Inside McCain’s closed-door meeting with Chicago Hispanics
Scroll down for updates…Rosanna Pulido of the anti-amnesty group, “You Don’t Speak for Me:” “He’s one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he’s a different John McCain in front of Hispanics.”
Last night, John McCain met with a carefully screened group of Chicago-area Latino voters. The town hall was closed to the media. Several readers e-mailed an eyewitness account of the event. Here’s an excerpt:
I was one of the 150 people at the Drake Hotel in Downtown Chicago Wednesday night who came to hear John MC Cain speak to Illinois Hispanics.
I had e-mail in my request to attend after seeing an article in the news paper announcing this event.
This is what i received……….
We are pleased to confirm your invitation to attend the “Hispanic Voices Reception” with Republican Presidential candidate John McCain. The event will take place on June 18, 2008, at The Drake Hotel, 140 E. Walton Place, Chicago, Illinois, in the Drake Room.
A volunteer will call you in the next couple of days to give you a “unique event ID number.” You will need that number along with photo identification at the registration table in order to access the event. Doors open for the event promptly at 7:30 PM. Please come early, though, to get through security.
During the reception, Senator John McCain will be fielding questions from the audience. We ask that you be respectful during the question-and-answer session even if your opinions differ from those being shared. Please dress in business-casual attire.
You may park at The Drake Hotel for $30; valet parking is also provided at the hotel for $45. If you are traveling from the suburbs, limited seating is available on the bus leaving from Aurora. To reserve a seat for the bus, please contact us on our hotline number or by e-mail. For your own directions to the event, please click here.
For questions regarding the event, please call our hotline number at 630-801-0043 or e-mail us at McVolunteers@yahoo.com.
Both Senator John McCain and I look forward to meeting you next Wednesday.
Face to Face with John McCain!
“Hispanic Voices Reception”
Wednesday, June 18, 2008, starting at 7:30 PM
The Drake Room The Drake Hotel 140 E Walton Place Chicago, IL 60611
You are invited to hear John McCain address Illinois Hispanics!
If you have any questions, please contact: Gabriela Wyatt or Julie Brady at McVolunteers@yahoo.com Or call the event hot-line (630) 801-0043 _________________________________________________________
…..Personally as an Original Minuteman who attended the Historic Minuteman Border Watch in 2005 on the Arizona/ Mexico border and returni[n]g 2 more times for a tour of duty along our southern Border, I was especially looking forward to what John Mc Cain would say about illegal immigration.
This was a NO MEDIA ALLOWED EVENT! That is why I am reporting back to you, all of you folks who have fought so hard with your phone calls to Washington D.C. last summer, shutting down the Washington DC switch board and defeating the AMNESTY BILL. I am reporting back to you those of you who work tirelessly in your local cities and towns trying to get some public elected official to care and enforce the rule of law.
I was told by my friend and fellow Hispanic Marianne Davies who is on the board of “You Don’t Speak for Me” that John Mc Cain has been going across the country having “PRIVATE” meetings with Hispanics.
Although the [invitation] said we would be able to ask questions, that “question ” time with John McCain never happened. That was ok with me, I never had the intention of asking a question, I knew exactly the kind of open borders crowd I was with.
John McCain’s favorite words of the evening were Comprehensive Immigration Reform. But he started out first of all saying if he is gonna win the Presidential election he will need the support of the Latino community.
He said ” My state has been enriched by the Hispanic culture in Arizona.”
Then John McCain asked a question “Did you know this? I bet some of you did not know that Spanish was spoken in Arizona before English” …Loud cheers from the audience. (Ok John McCain What is your AZTLAN POINT?)
Then he said “I want to have some straight talk about our relationship with Mexico,our closest neighbor and dearest friend” He talked about the Mexican President fighting the drug cartels.
Then John McCain aid the exact thing I came to hear, he said “I was proud to work for Comprehensive Immigration Reform and If I am elected President I assure you that in 2009 I will ask Congress to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform.” (The crowd goes wild) “It is a Federal Responsibility” he said and continued ” we also need a temporary guest worker program”
He then told a story about a day laborer who got picked up this morning, worked all day and then never got paid…We have no Federal Policy, we cannot allow this to happen, he said, He repeated I assure you that I will work for Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
John McCain talked about a debate he was in about enforcing the law and he says that the “other side had a lot of “Rhetoric” “you know what I am talking about!” he said…
Yeah, we know what he’s talking about. All too well.
(Image credit: People’s Cube)
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Related: Tipster Edgar M. sends an English translation of an article from Diario Libre touting McCain’s promise to renew his shamnesty push for the “undocumented:”
New York – The Republican candidate for the White House, Senator John McCain, promised that if he wins, a day after he is sworn in as a new president of the United States, he will pressure Congress to enact a law immediately in favor of immigration reform.
The candidate that appears today eight points behind his Democrat rival Barack Obama, did the pronouncement in an interview that he granted to the Hispanic newspaper La Opinion in Los Angeles…
McCain said that it is completely false that [he] has abandoned his original commitment to fight for reform for the more than 12 million undocumented immigrants that reside in the United States and that includes the failed proposal of President Bush, to secure the borders first.
“This reform will be a priority in my administration because it is a convincing federal responsibility”, added the contender of the Republican Party. “We will undertake immigration reform and on the day after my inauguration, I will ask Congress to reconsider it, although I believe that first we have to secure our borders, set in motion a plan for guest workers that works and to focus on the issue of the undocumented in a humane and compassionate way.”
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Related: Ed Morrissey’s liveblogging McCain’s townhall in St. Paul, Minn. Looks like immigration received only the most superficial treatment.
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Update: I’ve suggested before that McCain meet with the anti-illegal immigration Hispanic group, “You Don’t Speak for Me.” Rosanna Pulido is a member of the group. She speaks for me.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain assured Hispanic leaders he would push through Congress legislation to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected, several people who attended a private meeting with the candidate said Thursday.
Democrats questioned why the Arizona senator held the meeting late Wednesday night in Chicago. But supporters who were in the room denied that McCain held the closed-door session out of fear of offending conservatives, many of whom want him to take a harder line on immigration.
Both McCain and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama support giving legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, but neither has made the issue a centerpiece of the campaign. At one time, McCain’s campaign suffered because of his stance on the issue.
“This was not a secret meeting,” said Rafael Rivadeneira, a vice chairman of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly of Illinois, who was among more than 150 Chicago-area Hispanic leaders who attended. “There was nothing he said that they wouldn’t want people to hear.”
Other attendees said they were not so sure.
“He’s one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he’s a different John McCain in front of Hispanics,” complained Rosanna Pulido, a Hispanic and conservative Republican who attended the meeting.
Pulido, who heads the Illinois Minuteman Project, which advocates for restrictive immigration laws, said she thought McCain was “pandering to the crowd” by emphasizing immigration reform in his speech.
“He’s having his private meetings to rally Hispanics and to tell them what they want to hear,” she said. “I’m outraged that he would reach out to me as a Hispanic but not as a conservative.”
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Backdoor deals are also enjoyed by his bud, Lindsey Graham, if you get my drift.
McCain would not be the nominee if every state had CLOSED PRIMARIES. Dems and Indies should NOT be voting for the GOP nominee.
It looks like a form of Rush’s “Operation Chaos” was implemented on the GOP primaries.
I have to say I’m still a little optimistic. The American spirit and pride are alive and well . Before we are all wearing burkas and speaking Spanish, enough people will rise up and make their voices heard. (Do you think folks who legitimately receive disability and other assistance from the Govt. will let the system be overflooded with illegals? At some point, even the bluest (non-politician) Democrat will say “Enough is enough.”
Since getting his ASS handed to him, by GWB in 2000, this is the JOHN MC CAIN we in AZ have began to KNOW and LOVE. All you have to do is read the SYNOPSIS of his meeting, and you know why I could no way vote for this FRAUD…
I missed this one last night, but it really has my blood boiling right now. The “grumpy old man” must think we are all just a bunch of stupid cattle that will march lock step over the cliff destroying our nation’s sovereignty like a group of unthinking liberals by voting for him. I hope and pray for a delegates open revolt at the Republican Convention providing “we the people” with a better alternative than we have currently been handed between a racist Marxist and the equally liberal illegal invader pandering Maverick. Either one will do all they can to destroy this country with a very compliant liberal minded and arrogant Congress. We really are screwed in 08.
#200:
Parties should not dictate when and how a state holds an election. Why should citizens of one state have any voice in how another state holds its elections and who can and can’t vote? That’s preposterous.
ROFL
nice
IR,
Message received.
To debunk the lie that Bob Barr is for open borders:
* The current platform of the Libertarian Party paints a bright and accurate picture regarding the issue of immigration: “Our borders are currently neither open, closed, nor secure. This situation restricts the labor pool, encouraging employers to hire undocumented workers, while leaving those workers neither subject to nor protected by the law. A completely open border allows foreign criminals, carriers of communicable diseases, terrorists and other potential threats to enter the country unchecked. Pandering politicians guarantee access to public services for undocumented aliens, to the detriment of those who would enter to work productively, and increasing the burden on taxpayers.”
* Resolving this issue will be a challenge for America as it means that we must be aggressive in securing our borders while at the same time, vigilantly fighting the nanny state that seeks to coddle even those capable of providing for their own personal prosperity.
* Until all governments are willing to take a unified front to confront this problem, it is the duty of the federal government to secure our borders from criminals, terrorists and those seeking to take advantage of the American taxpayer.
All I can think of to say is OMG!
Give me back my country!
Funny, I thought Canada was our closest neighbor and dearest friend. Canadians are dying alongside Americans in Afghanistan right now. What are Mexicans doing? Invading America by the tens of millions in the name of “Atzlan” and Mexican hegemony. McCain: You are our generation’s Benedict Arnold.
Typical McCain, yawn, Rino
Has anyone noticed that when you get the national weather service scroll for a thunderstorm warning etc… that it scrolls in spanish first? My wife and I noticed this yesterday.
Well well. The truth comes out. You support “comprehensive immigration reform” (aka amensty). We do not need a migrant work force anything close to the numbers of illegals already here. We could use a SMALL # in the agriculture for seasonal work. BUT, you can not allow birthright citizenship and expect migrant workers to leave. They will never leave. I disagree, WE DO NOT NEED milions of migrant workers who NEVER leave. Every Western country that has tried guest worker programs has found it failed. As one german put it, “we wanted workers, what we got were human beings” once they found they could not get the “temporary” workers to go home. You are simply one of those who supports mass virtually unlimited immigraiton as long as they come legally. Legal or illegal, the immigration of 10’s of millions of uneducated low skilled peasants who will take more from the taxpayers than they pay in (net benefit lower than cost to americans has been proven over and over again) will eventually break the back of the high skilled productive American workers. Somebody has to support all of these “impoverished” workers. How many landscapers and maids do we really need since those are the first jobs eleimanted in tough times. Open borders and a welfare state are incompatible (Milton Friedman). Not to mention the impact of all these immigrants on our culture and even language. So it is no wonder you support mcamensty. And oh yea, you claimed you supported Tancredo. I find that hard to beleive given your statement above.
Miss Ladybug #77 nailed it. No matter how bad Senator McCain sounds and appears, he’s still far ahead of Senator Obama. Senator Obama was voted the most liberal Senator, ever. He’s an “empty suit” train wreck Socialist headed for the Whitehouse. We cannot let that happen. It’s time to swallow hard and pull the lever for McCain. As bad as the medicine tastes, it’s far better than the disease left unchecked, the disease of liberalism. John can be reprimanded by us if we keep at him. Obama can’t. Perseverence.
I just wish Drudge would link up the article about McCain’s meeting with Hillary supporters inplying he will give them the judges they wants, by emphasizing that he did vote to confirm Ginsberg and Breyer. I think republicans, not just conservatives should be aware of this man’s other 2 faced dealings. He has pure contempt for conservatives. I saw a poll recently that said only 80% of republicans will vote for him. I wonder why? I am trully shocked!!!!
I hope everybody here sees that our founding fathers great experiment has FAILED!
It is no long “We The People” it is “We The Government”
This election no matter who wins has just taken us over the edge of Socialism.
WE WILL NO LONGER BE A REPUBLIC after November elections!
#211:
snort.
First speaking to La Raza, now this. It’s almost like he’s purposely trying to convince me not to vote for him.
Whatever. McCain’s unfortunate stand on “immigration reform” pales in comparison to the scorched earth, apocalyptic, unmitigated disaster of an Obama presidency.
Amnesty has been held at bay so far because there is a HUGE amount of grassroots opposition to it. That will continue and perhaps, grow, in a McCain presidency. I don’t see his support for amnesty as a deal breaker.
I’m still voting for him.
What I wanted to do is to take the first part of what you said, strike out the last statement and then add new commentary from me in a new paragraph. I didn’t want to make it look like you said what was after the html strike of your words, followed by the “…..” before I wrote my response. When I composed this and previewed it, it seemed to make sense to me. I see that I should have placed your name and the first part of what you said in a block quote. That would have been more clear.
Obviously your complete post can be seen at #89 and I hoped that most people seeing my comment #97 was in response to yours after the strike, and after the “…..”.
I do apologize that it did not make it perfectly clear.
Uh-huh,
And, when president-by-default Obama, and his fillibuster-proof Democrat congress shoves immigration reform down your throat, who you gonna’ complain to?
Will anyone listen to you?
careful what’cha’ wish for
This country is doomed. Damn McAmnesty and his plan to give the USA in trade for an election.
You know, I hated the “Bush stole the election” rants from the liberals after Bush was elected in 2000. And I hated the same lamenting after Bush defeated Kerry, the same droning of “he’s not my president” and whatever.
And I reject this same “WE WILL NO LONGER BE A REPUBLIC after November elections!” BS from you.
Our democracy and process of elections is still in effect, even when our chosen candidate loses.
Wiseman you obviously AREN’T so wise and can’t see what’s going on around you!
Oh and we’re not a democracy we were a REPUBLIC. When you find democracy in the Constitution get back to me!
Thanks For Playing.
Oh wiseman now I understand why you’re not so wise you’re voting for BHO now it all makes sense in technicolor!
Oh by the way they’re having a sale on rosecolored glasses @ Lenscrafters
I’m thinking that with either of these candidates we are in for an unmitigated disaster. With Obama it’ll hit us just that much sooner.
Heaven help us.
I am not voting for Obama.
You are acting weird.
This isn’t happening–this isn’t happening. I’m going to wake up now–
Uh-huh,
And, when immigration reform is shoved down your throat, I’m gonna’ be one who says, You asked for it.
Michelle Malkin, the so-called “right-wing blogger” would appear to be nothing more than an undercover Obama supporter.
Prove me wrong
I am an ARIZONAN, and I implore you: DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS MAN. He has some sort of burning hatred for conservative principles, and was only ever a Republican because it was the way to get elected back in the day here in AZ.
You’re ridiculous, you know that right?
McCain is a dumbass. He can’t out-liberal the Marxist, and the few Latino votes he peels off trying will be more than balanced by the base voters who stay home or vote third party in disgust.
Maybe, someday, we’ll have to give the illegals some form of amnesty in lieu of deporting all of them (but everyone arrested for any crime should be on an airplane or in a camp), but until the borders are 100% secure, and we go back to a legal immigration policy that encourages productive future citizens, with skills and education, to immigrate, not the stupid Kennedy formula of reuniting families, than anything that smacks of amnesty is a non-starter.
Is that your proof?
McCain servers in Vietnam almost giving his life fighting the invading North Vietnamese trying to protect the sovereignty of the South Vietnamese government, then he returns home and becomes a turn coat sell-out P.O.S. hispandering traitor. From American Hero to ZERO, what a freaking waste!
Frank,
I believe you are correct that any Obama amnesty plan will be even worse than what McCain supports.
But it is swimming upstream to convince people that anything could be worse on this issue than McCain.
BTW, Mrs. Malkin lays as much criticism on Obama as she does on McCain.
Face it, McCain deserves to lose.
I’m still voting for him, because an old school Scoop Jackson anti-communist liberal Democrat, like McCain, is better than an appeasement oriented deceptive Marxist agitator like Obama, and I think putting a communist in control of two of the three, eventually all three branches of the Federal government is a punishment too harsh for the crime of accomadationism and abandonment of conservative principles the Republicans have committed. Firing squad punishment for writing a hot check, as it were.
McCain has repeatedly avoided answering the question about whether he would support Comprehensive Immigration Amnesty in the media. I presumed he was a liar, now we know he’s a lying sack of ___.
He will NEVER get my vote. I have NO respect for him, in fact I despise him.
We’re screwed ‘08.
Advocating against a candidateAdvocating for the other.
No difference
A bus out of Aurora. No surprise there.
BTW, my in-laws are legal immigrants from Mexico, and my wife’s Tio Fito even votes Republican and watches Fox News.
Most Mexicans I’ve met who came to this country legally recognize the threat to this country from unchecked illegal immigration, and believe if they had to wait in line, and jump through all the hoops to become citizens, than the illegals should not be offered a short-cut.
And the McCain-Bush-Kennedy plan that called for small cash fines before an illegal became legal and eligible for social security benefits does not keep it from being amnesty, no matter how pro-amnesty pundits like Michael Medved try to spin it.
Proof? Of?
You provide all the proof we need
By the way…have you gotten enough points for your McShamnesty picture frame yet? The one with the hearts around the border and a picture your hero there with the leaders of La Raza?
I just dont think you appreciate what he’s going to do if he’s elected, and how bad it will be when he’s done.
Let’s put my theory to the test.
All we have to do is ask Michelle Malkin who she wants for president.
You have two choices…ONE, or the OTHER.
Let’s be honest about this.
Frank- I’d guess McCain, but she doesn’t have to be thrilled about it.
You don’t post at Gulf Coast Pundit as “Buckaroo” by any chance, do you?
Frank,
That’s assuming alot.
What if she wants to write in a candidate? She can vote for Winnie the Pooh if she wants, just like anyone else can….thats the wonderful RIGHT of voting.
I don’t presume one person will vote for another, and you shouldnt either.
Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul,
Well, he doesn’t send thrill up my leg either.
But, it’s time for the rubber to meet the road.
It isn’t about “voting”
It’s about who you think should be in the White House, given two choices.
If the Supreme Court looked at the Fourteenth Amendment as it was written and intended, it was clear it was meant to grant citizenship rights to freed slaves after the war.
By the very act of their parents being in the country illegally, they make themselves not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, and should not be granted citizenship rights.
Obviously, the four Marxists and Tony Kennedy who vacations in Europe and enjoys the DC cocktail party circuit won’t see it that way.
Errah, I must be losing my mind but I’m seriously thinking of voting for Barr, errah.
As people keep saying though…there isn’t JUST 2 choices. You can dissect that how you want, and play the “well, its going to be one or the other…” but thats not the facts. There is always another choice, in this case. You may not like it. You might not agree with it. But it doesnt change the fact that you can vote for whoever you want, and its intellectually dishonest for you to constantly suggest otherwise.
I would also point out that it IS in fact about voting. Remember, you said:
.
That would mean, in other words, “who are you voting for?”
This whole issue involves voting. How is it NOT about voting?
Frank
I’ve gotten grief about it, but as bad as McCain is, Obama is worse.
I myself accused Mr. Khan of being a Moby, but I realize that was wrong. Every time McCain pulls a stupid stunt like this, patriotic citizens are going to get pissed.
I still think voting for Bob Barr, who might pull 5% of the vote, and guarantee an Obama win, is a mistake, but I understand where it comes from.
I won’t hold my breath for an apology.
That doesn’t look like the proof I asked for.
My accusation stands.
“Michelle Malkin, the so-called ‘right-wing blogger’ is in fact, an Obama fan.”
Prove me wrong
Prove: Advocating against a candidate, ISN’T Advocating for the other.
abstract minded-
yes, and no.
Barr and Nader, and possibly Ron Paul, will be on the ballot, plus I imagine various nutso fringe groups will try to get enough names on a petition to put more names on the ballot.
There will be five or more candidates.
However, either McCain, or Obama, will be President. Any other vote is a protest vote.
I disagree with, but understand the logic, of letting the ‘real’ Democrat win, with the conservative protest candidate Barr pulling a decent amount of votes, might send a message to the GOP that the base is tired of accomadation and compromise, and if Obama does hike taxes through the roof, doesn’t allow oil drilling causing prices to sky-rocket even higher for gas, and lets our enemies overseas laugh in our faces, he’ll be a one term Carter style president, and then maybe we’ll get a Ronald Reagan style real Republican.
I just fear the damage a real Marxist, with a near filibuster proof Senate majority, can do in four years. Yes, Carter gave us Reagan, but he also gave us Iran and Islamic terrorism, which hasn’t been eliminated to this day. And I am certain the four libtards on the SCOTUS will retire, secure in the knowledge Obama will appoint four young communists to serve on the court for forty years to come, and if the so-so Kennedy, or one of the constitutionalists dies in the next four years, a majority communist Supreme Court will be in place as a third house of Congress, demanding laws like the gay marriage law imposed by the California Supremes, and a second White House, vetoing any law a future Republican Congress and White House might pass.
You’re a moron, frank. Prove that you aren’t.
Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul,
I get the same grief you do…Notice the 12:15 comment…The name-calling begins.
Both candidates..did I say
CANDIDates??? are pandering to Mexico and NOT Americans…Our only hope is a true revolt during the Republican National Convention….accoding to a site Project Merlin which I heard about on Coast to Coast….there will be a change in both parties before the election…interesting isn’t it…when you consider that most Americans are disgusted with the choices they have SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS this election year..
Just say NO to either one!!!
You called me an McCain cheerleader, and compared me to Obama. Which are sharp insults. Deciding to vote for the lesser of two evils, when one of them will be the next President, doesn’t make me a fan of the lesser evil. Bronchitis, or lung cancer. I’d rather have bronchitis, but I’m not a fan of it.
Or, the restaurant analogy. A bowl of hot chili peppers, without water, or a bowl of plain oatmeal. Bob Barr is an ice cream sundae with bananas and a cherry on top. Except that restaurant is all out. You can order all the Bob Barr you want, but you’re going to wind up with hot pepppers or plain oatmeal, if that makes any sense.
And you still could be a Moby. But odds are you aren’t, and I shouldn’t have called you that.
I think you just proved yourself insane.
I never called you a McCain cheerleader and I don’t remember comparing you to Obama. Given the poor logic, reading comprehension, distortions, misrepresentations that you and your ilk have engaged in, I no doubt believe you think it’s true. Frankly, I don’t care if you were or are insulted, even if you had to construct those insults from thin air.
flenser,
Actually, I’m an insane moron…At least, up to this point.
Ok, here we go in order:
One can only believe from this that you really have never read this site, anything our hostess has posted, anything she’s said on television, placed in national news media, or ever said in the span of time since Obama became an issue. I’m pretty sure it would take about 2.22354 picoseconds for anyone with common sense to see the fallacy and ignorance of your statement.
So prove you wrong….Check.
How about the next one? Can we go 2 for 2?
Si, se puede!
Simple. I don’t support McCain. I don’t support Obama. I’m not advocating a vote for either. That’s just common sense. Not advocating for one or the other doesn’t require you to endorse anyone else at all. Again, just simply put, its common sense.
So now that the simple stuff is done, lets talk to Ed, who seems to have posted something of substance! Fred, thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts!
Ed,
I believe both Barr and Paul are both for lack of a better term..morons. They have some decent domestic ideas, but their foreign policy is so far off the mark it makes them look ridiculous.
It’s almost to the level of being preposterous. Iraq, Al-Qaeda, terorrists..they wont go away if we just walk away. It’ll get worse. Bet the farm on it.
I’ve asked for solid reasons for voting for McCain. Other than the same old thing, no one has really given me a better answer than “he’s better than obama”. I dont find that acceptable.
I dont think he’s worse that obama. I just think he’s on the same train, just near the rear car. I think he’ll take us down a different road with a disasterous conclusion.
I’m not sure who to vote for…but people here bash others who want to use their legal right to vote for anything other than the Big 2. I dont want to just vote for anyone. i want to vote whom i believe will do well. and its so far, not these 2.
lunchtime, bbl.
Are we surprised? no.
Had to show ID at the door huh?
Interesting.
Double standards eh, McSplainish ??
Juan Down 20 million to go
You can stay home, all day long.
But, at the end o’the day, SOMEONE will be president…Whether you vote or not.
THAT’S the reality.
So, it’s really not about “voting,” is it.
you know, frank…is there any way you could get your regular ego/self to visit and contribute instead?
Egad! If I didn’t know that Obama feels the exact same way, I’d vote for him instead of McCamnesty!
Where is that charismatic third-party candidate when you need him?
HELLLOOOOOOOOOO, Ross Perot!!
Because I am a conservative I won’t vote for John McCain.
Khan- you did call me a ‘McCain cheerleader’. But bygones, water and Kennedy’s under the bridge, all that.
I don’t have a whole lot more to add, sadly, he isn’t as liberal as Obama.
FranksAlterEgo
There is, thankfully, a First Amendment. You can say almost anything you like, and the government can’t stop you. But this is Mrs. Malkin’s website. Think of it as one of William F Buckley’s cocktail parties, where people of different viewpoints sit and argue the issues. If one insists on insulting the host, at some point one may be asked to leave the party.
I suppose you are entitled to ask Mrs. Malkin who she plans to vote for, but she doesn’t have to answer. Secret ballot and all that. Further, this blog isn’t all she does. Columns, TV appearances, children at home. So she may not even see the questions.
But anyway, one should be respectful with the host of this party when debating the issues of the day.
Flenser, I haven’t had time to read all the comments but voting for McInsane is voting for the end of America. It’s that simple.
My contribution…
I’m voting for Johnny Mac…Not because I’m enamoured…But, because I think Obama is the most dangerous SOB to ever come down the pike.
I, for one, am not afraid to take a stand.
Nice, good catch on the hypocrisy.
Hot issue I would say, 260 comments already this morning. This Comprehensive Immigration Reform, amnesty bull and his smart mouth retorts may just be the issue that cost him the White House. For years John McCain has gone out of his way to alienate the Conservatives in the Party and now this arrogant little fool wants us to all pull together.
I’ll vote against Barack Hussein Obama, but as for contributing to McCain’s campaign all I can say is I have a whole jar of ten centavo coins; one coin for each request.
Perhaps he can get some cash from the Mexican Mafia, 16th steet gang and such.
The winner of the dumbest post on the thread. What is “brave” about voting BAU? That is not risk taking, that is copping out and perpetuating this hideous 2 party system we now have. Those “taking a stand” are the ones saying, ‘enough, I am voting for the person I beleive will do teh BEST job, not just down party lines’. I will be voting for Pastor Chuck Baldwin of the Constituion Party. He is light years ahead of mcamensty on conservative issues, especially illegal immigration. I don’t beleive that is a vote for BHO, reagardless of how many times you say it over and over and over……
“Weary Citizen” of another planet?
“Weary Citizen” of an alternate universe?
“Weary Citizen” of an alternate universe?
Franksalterego, 272 &271, yes, earth. Wich one are you from?
The democrats are already in the process of healing their own ‘chaos’ rift. When they are done, their party will vote for the candidate who won the primaries. Five months later, the hillary supporters (who are upset that their candidate lost to Obama) will have forgotten their own suicidal plan to vote for their political enemy McCain that they threatened to do out of anger that she lost.
Meanwhile ….
It looks like our own ‘chaos’ (thanks to the democrats inflirtating us an/or just the home grown people pissed that their candidate lost to McCain) of division and tearing apart the candidate that is going to get the nomination thanks to all the republicans who voted for him in the primaries … is still gaining momentum.
fanks, what a ridiculous response. But I guess I should expect that from a paid gop plant. Your lack of imagination in your posts is reflective of your lack of imagination at the voting booth.
A respectful question in seek of a respectful (i.e. no flaming, stuuuupidity, thank you very much in advance) answer:
Since we conservatives can chew gum and walk at the same time, just what – pray tell - is preventing us from
A) voting McCain to fend off the self-annihilating (see: Iran + nukes) Obama,
AND at the same time
B) forming a separate political party to remove the singular mind-think of current Democrats/Republicans (regardless what you call it today…earlier they called it, I think, country club Republicans).
Please spare me the cheap, adolescent, toxic, patent & abusive answers.
Since we’re smart enough, please tell me why we can’t do both; as far as I am concerned, Obama in 2008 means there may well be no 2012 to worry about (see “Iran + nukes” comment above).
The Founding Fathers didn’t give us “the right to vote”
And, after reading this blog-post comments, I can understand why.
Here is the thread, Ed:
LINK
I never called you a cheerleader. In fact, I never even posted the word.
#276:
Nothing. Get some of your like-minded peeps together, pony up the money, and create a party.
What, Martin… you’re bashing me in my absence now?
Classy!
Guess you didn’t like my public exposure of your malignant narcissim, eh? Nacissistic bullies hate being called out.
That would be the reason for you trying to textually persuade others here to ignore my posts and treat me like a “troll”, yes? Psychiatrists have a name for this kind of behavior, Martin… it’s called “mobbing”. And the ringleader of a mobbing campaign is always a narcissist.
Like I said, this place is your narcissistic supply. And you keep coming back to it to bully people and dominate the conversation because you simply can’t help yourself.
By the way, I also think that any man who is so consumed with hatred for someone that he will sit his young grandchildren down in front of the computer and pay them money to dig up dirt on the object of his hatred is a pretty sick puppy. And that is my PROFESSIONAL opinion.
Have a nice day.
So, let’s see if we have this straight:
Sen. McCain should not do anything to earn our votes simply because he is running against someone we dislike more.
Michelle’s having an opinion that differs from the GOP candidate, who could be argued to be, at most, moderate if not altogether liberal means that she is only a “so-called ‘right-wing blogger’”. How does that work, exactly? Michelle cannot be more to the right of the GOP candidate otherwise she’s on the left?
…and secret, closed-door meetings with Latinos should be ignored by all of us concerned over illegal immigration because we should be more afraid of an Obama presidency.
Does that sum it up?
This just sounds like more of the “put up or shut up” approach that is winning oh-so-many of us over.
Khan #214, I understand your pessimism of my comment 211.
Desert Rat #226, I understand your and other Arizonans panic of John McCain. But how does letting Obama win accomplish ANYTHING for the conservative cause? How does letting the Democrat party control all three gov’t branches accomplish anything positive? I don’t understand how letting a socialist liberal in the Whitehouse will do anything positive for this country that has already gone through about 50 years of degeneration of the folkways, mores, moral and ethical standards of our “Greatest Generation” parents and grand parents. Can someone please enlighten me? How can throwing up our hands and bitching about McCain accomplish anything conservative? Yes, he has many bad points against him. Do they outweigh Obamas bad points? I don’t understand everyone’s pessimism and “Eeeorr woe-is-me-ism” “nothings worth a damn” mindsets. We reap what we sow. If we lay down and give up, we will get what we got now. Only worse. MUCH worse. My point is, how can throwing a temper tantrum, sitting crosslegged with our arms folded and our bottom lips stuck out pouting, and not voting for either one which will assure Obama’s victory be good for the country? Better than if we ban together, hold our noses and vote for John McCain?
Yes,
My job here is done.
I shall spend the rest of the day fishin’…Trout…Real live trout.
This is a proposition that needs no further evidence. Res ipsa loquitur.
Have a nice day Frank.
For what its’ worth, we’re both on the same page.
Interesting thought, but IMHO, will never work. Let’s assume mcamnesty wins. He will either be up for re-election in 2012 and facing as bad or worse cnadidate from the dems (so we will be having to make “just one more compromise” to keep them out) or he walks away. If he walks away, the GOP will have had its plan to move more left validated by the election of mcamensty in 2008. SO they put up another mcamensty or worse. Of course, the dems have drifted leftward as well, so it is doubtful they will put up a moderate cnadidate ever again. Resulting in the same “just one more compromise to keep the dems out”. It will be never ending, until we are so mired in socialism we can never return.
Starting a 3rd party is tough. The best solution is to get he GOP to realize they can not “out-liberal” the dems and they do need the conservative base. That certainly will not happen if conservatives vote for mcamensty in masse. I doubt the GOP will move back right anyway in reality (they truly think this is the future of the party) so why not start he 3rd party movement now with a massive, you don’t represent us any longer, protest vote. It takes momentum nad time to get a 3rd party off the ground. I know BHO is scary, but I believe we will survive his socialist policies. My biggest issue is illegal immigration for reasons I have stated here before. Therefore, neither candidate is acceptable to me, so I will make my stand this election cycle. Not next or next or next….
Hmmm, using the handy Control-F function, I see I confused you with someone else.
Sorry ’bout that.
Ed, it was probably me with the “cheerleader” comment. Afterwards though, I think we began to understand one another. You have not acted like wise man and the rest of the name calling, fall in line mcamnesty cheerleaders. We just agree to disagree on how to vote.
Absolutely! And I lay it more at the feet of George Bush than even at the feet of the execrable John McCain (although our task now is to beat the GOP traitor who is currently running).
I went nuts when the Bush campaign started pandering with speeches in Spanish at the 2000 GOP convention. The problem with having a good-hearted fool like George Bush in the White House is that idiotic, feel-good instincts can eventuate in the destruction of a nation: Spanish at the GOP convention was the equivalent of Charles de Gaulle turning up in Canada in 1967 and saying, “Vive le Québec libre!” Both these events energized cultural challenges with the potential to cleave nations apart.
And where Bush was a “good-hearted fool,” his assault on Anglophone America is carried forward now by a nasty, opportunistic, megalomaniac whose treachery is not even mitigated by “good-heartedness.” You darn right, I am going to vote against McNasty…at any price.
(If “Anglophone America” is a strange-sounding phrase to some of you, get used to it. It will be increasingly used to describe the shriveling ethnic and cultural core of our once-great country.)
To be a little more clear on my first post F.Barnes was commenting that McCain only getting 80% republican vote was really bad because there are many more democrats than republicans and Bush had gotten around 92% republican support.
Someone above mentioned one reason to support McCain was free trade.Whether you agree with free trade or not as someone who lives in the midwest I can tell you that issue is a political loser especially this year.Trying to sell the idea of free trade and trade agreements like NAFTA in Ohio and rustbelt states will be like trying to sell ice to Eskimos.Not going to work.
Frank,
After a nice lunch, i can respond to your garbage.
When did I say i was staying home? Never. I chooose not to, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, cast my vote for those 2 losers. I cherish, and exercise, my right to vote, whether you like it or not.
But let me also display this. The wiki on “suffrage” states the following:
the founding fathers set the framework for who could vote. And there are appropriate laws governing who can vote. But the fathers were for the idea of people being able to vote, hence why our government is made of representatives.
I dont really see you making a point, defending anything other than your own absurdity, and simply say things to antagonize others with quips and “Go McCain Go” statements.
Irish, you’re not on the same page as this retard. You actually make solid, reasonable arguments. I don’t agree that you’re seeing things in the same light as me, and thats fine…we can agree to disagree.
But at least you’re not some shrill punk who doesn’t understand basic english, know anything about our government or its workings, and continues to be a thorn in the side of people that who you can’t argue with or debate well enough to make a point.
You tend to have at least a little class, even in disagreement.
My 2 cents. Nap time after a huge plate of sushi.
LOL, you blame Bush for McInsane pandering to Mexico? LOL LOL LOL.
It’s Bush’s fault! TOO Funny. I guess that’s why McLame wants to distance himself from Bush, it makes him do Loco things. LOL.
I think McCain will lose, Obama will outspend him about 3 to 1, and has the media in his corner. But, at least some normal Dems in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio, will see Obama is far to the left, and may actually see McCain’s “maverick”, er, RINO status as a plus.
Of course, there will be record Black turnout to support Obama, and there will be people voting Constitution and Libertarian as a protest vote.
I hope McCain wins, as bad as he is, because I think Obama is probably that bad. The man hangs out with domestic terror bombers, his wife clearly hates America and white people, and he thought enough of Jeremiah Wright, no matter how fast he threw him under the bus, to have his girls listen to that venom their entire lives.
McCain is utter filth. this proves it beyond doubt. anyone who would support this inhuman traitor after this is either insane or wants to destroy the nation, because that’s exactly what another amnesty will do.
you think we’re overrun with illegals now? pass another amnesty and we’ll have ALL of mexico and points south streaming in here unabated, because giving Amnesty to invaders is called Surrender. and the invaders know that. why don’t our elected officials? oh wait, they do, and they do it anyway. Juan McVain. God help us.
some here get it, but it’s amazing how many don’t.