Comments on: Gitmo ruling fallout

By: Senate Conservatives Fund

Senate Conservatives Fund — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:21:29 +0000

Gitmo detainees should go to Vermont…

WSJ reports this morning that President Bush may close Gitmo and do away with military commissions for trying enemy combatants:
The Bush Administration is currently debating how to respond to Mr. Kennedy’s war-fighting ukase in Boumediene v. Bush…

By: kurthanson

kurthanson — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:29:23 +0000

Solution – don’t take anymore prisoners.

By: The_Livewire

The_Livewire — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:25:05 +0000

Once again showing liberalism is a mental disorder, Rusty.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:06:45 +0000

Hay, if anything, your stupid sentiments should be fodder for our cause. Here we are, the city liberals, the ones actually in danger of terrorism, and liberals support this SCOTUS decision.

By: hayroller15

hayroller15 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:48:01 +0000

To hell with you liberals. When they pop a nuke off in one of your filthy infested cities so be it. You idiots have no clue.

By: Send_Me

Send_Me — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:38:03 +0000

On June 17th, 2008 at 9:08 pm, The_Livewire said:
Kill. Them. All.
Saves us the trouble of hearings (which we’ve had) and releasing them only to blow them up when they attach later. (which they’ve done)
Everyone wins.

While I can relate to the emotional sentiment here, this line of thinking will only hinder, not help, the war effort. Here’s why:
1) Dead enemies don’t talk, hence no human intelligence from interrogations.
2) Tell me, how effective was it to kill Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi? Oh, yeah, someone else slid right into his spot and continued fighting, hence, arguably, no value added to the fight.
3) If you “kill’em all,” then why should the Iraqis work with us and not our enemies? What’s the motivation? We need to work by, with, and through the Iraqis if we are to win.
“Killing them all” is not the way to win a counterinsurgency.

By: The_Livewire

The_Livewire — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:08:05 +0000

INAL, but isn’t habeus corpus a legal concept for American citizens?

*shrug* This just means we capture them we turn them over to the gentle enlightned hands of the Iraqis.

Or just kill them when we catch them, all nice and neat in the Geneva convention.

Sound good to you, Rusty, Red State? non-uniformed personel committing attacks against non-military targets. Kill. Them. All.

Saves us the trouble of hearings (which we’ve had) and releasing them only to blow them up when they attach later. (which they’ve done)

Everyone wins.

By: cicerokid

cicerokid — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:12:07 +0000

HC should be suspended. America has been invaded by 15 million from the south, and how about that public safety, then?

By: John Yoo Says Gitmo Ruling Damages National Security | THE HOT JOINTS

John Yoo Says Gitmo Ruling Damages National Security | THE HOT JOINTS — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:03:55 +0000

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By: Ahh a Lion!

Ahh a Lion! — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:02:26 +0000

Thanks Dakine,
That fact is that conservatism, by it’s very nature, requires a healthy distrust of government power. To worship at the altar of Big Government and give away our rights for the devil’s trade of security, is the fastest way to lose everything that we fight to protect in the first place. History is clear, and the authors of the constitution knew it, that the greatest threat to a country, is it’s own government.

Our political leaders in the GOP have wholeheartedly embraced Global Authoritarianism as the solution to all problems. We complain when we hear about high taxes, government bailouts, welfare programs, carbon tax, and the loss of our sovereignty, yet we embrace that same government to ignore the constitution while constructing enormous bureaucracies and agencies, printing money, and waging foreign wars in the name of securing our homeland.

By: dakine

dakine — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:28:38 +0000

Lion and Red State, thanks for your thoughtful and original takes…I agree wholeheartedly. Rare stuff around here.

By: Send_Me

Send_Me — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:26:27 +0000

On June 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:
Are you seriously comparing the retrograde cave-dwelling ~~Arab~~ terrorists to the Persian Armies of Sparta’s time?

Hmmm, the Quds Force, Badr Corps, Hezbollah, Hamas, al Sadr and his little band… Why yes, they are all Persians, or at least Persian-trained/supported.

By: DBNinKY

DBNinKY — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:42:15 +0000

From the McCarthy/NRO article:

The combatants have not been ordered released, and the narrow majority did not presume to prescribe a procedure for how the district courts should handle those cases.

That is the job of Congress, and it must act now[...]it is Congress that enacts rules of procedure and evidence. We do not leave judges free to make it up as they go along. How much less should we do so with respect to combatant detention — a war power as to which judges have no institutional competence?

Hopefully, all is not yet lost and there is still time for Congress to act in countering this horrific decision, before the detainee law suits begin; I understand Sen. Graham has already been busy getting a bi-partisan plan together for that purpose.

By: guspapa

guspapa — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:16:31 +0000

Turn them loose in Cuba, sure they would receive a warm welcome, or, send them to Baghdad and let the Maliki government welcome them

By: rightisright

rightisright — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:23:24 +0000

If the game is to be played by rules and laws set down by an in appropriate judicial ruling, the fix is obvious. Capture the combatants, ship ‘em where they can be held and interrogated or take no prisoners. ..that does mean overlook the combatants. And I don’t really give a sheet what eurarabia thinks about us either.