Six more days ’til the From the Frontlines web-a-thon

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 20, 2008 12:37 PM

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Just six more days ’til the awesome event I told you about over Memorial Day weekend. “From the Frontlines” is a joint project of Melanie Morgan’s Move America Forward, UStream.TV, and Hot Air. On June 26, from 4pm Eastern/1pm Pacific to 12midnight Eastern/9pm Pacific, Melanie and I will be anchoring a livestreamed, 8-hour fund-raising “web-a-thon” to send the largest number of care packages to our troops overseas in U.S. history. We’ve got a star-studded line-up participating in this effort to support our military, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, Dr Laura Schlessinger, Ollie North, Monica Crowley, Ann Coulter, Nancy Reagan, actor Kelsey Grammer, and Five for Fighting’s John Ondrasik. You’ll be able to tune it at Hot Air and on UStream, embed the broadcast on your own blogs, and even catch some of the show on your radio dial if you’re lucky to be in the listening area of a radio station partner.

You can purchase care packages right now, right here, in advance of the web-a-thon. Buy early and often! MAF has raised over $200,000 in advance of the telethon. Our goal is $500,000.

The tireless Melanie Morgan got the ball rolling a few months ago during an e-mail exchange we were having about the untapped synergies between radio, grass-roots conservative activism, and the Internet. I introduced her to Brad Hunstable at UStream and things took off like a rocket. The MAF team has amazing organizational skills and boundless energy; UStream’s staff has also gone above and beyond in making the program happen. I’m honored to play a small part in this unprecedented event and can’t wait for you to join us for an unforgettable day. Mark your calendars, tell your friends, and be sure to tune in.

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Catherine Moy of MAF has more:

Thousands of Americans have already sponsored packages through MAF’s website and a giant database of names and addresses of U.S. troops in Iraq & Afghanistan is being built—so that the packages can reach our military men and women in time for the 4th of July holiday. MAF would like all families with loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan to send addresses and names to ensure all troops benefit from the overwhelming support of a grateful nation, Morgan said.

Local businesses have stepped up for the cause. Sacramento-based coffee roaster, Cornerstone Coffee, is a principal supplier of the coffee included in the care packages. And the old Travelodge hotel on 11th & H donated offices used for preparing the care packages prior to shipping. The Travelodge has been refurbished into the new work/loft office complex known as “Retrolodge.”

The Fairfield-based Jelly Belly Co., which makes the gourmet Jelly Belly beans made famous by President Ronald Reagan, has donated 100,000 bags of their gourmet jelly beans that will be included in the care packages to assist in the effort.

“This effort has stuck a nerve with people from across the nation and here in Sacramento,” Morgan said. “I am personally ecstatic about the love the American people have for our troops.”

Families of troops have already sent thankful notes to MAF, explaining how the men and women on the frontlines of the war against radical Islam appreciate every note, every package from home.

Jeff Via Sr., a Vietnam veteran, sent the address of his son, who is serving in Afghanistan.

“Thanks so much for the support. He graduated from college and decided that the military was what he wanted to do. He didn’t even go in to be an officer. He decided instead to be enlisted first so that, if and when he decides to go be an officer, he will know what it was like to be enlisted,” Via Sr. said. “Once again, thanks for the support. I know from experience how much it means to the troops.”

Roger Quarton is a minister whose son is fighting for the United States.

“My son is serving with the Marines in Iraq, and I’d like to pass along his address to you, so he might be able to receive a package,” Quarton wrote.” “I know it would be a huge “pick-me-up’ for him and his buddies! Thanks for your help and encouragement to him, and myself!”

…Sacramento residents who want to donate items or make a financial contribution to the care package drive can do so by emailing Ryan Gill at Ryan@MoveAmericaForward.org (Move America Forward is accepting coffee, cookies, beef jerky, Gatorade, lip balm, sunblock, insect repellant, foot powder, personal fans, and wet wipes for the care packages).

Residents should send names and addresses of troops to Poohdo@aol.com.

Mel talked to Radio Equalizer’s Brian Maloney about the talk radio giants who will be joining us.

So many folks and groups are pitching in. We’re grateful to each and every one of them.

Among them:

*Eagles Up is helping with the care packages and working on including phone cards.
*The Office of General David Petraeus
*Former US Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton
* Human Events, NR/NRO, Pajamas Media, Townhall, WorldNetDaily, American Thinker
*Vets for Freedom, Operation Care & Comfort, Gathering of Eagles, Gold Star/Blue Star parents
*And many, many more
*Band of Mothers

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  1. #355518
    On June 20th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    You’re a powerhouse Michelle. Thanks.

  2. #355522
    On June 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, atheling said:

    I thought Kelsey Grammar had a stroke or heart attack recently. I hope he is doing well.

  3. #355540
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, karenhasfreedom said:

    I ordered my super pack for the troops. What about everyone else here? Let’s all make a difference.

  4. #355552
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, On-my-soap-box said:
  5. #355559
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    You can purchase care packages right now, right here, in advance of the web-a-thon. Buy early and often! MAF has raised over $200,000 in advance of the telethon. Our goal is $500,000.

    Here’s to hoping you not only meet but exceed your goal! I’ve placed my order… go, go, go!

  6. #355591
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, BobK said:

    Michelle, You are a sweetheart. How in the heck do you get some much patriotism in such a little package?

  7. #355593
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:32 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    The Jelly Belly Company is awesome!!!

    When I started sending boxes to my troops in 2002 (OSOT) – I cantacted Jelly Belly- they sent me several cases to send…

    Thank YOU –Jelly Belly!

  8. #355606
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, DubiousD said:

    I couldn’t help noticing the seeming absence of liberal personalities on your list. Sean Hannity but not Alan Colmes? Kelsey Grammer but not… er… everyone else in Hollywood? Were they even invited to participate? Don’t they support our troops?

  9. #355608
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, SalsaNChips said:

    Excellent! I just ordered 2 of the Personal Care Packs and will order a few more during the webathon.

    God Bless Our Troops!

  10. #355610
    On June 20th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Were they even invited to participate? Don’t they support our troops?

    They were too busy hanging out in trees and attending Code Pink rallies. /sarc

  11. #355614
    On June 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, taylork said:

    I’ll order my care package in a bit, but I’m now starting to question Townhall.com WND and its rabid anti-semite columnist/Hilter apologist Pat Buchanan.

  12. #355641
    On June 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, karenhasfreedom said:

    I think Pat Buchanan has flipped his lid. He has been ranting weird for a while yet. Why does he think fundamentalists are going to vote for Obama? Weird.

  13. #355653
    On June 20th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, Bulldog said:

    My son just got back from Baghdad about three weeks ago and I am looking for a way to get back involved in direct support of our troops and I have found it!! What a great country we live in!!

  14. #355659
    On June 20th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, taylork said:
  15. #355694
    On June 20th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, abstractmind said:

    When i get home, you better believe i’ll be ordering!

    Thank you Michelle, for your unwavering support of our fine troops. I know you’re involved with other solider charities, and i have been looking to see how i can get more involved myself.

    Step it up people. Meet the challenge. I challenge anyone who can to step up with me, and contact Soldier’s Angels to make an even greater impact.

    Who’s with me???????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

  16. #355701
    On June 20th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, DaveC said:

    Hosted by MM and MM.. how can you not like that :)

  17. #355736
    On June 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, JT said:

    I’m down. Bought 2 packs. Will buy a couple more during Michelle’s webcast.

  18. #355762
    On June 20th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, purplepeep said:

    Excellent, Michelle! What a wonderful, simple way to show our appreciation.

    And we can pass the word & links along to family and friends!

    A suggestion – the UStream page itself probably should list the hours of the webcast so folks can when to tune in.

    Just noting Pacific/Eastern time zones would be fine, those of us in flyover Central Time (sniff, sob, sniff, po’ po’ us) are used to making the simple mental clock adjustment. :)

  19. #355777
    On June 20th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Awesome!

  20. #355859
    On June 20th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Thanks Melanie and Michelle. As a retired AF vet married to a retired AF vet, these kinds of care packages make such a morale difference to our wonderful troops. My husband never got anything like this (except from family) while in Vietnam. We are happy to participate. God bless you all.

  21. #355914
    On June 20th, 2008 at 5:49 pm, purplepeep said:

    taylork said:
    I’ll order my care package in a bit, but I’m now starting to question Townhall.com WND and its rabid anti-semite columnist/Hilter apologist Pat Buchanan.

    Taylor – I truly understand your anger, but remember this is for/all about showing our support for the amazing women and men who keep us a free people.

  22. #355964
    On June 20th, 2008 at 7:09 pm, terrig said:

    Karen # 3, he did have a mild heart attack at his HI home but is said to be doing fine now.
    Will get on this asap.
    Michelle, saw a fabulous picture of you today in the Washington Times.
    Taylor, I am also having trouble with that idiot Pat Buchanan but as Purplepeep said, it’s for a much greater cause. I also hit delete when I receive their daily missives (sp?) been a long day.
    As others have mentioned, it’s conservatives, where are the liberals? I’m sure the usual trolls won’t be participating either but you know-they support the troops/sarc off.
    I will get on this now and sign off for the evening. Got to talk to hubby this afternoon so it’s been a great day. Have a nice weekend all! :)

  23. #355974
    On June 20th, 2008 at 7:15 pm, Mookie said:

    As others have mentioned, it’s conservatives, where are the liberals? I’m sure the usual trolls won’t be participating either but you know-they support the troops/sarc off.

    Were any liberals invited to participate?

  24. #355986
    On June 20th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, Mookie said:

    Just to clarify my question, did Hannity invite Colmes to participate and he declined? Anyone who would decline to participate in something like this would be pretty heartless.

  25. #356028
    On June 20th, 2008 at 8:50 pm, emjem24 said:

    Thank you, Michelle, for your continued support of the military. As a military spouse, it’s very important to be involved in any way an American can. Without you, I would totally give up hope about this country and its future.

    The sad thing is, there are many Americans who are so insulated, so ignorant, so sure that our country shouldn’t be able to defend itself or even have a military. Some of those people exist in my family. In times like this, such a reality gives me pause.

    I know that those who really don’t like Hannity will groan at this but I just wanted to say it:

    MICHELLE MALKIN, YOU’RE A GREAT AMERICAN! :grin:

  26. #356040
    On June 20th, 2008 at 9:08 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    On June 26, from 4pm Eastern/1pm Pacific to 12midnight Eastern/9pm Pacific, Melanie and I will be anchoring a livestreamed, 8-hour fund-raising “web-a-thon” to send the largest number of care packages to our troops overseas in U.S. history

    8 hours with Michelle Malkin? I think the wife might get jealous! I might have to make this a guerilla secret operation! Heh

    Seriously, MM Thank you for supporting the Troops. I served in Iraq, and my brother is there now. This means a lot. God bless you.

    /s/

    José

  27. #356052
    On June 20th, 2008 at 9:21 pm, zorro said:

    I normally do not stay up that late (midnight) but for this occasion I’ll be there the entire time. My family, friends and I will commit to as many of the packages as possible. I’m in for one goodies large pack and will certainly do at least another.

  28. #356065
    On June 20th, 2008 at 9:44 pm, rightisright said:

    Michelle,
    Great effort and wonderful cause, none more deserving. If I may mention here, i appreciate and commend every effort you make in your writings, your appearances on t.v. and your over whelming patriotism you show everyday. I’d like to mention I myself am a Soldier’s Angel(never looked at myself as an angel) I like to suggest any of your readers here that would like to help the troops S.A.’s is a great way to do it on a routine bases. It’s requested you send 1 letter or note a week to your soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan and 1 care package a month. The packages are items that will help the soldiers deal with their situation in their temporary home. Items like lips balm, nasal spray, hand lotion, non perishable food items nothing special. I go to the local Walmart and pick the items I think are needed and send. Very similar to your effort only a little more consistent basis. I sincerely appreciate all you do for us(The U.S.A.).
    Thank You

  29. #356088
    On June 20th, 2008 at 10:31 pm, olympian2008 said:

    My favorite place for supporting the men and women serving in the military is Any Soldier. Once there click on the ‘Where to Send’ link at the top and it takes you to a page where you can read the soldier’s request and get their mailing address overseas (there are many new requests each day). For the past 3+ years now I’ve averaged sending care packages to at least two soldiers per week, sometimes 4 or 5 especially when holidays are approaching. I get everything they ask for no matter what the cost. Sometimes it ends up being 4 to 6 boxes per soldier. I always include my email address and it’s always nice to get a message back from the soldier you sent items to.

    In our country of 300+ million it wouldn’t take to much effort to make sure every man and woman in our military of 2+ million received at least a few care packages each year.

    For this Web-a-thon I emailed a link to this blog post to all the local talk show hosts here in Denver area (on 850am KOA, 630am KHOW and 600am KCOL). Hopefully they’ll mention this project and next Thursday’s webcast on the air a few times.

  30. #356097
    On June 20th, 2008 at 11:00 pm, rightisright said:

    olympian2008, I envy you for your ability to give more…I’m on disability rising food prices and gas @ #4.33 today puts a crimp in ones generosity at times, sorry to say.

  31. #356099
    On June 20th, 2008 at 11:01 pm, rightisright said:

    whoops…$4.33 today…

  32. #356238
    On June 21st, 2008 at 5:40 am, commjoc said:

    I tried to purchase a care package, but because I am overseas and have a military APO address, the site would not allow me to fill in my correct address for the credit card info. That info must match what the credit card company has on file or the transaction won’t be approved. This happens a lot to people like myself who have an APO address. I think this is an extremely worthy cause and would love to donate. Does anyone have a work-around?

  33. #356288
    On June 21st, 2008 at 9:15 am, JT said:

    commjoc,

    Did you try the international order form? On the regular order form, there is a spot in blue that you can click on/

    If that doesn’t work, email them. I’m sure they’re familiar with this issue.

  34. #356290
    On June 21st, 2008 at 9:19 am, JT said:

    josetheguerilla,

    My better half looks a lot like Michelle but her voice is a little different from Michelle’s. I was asleep on the lazyboy one day and Michelle was on FOX. I woke up wondering why my wife was on FOX. :)

  35. #356291
    On June 21st, 2008 at 9:22 am, joeswampy said:

    Oh I get it now,
    “Conservatives” are
    Nazis and Racists, but will stand by the military:
    “Liberals” are
    Tolerant and Loving, but will give aid and comfort to the enemy.

    I am gonna link now and send over two boxes from me and my family.

    Thank you MM and MM and all the others for all that you do for the military and GOD bless.

  36. #356302
    On June 21st, 2008 at 9:50 am, commjoc said:

    JT,

    Thanks for the info. I didn’t read the small print at the top of the form. The international form seemed to work. The order is on its way!

  37. #356377
    On June 21st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, terrig said:

    Mookie, why do liberals have to be invited, why can’t they volunteer? Why do you have to be asked to do something that you people should be doing? Why don’t the libs step up to the plate? As a liberal, how many did you purchase? Just asking-I did 4 packs myself but you can do one. I know that liberals like to whine about everything but you can also step up without being asked. I didn’t see where you mentioned you’d participate. Just asking as you like to say. It would be pretty heartless of you to put this all on the shoulders of the conservatives. I mean, you support the troops right? Liberals always say they do but are alwayse AWOL or UA (for the Navy folks here) when it comes to doing something. Just a fact, not an opinion as I’ve run into too many of your types who do nothing but like to spout off about being “hurt” because no liberals are on the venue.

  38. #356395
    On June 21st, 2008 at 12:58 pm, Mookie said:

    On June 21st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, terrig said:

    Mookie, why do liberals have to be invited, why can’t they volunteer? Why do you have to be asked to do something that you people should be doing? Why don’t the libs step up to the plate? As a liberal, how many did you purchase? Just asking-I did 4 packs myself but you can do one. I know that liberals like to whine about everything but you can also step up without being asked. I didn’t see where you mentioned you’d participate. Just asking as you like to say. It would be pretty heartless of you to put this all on the shoulders of the conservatives. I mean, you support the troops right? Liberals always say they do but are alwayse AWOL or UA (for the Navy folks here) when it comes to doing something. Just a fact, not an opinion as I’ve run into too many of your types who do nothing but like to spout off about being “hurt” because no liberals are on the venue.

    You missed my point altogether. Someone asked why Alan Colmes wasn’t doing anything since Hannity was. I responded by asking if any liberals had been invited to participate in the broadcast and if they were and refused, they should be ashamed. If Colmes had said to Hannity, “Hey, I think this is a great idea and I’d love to come on the show with you”, do you Hannity would say yes? I mean, look at that lineup. He’d stick out like a sore thumb. But that doesn’t mean he won’t contribute financially or hasn’t already.

    As far as my contribution goes, the first thing I need to correct you on is your assumption that I’m a liberal. I’m not. I’ve been a supporter of both wars since day 1 and am against any set time table for withdrawal. To date, I’ve sent around 35 care packages through AnySoldier.com, participated in phone card drives, and am working with a local group to send Boston Celtics NBA championship hats and t-shirts to our Army National Guard soldiers in Iraq. I’ve also helped coordinate a toy drive at Christmas for local kids whose parents are/were deployed.

    I sure do hope that’s good enough for you.

  39. #356398
    On June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pm, terrig said:

    That’s just fine Mookie, I give a lot myself (don’t keep a running tally though like you do) but you seemed greatly offended that libs weren’t on the venue. Perhaps they don’t want to be. Alan doesn’t seem to care too much if he does stick out like a sore thumb. As much as I’m not a fan of Vannity’s, he’s certainly would make him welcome and they could be put on their little silly show. I’m sure he asked but he’s not going to come out and say “I asked Alan and he declined”, I mean that show is a large part of his take home money and they need each other.
    I am just tired of the “support the troops” mantra by the liberals who do nothing but say they “support” the troops.

  40. #356403
    On June 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pm, Mookie said:

    On June 21st, 2008 at 1:07 pm, terrig said:

    That’s just fine Mookie, I give a lot myself (don’t keep a running tally though like you do) but you seemed greatly offended that libs weren’t on the venue.

    Believe me, I don’t keep a running tally. The only reason I did that was because you called me out on my presumed lack of support.

    And again, I wasn’t greatly offended in the least about any liberals not being on the venue. Go back and read my comment. Other people had posted, asking where the liberals were. I responded by asking if any were invited in the first place and if they had been and said no, they should be ashamed. I don’t know how you’re getting that I was “greatly offended” when my comments implied nothing of the sort.

  41. #356426
    On June 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm, concretebob said:

    You’ll be hearing from me.

  42. #356469
    On June 21st, 2008 at 4:23 pm, terrig said:

    Well Mookie, I apologize then. It’s just whenever people are asking where the heck the libs are, it comes across as they should have been included by MM & MM and how terrible they weren’t. That’s all I evidently mistook your tone. Sorry for that, Mea Culpa. I always apologize when I am wrong-which is rare ;) . Have a nice weekend.

  43. #356514
    On June 21st, 2008 at 5:43 pm, Mookie said:

    I always apologize when I am wrong-which is rare ;) . Have a nice weekend.

    No worries. Hope your weekend is nice as well. :)

  44. #356612
    On June 21st, 2008 at 10:08 pm, Bugler said:
  45. #356614
    On June 21st, 2008 at 10:10 pm, Bugler said:

    Oh, Heavens, that wasn’t mine! Here’s the correct crawl, with my apologies:

    http://www.starwarscrawl.com/?id=9472

  46. #356658
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 12:22 am, ThackerAgency said:

    cool sounds like a great event for a good cause. Good luck to you.

  47. #356716
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 7:00 am, Lockstein13 said:

    As a brief reminder just why there is a “frontline” today:

    http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/22/288434-why-islam-cannot-reform/

  48. #356756
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 10:09 am, Irish Rose said:

    OT but Michelle, what the heck is that advert on your sidebar proclaiming “Pat Robertson and Al Sharpton have come together to save the word! Now we need your help”

    Click the link and it takes you to THIS?!!

    They are promoting a “generational message” from Algore.

    What. the. heck?

  49. #356791
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:10 am, Irish Rose said:

    And Michelle, I hate to keep hammering away at this… but I have to ask you this as a military parent:

    Why do you continue to work so hard to discredit the only candidate running for the office of POTUS who is 100 percent committed to strengthening our military and giving them the support that they need abroad to finish their work in Iraq and Afghanistan?

    Do you not understand that if BO is elected it will weaken our military, severely endanger our men and women in the field, increase the likelihood of domestic terror attacks tenfold, and make the jobs of our loved ones in uniform that much harder? Why can you not understand that?!
    I’m sorry, I don’t understand your way of thinking and I’m frustrated and angered by what I read on this blog every day.

    I’m very glad to see you promoting this kind of effort, but if you truly support our Troops then you should be doing it all the way across the board in my opinion.

    I understand that you are using your McCain rants as tool to try and pressure the Senator into leaning farther to the right.

    But for the love of God, it’s time to lay aside the usual election-year political games and GET SERIOUS. The Nation is at a very critical crossroad here, this is one of the most critical times in our Nations history and we simply CAN’T AFFORD IT.

    DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND that we have an enemy abroad who has very clearly and repeatedly stated their intent to terrorize this nation, change the fabric of our National structure, bring the American people to their knees economically and bring the war back to our shores?

    John McCain might be a flawed candidate, Michelle, but this is something that he fully understands …and that ALONE should be reason enough to support him. Barack Obama is not simply misguided, he is DANGEROUS.

    Do you not remember what happened on 9/11? John McCain does. AND SO DO I. It’s why my firstborn son is now away serving, and it’s why my beautiful daughter will soon be leaving me to serve. Like Mr. McCain, they FULLY understand why we are fighting and what we are fighting for and they are giving up their personal freedoms so that you and YOUR family can sleep safely at night.

    You say that you support our military, but your behavior with regard to this election is contradictory and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    I have a son in the Marine Corps with boots on the ground, and it makes me physically sick and frequently livid to come here and read some of your anti-McCain rants because I understand the potential long-term ramifications.

    If you truly care about our military and honor the service of our men and women in uniform then for heavens’ sake, STOP trying to throw a wrench into the campaign of the only candidate for POTUS who supports our men and women in uniform.

    I see no other way to describe this behavior than anti-military, Michelle. What you are doing here is going to help put a Marxist in charge of our US Armed Forces. It’s almost a guarantee that the first item on his agenda will be to yank our people out of the Middle East, reduce or eliminate military funding, restructure our military from top to bottom and negate the sacrifices of our brave soldiers and Marines. Many of those sacrifices, the ULTIMATE sacrifice.

    An Obama election will also trigger such a tremendous wave of scorn and ridicule upon the heads of US Military personnel and their families both globally and domestically that the Vietnam era will look like a Sunday School picnic.

    And let me tell you Michelle, this makes military parents and spouses like me very anxious and VERY angry.

    I know that there are those here who will jump in to criticize me, but I’d really like an answer from Michelle on this one, and not the usual round of posts defending her. I’m a military parent, I have a personal stake in this war and the ramifications for my family will be FAR different under an Obama administration than it will be for non-military familes. I’m not the only one, either… there are other military family members here, and spouses of military personnel here as well. I think that we ALL deserve an explanation from Ms. Malkin. I would personally like to know exactly what she thinks she is trying to achieve here?

    During the course of a typical week I spend a great deal of time talking with other military families and almost without exception we are concerned about the future of our loved ones.

    This is an honest question, and it deserves an honest answer.

    What say ye, Michelle?

  50. #356799
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 am, Irish Rose said:

    And by the way, I’m not going to let the above post disappear down the memory hole simply because it’s an older thread.

    I’m going to keep asking this question, until I get an answer.

  51. #356812
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:52 am, Irish Rose said:

    And to those of you who are busily composing responses about “shamnesty”… can it.

    Of course immigration and border security are important issues.

    But any work on these issues can be done with the candidate AFTER he assumes office.

    Time is of the essence, here. If you continue to play election games like this, a very dangerous man will be taking possession of the key to the Oval Office.

    And I can virtually guarantee you that the fabric of this Nation will begin to disintegrate the moment that Barack Obama steps over that threshhold. Mr. Obama has a radical agenda for the US, and he will not waste ANY time implimenting it.

    The US Military will be the FIRST item on his list.

  52. #356865
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Irish Rose said:

    From Mr. McCains’ official website:

    A Strong Military in a Dangerous World

    John McCain understands national security and the threats facing our nation. He recognizes the dangers posed by the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, violent Islamist extremists and their terrorist tactics, and the ever present threat of regional conflict that can spill into broader wars that endanger allies and destabilize areas of the world vital to American security. He knows that to protect our homeland, our interests, and our values – and to keep the peace – America must have the best-manned, best-equipped, and best-supported military in the world.

    John McCain has been a tireless advocate of our military and ensuring that our forces are properly postured, funded, and ready to meet the nation’s obligations both at home and abroad. He has fought to modernize our forces, to ensure that America maintains and expands its technological edge against any potential adversary, and to see that our forces are capable and ready to undertake the variety of missions necessary to meet national security objectives.

    As President, John McCain will strengthen the military, shore up our alliances, and ensure that the nation is capable of protecting the homeland, deterring potential military challenges, responding to any crisis that endangers American security, and prevailing in any conflict we are forced to fight.

    Mr. McCain shares the same values that I hold as a military parent and the same values that my son, a US Marine who is proudly serving this Nation, does.

    I encourage efforts like the one that Michelle is promoting here. Our men and women in uniform are the best of the best and deserve the full support of the American people. I’ve sent dozens of care packages overseas, and I intend to send dozens more. It is the least that I can do for those who are working so hard to secure my freedom here at home.

    I’m going to do more than send care packages, though.

    I’m going to continue to support the candidate who will honor the service of our men and women in uniform… not the Marxist, terror-appeasing candidate who will denigrate it.

  53. #356873
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 2:15 pm, JHSII said:

    Irish Rose – Did you ever hear of McCain-Feingold? How about the unConstitutional Gang-Bang of Fourteen?

    I don’t trust McCain – and I won’t vote for him.

    Give me someone who will uphold the Constitution.

  54. #357013
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 5:21 pm, sasintexas said:

    thanks Michele & Melanie for making this happen and to those who are joining the telethon. Went ahead and did mine on-line and what an honor and privilege to help out in some small way. God Bless all our Troops and their families for the sacrifices they endure everyday.

  55. #357016
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 5:27 pm, ctmom said:

    I’m sending one from myself and my friend who has everything! We both celebrate our birthdays on Thursday and it will be my gift to her!

  56. #357032
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 5:52 pm, JT said:

    Irish Rose,

    I fully concur. Any conservative, moderate or Reagan Democrat that either:

    1) Votes for Obama

    2) Writes in some other name

    3) Doesn’t vote for POTUS at all

    4) Or stays home

    Does not care about what happens to our military. Does not care if our enemies get stronger. Does not care if there is another attack on US soil.

    Lets fight on the other issues after McCain gets elected. We can win the conservative battles down the ticket. We can stay on top of the issues, and fight against Amnesty.

    This isn’t the 1970’s where we can survive Carter. This is the new century in which our enemies have much more at their disposal to hurt Americans.

  57. #357048
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 6:31 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Did you ever hear of McCain-Feingold?

    And that has effectively limited whose speech? Oh don’t get me wrong, it is a lousy law, but what has it done? The only person I can think of that it has had a negative effect on is McCain.

    How about the unConstitutional Gang-Bang of Fourteen?

    There was nothing unconstitutional about that and thank God they did what they did. The Democrats now control congress and had the nuclear option been employed we would have had funding cut for the troops before the surge. What McCain dis was help preserve the checks and balances that have kept the country together.

    I don’t trust McCain – and I won’t vote for him.

    Lots of people are going to vote for Obama. Just don’t kid yourself that you are a Republican.

  58. #357068
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 7:22 pm, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant #57

    Did you ever hear of McCain-Feingold?

    And that has effectively limited whose speech? Oh don’t get me wrong, it is a lousy law, but what has it done? The only person I can think of that it has had a negative effect on is McCain.

    The NRA and other Conservative groups, that’s who it has affected. It even affects Rush Limbaugh.

    How about the unConstitutional Gang-Bang of Fourteen?

    There was nothing unconstitutional about that and thank God they did what they did. The Democrats now control congress and had the nuclear option been employed we would have had funding cut for the troops before the surge. What McCain dis was help preserve the checks and balances that have kept the country together.

    It changed the US Constitution from requiring 51 votes (a simple majority) to requiring 61 votes (a super-majority) and it did that without the usual formality of a Constitutional Amendment. Remember those pesky things?
    Had the nuclear option been employed, it would have had no effect whatsoever on funding for the troops at any point in time. The only thing the nuclear option affected in any way shape or form was seating judges on the federal bench. I don’t know how you were able to drag the troops into that one.
    What McCain did was to ignore the Constitution completely and replace it with his own “reach across the aisle” BS.

    I don’t trust McCain – and I won’t vote for him.

    Lots of people are going to vote for Obama. Just don’t kid yourself that you are a Republican.

    I never said that I was going to vote for Obama. I never said that I was a Republican. No, that isn’t entirely true – I was a Republican.

    I am a Reagan Conservative and a former member of the USAF and in good conscience I can not vote for Juan McCain.

  59. #357076
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 7:53 pm, Irish Rose said:

    Still no answer from Michelle.

    Figures.

  60. #357081
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 8:02 pm, dakine said:

    IR, good stuff. You’re not going to get a response from MM…she jumped the shark quite a while ago.

  61. #357084
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 pm, Bill Grant said:

    The NRA and other Conservative groups, that’s who it has affected. It even affects Rush Limbaugh.

    They all seem to still be in business.

    “It changed the US Constitution from requiring 51 votes (a simple majority) to requiring 61 votes (a super-majority) and it did that without the usual formality of a Constitutional Amendment.”

    The only thing it did was to prevent cloture to end debate. Even that is temporary, a trudition and not a formal rules change. This was done in recognition of the fact that the congress may not always be in Republican hands and preserving the filibuster might be in our best internists to preserve the republic from being in subject to the “tyranny of the majority”. The thought of defacing the constitution with every procedural rules change (or preservation) of the Senate is ridicules. The Constitution would look like the Manhattan phone book.

    “. The only thing the nuclear option affected in any way shape or form was seating judges on the federal bench. “

    The nuclear option was to have a motion of cloture to end a filibuster. Republicans have used the filibuster both threatened and actual 17 times in the last 18 months since the democrats took control of congress.

    “I never said that I was going to vote for Obama.”

    Pretty much, That os what not voting for McCain essentially means.

    “I am a Reagan Conservative and a former member of the USAF and in good conscience I can not vote for Juan McCain.”

    I am a Regan conservative and former member of officer in the USN. I would remind you that Regan’s compromises would undoubtedly get him called a “traitor” and a “RINO” by the same people who having at McCain now. I will also remind you that Reagan’s real live 100% AMNESTY bill puts the now repudiated one put forward by Juan John McCain to shame.

    As a “Reagan conservative” and, most importantly as an American I shudder to think of the damage that will be done to the United States by an Obama presidency.

  62. #357099
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 8:51 pm, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant #61

    The NRA and other Conservative groups, that’s who it has affected. It even affects Rush Limbaugh.

    They all seem to still be in business.

    I never said that it put them out of business. Do you even know what McCain-Feingold was about?

    It changed the US Constitution from requiring 51 votes (a simple majority) to requiring 61 votes (a super-majority) and it did that without the usual formality of a Constitutional Amendment.

    The only thing it did was to prevent cloture to end debate. Even that is temporary, a trudition and not a formal rules change. This was done in recognition of the fact that the congress may not always be in Republican hands and preserving the filibuster might be in our best internists to preserve the republic from being in subject to the “tyranny of the majority”. The thought of defacing the constitution with every procedural rules change (or preservation) of the Senate is ridicules. The Constitution would look like the Manhattan phone book.

    Have you actually read the Constitution? Apparently not.

    The only thing the nuclear option affected in any way shape or form was seating judges on the federal bench.

    The nuclear option was to have a motion of cloture to end a filibuster. Republicans have used the filibuster both threatened and actual 17 times in the last 18 months since the democrats took control of congress.

    I’m still trying to find where it says that you can filibuster a judicial appointment in the US Constitution.

    I never said that I was going to vote for Obama.

    Pretty much, That os what not voting for McCain essentially means.

    No it doesn’t. McCain has already demonstrated that he doesn’t want my vote.

    Read what you want to read, see what you want to see. Drink the cool-aid.

    I am a Reagan Conservative and a former member of the USAF and in good conscience I can not vote for Juan McCain.

    I am a Regan conservative and former member of officer in the USN. I would remind you that Regan’s compromises would undoubtedly get him called a “traitor” and a “RINO” by the same people who having at McCain now.

    No they wouldn’t because I am those same people.

    I will also remind you that Reagan’s real live 100% AMNESTY bill puts the now repudiated one put forward by Juan John McCain to shame.

    I will remind you – and I shouldn’t have to if you are a Reagan Conservative like you say you are – that President Reagan himself repudiated his amnesty for illegals as one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency.

    As a “Reagan conservative” and, most importantly as an American I shudder to think of the damage that will be done to the United States by an Obama presidency.

    According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote. That’s why he never “reaches across the aisle” to Reagan Conservatives like me.

  63. #357137
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm, Irish Rose said:

    According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote. That’s why he never “reaches across the aisle” to Reagan Conservatives like me.

    He doesn’t pander to you and give you special interest status… so what?

    Don’t you think that there are more important issues at stake here than your pride?

    And please don’t post any BS about “teaching people a lesson”, “real” conservatism or “restoring/preserving the party”. Enough of it!

    If Obama the Marxist wins the White House because of voter apathy and the stubborn pride of evangelical Christians, the damage to this nation is going to be so severe, so far-reaching, and so long term that we will never… ever… recover.

    And if you honestly think that this election is not that critical – if you think that we can survive 4-8 years of an Obama presidency with absolute NO checks and balances, a Dem majority on the Hill, a liberal Supreme Court with lifetime appointments, and come out of it smelling like a rose in 2012 – then you’re either being deliberately naive, or utterly irresponsible.

    I’d like to apologize for going off topic with this thread, but I’ve really reached the threshhold of my patience with the mixed messages that our hostess is sending and it’s time to get it out in the open. Out of courtesy I waited until the thread had already run its’ course with Michelles’ visitors before turning the conversation back to the regulars.

    I’m still waiting for an answer from Ms. Malkin, and I’m not going to stop asking her these questions until I get one.

    I have a son in the military, and she does not. As a military parent, I have personally experienced the anti-military animus of people in my own community and it’s been extremely – extremely – painful. I have more at stake with this election than Ms. Malkin does, far more… so I’m not going to back down on this one.

    Michelle is a professional journalist with an international readership, and she is responsible for every single word that she writes. The irresponsible games that she is playing are going to affect my family in a very direct and very unpleasant way, and it makes me mad as *.

    If she doesn’t provide a satisfactory answer to me and others from military families who are asking her this very same question day after day, I will not and CANNOT in good conscience continue to give her my support on any level.

    Still waiting.

  64. #357147
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 10:48 pm, Irish Rose said:

    On June 22nd, 2008 at 8:51 pm, JHSII said:

    …It even affects Rush Limbaugh.

    Well heck, we can’t have THAT now can we JHSII?

    Newsflash: Rush is not Gods’ right-hand man, and like Michelle he’s doing an awful lot of damage that may not be reversible.

    Someone needs to knock him upside the head with a cluebat, in my humble conservative opinion.

  65. #357150
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 pm, JHSII said:

    Irish Rose #63

    He doesn’t pander to you and give you special interest status… so what?

    I’m not asking him to pander to me – I am asking him to uphold the Constitution. Why is that too much to ask from someone who wants to become President of the USA?
    And my “special interest” is the US Constitution. I guess you’re ready to chuck that little document, huh?

    Don’t you think that there are more important issues at stake here than your pride?

    This isn’t about my pride. This is about someone who wants to become President of the USA that also happens to ignore whatever parts of the US Constitution that he feels like ignoring. Don’t know where you got that this is anything about me.

    And please don’t post any BS about “teaching people a lesson”, “real” conservatism or “restoring/preserving the party”. Enough of it!

    Are you going to stop too?

    I’m still waiting for an answer from Ms. Malkin, and I’m not going to stop asking her these questions until I get one.

    So, now you’re going to harass our gracious hostess endlessly. If there is anyone driving people out of the Republican party and away from Juan McCain it is people like you. Good job!!

    I have a son in the military, and she does not.

    That has nothing to do with the situation. Don’t even try to play “holier-than-thou”.

    Michelle is a professional journalist with an international readership, and she is responsible for every single word that she writes. The irresponsible games that she is playing are going to affect my family in a very direct and very unpleasant way, and it makes me mad as *.

    The only one who has been irresponsible here has been you, especially with your threat to harass Michelle until she gives you the answer you want to hear.

    If she doesn’t provide a satisfactory answer to me and others from military families who are asking her this very same question day after day, I will not and CANNOT in good conscience continue to give her my support on any level.

    When did you ever give her any support on any level? Sheesh.
    Michelle Malkin is NOT answerable to you. You don’t want to support her – unsubscribe from the site.

  66. #357157
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 pm, Irish Rose said:

    So, now you’re going to harass our gracious hostess endlessly. If there is anyone driving people out of the Republican party and away from Juan McCain it is people like you. Good job!!

    Bullsh*t.

    In your world Ms. Malkin is “our gracious hostess”.

    In my world Ms. Malkin is a professional journalist who is mature enough to withstand some legitimate criticism, a simple request for transparency, and a direct question from a longtime reader.

    If she’s not capable of doing that – if she’s going to hide behind her attack-dog readers and display the same silent refusal to accept responsiblity for her words and actions that she criticizes people on CNN, NBC and the BBS for – then she loses all credibility with me.

    I have a son in the military, and she does not.

    That has nothing to do with the situation. Don’t even try to play “holier-than-thou”.

    On the contrary… it has EVERYTHING to do with it.

  67. #357162
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm, emjem24 said:

    IR:

    Thank you for your posts. I hope your son is doing well and is safe. My husband just recently returned from overseas so I feel I can breathe a sigh of relief at least for now.

    I agree with you for the most part about those who cannot vote for McCain under any circumstances. I have my problems with both McCain and Obummer and it truly hurts that the MTV candidate is the one that is beguiling the youth with a sense of wonderment that just won’t last. He’s an incompetent bafoon.

    McCain has really done himself no favors. He’s made his reputation on being a “maverick” and now he’ll have to live with it. He’ll have to take public financing and be outspent and outgamed by Obummer. It may (or may not be) a lopsided campaign… it certainly won’t be fair and if McCain doesn’t step it up and address the underlying hypocrocrisy, inaccuracies, and untruths of Obummer’s campaign, he won’t win. McCain (and even the Republican brand) won’t give freebies that aren’t free like Dems and the American people hate them for it.

    What is even more disgusting is how Americans aren’t interested in finishing the job in Iraq or even supporting the military in general. Americans don’t truly realize that branches like the Air Force need funding to recapitalize their infrastructure. They think (if their thought process even goes that far) that flying a B-52 for over 30 years is the norm. Planes need to be retired just like people.

    I just don’t buy what Obummer is selling. He, like many Americans, talks a good game about the military, but in the end his statements are empty. He, like all other Dem politicians, is interested in bribing voters with freebies so that he can refashion America into some European socialist utopia. If Obummer can’t tax America into complete Socialism, or determines that doing nothing (like with the Energy issue) will force Americans to depend more on government when they lose their jobs because they can no longer afford the gas that fuels their rides to work, he’ll take from the military budget… claiming it’s America’s “turn.”

    I understand why many Conservatives refuse to vote for McCain. McCain showed his hand early with his willingness to compromise so much with Dems that it’s disgusting in its cravenness. I do not accept that, but it’s McCain’s view that this is the only way to accomplish anything anymore in Washington which is sad to say the least.

    You like me know what we have to do. McCain isn’t an appealing candidate but he will be the person who will make those tough decisions about the military. What tough decisions has Obummer ever had to make? What brand of cigarrettes to smoke? When to leave his church? When to throw his grandmother under the bus?

    It’s hard for not only the military, but military spouses and families to be in the middle between those youth and liberals willing to reshape America and include her in the One World Order, and the conservatives who feel betrayed by McCain on things like Shamnesty and McCain Feingold. McCain needs to come clean and be honest with conservatives which he hasn’t. His whole campaign is geared toward independents and moderates of both parties. It’s depressing for me to acknowledge this but there it is.

    I too am sorry for going off topic. :sad:

  68. #357163
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:16 pm, JHSII said:

    Irish Rose #66

    Bullsh*t.

    In your world Ms. Malkin is “our gracious hostess”.

    Any credibility you had is now gone. Don’t start digging chasm.

    In my world Ms. Malkin is a professional journalist who is mature enough to withstand some legitimate criticism, a simple request for transparency, and a direct question from a longtime reader.

    The trouble is that you’re not giving her any “legitimate” criticism – and you’ve promised to harass her until you get the answer you want to hear. She’s also bee transparent – unless you only see what you want to see.

    If she’s not capable of doing that – if she’s going to hide behind her attack-dog readers and display the same silent refusal to accept responsiblity for her words and actions that she criticizes people on CNN, NBC and the BBS for – then she loses all credibility with me.

    Now you have a credibility chasm. I warned you, but it was too late.

    BTW, Michelle Malkin isn’t hiding. She doesn’t need to hide from the likes of you.


    I have a son in the military, and she does not.

    That has nothing to do with the situation. Don’t even try to play “holier-than-thou”.

    On the contrary… it has EVERYTHING to do with it.

    Wrong again. You’ve just passed the threshold to TROLL.

  69. #357170
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:38 pm, emjem24 said:

    JHSII:

    I think you’re wrong about IR. If you feel that way about her, then perhaps you will include the likes of me and Terrig (both military spouses) in your troll categorization.

    Have you not thought, sometimes, that Ms. Malkin has taken cheap shots at McCain? She is better than that. McCain deserves the criticism (he is running for POTUS) but sometimes the conversation about his candidacy degenerates into a free for all.

    I understand your inability to vote for McCain. There will be others like you I fear unless McCain gets it together. However, let’s be frank. This election won’t be decided by Conservatives, it will be decided by Independents. Is it smarter to gear one’s campaign toward Conservatives or those who aren’t aligned with either party?

    Again, I think you really misunderstand IR. Do you know what it’s like to actually be a military spouse? I’m not trying to be “holier-than-thou” like you accuse IR of being. Do you understand what it’s like to see your own fellow Americans undercut and undermine your husband’s mission? Do you know what it’s like to be “harassed” by anti-military people in your own family? Do you know what it’s like to be discriminated against because you’re a military spouse or are judged as “transient?”

    Believe me, you don’t. I’ve lived in very Conservative places like Colorado Springs where those I felt I aligned with politically thought nothing of undercutting me professionally because of who I happened to be married to. This election is about many things… and one of them IR just identified. Military families face an anxious time right now… whoever becomes the new CIC will have power over their lives.

    If you think that IR is harassing Ms. Malkin then you need to take a look again. Take a look at some of Ms. Malkin’s “fan mail.” Those gems are quite an example of who makes threats and who doesn’t. IR wants an explanation why Ms. Malkin has not offered up exactly her “feelings” toward McCain during this election cycle.

    Believe me, I’ve gotten the gist from both Ms. Malkin and many Conservatives of their feelings for McCain. I myself don’t like him much. However, if he is the only person standing between victory and defeat for the military, he will be the person I vote for.

    Sorry again for being OT. :sad:

  70. #357172
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:46 pm, Irish Rose said:

    And you’re now on “ignore”.

  71. #357177
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm, Irish Rose said:

    This election is about many things… and one of them IR just identified. Military families face an anxious time right now… whoever becomes the new CIC will have power over their lives.

    Spot on.

  72. #357178
    On June 22nd, 2008 at 11:58 pm, Bill Grant said:

    “I never said that it put them out of business. Do you even know what McCain-Feingold was about?”"

    Yes, I do. You state that it has injured poor Rush, Do you even know what it is about?

    “I’m still trying to find where it says that you can filibuster a judicial appointment in the US Constitution.”

    Article I, Sec. V, Clause II. According to The Constitution “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings.” The filibuster has been around since reconstruction and the fact that it has been preserved is, at the point, a good for the republicans.

    “No it doesn’t. McCain has already demonstrated that he doesn’t want my vote.”

    Sent you a letter did he? Interpretive dance perhaps? Mind waves?

    “Read what you want to read, see what you want to see. Drink the cool-aid.”

    Psychological projection.

    “No they wouldn’t because I am those same people.”

    Regan flipfloped on taxes, abortion, and Amnesty for illegal aliens. When he was governor of California he was much more to the left of what he became as president.

    “that President Reagan himself repudiated his amnesty for illegals as one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency.”

    Must of missed that part. I do know that McCain has stated that he would go for enforcement first. After that it will be up to the American people to insist on a strong bill. Do you think you are going to get that from Obama?

    “According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote.”

    So where did he say that?

    “That’s why he never “reaches across the aisle” to Reagan Conservatives like me.

    Maybe he is of the opinion that anyone who would call themselves a “Reagan Conservative” wouldn’t want to elect an islamist appeasing socialist like Obama. I donno, maybe he thinks that “conservatives” don’t need so much hand holding.

  73. #357179
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:03 am, JHSII said:

    emjem #69

    JHSII:

    I think you’re wrong about IR. If you feel that way about her, then perhaps you will include the likes of me and Terrig (both military spouses) in your troll categorization.

    Are you and Terrig both going to harass Michelle until you get the answers you want to hear? Are you going to say that Michelle can’t speak about the war (or any war or any subject for that matter) because she doesn’t have a child directly involved?

    Again, I think you really misunderstand IR. Do you know what it’s like to actually be a military spouse? I’m not trying to be “holier-than-thou” like you accuse IR of being. Do you understand what it’s like to see your own fellow Americans undercut and undermine your husband’s mission? Do you know what it’s like to be “harassed” by anti-military people in your own family? Do you know what it’s like to be discriminated against because you’re a military spouse or are judged as “transient?”

    Hey, guess what – I was actually in the military. AFSC 45253C

    Believe me, you don’t. I’ve lived in very Conservative places like Colorado Springs where those I felt I aligned with politically thought nothing of undercutting me professionally because of who I happened to be married to. This election is about many things… and one of them IR just identified. Military families face an anxious time right now… whoever becomes the new CIC will have power over their lives.

    Don’t even try to tell me what you think I don’t know. Maybe you should ask what I know before you make some stupid comment like you just made.

    Your credibility is also taking a hit. Don’t make it any worse.

  74. #357180
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:05 am, JHSII said:

    Irist Rose #70

    And you’re now on “ignore”.

    I think Michelle put you there a while back.

    Yawn.

  75. #357181
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:05 am, Bill Grant said:

    Thanks to your husband emjem24 and your son Irish Rose.

    Emjem24, My humble opinion is Mac is the best we are going to get, and I think he is better then he has gotten credit for.

  76. #357183
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 am, Irish Rose said:

    Emjem, who else do we have here at MM besides Terrig, you, and I who are either military spouses or military parents?

  77. #357186
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:20 am, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant #72

    I never said that it put them out of business. Do you even know what McCain-Feingold was about?

    Yes, I do. You state that it has injured poor Rush, Do you even know what it is about?

    That’s not what I stated. Why don’t you respond to what I actually did state?
    And, I have no reason to believe that you know what McCain-Feingold was about since you can’t even get my comment right and it is still right there in front of you now.

    I’m still trying to find where it says that you can filibuster a judicial appointment in the US Constitution.

    Article I, Sec. V, Clause II. According to The Constitution “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings.” The filibuster has been around since reconstruction and the fact that it has been preserved is, at the point, a good for the republicans.

    Again, you read what you want to read, and see what you want to see – regardless of what is actually there, or not there.

    No it doesn’t. McCain has already demonstrated that he doesn’t want my vote.

    Sent you a letter did he? Interpretive dance perhaps? Mind waves?

    Have you actually tried reading what I posted rather then just typing up whatever insults come to mind first?

    Read what you want to read, see what you want to see. Drink the cool-aid.

    Psychological projection.

    Not by me. I’m correctly identifying your actions.

    No they wouldn’t because I am those same people.

    Regan flipfloped on taxes, abortion, and Amnesty for illegal aliens. When he was governor of California he was much more to the left of what he became as president.

    Another example of you seeing what you want to see. You have a trend.

    that President Reagan himself repudiated his amnesty for illegals as one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency.

    Must of missed that part. I do know that McCain has stated that he would go for enforcement first. After that it will be up to the American people to insist on a strong bill. Do you think you are going to get that from Obama?

    You seem to have missed a lot of things.

    According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote.

    So where did he say that?

    So where did I say that he said that?
    It might be helpful if you responded to what was actually in my post rather than twisting it into something else and then expecting me to respond to that.

    That’s why he never “reaches across the aisle” to Reagan Conservatives like me.

    Maybe he is of the opinion that anyone who would call themselves a “Reagan Conservative” wouldn’t want to elect an islamist appeasing socialist like Obama. I donno, maybe he thinks that “conservatives” don’t need so much hand holding.

    I never said that I wanted to elect Obama. I don’t need my “hand held” either, especially by the likes of you.

  78. #357191
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:41 am, Irish Rose said:

    #73 JHSII

    Are you going to say that Michelle can’t speak about the war (or any war or any subject for that matter) because she doesn’t have a child directly involved?

    #77 JHSII

    It might be helpful if you responded to what was actually in my post rather than twisting it into something else and then expecting me to respond to that.

    Again, you read what you want to read, and see what you want to see – regardless of what is actually there, or not there.

    Take your own advice.

  79. #357200
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 am, Bill Grant said:

    -You state that it has injured poor Rush,

    “That’s not what I stated.”

    And you meant what by:

    “…It even affects Rush Limbaugh.”

    Good things?

    Back peddle much?

    “”Again, you read what you want to read, and see what you want to see – regardless of what is actually there, or not there.”

    Hey, You asked I answered. (After first asking me if I had ever read the document) Bottom line is that it did not; “change the US Constitution… without the usual formality of a Constitutional Amendment” which is what you asserted that he had done.

    Seems you don’t want to hear it., yet you accuse me of seeing what I want to see.

    “Have you actually tried reading what I posted rather then just typing up whatever insults come to mind first?”

    Yes, that was a response to “McCain has already demonstrated that he doesn’t want my vote.” See, read it, a couple of times now…Not getting better with the repetition…

    “Another example of you seeing what you want to see. You have a trend.”

    So you have a rebuttal to that then, some proof of what I said being incorrect somehow? No?

    “You seem to have missed a lot of things.”

    Again, not a rebuttal. Since that might indicate that you think that I am incorrect somehow you might want to share with me where I have gone wrong.

    “According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote.”

    So where did he say that?

    So where did I say that he said that?”

    LOL, You make an assertion: “According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote.” Then you are asked how you determined this little nugget of information and you say that you never stated it in the first place. … ‘K…

    “I never said that I wanted to elect Obama.”

    Whelp, You have a choice of 2 viable candidates, one of which is ahead in the polls. In saying that you are not going to vote for McCain you are effectively saying you are going to help Obama get elected. Not very “Reagan Conservative” of you there JHSII…

    “I don’t need my “hand held” either, especially by the likes of you.”

    There goes plan A.

  80. #357261
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 6:42 am, JHSII said:

    Irish Rose #78

    Take your own advice.

    I thought you had me on ignore.

    Hypocrit.

  81. #357276
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 7:09 am, JHSII said:

    Bill grant #79

    You state that it has injured poor Rush,

    That’s not what I stated.

    And you meant what by:

    It even affects Rush Limbaugh.

    Good things?

    Back peddle much?

    I didn’t back peddle at all. Injured and affected are not the same thing. Why don’t you respond to what I actually posted for a change?

    Again, you read what you want to read, and see what you want to see – regardless of what is actually there, or not there.

    Hey, You asked I answered. (After first asking me if I had ever read the document) Bottom line is that it did not; “change the US Constitution… without the usual formality of a Constitutional Amendment” which is what you asserted that he had done.

    Seems you don’t want to hear it., yet you accuse me of seeing what I want to see.

    See above. You prove me right again.

    Have you actually tried reading what I posted rather then just typing up whatever insults come to mind first?

    Yes, that was a response to “McCain has already demonstrated that he doesn’t want my vote.” See, read it, a couple of times now…Not getting better with the repetition…

    How does your trolling get better with repetition? And yes, you’ve crossed that line. I’ll remember that in the future.

    Another example of you seeing what you want to see. You have a trend.

    So you have a rebuttal to that then, some proof of what I said being incorrect somehow? No?

    I did rebut what you posted, but you chose not to read what was actually there. SOP.

    You seem to have missed a lot of things.

    Again, not a rebuttal. Since that might indicate that you think that I am incorrect somehow you might want to share with me where I have gone wrong.

    It actually is a rebuttal, but you’ve already proven that you don’t want to read what is actually posted.

    According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote.

    So where did he say that?

    Why don’t you go back and read what I actually posted for once. It sure would make a nice change.

    So where did I say that he said that?

    LOL, You make an assertion: “According to McCain, he doesn’t want or need my vote.” Then you are asked how you determined this little nugget of information and you say that you never stated it in the first place. … ‘K…

    And this coming from the guy who doesn’t know the difference between “injured” and “affected”.

    I never said that I wanted to elect Obama.

    Whelp, You have a choice of 2 viable candidates, one of which is ahead in the polls. In saying that you are not going to vote for McCain you are effectively saying you are going to help Obama get elected. Not very “Reagan Conservative” of you there JHSII…

    First, I’m not a whelp, trollboy. Just because I am not going to vote for your candidate doesn’t mean that I’m going to help Obama get elected.
    All I’m effectively saying – and I do mean ALL – is that Juan McCain has demonstrated that he doesn’t want my help, or my vote. He doesn’t want it, he’s not going to get it. It’s that simple. My not voting for Obama doesn’t help Obama either. My not supporting Obama doesn’t help Obama. And it certainly doesn’t help Michelle Obama’s children.

    I notice how you put “Reagan Conservative” in quotes. That tells me a lot about you – and none of it good.

    I don’t need my “hand held” either, especially by the likes of you.

    There goes plan A.

    Twisting what I posted and expecting me to respond to your twisted version; ignoring what I actually posted; and insulting me – those were “Plan A” to get me to vote for McCain? I can now see why McCain is in so much trouble. He certainly doesn’t need any more help from you.

  82. #357296
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 8:09 am, Bill Grant said:

    “I didn’t back peddle at all. Injured and affected are not the same thing.

    Well, since “affected” could mean anything I guess you didn’t have a point.

    “See above. You prove me right again.”

    So either you are being deliberately obtuse or you are embarrassed that you were wrong about the constitution. Either way, this has gotten boring.

    “How does your trolling get better with repetition?”

    It ages about as well as you making non points and then backing away from them because you can’t defend what you were attempting to say.

    “And yes, you’ve crossed that line. I’ll remember that in the future.”

    You do that.

    “I did rebut what you posted,”

    No, you see if you had done that you would have found some kind of flaw in what I was saying instead of saying that you had not said anything. Since you can’t do that you are reduced to plan B.

    “It actually is a rebuttal,”

    Not a smart one.

    “And this coming from the guy who doesn’t know the difference between “injured” and “affected”.”

    Weasel out much?

    “First, I’m not a whelp, trollboy.”

    LOL, you are wrong again.

    “Just because I am not going to vote for your candidate doesn’t mean that I’m going to help Obama get elected.”

    Again, you have a choice of 2 viable candidates, whelp. Action or inaction will help or hurt the one who is behind. That is, of course your choice. I just think it is amusing that you consider yourself a “Reagan Conservative” (notice the quotes, whelp) when your actions effectively help a Johnson democrat.

    “is that Juan McCain has demonstrated that he doesn’t want my help, or my vote”

    Just how he did that is another question that you couldn’t answer. It is spelled “John” by the way. But you were trying to be funny by repeating something someone else said, eh?

    “And it certainly doesn’t help Michelle Obama’s children.”

    You do like to post things that don’t have any significance, don’t you?

    “I notice how you put “Reagan Conservative” in quotes. That tells me a lot about you – and none of it good.”

    You see, whelp, I was quoting you. That’s why I put it in quotes. But of course that’s just another example of you seeing what you want to see.

  83. #357300
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 8:12 am, Irish Rose said:

    Oh, brother.

    Still waiting for a response from Michelle.

    I will keep asking. It’s not harassement, it’s a simple request for transparency.

    The fact that one of her attack dogs is getting bent out of shape that I would ask such a thing, is a pretty clear indication that some people here have absolutely no sense of political responsibility during a time of war.

    The messages that Ms. Malkin sends about supporting the troops on some threads – and her irrational, Obama-empowering, anti-McCain animus on other threads – are completely contradictory. And I’d like an honest answer to the question “why?”.

    These are tough times for military families, and the tone here at MM is making those times even tougher.

    What person in their right mind would even CONSIDER putting a radical Marxist in the position of CIC?

    In these critical days we need a POTUS who isn’t committed to dumbing down, defunding, and dismantling our military and surrendering the United States of America to Arabs and radical Islamic terrorists.

    Our two choices are imperfect McCain, and Marxist Obama. Its’ an absolute no-brainer, and I have no idea why so many here – our hostess included – are having such a hard time understanding it.

  84. #357305
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 8:24 am, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant trolled #82

    So either you are being deliberately obtuse or you are embarrassed that you were wrong about the constitution. Either way, this has gotten boring.

    I see you still don’t bother to read what I posted, then you expect me to respond to whatever nonsense it is that you can twist my post into. All your long diatribe against me does is point out that you are a troll who can’t think for yourself.

    When you’re capable of thinking for yourself – and not trolling – you’re welcome to return to the conversation. Until then I’m going to treat you as the troll you are proving to be.

    BTW, when you respond to something I actually posted, I’ll be happy to answer.

  85. #357311
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 8:45 am, Irish Rose said:

    On June 23rd, 2008 at 8:24 am, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant trolled #82

    When you’re capable of thinking for yourself – and not trolling – you’re welcome to return to the conversation.

    He doesn’t need your permission for anything, idjit. Just who do you think you are?

    Do you honestly think that any of us here give a fiddlers * regarding your opinion of our credibility, JSH? We are parents and spouses of active duty military personnel. We don’t need your permission or approval to participate on these forums, and our credibility is certainly NOT defined by someone like you.

    Our nation is at war, and our military personnel and their families bear the burden of that war on their shoulders every single day. The burden goes with us wherever we go and it colors everything that we think, say and do. If you are truly the military “veteran” you claim to be, then that is something that you would be able to understand.

    So I’ll say to you very plainly that any military “veteran” (notice the quotes) who would verbally attack the wife and the mother of active duty military personnel the way that you have done here on this thread, is the one who is seriously lacking in the credibility department.

    Here’s a suggestion for you, JHS.
    Grow the h*ll up.

  86. #357316
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 9:02 am, JHSII said:

    Irish Rose trolled #85

    He doesn’t need your permission for anything, idjit. Just who do you think you are?

    Why don’t you bother reading what I actually posted before attacking me?

    Do you honestly think that any of us here give a fiddlers * regarding your opinion of our credibility, JSH?

    It’s not opinion. And no, I don’t think trolls like you care about what anyone else thinks, or your credibility – or lack thereof.

    We are parents and spouses of active duty military personnel.

    Given your credibility chasm, I have no reason to believe that you even know someone who was/is in the military.

    We don’t need your permission or approval to participate on these forums, and our credibility is certainly NOT defined by someone like you.

    I never said that you needed my permission or approval to participate on these forums. Why don’t you try responding to what I actually said?

    Our nation is at war, and our military personnel and their families bear the burden of that war on their shoulders every single day. The burden goes with us wherever we go and it colors everything that we think, say and do. If you are truly the military “veteran” you claim to be, then that is something that you would be able to understand.

    I am a veteran, and I’m not the one who has a credibility chasm.

    BTW, didn’t you say you were going to ignore me?

    So I’ll say to you very plainly that any military “veteran” (notice the quotes) who would verbally attack the wife and the mother of active duty military personnel the way that you have done here on this thread, is the one who is seriously lacking in the credibility department.

    I haven’t verbally attacked anyone, and if you actually read what I posted then you would know that. In fact, you have attacked me, and continue to attack me.

    Here’s a suggestion for you, JHS.
    Grow the h*ll up.

    I’m not the one acting like a 2 year old.
    Take your own suggestion.

    Just like I said to Bill: When you’re capable of thinking for yourself – and not trolling – you’re welcome to return to the conversation. It goes for you too.

  87. #357324
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 9:20 am, Irish Rose said:

    I’m not the one acting like a 2 year old.

    I’m afraid that you are.

    If you are truly a veteran, JSH, then I’d like to personally thank you for leaving the service.

    We need to have men in this fight, men who are capable of identifying the enemy and understanding the critical nature of the conflict.

    Not petulant little boys who refuse to grow up and forget their lessons about honor, duty and respect the second that they re-enter the civilian world.

  88. #357328
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 9:31 am, JHSII said:

    Irish Rose trolled:

    I’m not the one acting like a 2 year old.

    I’m afraid that you are.

    No, but I can see how you would have a hard time with that.

    If you are truly a veteran, JSH, then I’d like to personally thank you for leaving the service.

    Another personal attack. You prove me right with every post you make.

    We need to have men in this fight, men who are capable of identifying the enemy and understanding the critical nature of the conflict.

    That’s me. I’ll take that as a compliment.

    Not petulant little boys who refuse to grow up and forget their lessons about honor, duty and respect the second that they re-enter the civilian world.

    And you follow it up with another attack, proving that you don’t have the slightest clue what you’re talking about.

    Have you had these problems all your life, or have they just started recently?

  89. #357354
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 10:01 am, Bill Grant said:

    “I see you still don’t bother to read what I posted,”

    Seeing as I responded to it line by line it is obvious to all that I did. I see you are still regurgitating the same non response that is obviously false.

    “then you expect me to respond to whatever nonsense it is that you can twist my post into.”

    Not at this point, I expect you to evade and generate non-responses that signify nothing. I see that you haven’t let me down.

    “All your long diatribe against me does is point out that you are a troll who can’t think for yourself.”

    The beauty of this is that it is all is up there for everyone to see. You got caught out and then you retreated. Fine.

    “When you’re capable of thinking for yourself – and not trolling – you’re welcome to return to the conversation.”

    That is quite generous of you whelp, the thing is, this isn’t a conversation. A conversation is where a point is made and either agreed upon or refuted. You write something, run away from it and passive aggressively post lame retorts because you can’t defend what you wrote. So no, not a conversation, it is me playing whack-a-mole. Did I mention that it’s boring?

    “BTW, when you respond to something I actually posted, I’ll be happy to answer.”

    I just did whelp. However, at this point I don’t care if you answer.

    “I am a veteran, and I’m not the one who has a credibility chasm.”

    Gee, that’s the 3rd time you have mentioned it… Some of us don’t need to constantly trade on our service to get some “credibility”.

    “Why don’t you bother reading what I actually posted before attacking me?”

    Poor whelp, he got “attacked”!

    She did read what you posted obviously, she even quoted it. Tilt your head up a bit and look for yourself. See?

  90. #357356
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 10:04 am, JHSII said:

    I see Bill Grant is still trolling (#89).

    I’ll respond when Bill actually reads what I post and can respond to my posts without the usual spin, lies, and personal attacks.

  91. #357366
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 10:14 am, Bill Grant said:

    “I’ll respond when Bill actually reads what I post and can respond to my posts without the usual spin, lies, and personal attacks.”

    Don’t bother; you can return to the conversation when you man up and stand by your assertions and stop whining that everyone is personally attacking you.

  92. #357368
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 10:19 am, JHSII said:

    Thanks for another line of attacks and lies, Bill.

    The more you post, the more you prove that you aren’t interested in a conversation – but you sure can project.

  93. #357372
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 am, Bill Grant said:

    “Thanks for another line of attacks and lies, Bill.”

    And the lie is where? Gee, whelp, didn’t you even read what I wrote?

    “The more you post, the more you prove that you aren’t interested in a conversation”

    Didn’t you read the “this isn’t a conversation” part of the presentation? Why don’t you read what I wrote before you respond to it?

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