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	<title>Comments on: Defining atrocity: Marines vs. the Haditha Smear Merchants</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Haditha Marine update: Lt. Col. Chessani wins another round</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Haditha Marine update: Lt. Col. Chessani wins another round</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gross and Jim Hoft have full coverage &#8212; coverage you won&#8217;t find in the MSM outlets that trumpeted Murtha&#8217;s smears three years [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Bill Russell: The man who could topple John Murtha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Bill Russell: The man who could topple John Murtha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] killed innocent civilians in cold blood.&#8221; As I reported in June, seven Marines have been cleared or won case dismissals in the Iraq war incident Murtha recklessly adjudicated in the court of public opinion &#8212; with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] killed innocent civilians in cold blood.&#8221; As I reported in June, seven Marines have been cleared or won case dismissals in the Iraq war incident Murtha recklessly adjudicated in the court of public opinion &#8212; with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vocal Minority</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vocal Minority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;But Don&#039;t Question Their Patriotism: John Murtha and the Haditha Marine Smearers...&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Justice 5, Brutality 4&quot; blared the editorial page of the June 13 NY Times. This was their response to the Supreme Court&#039;s decision to give Constitutional rights, for the first time in American history, to detained enemy combatants....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>But Don&#8217;t Question Their Patriotism: John Murtha and the Haditha Marine Smearers&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Justice 5, Brutality 4&#8243; blared the editorial page of the June 13 NY Times. This was their response to the Supreme Court&#8217;s decision to give Constitutional rights, for the first time in American history, to detained enemy combatants&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The DaleyGator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The media vs the Marines</title>
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		<dc:creator>The DaleyGator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The media vs the Marines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] off by reading Michelle Malkin&#8217;s newest column. Then, head over to FrontPage Magazine and watch Ben Johnson rip into Benedict Murtha. Then, head [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] off by reading Michelle Malkin&#8217;s newest column. Then, head over to FrontPage Magazine and watch Ben Johnson rip into Benedict Murtha. Then, head [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 19th, 2008 at 11:31 am, &lt;strong&gt;misterbee241&lt;/strong&gt; said: 
I remember when &lt;em&gt;Mai Lai &lt;/em&gt;happened. I really would like to know the truth about it. All I have is the anti-military liberal media’s account.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sorry to say Mai Lai was indeed an unbelievable case of mass murder. Troops CAN get to that level of rage. I have been there. But the Officers and NCOs are suppose to stop it. Lt Calley not only did not stop it but seemed to join in.

There we soldiers there who did not participate and reported it. An American Army helicopter crew stopped it by dropping in between the civilians and troops, aiming a machine gun at Lt. Calley. Yet the anti-military liberal media blamed us all. Kerry.

It was a terrible blight on us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 19th, 2008 at 11:31 am, <strong>misterbee241</strong> said:<br />
I remember when <em>Mai Lai </em>happened. I really would like to know the truth about it. All I have is the anti-military liberal media’s account.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry to say Mai Lai was indeed an unbelievable case of mass murder. Troops CAN get to that level of rage. I have been there. But the Officers and NCOs are suppose to stop it. Lt Calley not only did not stop it but seemed to join in.</p>
<p>There we soldiers there who did not participate and reported it. An American Army helicopter crew stopped it by dropping in between the civilians and troops, aiming a machine gun at Lt. Calley. Yet the anti-military liberal media blamed us all. Kerry.</p>
<p>It was a terrible blight on us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a shame that the Marines don&#039;t get the same benefit of the doubt, the same &quot;innocent until proven guilty&quot; considerations that the SCOTUS says we have to give incarcerated terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame that the Marines don&#8217;t get the same benefit of the doubt, the same &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221; considerations that the SCOTUS says we have to give incarcerated terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: misterbee241</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterbee241</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember when Mai Lai happened.  I really would like to know the truth about it.  All I have is the anti-military liberal media&#039;s account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when Mai Lai happened.  I really would like to know the truth about it.  All I have is the anti-military liberal media&#8217;s account.</p>
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		<title>By: martin.musculus</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin.musculus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>errr, PDA failure:
40&#039; = 40 feet
shogun = shotgun...

Although, firing a shoguns at Liberals &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; have a humour value to it....
:lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>errr, PDA failure:<br />
40&#8242; = 40 feet<br />
shogun = shotgun&#8230;</p>
<p>Although, firing a shoguns at Liberals <i>might</i> have a humour value to it&#8230;.<br />
 <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: martin.musculus</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/18/defining-atrocity-marines-vs-the-haditha-smear-merchants/comment-page-1/#comment-354131</link>
		<dc:creator>martin.musculus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#34
On June 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, &lt;b&gt;love2rumba&lt;/b&gt; said&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am inculcated with the arms of my youth: 
   longarms: 308, 30-06, 45.
   sidearms: 38spcl, 44 mag, my old service 45, and a gift from *my* mother (inheritence) a  .410 pistol.  

That last is an interesting piece, in that it shoots .410. birdshot, has 5 barrels, holds 5 shells, (in an 4 around a central barrel).  The barrels are of a regular pistol length, and with low-brass, even a woman can fire it.  You twist the barrel section to designate the firing barrel  --  except the final, (1st?) set where one side &amp; the central barrel fires.  According to my mother, it was a &quot;genteel&quot; weapon for self-protection used by the lady traveling unchaperoned.

I&#039;ve tested it with modern loads, and then had it x-rayed for cracks &amp; stress.  I&#039;m afraid to reload to higher than standard loads.  The barrels have a slight choke, but I wouldn&#039;t trust it beyound 40&#039;  --  but that&#039;s me.

The nice thing about this is I have it registered *as a pistol*, which it is.  I did this after a friend of my wife, a Reservist in Security Services who&#039;s a cop at his other job suggested it.  He said that some places we might PCS to might try to label it a sawed-off shogun.  He said that if I fought it I&#039;d get it back  --  providing it wasn&#039;t &quot;lost&quot; or melted in the interum.

--  martin.musculus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#34<br />
On June 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, <b>love2rumba</b> said</p></blockquote>
<p>I am inculcated with the arms of my youth:<br />
   longarms: 308, 30-06, 45.<br />
   sidearms: 38spcl, 44 mag, my old service 45, and a gift from *my* mother (inheritence) a  .410 pistol.  </p>
<p>That last is an interesting piece, in that it shoots .410. birdshot, has 5 barrels, holds 5 shells, (in an 4 around a central barrel).  The barrels are of a regular pistol length, and with low-brass, even a woman can fire it.  You twist the barrel section to designate the firing barrel  &#8212;  except the final, (1st?) set where one side &amp; the central barrel fires.  According to my mother, it was a &#8220;genteel&#8221; weapon for self-protection used by the lady traveling unchaperoned.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tested it with modern loads, and then had it x-rayed for cracks &amp; stress.  I&#8217;m afraid to reload to higher than standard loads.  The barrels have a slight choke, but I wouldn&#8217;t trust it beyound 40&#8242;  &#8212;  but that&#8217;s me.</p>
<p>The nice thing about this is I have it registered *as a pistol*, which it is.  I did this after a friend of my wife, a Reservist in Security Services who&#8217;s a cop at his other job suggested it.  He said that some places we might PCS to might try to label it a sawed-off shogun.  He said that if I fought it I&#8217;d get it back  &#8212;  providing it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;lost&#8221; or melted in the interum.</p>
<p>&#8211;  martin.musculus</p>
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		<title>By: derel3433</title>
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		<dc:creator>derel3433</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that General Taguba or whatever is another one. Disgusting. Saying that our troops and the president were guilty of war crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that General Taguba or whatever is another one. Disgusting. Saying that our troops and the president were guilty of war crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Republicanvet</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/18/defining-atrocity-marines-vs-the-haditha-smear-merchants/comment-page-1/#comment-353937</link>
		<dc:creator>Republicanvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Due process? For convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, of course. For our military? Never mind.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is so infuriating to think of this case (Haditha) and how fast the left, Drive-By media and surrendercrat politicans were willing to convict these Marines and others in the US military, particularly senile old Murtha.

...at the same time these fools have been DEMANDING due process for those at Gitmo.

...and in the case of Obama, access to US courts by Bin Laden with a likely presumption of innocence.

Terrorists were getting due process, in front of military judges, yet radical leftist law hacks were not getting rich from that.

You&#039;re DAMNED RIGHT I question their patriotism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Due process? For convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, of course. For our military? Never mind.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is so infuriating to think of this case (Haditha) and how fast the left, Drive-By media and surrendercrat politicans were willing to convict these Marines and others in the US military, particularly senile old Murtha.</p>
<p>&#8230;at the same time these fools have been DEMANDING due process for those at Gitmo.</p>
<p>&#8230;and in the case of Obama, access to US courts by Bin Laden with a likely presumption of innocence.</p>
<p>Terrorists were getting due process, in front of military judges, yet radical leftist law hacks were not getting rich from that.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re DAMNED RIGHT I question their patriotism!</p>
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		<title>By: Moonbats On Parade &#171; Nice Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonbats On Parade &#171; Nice Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moonbat #5: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LTC CHESSANI TO BE TRIED AGAIN? &#124; Democrat=Socialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>LTC CHESSANI TO BE TRIED AGAIN? &#124; Democrat=Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin and Hot Air minion, get to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: starlightwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>starlightwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well written article, Michelle.  It shows those that have betrayed our country and our military for just what they are - traitors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well written article, Michelle.  It shows those that have betrayed our country and our military for just what they are &#8211; traitors!</p>
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		<title>By: jellibean</title>
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		<dc:creator>jellibean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First rate, and well-written, Michelle. My only complaint is that you can&#039;t insert hyperlinks into print--you gave such good (and damning) examples, it&#039;s a shame that newspaper readers can&#039;t open them without getting online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First rate, and well-written, Michelle. My only complaint is that you can&#8217;t insert hyperlinks into print&#8211;you gave such good (and damning) examples, it&#8217;s a shame that newspaper readers can&#8217;t open them without getting online.</p>
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