Defining atrocity: Marines vs. the Haditha Smear Merchants

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 18, 2008 09:39 AM

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My syndicated column today recounts how the Haditha smear merchants from John Murtha to the NYSlimes to the world media hanged the Marines before a single formal charge had been filed. (And I know I don’t have to worry about the AP quoting from it, because the MSM doesn’t want you to remember its Haditha=My Lai smears.)

Ben Johnson sums it up nicely: Murtha lied, Marines tried.

Defining atrocity,” indeed.

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U.S. Marines vs. Haditha smear merchants
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008

Yet another U.S. Marine, Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, had charges dropped Tuesday in the so-called Haditha massacre—bringing the total number of Marines who’ve been cleared or won case dismissals in the Iraq war incident to seven. “Undue command influence” on the prosecution led to the outcome in Chessani’s case. Bottom line: That’s zero for seven for military prosecutors, with one trial left to go.

I repeat: Haditha prosecution goes 0-7. But you won’t see that headline in the same Armageddon-sized font The New York Times used repeatedly when the story first broke.

The Times, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa, and the rest of the anti-war drum-pounders who fueled the smear campaign against the troops two years ago should hang their hands in shame. They won’t, of course. Perpetuating the “cold-blooded Marines” narrative means never having to say you’re sorry.

It means never having to look Lt. Col. Chessani (charges dismissed), Lt. Andrew Grayson (acquitted), Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum (charges dismissed), Capt. Lucas McConnell (charges dismissed), Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt (charges dismissed), Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz (charges dismissed), Sgt. Frank Wuterich (awaiting trial) and their families in the eyes and apologize for the preemptive character assassination they all faced at the hands of the hyperventilating, noose-hanging press.

Murtha and company applied Queen of Hearts (”Off with their heads!”) treatment to our own men and women in uniform while giving more benefit of the doubt to foreign terror suspects at Gitmo. It is worth recalling, because the press won’t do it for you, what they concluded about the now-crumbling Haditha case in the summer of 2006 before a single formal charge had been filed.

MSNBC hangman Keith Olbermann, who couldn’t wait to define the entire war in Iraq by a single moment about which he knew nothing, inveighed that the incident was “willful targeted brutality.” Due process? For convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, of course. For our military? Never mind.

Far-left The Nation magazine railed, “Enough details have emerged … to conclude that … members of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment perpetrated a massacre.” The publication also judged the event “a willful, targeted brutality designed to send a message to Iraqis. Not content with hanging the troops, the Nation pinned blame on the president and a so-called “culture of impunity” that supposedly permeates the most accountable military in the world.

Singing the same tune as The Nation, The New York Times spilled a flood of front-page ink on the case and took things a step further in a lead editorial blaming not just President Bush, but also top Pentagon brass for the “nightmare” killings in Haditha. Times reporter Paul von Zielbauer filed over 30 stories on the case, which the paper wishfully called the “defining atrocity” of the Iraq war.

Hoping to facilitate a self-fulfilling prophecy, media tools around the world likened Haditha to the Vietnam War’s most infamous atrocity—from The Guardian ( “My Lai on the Euphrates?“) to the Australian Daily Telegraph ( “Massacre in Iraq just like My Lai“) to the Los Angeles Times (”What happened at the Iraqi My Lai?“) to The New York Times’ Maureen Dowd (”My Lai acid flashback“) and the Associated Press, which reached into its photo archives to run a 1970 file photo of My Lai to illustrate a Haditha article.

And, of course, there’s the permanent stain left by the slanderous propaganda of Rep. Murtha—the stab in the Marines’ backs heard ’round the world: “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.”

Relatives of the Haditha Marines have called for Congress to censure Murtha, who cuts and runs to the nearest elevator when questioned about the Haditha dismissals.

He and the Haditha smear merchants have skated while the men and their families suffered global whippings on the airwaves and eternal demonization in print.

Whose “culture of impunity”?

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  1. #353035
    On June 18th, 2008 at 9:46 am, Christian Soldier said:

    William Russell vs Murtha>>>>

    Whom would you choose?!!!

    http://www.williamrussellforcongress.com/

  2. #353036
    On June 18th, 2008 at 9:47 am, abstractmind said:

    I read this a few minutes ago before it was posted here, on the townhall.com site.

    Spot on, Michelle.
    Thank you for keeping this in the limelight, while the MSM and others like John Murtha run and hide from their own words.

    Let’s get this last man in front of the courts and let him have his day to prove himself.

  3. #353038
    On June 18th, 2008 at 9:49 am, J S Ragman said:

    Bravo, Michelle.

    Unlike the MSM, you got it right; ready, aim, fire.

  4. #353041
    On June 18th, 2008 at 9:50 am, Christian Soldier said:

    Of course>>> the group that defended Lt.Col.Chessani:

    http://www.thomasmore.org/qry/page.taf?id=14

  5. #353043
    On June 18th, 2008 at 9:51 am, Christian Soldier said:

    Support all who are on OUR side>>>>>

  6. #353044
    On June 18th, 2008 at 9:52 am, expat said:

    Excellent article MM. As usual you cut to the chase and expose the hypocrisy of the Dhimms time after time.

    Those Marines are owed an apology from all who attacked them at the outset. They should also be allowed to civily go after Murtha and anyone else who slandered them.

    Wake up PA and get rid of this tired piece of C@#p. Oh how foolish you will look if he gets reelected, especially with a true patriot running against him.

  7. #353050
    On June 18th, 2008 at 9:59 am, vickisoup said:

    This case makes me so angry that I can’t muster any comment beyond condemning such frightening and powerful (in a bad way) rhetoric. Jack Murtha should lose everything he owns to civil judgments in favor of these brave heroes defamed by his wrongful accusations.
    :-(

  8. #353051
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:01 am, cicerokid said:

    “America is a downright mean country”. Michelle obammaramma was right! She was talking about Murtha, right?

  9. #353054
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:05 am, Sergeant Tim said:

    SSgt Wuterich’s charges have been reduced from killing 24 “in cold blood” (as jerk Murtha said) to 9 counts of voluntary manslaughter. Some might find — including a jury — that the heat of battle (and not even hot blood) is reasonable doubt and acquit Wuterich of all charges.

  10. #353055
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:05 am, martin.musculus said:

    My, I have to have my trifocals checked.

    What it said:

    The Times, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa, and the rest of the anti-war…

    What I saw, (@ 1st take):

    The Times Rep. John Murtha, D-NYT, and the rest of the anti-war…

    Well, on 2nd thought, there really isn’t a difference, is there…

    – martin.musculus

  11. #353056
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:09 am, josetheguerilla said:

    Brovo-Zulu MM. Good column!!!!!!

  12. #353060
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:11 am, mymanpotsandpans said:

    Seymour Hirsch could not be fisked for comment.

  13. #353061
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:14 am, BobK said:

    Michelle, you are a true gem. Your support for our troops is an inspiration for many. You are always there for them and us Vets.

  14. #353064
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:21 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    I hear they spent $38 million (or more)
    to hang these Marines. I wonder how it feels to spend 38 mil and be nothing but a loser at the end of it. Answer: they feel nothing it was on the tax payer’s dime!

  15. #353067
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:31 am, cpodug said:

    Wish I could remember where I heard it, but at the end of a trial ending in acquittal, the defendant said, “Which office to I go to to get my reputation back?” Seems appropriate for these Marines, somehow. Maybe Murtha’s office? Have a heart-to-heart discussion with John, and point out the error of his ways? It might not restore their honor, but I’ll bet it would feel good.

  16. #353071
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:35 am, tre said:

    #14 Goldwater Knight

    For $38 million the Pentagon could have bought another F16 Fighting Falcon fighter or another M1 Abrams tank.

    Instead, it was wasted trying to railroad some of our brave men.

  17. #353094
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:47 am, WarTip said:

    Conspiracy Theory and Troofer Warning!

    I heard a very interesting theory on the radio. The most ethical congress in history is well on the way to taking complete control of the government. With an agreeable SCOTUS, we the people would be forced to comply.

    The theory? The Marines are the only ones with the testicular fortitude to stop such an effort when it becomes a blatant act of treason and they openly declare themselves as enemies of our Constitution and attempt to finalize their coup.

    It was just a theory … and being an Army vet, I would have to disagree a little bit … but it is an interesting theory.

    Just a thought.

    “Every time I think I am becoming delusional about what our government is trying to do, they do something like this and remind me exactly how sane I really am.”

  18. #353095
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:49 am, henryinga said:

    Hopefully Sgt. Frank Wuterich will be cleared also, and then I hope he and the rest sue Smurtha, the NYT, big mouth Olberman, and anyone else who besmirched their honorable names. Bring the cowards to shame in front of the Country as well as the rest of the world.
    I’m really being generous here, as I post, for if I stated how I really feel inside, I’d be banned from ever commenting again. How can the people of Smurtha’s district keep putting this scumbag back in office? It doesn’t speak well of their intelligence, unless of course they feel the same as he does. If that’s the case, then they’re traitors, too.

  19. #353097
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:51 am, WarTip said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:31 am, cpodug said:

    Wish I could remember where I heard it, but at the end of a trial ending in acquittal, the defendant said, “Which office to I go to to get my reputation back?” Seems appropriate for these Marines, somehow. Maybe Murtha’s office? Have a heart-to-heart discussion with John, and point out the error of his ways? It might not restore their honor, but I’ll bet it would feel good.

    May Murtha bear the honor of being one of the very few EX Marines. His shame is more than the uniform can or should ever bear. A bunk party would not be a bad thought in this case either. (Yeah libs, since he personally attacked these Marines, I see NOTHING wrong with them returning the favor)

  20. #353101
    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:58 am, radio relay said:

    For $38 million the Pentagon could have bought another F16 Fighting Falcon fighter or another M1 Abrams tank.

    Instead, it was wasted trying to railroad some of our brave men.

    Usually, I don’t agree with tre. However, there definitely needs to be a hard look taken at the Pentagon, and Marine Corps brass, too.

    Murtha, and his running dog lefties in the MSM are a given. They are despicable cowards and charlatans who deserve to be tarred and feathered. Everyone knows it. Even the left!

    But..

    The very fact that top brass (both civilian, and military) did nothing to support these Marines, is even worse! The Commandant at the time, the Joint Chiefs, the top generals in Iraq, the Secretary of Defense, the President. All stood quiet, or facilitated this injustice!!!

  21. #353108
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    War Tip,
    Marines may, in fact, have the testicular fortitude, but I don’t doubt for one minute that similarly inclined Army ground pounders wouldn’t assist.

  22. #353116
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:10 am, FlyingTigress said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am, MNUSMCDavid said:
    War Tip,
    Marines may, in fact, have the testicular fortitude, but I don’t doubt for one minute that similarly inclined Army ground pounders wouldn’t assist.

    Can we question the actual goal of the left’s ‘patriotism’, now?

  23. #353125
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:15 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Flying Tigress

    I never stopped questioning it!!…. it smells to me that the goal is a socialist led World Order kissing America….. I could be wrong, but I’m not…..lol

  24. #353127
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:16 am, martin.musculus said:

    It isn’t treason to say I’m storing ammo to use incase I’m called on to help my wife hold to her oath to “protect & defend the Constitution…”

    NB: Government officials are not of necessity synonomus with athe Constitution. I threaten none. I defend my family & my Constitution. So shall my standard proclaim!

    – martin.musculus

  25. #353138
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:21 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    In fact, Martin

    Government officials are precisely the people our Constitution permits the people to act against with prejudice, if need be. Well, until the SCOTUS 5 say otherwise, I suppose…. but…um…. that can be rectified as well, I’m sure.

  26. #353140
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:21 am, DBNinKY said:

    Murtha’s quote corrected:

    “Our troops Democrat Representatives overreacted because of the pressure on them [by Move$n.org], and they killed innocent civilians soldiers’ reputations in cold blood.”

  27. #353155
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:28 am, LC said:

    Murtha will roast in hell.

  28. #353169
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:36 am, Radiopatriot said:

    Murtha is a disgrace to his military uniform. I believe he and his ilk, including the unconscionable mainstream media who carry the water for them, are enemies of the state. They seize every opportunity to malign and attack the men and women — our nation’s sons and daughters — who willingly place themselves in harm’s way to protect and defend us against barbarians. (That’s right, the same savages who have vowed to silence us. ) Murtha and his media minions thus endanger all of us, endanger our national security.

    Murtha and Company are despicable. It is long past time to tar and feather these pigs-at-the-trough and run them out of Washington on a rail. They’re lucky we don’t try then hang them for giving aid and comfort to the enemy, like their treasonous traitorous brothers were during the Revolutionary War .

    It doesn’t take much more than cunning and ego to serve in Congress or to carry their water by the ink- barrel full. It’s an outrage. An OUTRAGE!!!

  29. #353192
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:47 am, 2manybooks2littletime said:

    “Innocent until proven guilty” was forgotten by the MSM during this situation. My heart hurts for these men and their families and all they’ve been through.

    #15:

    Wish I could remember where I heard it, but at the end of a trial ending in acquittal, the defendant said, “Which office to I go to to get my reputation back?”

    Very appropriate.

  30. #353194
    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:47 am, pueblo1032 said:

    MM, this story broke with MAJOR HEADLINES, even here in Phoenix. Today,5 paragraphs on A-8 in the local RAG. No apology, not even a WHOOOPS. Disgusting!!! Thank heaven we out here in the masses have INTERNET BLOGS to at least let us sort out the truth…

  31. #353218
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, DesertLover said:

    pueblo1032

    I’m currently out of town … was that the headline in the “Repugnant” or the “Spitoon”, as JD Hayworth calls them?

  32. #353220
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, RedDog said:

    It just dawned on me that Maureen Dowd and the rest of the left-wing media arm always fall into these self made traps. I really believe they are mostly smart people but their reportage is incredibly lazy. It is routinely lazy because they know, subconciously, that they have so much political and professional cover that even if wrong they will be protected.

    So, therefore it seems, their selfish politics means more to them than their professional and personal integrity. This is why kids need to be taught that liberalism is a sign of soft headed thinking and weak character. Like crack, it’s whack, don’t do it.

  33. #353253
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, traveler49 said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 10:47 am, WarTip said:
    Conspiracy Theory and Troofer Warning!

    I heard a very interesting theory on the radio. The most ethical congress in history is well on the way to taking complete control of the government. With an agreeable SCOTUS, we the people would be forced to comply……

    I’m so un-PC that I will actually name the radio host you heard that on. It was Michael Savage. He has been following this from the beginning and called it spot on.

  34. #353258
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, love2rumba said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:16 am, martin.musculus said:
    It isn’t treason to say I’m storing ammo to use incase I’m called on to help my wife hold to her oath to “protect & defend the Constitution…”

    NB: Government officials are not of necessity synonomus with athe Constitution. I threaten none. I defend my family & my Constitution. So shall my standard proclaim!

    – martin.musculus

    kEEP PLENTY OF .223 Remington Handy-Black Hills 75 grain Match Grade Hollowpoint is good for just about any occasion.

  35. #353264
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, traveler49 said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, love2rumba said:
    kEEP PLENTY OF .223 Remington Handy-Black Hills 75 grain Match Grade Hollowpoint is good for just about any occasion.

    Especially weddings!

  36. #353269
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, WarTip said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    War Tip,
    Marines may, in fact, have the testicular fortitude, but I don’t doubt for one minute that similarly inclined Army ground pounders wouldn’t assist.

    By God I fear the day but not the task. I would be glad to stand by your side. My Dad and a few of my brothers were in the Corps. They always told me the reason they joined was that no matter what, someone would always have your back. Well … I will be there should the occasion arise. (though I may need a place to roll out my bedroll)

    Yes. It was Michael Savage and dare I say the only argument I have with him is the occasional call for govt intervention and that he is not quite Conservative enough.

    I treasure the day I was allowed to participate in this forum where I do not feel so alone. However, that reflects my personal opinion and not necessarily those of my beloved hostess here. While Michael Savage may not be much loved here, at least he did support these Marines from day one.

  37. #353278
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, henryinga said:

    Can you imagine the outcry of the MSM and democrats if anyone in the defense Department, Marine Corp or President Bushes staff had publicly defended those Marines? They would have been vilified and burned at the stake for trying to cover up the “CRIMES” comitted by those brave Marines. Like someone posted earlier, they would have been accused of applying undue pressure on the prosecutor not to pursue the case.
    I think radio relay owes them an apology for lumping them in with Smurtha and the rest of the dirtbags who publicly falsely accused, tried and found them guilty of crimes while the investigations were still on going.

  38. #353282
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, WarTip said:

    I am sure some of us will have some reloaders handy. I make some really cool rounds for 12 gauge (garot rounds, though I need some guitar string … and great in the bush) 30-06 and the .44 special and magnum.

    If I may be allowed one moment of self-aggrandizement please.

    The one on your right is a .50 cal my Dad and I made. The one on the left is a charter arms .44 home made rounds that will pierce grade three military Kevlar.

  39. #353297
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Ahhh War Tip!

    My weapons du jour are presently a S&W Model 6015 .357 5 shot with 3in barrel… my CC weapon…. but I only have a .30-.30 Marlin lever action with scope and a Wingmaster 12 gauge….. and my questionable but trusty intellect…lol

  40. #353308
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, WarTip said:

    Why put a scope on a .30/.30? They are only good out to about 300 or 350 meters? Got an M1 Garand a fellow could borrow? We had a thousand meter range on our ranch. The same distance my Dad shot when he took number one in the Corps and went down to Cuba when they showed Fidel’s boys up when he got done marching around Korea.

    Then again, I can pop a ground hog at 250 meters with a .22/.250 ;)

    Gun Control means hitting what you aim at under fire. Always wanted to try a Barrett .50 but I think it would be awkward (and slow) in close distance.

    Then again, you ever see “We Were Soldiers” … I bet we could make some nice rounds for the .357

    Just sayin …

    Again, I fear the day, not the task or the price!

  41. #353317
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:32 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    War Tip…. I used the 30-30 in PA for deer hunting in the mountains near Penn State. you couldn’t see clear at 150….lol but you’re right about it anyway.
    I may fear the day but I won’t blink when I need to stand .

  42. #353319
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, right_on said:

    “Enough details rumors and inuendos have emerged … to conclude that … members of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment perpetrated a massacre.”

    There…now that’s factual!

    The Nation of Socialist Propaganda magazine displays it’s hatred for anything that helps support democracy, all while benefitting from it. It does seem odd to me, that these type of rackets in democracies, are NOT the ones ever targeted by arsonists, protesters, or other demented crazies! I wonder why that is?

  43. #353327
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, WarTip said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, right_on said: It does seem odd to me, that these type of rackets in democracies, are NOT the ones ever targeted by arsonists, protesters, or other demented crazies! I wonder why that is?

    Because the USA is a Constitutional Republic and was warned of imminent death as a sovereign nation if and when we ever attempted to turn it into a democracy? (As we have?)

  44. #353330
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Storm Chaser said:

    This is no surprise. They are the same folks or the children of leftists who gave we returning Vietnam Era veterans such a fine welcome when we came home.

    Political correctness forces them to wear supportive faces, but when they see an opportunity the masks come off. Their mistake was they were so obscesed with turning Iraq into Vietnam and an incident into Pinkville they failed to realize outcomes might not fit their scripts.

    It probably isn’t possible, but I wish those Marines could sue the leftists who pre- judged them for everything they have.

  45. #353335
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, Ordinary Coloradan said:

    Could the families simply hire someone to go to every public appearance, every press conference, and repetedly and pointedly ask him when he will apologize for his slander of these fine Marines?

    CONSTANT. Do NOT let up. Let his constituents knwo they are voting for a fundamentally deranged, dishonest and traitorous SOB. Repeatedly. EVERY TIME.

    It might eventually sink in to even their thick heads in Johsntown, homeof the stooge voters.

  46. #353341
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, WarTip said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Storm Chaser said:

    I remember going to the Navy base in Jacksonville Florida and taking off the copper bracelet I had on because the MIA returned. I was maybe nine at the time but I remember watching soldiers (Navy pilots since my biological father was in the Navy) getting off the planes. I do NOT remember anybody spitting there but I do remember what you are saying. Just please remember that some of us did and still do appreciate your service.

  47. #353355
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, right_on said:

    Wartip, have you ever noticed how many of those who railed against us during Uncle Ho’s war, are doing just so darn well, now?

    I mean, Hanoi Jane takes the cake, but there are so many here in California, who are still hippies at heart, and tow the Democrat Party line, who have done remarkedly well for themselves in this capitalistic world they pretend to hate so much.

    The acid they took back then, has evolved into venom, as they strike out against the very people who protect, and defend them. I know, we are diminished by every life that is lost, but I have trouble feeling for these types, when their venom turns cancerous, and removes them from the gene pool. I just can’t help saving my grief for our warrior-partiots.

  48. #353359
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:55 pm, thirteen28 said:

    To borrow a line from Frontpagemag.com, “Murtha Lied, Marines were Tried.”

    (And I’d add, lying trolls at MM.com celebrated, at least until these charges started dropping like flies in a cloud of insecticide).

  49. #353363
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, jroberts said:

    is anyone saying they didn’t kill a bunch of civilians? All the courts have found is that they’re not legally culpable for it. The courts haven’t said that the Marines in question didn’t kill a lot of civilians.

    And how come when the judicial branch finds that a handful of marines aren’t criminally responsible for killing a bunch of civilians, this is taken as a sign that they aren’t guilty of killing civilians, but when the judicial branch finds, for the 3rd time, the Guantanamo detainees need to be treated as either criminals or as POWs, this is a sign that the judicial branch hates America? Either judicial rulings are valid or they aren’t; either both Haditha and Guantanamo are independent of the courts or the courts’ decision matters. It doesn’t make any sense to point to one judicial ruling as proof of innocence on the one hand and another as irrelevant and evil on the other. That is, if this ruling means that the Marines are actually innocent, then the Guantanamo detainees actually deserve habeas corpus hearings. If the Guantanamo detainees don’t deserve habeas hearings, then this court decision is totally irrelevant to the 8 Marines’ guilt or innocence.

  50. #353367
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, WarTip said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, right_on said:

    Wartip, have you ever noticed how many of those who railed against us during Uncle Ho’s war, are doing just so darn well, now?

    Have you noticed how many of them have done so well in the federal system of education indoctrination?

    If you have some way besides abortion or watering the tree of liberty to remove them from the gene pool … I am all ears.

    The fact that these people are “teaching” our children is what feeds much of my “paranoia” and thoughts that it is almost time to water the tree of liberty. Feelings? For these people? Sorry, and I pray that God will forgive me, but I have none for these people.

    I share your Grief my friend … I share your grief.

  51. #353369
    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Lan Astaslem said:

    Well said Michelle!

    I waded into the muck that is the liberal side of the blogosphere. Still no mention on HuffPoo, no mention by the Kossacks, and the only stories by the DUmmies include many, many deleted comments. Those comments that were left compare our fine Marines to the SS. Hey liberals — You stay classy now!!

    /I need a shower

  52. #353375
    On June 18th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, WarTip said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, jroberts said: Either judicial rulings are valid or they aren’t

    The Marines were cleared by a Military Tribunal. That has nothing to do with the SCOTUS jumping in AFTER (a reluctant) congress has complied with their wishes and they remain unsatisfied.

    Let the Military try those who are found in question during military actions. Let the SCOTUS rule on the Constitutionality of lower courts. Do NOT allow the SCOTUS to jump in and legislate from the bench.

    Apples and oranges.

  53. #353379
    On June 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    jroberts

    I will never equate the Guantanamo scum with Marines… yes I’m prejudiced…

    Because the 5 Scotus morons voted the way they did… Geneva Convention rules you want? Fine…. no witnesses, no prisoners and no collateral issues to worry about.

  54. #353385
    On June 18th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, Regulus said:

    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, RedDog said:

    It just dawned on me that Maureen Dowd and the rest of the left-wing media arm always fall into these self made traps. I really believe they are mostly smart people but their reportage is incredibly lazy. It is routinely lazy because they know, subconciously, that they have so much political and professional cover that even if wrong they will be protected.

    I’d agree with that overall, although whether they’re all “smart people” vs. being crafty manipulators is open to debate.

    Their deliberate mental laziness comes more from purposeful intellectual dishonesty than a subconscious complacency. Many at least suspect or know full well that they’re engaged in “truth-but-not-the-whole-truth” obfuscations, or that they’re parroting canards that can be easily debunked with a little Google research, or that they’re recycling Josef Goebbels-style “Big Lie” untruths in the hope of converting them through sheer repetition into “common knowledge.”

    They engage in this behavior because:

    1. They themselves are willfully ignorant, or they have a vested interest in furthering an over-arching political “narrative” which is more important to them than any objective reality; and

    2. They know that their intended audience only reads the headlines and believes whatever they’re told, or shares their own willful ignorance — so that when a disparity arises between the truth and what the media gatekeepers are peddling, the audience will reliably ignore the facts and doggedly cling to the narrative.

    This is how lefties can endlessly swallow their own propaganda: e.g., that the Swift Vets’ exposures against Kerry have been “discredited,” or that the “sixteen words” in Bush’s state-of-the-union address about Saddam Hussein’s efforts to acquire uranium from Nigeria were a lie, or that Dick Cheney and Karl Rove “outed” Valerie Plame, or that George Bush “stole” both the 2000 and 2004 elections, or that the Iraq War is all about oil, or that the “corporate-owned” media are really in the tank for the right wing…

    … or that the accused Marines at Haditha are “guilty” of war crimes.

    I think it’s on the cable TV program “Mythbusters” that the saying “I reject your reality, and substitute my own!” arose. Lefties, and their media enablers, live by the same false gospel to avoid the implosion of their entire world view.

  55. #353479
    On June 18th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, old trooper said:

    I would spend $20.00 on a rope for Murtha’s Treasonous and Traitorous neck just to watch him dance.

    It would not be tax deductable but it would be entertaining.

  56. #353480
    On June 18th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, right_on said:

    During WWII as I recall, combatants caught wearing civilian clothes, armed at the time or otherwise, were immediately shot as spies. In the global war on terror, this seems to be a great idea, and one our liberal friends can embrace.

    Just think about all the potential CO2 and other harmful “greenhouse gases” that could be preempted that the terrorists produce!

    Oh, wait a minute. Liberal’s don’t believe in preemption, unless it refers to free speech. Never mind.

  57. #353573
    On June 18th, 2008 at 4:12 pm, Boomer said:

    Michelle thanks for using your rapier pen to catalog the wrongs done to these warriors by the irresponsible MSM and a certain slimy politician that should be tried for treason.

  58. #353576
    On June 18th, 2008 at 4:14 pm, terrig said:

    I would like to see these guys sue Murtha as well and for them to have the opportunity to get their reputations back. Unfortunately, the pigs in the msm and on the left will say that there must have been something to that story because you know, they just wouldn’t pull charges like that out of their a$$ so it must be true right? Well, that’s their mindset anyway.
    It’s going to be a rough 4 years ahead, no matter who wins in November.

  59. #353752
    On June 18th, 2008 at 7:22 pm, zorro said:

    Excellent column Michelle. Home-run.

  60. #353774
    On June 18th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, jellibean said:

    First rate, and well-written, Michelle. My only complaint is that you can’t insert hyperlinks into print–you gave such good (and damning) examples, it’s a shame that newspaper readers can’t open them without getting online.

  61. #353786
    On June 18th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, starlightwoman said:

    Very well written article, Michelle. It shows those that have betrayed our country and our military for just what they are – traitors!

  62. #353937
    On June 19th, 2008 at 12:07 am, Republicanvet said:

    Due process? For convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, of course. For our military? Never mind.

    It is so infuriating to think of this case (Haditha) and how fast the left, Drive-By media and surrendercrat politicans were willing to convict these Marines and others in the US military, particularly senile old Murtha.

    …at the same time these fools have been DEMANDING due process for those at Gitmo.

    …and in the case of Obama, access to US courts by Bin Laden with a likely presumption of innocence.

    Terrorists were getting due process, in front of military judges, yet radical leftist law hacks were not getting rich from that.

    You’re DAMNED RIGHT I question their patriotism!

  63. #354003
    On June 19th, 2008 at 7:04 am, derel3433 said:

    And that General Taguba or whatever is another one. Disgusting. Saying that our troops and the president were guilty of war crimes.

  64. #354131
    On June 19th, 2008 at 10:02 am, martin.musculus said:

    #34
    On June 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, love2rumba said

    I am inculcated with the arms of my youth:
    longarms: 308, 30-06, 45.
    sidearms: 38spcl, 44 mag, my old service 45, and a gift from *my* mother (inheritence) a .410 pistol.

    That last is an interesting piece, in that it shoots .410. birdshot, has 5 barrels, holds 5 shells, (in an 4 around a central barrel). The barrels are of a regular pistol length, and with low-brass, even a woman can fire it. You twist the barrel section to designate the firing barrel — except the final, (1st?) set where one side & the central barrel fires. According to my mother, it was a “genteel” weapon for self-protection used by the lady traveling unchaperoned.

    I’ve tested it with modern loads, and then had it x-rayed for cracks & stress. I’m afraid to reload to higher than standard loads. The barrels have a slight choke, but I wouldn’t trust it beyound 40′ — but that’s me.

    The nice thing about this is I have it registered *as a pistol*, which it is. I did this after a friend of my wife, a Reservist in Security Services who’s a cop at his other job suggested it. He said that some places we might PCS to might try to label it a sawed-off shogun. He said that if I fought it I’d get it back — providing it wasn’t “lost” or melted in the interum.

    – martin.musculus

  65. #354135
    On June 19th, 2008 at 10:06 am, martin.musculus said:

    errr, PDA failure:
    40′ = 40 feet
    shogun = shotgun…

    Although, firing a shoguns at Liberals might have a humour value to it….
    :lol:

  66. #354233
    On June 19th, 2008 at 11:31 am, misterbee241 said:

    I remember when Mai Lai happened. I really would like to know the truth about it. All I have is the anti-military liberal media’s account.

  67. #354564
    On June 19th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, Dimsdale said:

    What a shame that the Marines don’t get the same benefit of the doubt, the same “innocent until proven guilty” considerations that the SCOTUS says we have to give incarcerated terrorists.

  68. #354593
    On June 19th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On June 19th, 2008 at 11:31 am, misterbee241 said:
    I remember when Mai Lai happened. I really would like to know the truth about it. All I have is the anti-military liberal media’s account.

    Sorry to say Mai Lai was indeed an unbelievable case of mass murder. Troops CAN get to that level of rage. I have been there. But the Officers and NCOs are suppose to stop it. Lt Calley not only did not stop it but seemed to join in.

    There we soldiers there who did not participate and reported it. An American Army helicopter crew stopped it by dropping in between the civilians and troops, aiming a machine gun at Lt. Calley. Yet the anti-military liberal media blamed us all. Kerry.

    It was a terrible blight on us all.

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