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		<title>By: corona</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-354337</link>
		<dc:creator>corona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those couples [sic], by the way, include ... A special congratulations to them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow - this supposedly &lt;em&gt;conservative&lt;/em&gt; site endorses a blogger who openly &lt;strong&gt;supports same-sex pseudo-marriage&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those couples [sic], by the way, include &#8230; A special congratulations to them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow &#8211; this supposedly <em>conservative</em> site endorses a blogger who openly <strong>supports same-sex pseudo-marriage</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: bigboy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-353648</link>
		<dc:creator>bigboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, AKGRIZ...I certainly understand how this gets tough to interpret; in real life I&#039;ve published a pile of stuff on internet law and the Communications Decency Act, along with a bunch of stuff on sexual harassment and electronic communication...anyway, the point being that I had written a line in a manuscript that referred to a &quot;porn-laden web&quot; and one of my attorney co-authors gave me the lecture on specific meaning (incidentally, we kept the line in, as we demonstrated that the Web really did have a ton of true porn). 

My point in this is that regardless of how offensive we may find something, it takes quite a bit for it to become pornographic. And you&#039;ve got to trust me on this, from what Patterico showed, nothing Kosinsky had crosses that line  (personally, the &quot;cow-girls&quot; didn&#039;t bother me but the priest stuff does). If I were in Kosinky&#039;s shoes, I&#039;d go after the deepest pockets that made claims of providing pornography...it&#039;s defamation of the highest order. Interesting discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, AKGRIZ&#8230;I certainly understand how this gets tough to interpret; in real life I&#8217;ve published a pile of stuff on internet law and the Communications Decency Act, along with a bunch of stuff on sexual harassment and electronic communication&#8230;anyway, the point being that I had written a line in a manuscript that referred to a &#8220;porn-laden web&#8221; and one of my attorney co-authors gave me the lecture on specific meaning (incidentally, we kept the line in, as we demonstrated that the Web really did have a ton of true porn). </p>
<p>My point in this is that regardless of how offensive we may find something, it takes quite a bit for it to become pornographic. And you&#8217;ve got to trust me on this, from what Patterico showed, nothing Kosinsky had crosses that line  (personally, the &#8220;cow-girls&#8221; didn&#8217;t bother me but the priest stuff does). If I were in Kosinky&#8217;s shoes, I&#8217;d go after the deepest pockets that made claims of providing pornography&#8230;it&#8217;s defamation of the highest order. Interesting discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: alaskangrizzly</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-353243</link>
		<dc:creator>alaskangrizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but you really can’t call what the judge put up pornography&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It really comes down to how pornography is defined. The dictionary definition in most versions defines it as sexual content with the intended effect of causing sexual excitement.

The judge himself already admits to posting &quot;sexual content&quot; so the only thing left to decide is if it was meant to cause sexual excitement or not. I merely argue that if people are going to get up in arms about prosti-tot clothes being over the line (which I agree with) for promoting an image that sexualizes children then it is hard to argue that images like what was found on the judge&#039;s computer was not sexual in nature and intended to arouse.

I guess if I were to win my case with you and Rusty I would need to take some of the pictures in question and take a poll of as many US citizens as possible and ask if they saw this would it get them rev&#039;ed up. We all know how much stock liberals put in polls after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but you really can’t call what the judge put up pornography</p></blockquote>
<p>It really comes down to how pornography is defined. The dictionary definition in most versions defines it as sexual content with the intended effect of causing sexual excitement.</p>
<p>The judge himself already admits to posting &#8220;sexual content&#8221; so the only thing left to decide is if it was meant to cause sexual excitement or not. I merely argue that if people are going to get up in arms about prosti-tot clothes being over the line (which I agree with) for promoting an image that sexualizes children then it is hard to argue that images like what was found on the judge&#8217;s computer was not sexual in nature and intended to arouse.</p>
<p>I guess if I were to win my case with you and Rusty I would need to take some of the pictures in question and take a poll of as many US citizens as possible and ask if they saw this would it get them rev&#8217;ed up. We all know how much stock liberals put in polls after all.</p>
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		<title>By: bigboy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-353093</link>
		<dc:creator>bigboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez...I thought I gave a pretty clear explanation earlier, and Rusty&#039;s the only one that gets it. Calling Kosinsky a pornographer for posting offensive material is like calling someone a child molester for spanking their kid.

Maybe it&#039;s just the difference between conservative libertarians and the rest of you showing up here...but you really can&#039;t call what the judge put up pornography, and to keep insisting that he has posted pornography smacks of the typical lefty meme of &quot;smear till it sticks.&quot; Glad you get it Rusty...one more time to the rest of you...offensive, yes; bad judgment, yes; pornography...NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez&#8230;I thought I gave a pretty clear explanation earlier, and Rusty&#8217;s the only one that gets it. Calling Kosinsky a pornographer for posting offensive material is like calling someone a child molester for spanking their kid.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just the difference between conservative libertarians and the rest of you showing up here&#8230;but you really can&#8217;t call what the judge put up pornography, and to keep insisting that he has posted pornography smacks of the typical lefty meme of &#8220;smear till it sticks.&#8221; Glad you get it Rusty&#8230;one more time to the rest of you&#8230;offensive, yes; bad judgment, yes; pornography&#8230;NO!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Hey, Associated Press: You owe me at least $132,125!</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-352814</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Hey, Associated Press: You owe me at least $132,125!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Patterico, whose enterprising work on the Judge Kozinski case I mentioned this morning. The AP quoted from one of his blog posts just yesterday. Sample: A federal appeals [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Patterico, whose enterprising work on the Judge Kozinski case I mentioned this morning. The AP quoted from one of his blog posts just yesterday. Sample: A federal appeals [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 29Victor</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-352538</link>
		<dc:creator>29Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression that the AP thought that linking to someone else&#039;s article was a violation of copyright laws or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that the AP thought that linking to someone else&#8217;s article was a violation of copyright laws or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inappropriate does not equal pornographic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inappropriate does not equal pornographic.</p>
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		<title>By: alaskangrizzly</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-352462</link>
		<dc:creator>alaskangrizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, Rusty said: 
AK, what exactly on the site was meant for sexual excitement?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll take the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,367801,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;word of the owner&lt;/a&gt; over your lack of ability to recognize sexual content anyday Demon Puppet:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In an interview with the Times last week, Kozinski acknowledged posting sexual content on his Web site.&lt;/strong&gt; He defended some of the adult content as &quot;funny,&quot; &lt;strong&gt;but conceded that other postings were inappropriate&lt;/strong&gt;, the newspaper said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, Rusty said:<br />
AK, what exactly on the site was meant for sexual excitement?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll take the <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,367801,00.html" rel="nofollow">word of the owner</a> over your lack of ability to recognize sexual content anyday Demon Puppet:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>In an interview with the Times last week, Kozinski acknowledged posting sexual content on his Web site.</strong> He defended some of the adult content as &#8220;funny,&#8221; <strong>but conceded that other postings were inappropriate</strong>, the newspaper said.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AK, what exactly on the site was meant for sexual excitement?

Abstract, I&#039;m not arguing that there aren&#039;t things on there that people would find offensive. I take offense to the animalization of women. Others are going to be bothered by a costume that makes light of the Catholic pedophilia scandal. But a judge has the same right as any one else to have that stuff up on the Internet.

And I still insist the stain glass window is hilarious. Unintentional funny is often the best kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AK, what exactly on the site was meant for sexual excitement?</p>
<p>Abstract, I&#8217;m not arguing that there aren&#8217;t things on there that people would find offensive. I take offense to the animalization of women. Others are going to be bothered by a costume that makes light of the Catholic pedophilia scandal. But a judge has the same right as any one else to have that stuff up on the Internet.</p>
<p>And I still insist the stain glass window is hilarious. Unintentional funny is often the best kind.</p>
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		<title>By: alaskangrizzly</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-352369</link>
		<dc:creator>alaskangrizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nothing on the judge’s website qualifies as pornography since nothing on the site was intended to cause sexual excitement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only people with &quot;your kind of mind&quot; would ever say such an asinine statement. And my analogy is spot on, which is why this story is newsworthy to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nothing on the judge’s website qualifies as pornography since nothing on the site was intended to cause sexual excitement.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only people with &#8220;your kind of mind&#8221; would ever say such an asinine statement. And my analogy is spot on, which is why this story is newsworthy to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: abstractmind</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-352355</link>
		<dc:creator>abstractmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Rusty said: &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just for being fair...i notice your objection to the cows, and not the priests&#039; display, which would likewise be offensive to a great many people.

So its ok to make fun of the clergy, but not the rest?

That&#039;s not liberal mentality.  No sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Rusty said: </p></blockquote>
<p>Just for being fair&#8230;i notice your objection to the cows, and not the priests&#8217; display, which would likewise be offensive to a great many people.</p>
<p>So its ok to make fun of the clergy, but not the rest?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not liberal mentality.  No sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-352351</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing on the judge&#039;s website qualifies as pornography since nothing on the site was intended to cause sexual excitement.

It would be one thing if he owned pornography that was made or distributed by the defendant. But that wasn&#039;t the case.

Your analogy saying that crack addicts shouldn&#039;t preside over prosecutions of crack dealers is misguided. It&#039;s more like saying a judge who drinks alcohol shouldn&#039;t preside over a crack case. After all, they&#039;re both drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing on the judge&#8217;s website qualifies as pornography since nothing on the site was intended to cause sexual excitement.</p>
<p>It would be one thing if he owned pornography that was made or distributed by the defendant. But that wasn&#8217;t the case.</p>
<p>Your analogy saying that crack addicts shouldn&#8217;t preside over prosecutions of crack dealers is misguided. It&#8217;s more like saying a judge who drinks alcohol shouldn&#8217;t preside over a crack case. After all, they&#8217;re both drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: dominigan</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/17/wwwpattericocom/comment-page-1/#comment-352310</link>
		<dc:creator>dominigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, alaskangrizzly&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL!  Great minds think a like!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, alaskangrizzly</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL!  Great minds think a like!</p>
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		<title>By: dominigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dominigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On June 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Rusty said:

Regardless, the judge hasn’t done anything wrong or illegal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean besides hosting pornography on a public website, while presiding over court cases involving pornography and showing definite favoritism toward pornographers?  It doesn&#039;t bother you that this is a clear case of conflict of interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On June 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Rusty said:</p>
<p>Regardless, the judge hasn’t done anything wrong or illegal.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean besides hosting pornography on a public website, while presiding over court cases involving pornography and showing definite favoritism toward pornographers?  It doesn&#8217;t bother you that this is a clear case of conflict of interest?</p>
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		<title>By: alaskangrizzly</title>
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		<dc:creator>alaskangrizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Regardless, the judge hasn’t done anything wrong or illegal. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course not, I mean a judge presiding over a case with a porn maker being charged while having his own porn on his website is like a crack addict being the judge over the case of a crack dealer. 

Nothing wrong with that. /sarc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Regardless, the judge hasn’t done anything wrong or illegal. </p></blockquote>
<p>Of course not, I mean a judge presiding over a case with a porn maker being charged while having his own porn on his website is like a crack addict being the judge over the case of a crack dealer. </p>
<p>Nothing wrong with that. /sarc</p>
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