant run on a platform of “I’m less bad than that other guy”.
I hate McCain, why, he’s a worse liberal democrat than Obama! He’s worse than the lesser of two evils! Anyone!!
(is that about right?)
wise_man, you misunderstand as usual.
Who is more dangerous, your up-front declared enemy or someone who says he’s your friend and that he’s on your side, but is actually a traitor to what you believe in although he may agree with you on some issues?
Did you not read the post? McCain said when asked about judges “…that he supported Bill Clinton with both Ginsberg and Breyer.” There went the last possible reason to support McVain, the last thing that might have distinguished him substantially from Obamessiah…
…Bower said he’d liked McCain’s answer on judges, in which he “pointed out that he supported Bill Clinton with both Ginsberg and Breyer.”
Does anyone still think McCain would be any better than Obama on judges?
Wow.. Wise man finally got it..
Congrats..
I’m voting for McCain…I have no choice.
However, I am also paying off as much of my debt as I can, stocking up on dry goods and filling the deep freezer.
Things are only going to get worse and more expensive as the corporations pass their tax burdens down to the consumer…thus I’m buying what I can buy when I can get it at a great price.
I’ve also started my own veggie garden with my sister…no more foreign grown veggies for us!
I figure that if I can keep my head above water for the 4 years of disaster to come (no matter who wins) then I may just survive this.
he’s pandering to PUMA’s….his wife is a cougar…lots of cat references.
i could make more about mccain, but they wouldnt be as nice
Just more pandering from a politician that doesnt give a rats behind about anything except getting elected.
I got a garden too.. and will be trying my hand at canning a few things as well..
as food from scratch.. seems cheaper that way.
I’ve noticed he’s still got Leiberman hanging around his campaign appearances.
Could he possibly be thinking McCain/Leiberman ‘08 bumper stickers?
That’s been my thinking too.
Between the rapid rise of islam, and it’s going to get worse if Obama Hussein wins, and the tax increases coming at the hands of the demoncrats, we’re in for some tough economic times.
Just a hint, spend less on stocking the freezer and learn how to can/bottle your food. If the power grid gets hit, your frozen goods will be useless in a week. Unless you have a generator and enough fuel stashed away to run it (and you don’t lose it to a roving band of thugs). Better to have it on the shelf.
And stock up on ammo.
Ammo, huh?
Who are you planning to kill in the next 4 years?
Why should I vote for this man?
WHY SHOULD I VOTE FOR THIS MAN?
I am seriously trying to find a valid reason to do it. I keep thinking that he’ll be different than a socialist like Obama, but the more that comes out of his cranky old mouth, I can’t see he’s worth a vote.
If Bob Barr wasn’t so pacificst…well, even then, he may STILL get my vote, just because I can’t stand Obama, and I can’t stand McLame, either.
I can only hope McCain is just pandering. Lots of politicians say things they never intend to get to. Then they’ll say, “I just didn’t have enough time.” As their term runs out.
But McCain is making it really hard for me to offer him any support.
I did perform a test this week. I wanted to see how long a McCain banner would last on my lawn. An Obama banner is on a lawn down the block from my house. The Obama banner has been up for over 6 months unscathed. Even had little balloons tied to banner when the Obamessiah had “beaten” Hillary.
My McCain banner lasted three days, before someone tore it up. Figures. Libs are scum.
Boo Boo comes to mind. Bambi is also a likely candidate for an invitation to dinner. Thumper is always a handy alternative in many locales.
The price of a bullet can often provide substantially more food than the cost of one trip to the grocery store. A little bit of sugar cure, a smoke house, some hard wood (and bark) and it would be a logical solution.
Higher taxes on fuel, taxing corporations … who do you think will be ultimately forced to pay for all of those extra taxes? Can you say “Consumer” boys and girls? We will all be feeling the pinch no matter who wins this election.
Throw in the threat from illegals increasing in numbers due to the prospects of full amnesty for breaking our laws, a greater number of people being incapable of maintaining their present quality of life and subsidizing it with more blatant criminal acts … well, a little preparation for defense may not be a totally bad idea either.
that’s an odd statement. does having a gun and ammo indicate that i HAVE to go kill someone with it?
No, it’s a perfectly reasonable question to ask.
If someone is going to stock up on food, then the assumed purpose is to eat it when the food supply dries up.
Apparently, this ammo supply is going to be used to kill deer, bunnies and something called “Boo Boo.”
PS–LOTE
Micheal’s Jun 13 08 – it about says it all:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/cartoon.asp
#14 I have to agree with #15, they don’t care one small bit… Pretty sad when JUAN spends more time WINNING the hearts of PUMAs than true CONSERVATIVES like me… But we TRUE CONSERVATIVES can see through this EMPTY SUIT for what he really is.
Probably the same people.
maybe i’m being picky. I dont see “boo boo” as a “who”.
“Who”, to me anyway, indicates people.
I have no idea what a “boo boo” is.
I assume it’s not the neighbor. Or a pet name for an illegal immigrant. But whatever. Stock up on ammo so you don’t shoot it. Or have boxes and boxes of ammo stored away to go target shooting at the range. Whatever.
I got a generator on 9/12.
Anyway, I don’t see why McCain should tell disaffected democrats to go to hell. He’s got a case to ask for their vote because his whole schtick is the bi-partisan appeal.
The next story I’d like to see is Obama going after the disaffected conservative vote. I can see it now – “Tired of McCain? Vote for Obama. Why vote for Bob Barr when you can vote for someonw who actually has a chance of being the next president! Be a part of history and send a message to the RNC! – Change! Hope! The greater of the two evils!”
Dave, GREAT point and one we all need to grasp! Voting for McCain is NOT voting for the lesser of two evils, but instead will be a vote for a man who is going to see his victory as a triumph over conservatives and thus, a continual move to the left to passify those who he thinks voted him in. This man is a Senator and thus an expert on getting re-elected. His goal will be to get re-elected and that will involve more pandering and not to us.
People, say, “oh come on, Obama is much more liberal”. He sure is, but it is not cloaked in anything but liberalism and thus there will be opposition. But McCain is cloaked in a republican outfit disguising his liberalism. He will be gaining support for his liberal agenda from many R’s who think it is the right thing to do, and on top of it, the media will be able to tie every bad deed to the GOP and more importantly to conservatives, who the media has been able to label as republicans and thus deep six our principles to coinciding with Republican pandering, liberalism and unethical behavior.
I am watching the last vestiges of the “hold our nose and vote McCain or I’ll cuss you out” faction vaporize….
This is no joy in this…
Any further heated discussions that we should have should be about what our options are when either McCain or Obama ascends to the
white housethrone…“
factionarguments” is what I meant“I’ll cuss you out”I’ll take that out too.McCain is a worthless piece of crap!
That sounds familiar, I know I’ve heard it from someone else…
I can’t vote for either McCain or B. Hussein. And NO wiseman, not voting is NOT like voting for someone else or whatever… It’s NOT voting period.
Keeping some necessary items handy for a rainy day is always prudent…and as for guns…when law and order is perceived to have disappeared, people the day before you might have liked and trusted will reveal themselves as very untrustworthy and quite evil the day after…in which case protecting one’s self is prudent..That is why i keep (an obviously unregistered) .357 with ammo, holster, and pouches, cans of vegetarian chili, and lots of water in case I am stuck in Seattle when I’m down at the University of Washington-and all hell has broken loose like our WTO riots from 2000.
Go ahead and bounce your yo-yo(4:30) if that will make you happy.
Yeah, not voting for McCain will have nothing to do with Obama getting more votes and winning the presidency. Sure.
Perhaps. But it’s even more arrogant for conservatives to think that they’re some kind of sine qua non king-makers.
So McCain is courting Hillary cross-over voters? That’s no revelation, just like it’s no surprise that he’ll be going after independents and “Reagan Democrats.”
It’s called electoral survival. There aren’t enough purists and perfectionists in the Republican base to win a general election; a successful Republican candidate must appeal to a broader segment of voters. Especially when the donkeys have just put up the most leftist candidate since George McGovern in 1972, it makes a great deal of sense to come across to independents and “Reagan / Scoop Jackson Democrats” as a moderate or a centrist they can turn to as an alternative.
The problem for purist and perfectionist conservatives is that by their over-heated rhetoric they are doing an excellent job of marginalizing themselves: the more they shout their insistence that they’ll never vote for McCain, the less motivation he has to tack right and the more incentive he has to look elsewhere for the votes he needs.
In the end, the purists/perfectionists will become as politically radioactive and irrelevant as the John Birch Society – heck, it still exists, why not join up? Vote for Bob Barr. Write in Ron Paul. Whatever. Who cares?
For all its faults, the one thing the Republican Party does is to serve as the most significant bulwark against donkey rule. There’s a lot not to like about it. But some of us are under no illusion about what’s on the other side of that bulwark, and that’s why come November we’ll press our shoulders against it even though it’s crumbling — that, instead of whining and complaining about how crummy it is, and how it’s not “worthy” of us, and how letting the barbarians knock it down will either have no meaningful consequences or might even be a good thing.
I leave you with George Orwell, freshened up a bit for the 21st Century landscape of American politics:
“
PacifismConservative purism and perfectionism is objectively pro-Fascistdonkey. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one…But though not much interested in the ‘theory’ of
pacifismconservative purism and perfectionism, I am interested in the psychological processes by whichpacifistsarch-conservatives who have started out with an alleged horror ofviolencedonkey rule end up with a marked tendency to be fascinated by the success and power ofNazismmoonbattery. Evenpacifistspurists and perfectionists who wouldn’t own to any such fascination are beginning to claim that aNazidonkey victory is desirable in itself.”The only thing else I will add is that John McCain isn’t going to get much of anything by pandering to PUMAs…they are government-dependent moonbats who will vote for Obama eventhough he does not send tingles up their thighs (heh, heh)
John McCain and his supporters are grasping at straws if they believe that..even his buddy John Swiss Kerry won’t support him…
Given that there will be attempts to shove liberalism down our parched throats by both parties, we are all wasting our time with “should we or should we not support McCAin” because few minds will be changed…we need to move on and discuss “how we will best effect conservatism with the circumstances we are beset with”
oh, come on. you don’t know who Boo Boo is? good grief. you fail at pop culture.
He was the friend to the creature who once claimed “I am smarter than the average bear”
Don’t you remember Yogi Bear cartoons Wise_Man?
With all due respect to the local Bear population here, yeah … Yogi Bear always told his faithful sidekick Boo Boo that he was smarter than the average bear.
He could always sniff out the picnic baskets and thus provide for him and his sidekick.
Bear meat also happens to be plentiful and filling, not to mention the fact that the skin makes a right nice jacket.
As for your stance on voting or not voting for McCain, should I point out the obvious mathematical error there? One vote less for McCain does not equate one vote more for B. Hussein. -1 does not equal 2. (Though this may be one of those fuzzy math questions that I missed when learning actual arithmetic in school?)
Personally I am quite honestly fearful of what either of these people will be able to accomplish whether they are dancing on their own side or just simply reaching across the aisle. Maybe the American populace will wise up but history does not bode well for that option. If your belief that being prepared to defend yourself is a bad idea, nobody will force you to. Still, if you have someone or something that you care about, it may be the prudent course of action.
IMHO
Very Vichy, Regulus!
I applaud you! I am certain I’d find you & your point-collecting buddy [un]wise_man handing over the keys to Paris, along with a long list of names…
If all you care about is being on the winning side, then you are absolutly right.
If, however, you are interested in doing what is right — not what is easy, you’d stand up.
BTW: a little background on that quote. Orwell was a communist and a pacifist until he got a good look at the evil of socialism. He wrote that to convince his fellow travelers that they had to drop what they were doing & do the right thing.
Are you suggesting that the right thing is to continue to creep leftward by supporting a lying creep?
Note, those not vying for McCain points:
They’ve moved the goal posts again. You’ll hear nothing for the next several days about how McCain will nominate Conservative/Centrist Judges™ It will be “He’s better than Obama”, or He’s better on the WOT, or He’s gotten it on illegal immigration (my personal favorite…)
What if Washington had just trown in the towel? He was offered forgiveness, money, rank and position to bring his army in… and this was just prior to Trenton.
I *will not* pick a lying backstabber. If he’ll cut his buddy’s throat for his own gain, (which he has, repeatedly), how is he better?
Mark this: McCain, if elected, will be our Clinton.
ok, let the flames begin…
– martin.musculus
Oh, BTW, I am soooooo tired of Johnny-on-the-Spot being held up as a bloodthirsty hawk, (I wish he were…), I will believe John McCain’s Stong on Defense™ when he stops talking about draining the strategic oil reserve!
There! This REALLY convinces me Johnny’s the LOTE! If you spelled it lout, I might agree.
AND: [un]wise-man, regulus, all you other MightyMcCain sockpuppets, don’t bothr to respond unless you are going to say something substantive, not more of this: “he’s better than obama”, or “yes, go ahead & vote for the >2 evils”, or any other such mis-directive crap. If you are only able to argue on those grounds, you have no argument!
We (Those Who Question McCain) supply substantive problems w/McCain, you answer with “a vote not for McCain is a vote for Obama” mis-directive crap.
You are a bunch of stage magicians, all.
– martin.musculus
Regulus>>>Wow>>>sine qua non….
He may try to get along without us…
no campaign is PERFECT…
I’m not even “hurt” if he tries…
If he gets all of Hillary’s female voters…He doesn’t little ol’ me…
A little Latin is good for the soul….
Thank you.
I wonder if M. Ramiriz knows Latin?
He sure has deep insight to the world:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/cartoon.asp
# 59
He doesn’t need little ol’ me..
I got wrapped up in the Latin.
He already has in all but name.
So out of touch…..SO OUT OF TOUCH!
And yet McCain is campaigning before Republican voters in saying that his model for a S.C. judge is John Roberts.
Since I think Roberts is about the best thing that’s happened in my time to the S.C. (and McCain gets my support for what he’s saying in that regard), and since Ginsberg and Breyer are nearly the polar opposites of Roberts as to “mind” and reason — plus they have that added thing called “Liberal” “intent” that prejudices all their perspectives — how McCain can say both these things simultaneously is beyond me.
If he thinks Ginsberg and Breyer were to be “supported” as nominees, and he now says his model for who he’d nominate is John Roberts, what’s the truth?
Apparently, the “Truth” is a “foreign” policy to most politicians.