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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Death in the waiting room</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/20/his-name-was-axel-casian/comment-page-1/#comment-364658</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Death in the waiting room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] man getting run down in Hartford, then the nightmare of people pulling over to watch that monster stomp his kid to death by the side of the road in California, and now just today a new report in the Seattle Times of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] man getting run down in Hartford, then the nightmare of people pulling over to watch that monster stomp his kid to death by the side of the road in California, and now just today a new report in the Seattle Times of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yashmak</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/20/his-name-was-axel-casian/comment-page-1/#comment-362038</link>
		<dc:creator>Yashmak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just doing things Americans won’t do.&lt;/blockquote&gt; - PJ

Do you know that this S.O.B. was an illegal, or even an immigrant of ANY kind?  I hadn&#039;t heard that.

At any rate, he&#039;s developed a hole in his head, and as such a needle isn&#039;t much of a threat to him anymore.

&lt;blockquote&gt; the left can still make Officer Jerry Ramar’s life a living hell. Wouldn’t surprise me if they try to portray him as a merciless killer, demand he be fired and arrested.&lt;/blockquote&gt; - nuss

I seriously doubt that&#039;s going to happen.  The ideology of the left may be screwed up, but the idea that they&#039;d go after this cop after he beat a toddler to death is pretty far-fetched.

I don&#039;t need to know Aguiar felt pain or not when he got shot.  I only need to know he will never be able to do what he did again.  A bullet to the head was just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just doing things Americans won’t do.</p></blockquote>
<p> &#8211; PJ</p>
<p>Do you know that this S.O.B. was an illegal, or even an immigrant of ANY kind?  I hadn&#8217;t heard that.</p>
<p>At any rate, he&#8217;s developed a hole in his head, and as such a needle isn&#8217;t much of a threat to him anymore.</p>
<blockquote><p> the left can still make Officer Jerry Ramar’s life a living hell. Wouldn’t surprise me if they try to portray him as a merciless killer, demand he be fired and arrested.</p></blockquote>
<p> &#8211; nuss</p>
<p>I seriously doubt that&#8217;s going to happen.  The ideology of the left may be screwed up, but the idea that they&#8217;d go after this cop after he beat a toddler to death is pretty far-fetched.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need to know Aguiar felt pain or not when he got shot.  I only need to know he will never be able to do what he did again.  A bullet to the head was just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbojack</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/20/his-name-was-axel-casian/comment-page-1/#comment-356142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbojack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On June 20th, 2008 at 9:43 am, Harris said:

See, that’s what I don’t get, all of this ’safe in the arms of Jesus’ stuff.

Where was Jesus Saturday night? Where was God when this monster stomped the life out of this child?

Was he watching? Was he powerless to stop it? It a child’s broken skull part of ‘His Plan’? I know I am on thin ice, and I don’t mean to belittle someone’s beliefs, but this is ALWAYS the feeling I have when children get killed.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I was an unbeliever for many years. A nonbeliever. I thought only logic and science mattered. But while applying logic and science to the question of creation, I could only come to the conclusion that this wasn&#039;t all random chance or some anomaly of the universe.
 My simplistic view tells me that if God intervened all the time and nothing bad ever happened, then we would already live in heaven. We are put here to prove ourselves, to fight whatever demons or tragedies that fall upon us to earn our place in heaven. If God jumped in every time we were going to screw up, how would we ever learn? That would be the modern public school system method of teaching. The thought of someone killing a child sickens me. The thought of adults doing nothing sickens me. Obviously Sergio Casian Aguiar failed the test big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On June 20th, 2008 at 9:43 am, Harris said:</p>
<p>See, that’s what I don’t get, all of this ’safe in the arms of Jesus’ stuff.</p>
<p>Where was Jesus Saturday night? Where was God when this monster stomped the life out of this child?</p>
<p>Was he watching? Was he powerless to stop it? It a child’s broken skull part of ‘His Plan’? I know I am on thin ice, and I don’t mean to belittle someone’s beliefs, but this is ALWAYS the feeling I have when children get killed.
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<p>I was an unbeliever for many years. A nonbeliever. I thought only logic and science mattered. But while applying logic and science to the question of creation, I could only come to the conclusion that this wasn&#8217;t all random chance or some anomaly of the universe.<br />
 My simplistic view tells me that if God intervened all the time and nothing bad ever happened, then we would already live in heaven. We are put here to prove ourselves, to fight whatever demons or tragedies that fall upon us to earn our place in heaven. If God jumped in every time we were going to screw up, how would we ever learn? That would be the modern public school system method of teaching. The thought of someone killing a child sickens me. The thought of adults doing nothing sickens me. Obviously Sergio Casian Aguiar failed the test big time.</p>
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		<title>By: rightisright</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/20/his-name-was-axel-casian/comment-page-1/#comment-356050</link>
		<dc:creator>rightisright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rest In Peace Axel, My heart goes out to you.</description>
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		<title>By: Irish Rose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/20/his-name-was-axel-casian/comment-page-1/#comment-356046</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is society coming to you ask?

Fear of litigation, plain and simple. 

It colors everything from refusing to offer first aid to someone who is hurt, to gawking at an un unconscious old man lying in the middle of the street and doing nothing, to standing by while someone is beating a child to death.

And we&#039;ll continue to slip down the slippery slope, until we decide that doing the right thing is more important than eluding a potential lawsuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is society coming to you ask?</p>
<p>Fear of litigation, plain and simple. </p>
<p>It colors everything from refusing to offer first aid to someone who is hurt, to gawking at an un unconscious old man lying in the middle of the street and doing nothing, to standing by while someone is beating a child to death.</p>
<p>And we&#8217;ll continue to slip down the slippery slope, until we decide that doing the right thing is more important than eluding a potential lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: nuss</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 20th, 2008 at 10:07 am, JHSII said: 
until Modesto police officer Jerry Ramar, dropped on the scene by helicopter, killed him with a single gunshot to the head, authorities said.
Good.

Now there won’t be 30 years of trials and appeals and he won’t become a poster boy for the left like Mumia.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

JHSII beat me to it on this.  I had the same thought.  Unfortunately, the left can still make Officer Jerry Ramar&#039;s life a living hell.  Wouldn&#039;t surprise me if they try to portray him as a merciless killer, demand he be fired and arrested.  Some slimeball lawyers are probably already trying to figure out a way to sue the police officer and his department.  Jerry Ramar is a hero.  Leave him alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 20th, 2008 at 10:07 am, JHSII said:<br />
until Modesto police officer Jerry Ramar, dropped on the scene by helicopter, killed him with a single gunshot to the head, authorities said.<br />
Good.</p>
<p>Now there won’t be 30 years of trials and appeals and he won’t become a poster boy for the left like Mumia.</p></blockquote>
<p>JHSII beat me to it on this.  I had the same thought.  Unfortunately, the left can still make Officer Jerry Ramar&#8217;s life a living hell.  Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if they try to portray him as a merciless killer, demand he be fired and arrested.  Some slimeball lawyers are probably already trying to figure out a way to sue the police officer and his department.  Jerry Ramar is a hero.  Leave him alone.</p>
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		<title>By: CO2 Producer</title>
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		<dc:creator>CO2 Producer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It didn&#039;t occur to the bystanders to at least push the father away, pick up the child, and run?

Too many people are viewing life as though it&#039;s a constant youtube video &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/05/video-elderly-man-left-for-dead-in-street-as-cars-drive-past/comment-page-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;or&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.local6.com/news/9637801/detail.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;something&lt;/a&gt;. Because psychologists want to give the problem a name like the Kitty Genovese bystander syndrome, it&#039;s supposed to excuse the problem. What happened to the Good Samaritan syndrome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It didn&#8217;t occur to the bystanders to at least push the father away, pick up the child, and run?</p>
<p>Too many people are viewing life as though it&#8217;s a constant youtube video <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/05/video-elderly-man-left-for-dead-in-street-as-cars-drive-past/comment-page-2/" rel="nofollow">or</a> <a href="http://www.local6.com/news/9637801/detail.html" rel="nofollow">something</a>. Because psychologists want to give the problem a name like the Kitty Genovese bystander syndrome, it&#8217;s supposed to excuse the problem. What happened to the Good Samaritan syndrome?</p>
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		<title>By: IndyRich</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndyRich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#72 Tre;
I, too, hope I&#039;m forgiven of those feelings when the time comes to face my maker...</description>
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I, too, hope I&#8217;m forgiven of those feelings when the time comes to face my maker&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On June 20th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, &lt;strong&gt;Dandapani&lt;/strong&gt; said: 
Believe it or not, some California County Sheriffs will issue concealed carry permits to his residents… Apparently not in Stanislaus County. A CCW holder could have stopped the situation. The police are not responsible for individual protection. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Thankfully Arizona is a SHALL issue state. Take a class, pass the test, pay your fee and it is yours. I would rather have the Vermont/Alaska model of no need for a permit, but at least we do not have local discretion. It has saved lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On June 20th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, <strong>Dandapani</strong> said:<br />
Believe it or not, some California County Sheriffs will issue concealed carry permits to his residents… Apparently not in Stanislaus County. A CCW holder could have stopped the situation. The police are not responsible for individual protection. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thankfully Arizona is a SHALL issue state. Take a class, pass the test, pay your fee and it is yours. I would rather have the Vermont/Alaska model of no need for a permit, but at least we do not have local discretion. It has saved lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Dandapani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dandapani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, some California County Sheriffs will issue concealed carry permits to his residents... Apparently not in Stanislaus County.  A CCW holder could have stopped the situation. The police are not responsible for individual protection.  When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, some California County Sheriffs will issue concealed carry permits to his residents&#8230; Apparently not in Stanislaus County.  A CCW holder could have stopped the situation. The police are not responsible for individual protection.  When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.</p>
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		<title>By: supersean</title>
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		<dc:creator>supersean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#39 abstractmind

I can &lt;strong&gt;somewhat &lt;/strong&gt;comprehend bystanders not wanting to immediately intervene (not knowing that a child was the victim, not knowing of the assailant was armed, etc) during the physical alteration. We have to remember that this attack occurred at night (just after 10:00 PM). 

But I cannot for the life of me understand how those who did identify the victim as a child did not assist when the father stopped the attack to help a bystander activate the hazard lights on his truck.</description>
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<p>I can <strong>somewhat </strong>comprehend bystanders not wanting to immediately intervene (not knowing that a child was the victim, not knowing of the assailant was armed, etc) during the physical alteration. We have to remember that this attack occurred at night (just after 10:00 PM). </p>
<p>But I cannot for the life of me understand how those who did identify the victim as a child did not assist when the father stopped the attack to help a bystander activate the hazard lights on his truck.</p>
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		<title>By: Papa Louie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papa Louie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;shooter said: 
IF everything was ‘good’ with no evil, we would not know it, as there would be no bad or anything ‘less than good’ to compare the good against.  We would be automatons with a very monotonous day to day existence. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Exactly!  That&#039;s why a robot&#039;s programming is referred to as &quot;artificial intelligence.&quot;  It can appear to make choices but all of its decisions are predetermined by its programming.  It has no free will and can nether be happy nor unhappy. Someone who has no say in their own life can never truly be happy:

Happiness requires free will.
Free will requires a choice between good and evil.
Choice means evil can exist.
Evil means some will suffer and be unhappy.

You can&#039;t create happiness by force, but you can use force to limit evil by limiting freedom of choice.  Liberals try to do that all the time.  Because God won&#039;t take away free will, liberals try to replace God with an all-powerful State.  With the &quot;good intentions&quot; of eliminating inequality and suffering, they use the power of the State to limit individual freedoms, redistribute wealth, and curb free markets.  But because some work harder or are more talented than others, inequality will creep in unless the government watches everything and controls everything.  This always ends up turning every liberal utopia into a police state like North Korea, Cuba, or Stalin&#039;s Russia.  Where has it ever succeeded?  

So, it comes down to a choice between a free society - where people have the greatest opportunity to succeed but where inequality and evil, like child abuse, will also exist - or a tightly controlled society where everyone suffers equally (except the ruling class, of course.)  If there is another viable alternative, I would like to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>shooter said:<br />
IF everything was ‘good’ with no evil, we would not know it, as there would be no bad or anything ‘less than good’ to compare the good against.  We would be automatons with a very monotonous day to day existence. </p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly!  That&#8217;s why a robot&#8217;s programming is referred to as &#8220;artificial intelligence.&#8221;  It can appear to make choices but all of its decisions are predetermined by its programming.  It has no free will and can nether be happy nor unhappy. Someone who has no say in their own life can never truly be happy:</p>
<p>Happiness requires free will.<br />
Free will requires a choice between good and evil.<br />
Choice means evil can exist.<br />
Evil means some will suffer and be unhappy.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t create happiness by force, but you can use force to limit evil by limiting freedom of choice.  Liberals try to do that all the time.  Because God won&#8217;t take away free will, liberals try to replace God with an all-powerful State.  With the &#8220;good intentions&#8221; of eliminating inequality and suffering, they use the power of the State to limit individual freedoms, redistribute wealth, and curb free markets.  But because some work harder or are more talented than others, inequality will creep in unless the government watches everything and controls everything.  This always ends up turning every liberal utopia into a police state like North Korea, Cuba, or Stalin&#8217;s Russia.  Where has it ever succeeded?  </p>
<p>So, it comes down to a choice between a free society &#8211; where people have the greatest opportunity to succeed but where inequality and evil, like child abuse, will also exist &#8211; or a tightly controlled society where everyone suffers equally (except the ruling class, of course.)  If there is another viable alternative, I would like to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this will serve as a wake up call for everyone involved..  be more diligent..  be their SEE moment (Significant Emotional Event) to help change a life..  if the people involved see another situation like that, they will be more apt to step in and do something..</description>
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		<title>By: theroc5156</title>
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		<dc:creator>theroc5156</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Axel,

Rest in peace little angel. May God hold you in the palm of his hand. May you live the rest of eternity in happiness. I pray that you will forgive me and all other adults for failing to protect you and sit idly by while you suffered.</description>
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<p>Rest in peace little angel. May God hold you in the palm of his hand. May you live the rest of eternity in happiness. I pray that you will forgive me and all other adults for failing to protect you and sit idly by while you suffered.</p>
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		<title>By: Scooter36</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scooter36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its God&#039;s fault. he let this happen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its God&#8217;s fault. he let this happen</p>
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