AZ protesters attempt to shut down Sheriff Joe Arpaio
One of the complaints I hear about Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is that he “works the media”.
You’re damn right he does, and it’s a good thing, too. His pro-illegal immigration opponents certainly work the media, and if Arpaio didn’t deploy some countermeasures he would be out of a job. Or if these guys have their way, crippled and unable to do his job effectively:
Critics of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio staged a raucous show Thursday in hopes of pressuring the Board of Supervisors to monitor more closely his enforcement of immigration laws and the amount of public money spent on lawsuits that involve his office,
…yeah, lawsuits that these protesters or their activist friends probably filed themselves…
The protesters, hundreds strong, were unsuccessful in holding the five elected officials to any promises. The Supervisors unanimously approved a $2.4 billion budget, up slightly from this year, with cuts in nearly all departments and programs, and about 428 eliminated vacant positions and layoffs.
More from Sheriff Joe back here, and a grudging MSM admission of his success here.
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Got get ‘em Sherrif Arpaio! There’s you list Arizona, a litany of the weak and cowardly. The only one missing is Juan McCain.
Should read GO get ‘em!
Time for a run to Dunkin Donut for a coffee!
Good for you, Arpaio. We do need more law enforcement people like him. What all moonbats think is that when you lose overwhelmingly at the ballot box, you can overturn it by protesting and lawsuits. Sounds like some dictators I know, without the violence.
Now who would criticize someone for doing their job well and taking pride in their work?
Next thing you know, people will be suing someone for chopping down trees or serving hot coffee.
Sheriff Joe would certainly have my vote rather like Mills Lane in the old days.
A group of religious leaders on Monday called on elected officials in Arizona to move from what it described as a hateful tone in the debate about illegal immigration and to adopt a more compassionate approach.
The more than 20 pastors wrote a letter to the state’s top officials, urging them to consider immigration laws that preserve human dignity.
“We must uphold the law, but when laws are used to raid churches and church events and separate children from families, then it indicates that something is wrong with these laws,” said Gary Kinnaman, pastor-at-large of the 6,000-member Word of Grace church in Mesa.
The letter is noteworthy because many of the pastors who signed it come from largely White, conservative, evangelical Christian churches. It follows a letter from other mainstream Protestant and Jewish faiths condemning recent raids by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
If they break the law throw them in with the rest of Joe’s guests.
Could he be the next AG in a McCain administration? Maybe just the head of FBI or ICE…
Go Joe Go!
Typical government speak.. cuts in nearly all departments, but the budget is up from last year. Yeah Right!
I assume that just means every department got more money just not as much as they asked for.
Go Joe A… Best Sheriff in the US.
Every sheriff in this country could learn a lesson from Joe..
Go Joe!
I noticed in the article that:
I wonder who’s funding them.
I am not sure about that, not at all. But those churches, conservative, mainstream or other DO NOT speak for the People of Maricopa County. WE, the People of Maricopa County elect the Sheriff to enforce the laws AS written. Just how Conservative some of these Churches are I do not know. But their Pastors are have no more authority that any other citizen of Maricopa County.
This Country, this Sate and this County have laws that are not subject to emotional ‘feelings’; Churches and other institutions do not have extra legal authority and families get broken apart when someone in that family breaks the law. If these illegal aliens do not wish to be seperated from their children they should take them with them. Parent are to care for their children. These Pastors SHOULD know that. That is just another and Higher Law these Pastors seem to be ignoring.
I didn’t see in these articles where Sheriff Joe asked for – and received – donations to allow him to continue doing his job. Probably too embarrassing.
If every jail in the US gave prisoners pink undies and green baloney there would certainly be fewer guests of the system.
As to the illegals we should be closing the border and then we can deal with who is already here. Why is it our problem that “families get separated”? It happens all the time when criminals go to jail. BTW illegal aliens have broken the law!
Hello? McShamnasty? Oh, Juan? Anybody listening?
No buts.
Why don’t these reverends and pastors worry about the dignity of Mexican citizens in Mexico? Why is it with all the resources that Mexico has it can’t provide a first world economy? Why is there no responsiblity there? Is another nation responsible for the unemployed of another nation? Why doesn’t Mexico have its own social system such as welfare and social security and other benefits that other first world nations have? Where is the concern of “dignity” there?
I hate to break it to you but the laws are not used for anything other than classifying, identifying and prosecuting illegal behavior. The laws are used to catch criminals. As for any inconvenience to the criminals, they should have taken that into consideration before they willfully broke the law.
I have no more compassion for a Church that violates the law than I do for an individual. Are the criminals currently in our penal institutions for other crimes now bringing their families to jail with them? We are a nation of laws no matter what some people may wish to believe. There is now and always should be a punishment for people who willfully violate those laws … especially when it adversely affects other citizens and the nation as a whole.
Why do you think churches are above the law?!?!?
First, PROVE IT! (whenever I see a leftwinger use the word “largely”, I know there is major B.S., and replace it with “hardly any”.)
Second, a “pastor” does not speak for a “congregation”!
This is really a lame attempt at an argument. By their own admission then if a murderer were at church or has a family that they would be seperated from (by being in jail)and local law enforcement went in after them then that would indicate that there is something wrong with the law against murder.
I wonder if this “Pastor” ever looked at it from that point of view (though I doubt his blinders would have let him).
Since others from AZ have already said much of what needs to be said I’ll just restate one other thing …
NO!!! … the rest of you can not have my sheriff …
Find your own and then make sure you keep him/her in office against all the forces that will try to stop him/her from enforcing the law …
Any church found aiding and abeting a criminal should have it’s tax exempt status revoked and be required to pay back tax’s for the prior year.
Liberals simply will not reward success, only failure. And Sheriff Joe is no failure. They try their damndest to de-masculate everyone that shows a backbone. Libs are just plain gutless and don’t want anyone showing them up. The people here have your back Joe !
Sausage:
If you want to see the face of immigration hate, check out this photo. Note the clenched fist and proto-Nazi salute. Are you disgusted yet?
how can these so called pasters overlook the fact that THESE PEOPLE BROKE THE LAW, and others like them break the law every day? I’m sick of these religous nuts defending and standing up for law breakers. I thought they were for what’s right. I call them nuts because they have to be to condone the violation of our laws.
I wish every law enforcement officer in the nation was as vigilant as Sheriff Joe Arpaio. We’d be a much better nation if they were.
Yes I believe in the Good Lord, but I don’t feel sorry for law breakers and their families. If you don’t want to be separated from your families, stay in your own country as some one else commented. It’s just that simple. More power to you, Sheriff Joe!!!
People better hope that “every law enforcement officer in the nation was as vigilant as Sheriff Joe Arpaio”.
If they were the US would be overrun with criminals.
“nickle-bag joe” is just grand standing. He doesn’t care about crime or illegal immigrants – he just knows this is a way for him to get good press.
This man is a corrupt joke, and anyone who actually values liberty and the rule of law should not align themselves with the “toughest sherrif in the US”.
I know, I’ve been an AZ native for 52 years and seen this putrid example of a man since he was elected.
Don’t kid yourself, he would have fit right in with the Nazi’s and his natual constitution would make him a perfect commandant for an extermination camp.
MM readers who are lauding this guy – please convince him to come to your community, you’ll change your mind right qucik.
Aggressive policing of illegals is not worth having a corrupt, incompetant, viscious, stupid, and brutal animal in the office of county sherrif.
Be careful what you all wish for.
Scott W
Phx AZ
Sausage:
As an aside, if you’re going to cite an extended text passage link to or cite the source. Otherwise you are plagiarizing the author’s work.
Looking at the current choices for President, I often wonder, why in the name of all that is just and holy can we not have Sheriff Joe for Pres?
DesertLover can’t we at least borrow some of Sheriff Joe’s DNA so we can clone a couple of thousand Law Enforcement Officials with his rigid enforcement of the rule of law while making prison life uncomfortable for felons.
I have to agree that any church that fails to obey the laws of this nation by aiding and abetting known felons should forfeit their tax free status. Our founding fathers understood from histories lessons the evil done in the name of God when churches dabble in politics. As a Christian I understand churches should be established to provide fellowship while enforcing ones faith and contributing to the community through good works and charity. No where in the U.S. Constitution is it the role of the Federal Government to provide charity especially for those that break our laws by crossing our borders illegally or by over staying their visas.
One big knock the libtards have about Sheriff Joe is that he’s a media hound – that all he does he does for self promotion. This is hilarious as THEY control the media. They seem to think that by interviewing him , he’ll make an ass of himself. Fortunately, most of us out here understand. The guy is also a pisser, on top of being great at what he does…
These groups have been trying to bring him down for years.It doesn’t matter that the majority reelects him over and over.Who do they have to run against him?No one.BDS is incurable and it has spread past the POTUS office.Doing right is right and they can’t stand it.
Right on garyt, #15. Mexico needs to get off its ass and do something for it people.
These churches and the rest of the open border crowd need to stop selling out this country to LAW BREAKERS!
Go Joe! We need more like you.
I don’t hear much about other elected law enforcers who use Sheriff Joe’s model.
I wonder if there are any; working below the radar??? Hope so.
I respect Sheriff Joe. He knows the deal and he doesn’t let any of the political rif raf bother him or get in his way. The right man at the right time.
Well, one. His moniker has something to do with a meat product.
GOD help a law enforcement officer when he does his job (and does it well).
P.S. Pastors must be losing some of their tithe funds – that would be my guess over the protests. Yep, a Christian said it.
Sheriff Joe may be the only person that I have respect for. I wish him well. The pink and green are a wonderful idea – he makes me laugh when he is on TV. I too wish we could clone him. I too wish he was running for president, and not the 2 terrible choices we now have.
Joe isn’t much of a Sheriff but he is a good politician and he is right about his actions on immigration. The liberal mayors and police chiefs are going nuts with his ‘in your face’ approach, and it galls them that the general population is behind him and not their liberal feel good approach.
The other thing he has going for him is that he and McCain hate each others guts.
Otherwise, if you live in rural Maricopa county Arizona, don’t count on much help from Joe, he puts all his resources where the media is. That’s why you don’t hear much about the other sheriff’s around the country following his lead. Their thin resources are dedicated to rural law enforcement.
However when he is right, he’s right, like him or not, when it comes to this immigration issue. Whole sections of Phoenix, and the other metro areas have become the territory of gangs and drug dealers and the cops are getting gunned down in the streets, let alone the citizens. When I hear a story about a police officer or citizen getting shot and the chief won’t fight to get the city back, I am disgusted. So have at it Arpaio. Someone has to make a stand.
I see only one other sane (reasonably so anyone) post about Joe here, so I’ll give you some links to more information about him -
http://phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-08-12/news/paranoia-reigns/
or http://phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-11-29/news/enemies-list/
and http://phoenixnewtimes.com/2006-03-30/news/the-cost-of-cruelty/
There’s plenty mor of course at the Phoenix New Times.
But judging from the reader posts to this I wonder if there is any point to it.
I wouldn’t have thought that so many brown-shirts would be such fans of MM.
I did notice the mean looking “gentleman” next to her is wearing his red Arizona ACORN shirt. That tells me all I need to know. These people are anarchists.
Go Joe Go! Enforce the laws you are elected to enforce.
Did I really see the word CUTS (taxpayer $$$$)!?
WOW –
The lead protest female was wearing PINK–what does that mean?!!!
We need a Joe Arpaio here in LA!!!!!
Sheriff Joe is the last of the old-time lawmen and one of the few public figures left with a spine.
All the “religious leaders” advocating open borders and pandering to illegals can get screwed and take their religion someplace else.
My mom and I are big supporters of sheriff Joe. He does a lot of great things across the board, and doesn’t take any crap.
You’ve gotta love any public official who does his job these days…they are as rare as rocking horse doodoo. Why is it that people with their heads screwed on straight rarely rally in mass to support their heroes/heroines and causes? It’s always the lefties, liberals, nutcases, and idiots who make all the noise. Anyway, let the legend of Sheriff Joe grow. I for one would be happy to contribute to his operation, even though Arizona is not my home state. Go Joe!!
On June 21st, 2008 at 6:58 am, sausage said:
Wow, sausage, kinda throws out the whole “separation of church and state” philosophy.
I wonder if you would be using the pastors’ letter to defend your position if they replace the word “immigration” with the word “abortion”.
Ok, at the risk of getting “machine gunned” for it, I have to add my 2 cents, as a Christian. We, as believers, are to obey the laws. We are instructed by scripture to do so. The first 6 verses of chapter 13 of Paul’s letter to the Romans is very clear: ” 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor (From the NKJV).
Can’t make it planer than that. We are to be law-abiding citizens. Period. And not dis the enforcers of the laws. BTW, nonbelievers are not bound by His Word, only believers. No disrespect meant to non believers, whatsoever. It’s just what’s written. Believers simply have clear instructions to follow.
Ok, I’ve put on my KEVLAR. Fire when ready…
The best QUOTE from JOE, “I am only enforcing the law, if you don’t like the law change the law”. This is pathetic. As a citizen of AZ and more importantly MARICOPA COUNTY, the question is not why is SHERIFF JOE enforcing our recently passed EMPLOYER SANCTIONS LAW, but rather WHY is he the only one in the state enforcing this new law??? The people of AZ spoke through the BALLOT BOX last year, and typical of our elected officials WE THE PEOPLE are being kicked in the BUTT, and told this is not what YOU MEANT by the passing (by 70%) of your EMPLOYER SANCTIONS referendum. Heads up out there, the citizens of PHOENIX have started a recall drive against our MAYOR, PHIL GORDON. The local RAG mocked and made light when the petition drive started. Update: the DRIVE is moving along, better than expected, the RAG is not making light of it now.
I think Sausage, Rusty and all of our other liberal troll friends who whine about the “treatment” of illegals should take a bunch of htem home with them or better yet, buy the house next door and let them live there for free. You know, it’s all W’s fault anyway./sarc off on the last sentence-dead serious about the rest.
should be “them” not htem
I just got off the phone with a very dear mature friend in Phoenix who validates the effectiveness and desirability of having a law enforcement man like Joe around. Robscottw seemingly has a burr in his saddle. We are not brown shirts and can read the writing on the wall. Far too many law enforcement officers are kowtowed by liberal press & pressure groups. Joe tells them to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. Good on him.
robscottw – I lived in Arizona all my life until 6 years ago. Sheriff Joe ROCKS.
Uh, just who is our?
If they want to resolve the problems of expense, and fear, they need to get on board and insist that their Illegal Immigrant buddies/families/clients, go back to their home countries. Two problems resolved for them, and even more for the county supervisors.
See above comment. No illegals, no whiney lawsuits! Another problem resolved.
If it’s being done “quietly and with dignity,” how does she know what or what not the other counties supervisors are allowing?
As if we didn’t know they were Azlanistas already…”We will be back,” that’s what all the illegals used to say when they got deported. If this group of protestors still believe this, then I think Sheriff Joe needs to keep giving them the welcome they deserve.
They want to come here to work? Fine. They can “work off” their fines prior to deportation, by maintaining the State’s landscaping, repairing roads and other infrastructure, and building the border fencing, you know, the kind of jobs American’s don’t want to do….
Arpaio: Offers pouring in to offset funding loss of immigration enforcement effo
Date: Friday, May 23 @ 11:45:29 CDT
Topic: money campaigns cost illegal immigration
Valley gun-maker Frank DeSomma donated about $10,000 worth of guns and equipment to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office earlier this year, but he wanted it to be a secret.
“I wanted to give this because I appreciate the organization,” DeSomma said. “But I wanted to keep it quiet.”
But in Maricopa County, DeSomma soon learned, donations cannot be kept quiet. They are even discussed in public meetings because of specific rules to keep such gifts above board.
DeSomma, who owns Patriot Ordnance Factory in Glendale, was among dozens of people donating to Maricopa County agencies in the past year whose names appear on public documents.
Now, as Sheriff Joe Arpaio begins to openly and actively accept donations for his office’s immigration enforcement efforts, many expect the number of donors to skyrocket.
Topics: Illegal Immigration, Frank DeSomma, Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, Patriot Ordinance Factory, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, donations, immigration enforcement, Gov. Janet Napolitano, disclose donations, Fran McCarroll, Arizona, enforcement needed
May 22, 2008
Nick R. Martin
East Valley Tribune
Arpaio said on Thursday that his office has already received numerous donations this week, just days after setting up a fund to collect them.
A statement released last week by his office said an unnamed California-based group had 10,000 people who wanted to give, but that fact could not be verified.
Since Monday, the sheriff’s office has brought in about $13,000, Arpaio said. As of Thursday, there was no way to independently verify that figure.
Arpaio also said the office was so flooded with calls from people asking how to donate, the sheriff’s staff had to set up a special telephone line just to handle them all.
What sparked the unusual flood of charity was a dust-up last week between the sheriff and Gov. Janet Napolitano.
The governor announced she was yanking more than $1 million in state money from the sheriff’s office in order to create a task force to hunt down fugitives.
Arpaio said he had planned to use the money to round up illegal immigrants and publicly accused Napolitano of a conspiracy to stop him.
That event, Arpaio said Thursday, started the flood of people hoping to help make up the difference.
“I don’t like asking people for money. I don’t like doing it,” said Arpaio, who insists he is not soliciting the donations, only accepting them as they come in.
A review of Maricopa County policies and state laws shows there are few rules guiding these kinds of donations and how agencies handle them. In fact, unlike campaign contributions, there are no limits as to how much someone can give, and there is very little oversight.
In Maricopa County, agencies have to disclose the donations to the Board of Supervisors once a month, and each donation has to be approved by the elected members of the board.
Fran McCarroll, the clerk of the board, said she has seen oddities like horses, cars, paintings and bricks donated to various county agencies. No matter how small the gift, though, it has to be approved, she said.
Arpaio said his agency will help police the donations, sending back any that aren’t specifically marked “for illegal immigration” or are personally made out to him.
However, he said, it will be tough to monitor the process very closely.
“How am I going to check every check?” he asked.
The law is supposed to prevail, our society is not like two tanks connected at the bottom so that when one tank fills the other, to a certain point the tank being flooded is overcome.
We have the natural right to our own nation, not to be decided by anyone else.
Agroup of religious leaders on Monday called on elected officials in Arizona to move from what it described as a hateful tone in the debate about(INSERT ANY CRIME HERE)and to adopt a more compassionate approach.
Look…
I used to steal cars to get to work and run various errands. So by simply working and trying to feed my family, you “peolpe who obey the law” want to label me and my lifestyle illegal. The laws regarding car theft are broken and until comprehensive car theft reform is passed, then I am forced to do what I have to. Don’t kid yourself… the laws regarding car theft were not duly passed, check your history books, the day that these laws were written it was very hot in congress, the windows were open and these so-called “laws” drifted in through the window and landed by pure chance on the books.
YOU GO SHERIFF JOE.
robscottw said:
What does that mean?
As is typical, when one can not put together a logical argument or lacks the ability and facts to do so, name-calling is the result. With that one comment, you reduce or remove any credibility you may have had.
MM put this here to exchange ideas, not for name-calling, flaming or whatever. I’m guessing that robscottw is an adult. Rob, let’s leave name-calling for the playground. Grow up or go away.
Yes, liberals NEVER like it when children are punished for “the sins of the parents” and separated from their families.
– UNLESS the children have cultish parents and are in “imminent danger” of becomming polygamists in 10 to 20 years, then it’s OK to kidnap and separate them from their families.
– OR, of course, in the case of abortion, then the children deserve to be executed for the sins of their parents.
– OR, if children have the same skin color as former slave owners, then they should have to pay through the nose for the sins of their [assummed] ancestors.
– OR, when it is time to
indoctrinateeducate the children, then those who are home-schooled by their families should be shunned and treated as second class citizens.– OR, when they are children of cops slain by activists like Mumia or children of border patrol agents convicted of shooting at drug-running illegal aliens, then they deserve to be separated from their families.
– But, in just about every OTHER instance, children should not be punished for anything their parents do.
I retired from Az….too hot as I got older….Sheriff Joe has always been a fairly good Sheriff, even before the immigration problem grew to such a monumental problem…Many Hispanics, the legal kind, very much appreciate the Sheriff as they are sometimes the most victimized by the lawlessness of the illegal hordes of thieves, rapists, murderers, drunkards, bad drivers, and just all around low-lifes…Believe me, this is not an over exaggeration, as those Hispanics that willfully cheat and break the laws of entry have a propensity to disregard most other laws as well…Those Hispanics that don’t wish to break laws and try to be law abiding, stay home or apply for the correct procedures to gain entry…Therefor, we do not get a natural cross-section of Hispanics, we get the dregs of their society…the cheaters!!…Of course, There are many who come illegally, melt into our society successfully and cause no problems, work, pay taxes, and have children…This is the exception that break the hearts of Americans as these are the stories we all hear about all the time…Being Sheriff under these conditions is one hard and thankless job….and Sheriff Joe does it as well as anybody ever has…
Churches that provide sanctuary for these invaders…they are not illegal aliens….should have their tax exempt status revoked. Members should stop attending these treasonous get-togethers. It is absolutely nauseating that such misguided fools are posing as spititual shepherds.
All right sausage – standing behind white evangelical Christians. No wait, you’re just pro-illegal immigration – never mind. Oh by the way, where is it you live that you see so many racist hillbillies, I must have missed your answer on the other thread.
By “immigration laws that preserve human dignity” I assume you mean laws that allow people to apply for visas, and come when it’s their turn?
I think you may be wasting your breath here, sport. Conservatives, most of the MM readers, want to preserve our nation of laws and want action, not just happy thoughts. We should be encouraging those who enforce laws, not sneer at them. If you think you can do a better job, run for the office. The people will decide.
Sounds to me like robscottw has already been a guest of sheriff Joe. Did you like the pink panties rob?
God bless Sheriff Joe. That guy is a total American Hero!
I miss living in Arizona.. where you can’t remember which recall you signed for which week..
Sheriff Joe is doing the job Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon won’t do, do the dismay of the Phoenix Police force.
doto the dismaySausage takes take the point of view of various ministers who wrote “We must uphold the law, but when laws are used to raid churches and church events and separate children from families, then it indicates that something is wrong with these laws,” said Gary Kinnaman, pastor-at-large of the 6,000-member Word of Grace church in Mesa.”
Well sausage, I don’t want to live in a country where the church decides which laws are okay and which ones are wrong. When that happens, we are no better off than the citizens of various islamic countries where the mullahs and the koran dictate law. Our forefathers were precient in specifically excluding the church from affairs of state.
robscottw??? I think tbear44 #62 hit the nail on the head
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Technically, the buck stops here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/immigration/
Kind of telling that robscottw links to the Phoenix Times, an “alternative” rag. Probably had the pink panties before being busted by Sheriff Joe.
I think the lefties are showing their true colors again when they advocate for a higher wall between church and state than between the U.S. and Mexico. Oafs.
robbscottw,
Don’t be so sure about “all” the posters here. I’m absolutely NOT a fan of Joe for too many reasons. I vote against “Always unavoidable for comment” Joe every time.
Yes the New Times is an alternative paper but the Republic is just as bad in my opinion.
What really tipped me against Joe was when his second in command retired at a full pention (county benefits are pretty good) then was hired back into the same position at $120,000 a year. Double dipping on my dime.
I have to agree with Azygos.
I love Joe’s ideals. If my little brother and all of our friends can live in a tent in Iraq for a year at a stretch, fighting off the emperor scorpions and camel spiders, the criminals can deal with it, too. I think tent city is a fabulous idea. I don’t believe for an instant that the punks who died in custody at MCSO died because of gross negligence, and I don’t believe their families were owed a dime. And the enforcement? I’m all for it.
I just wish we didn’t have such a shady character doing it. Ever hear of Dave Hendershott? ‘Course not. Out here we call him Hendershott the Hutt. He was photographed at a crime scene, hours after the perp had been hauled away, walking around with his gun in his hand, at times muzzling the reporters around him as if he didn’t care. When he retired and drew a pension, as Azygos pointed out, Joe hired him back as the head of finances. The Hutt had declared bankruptcy in his personal finances multiple times, and MCSO had two police cruisers and a helicopter reposessed because of this guy’s dire ineptitude.
How does a HELICOPTER get repo’ed?
On top of THAT, during the last election, Joe managed to get his hands on the list of voter ssn’s and was able to track down which of his employees didn’t vote for him. Completely illegal, yes, but the guy knows how to cover his tracks even though there are witnesses to it. He did it because his own detention officers’ union came out against him. He did something to punish each and every employee that voted against him, including disbanding his SWAT team and shunting seasoned officers to menial desk jobs.
I love the way Joe works it, but he’s too shady. Were it only that Dan Saban were so zealous, I’d be more supportive. Those of you who praise the guy and don’t live in Arizona or haven’t worked for his office don’t know what he’s really like. Even if you don’t agree with those positions you should at least look into them. Some claims are highly exaggerated, yes, but where there’s smoke there’s fire. There’s some truth to some claims.
YAY Joe!
Yep,
Scratch a MM.com “conservative” get a brown-shirted Nazi, at least that goes for most of those responding to this story.
For the record, I’m a CPA (can’t have a criminal record and be that, you idiots) and a life member of the NRA besides being a registered Libertarian.
For you brow-shirted Nazi’s, read the links to what I’ve posted. But whats the point, you can’t understand it anyway.
Most of MM’s posts here are pretty good, but she missed bad on this one. Hopefully the idiots that posted here in support of nickle-bag Joe aren’t representative of her readers.
If it is, it is a scary thought.
Rob,
Do you ever get tired of being a never-ending cliche? So if Conservatives support illegal immigration enforcement, we’re all then “brown-shirted Nazis?” Seriously, where do you get off?
What do you say to those Americans whose family members have been maimed, killed, raped, robbed, and molested by illegals? Sorry, suckers….that’s your problem? What is your solution to the illegal immigration problem? Naturalize the 12-20 million already here, even though we’re having a heck of a time taking care of our own?
I’ve noticed how Libertarians like to “mix it up” a lot. They don’t like to be pigeon-holed but they sure like to do it to the rest of us. I’ve been acquainted with many Libertarians in my time and have noticed how they love to lecture the rest of us about why something is being done wrong, but how they have no solutions to fix it.
What are your solutions? I mean, except to be on this blog and calling those who want fair and equal immigration practices to be observed “brown shirts?” Do you really think that illegal immigrants are just “innocent victims” instead of what they actually are: people well-versed in gaming the system? Since you’re a CPA, do you not understand the economic impact of these invaders? As a former teacher, I’ve seen how illegal citizen’s kids are protected by public schools in Colorado… that they add numbers that can’t be absorbed by our social welfare system, hospitals, etc.
Are you that blind? If Arpaio gets results and affords the citizens a degree of protection from illegal invaders… no matter how you disagree with it… it works.
Just curious: you indicate that “most of those responding to this story” know little about Arpaio other than his enforcement of illegal alien laws, yet you reflexively call them “brown shirted Nazis.”
Notwithstanding your references to left wing papers as indicators of Arpaio as a “corrupt, incompetant, viscious, stupid, and brutal animal in the office of county sherrif,” (sic) is it proper to judge the posters on this as “Nazis” simply because they want the law enforced in this country?
robscottw, since you’ve proven yourself to be a master of ad hominin attack I’m reluctant to mention this, but MM is not the author of this post. It was authored by see-dubya. But I might be mistaken because I’m wearing a brown shirt today and I don’t read too good when I’m wearing my brown shirt.
If every county had a sherriff like Joe the crime rate would be way down and our country would be alot safer. We need more like him.
We need more nickle-bag Joes like Hitler needed more Waffen SS.
yes I know CW wrote the post. Doesn’t matter, its on MM.com so MM gets the credit for hits and misses.
Anyone who thinks this grand-standing sherriff (make no mistake, Joe is only going after illegals for the press – he doesn’t care about enforcing the law – only about getting re-elected) is good because he arrests a few illegals while killing innocent people in his own jail, padding his own pockets from graft thru the commissary in the jail and the posse, ignores violent criminals, and leaves whole areas of Maricopa County without protection, either doesn’t know about him (most responding here don’t), is an idiot, or a xenophobic idiot.
How is that for ad hominem!
Sherrif Joe is a disgrace. If thats what MM’s readers want as law enforcement then the conservative movement is just as dangerous, and stupid, as the liberals.
Request to robscottw:
Please give us the name of someone who you believe would be the best sheriff for Maricopa County.
Saban has already announced he’s running.
McCain endorsed him in 2004.
Whoopsie, you might not have wanted to mention the McCain endorsement on this blog – sure got my radar up…
Anyway, I checked out your guy (albeit quickly and across several links) and listened to his YouTube announcement. He really doesn’t impress me; he’s a democrat with the kinder, gentler approach to law enforcement.
The PolitickerAZ.com site (don’t know much about them) has an interesting piece. Saban was C.O.P. of an area called Buckeye. The Buckeye Police Association is supporting Arpaio. And what caught my interest was his response to their “unique” endorsement. He said he figured the reason for the Arpaio endorsement was because he “stepped on a lot of toes, agitated the status quo.”
Well, in Gladz’s humble opinion, Joe is agitating the status quo and the MSM and several interest groups, hence the money spent on law suits and needing to get the word out via PR/media.
Thanks for the discussion….wish you’d change your mind….but maybe you don’t live in Maricopa Co and can’t vote anyway..tee hee…
One last post to all the JOE HATERS who posted. What was his margin of VICTORY in the last election??? How about 80%. CASE CLOSED!!!
Wow!!! Rob , you sure are quick with scurrilous charges…”lining his own pockets”….”killing innocent people in his own jaul”….”ignores violent criminals”…referring to commenter’s as “nazis”….Hitler references…This is a little over the top, especially for a CPA who is supposed to be somewhat professional, honorable, honest, and display some integrity….You, Sir, seem to have none of the above, and for some support for my conclusion, I submit your own rants on this thread…I can appreciate an opposing view, that’s the American in me…Are you lacking in that area, also?..You certainly are lacking in a gentlemanly graciousness and your argument suffers greatly for it…
Aw waasa matta, scot? Don’t like it when law enforcement officers actually enforce the law? Tough. Neither do the illegals.
Note to all illegal aliens: Get to hell out, and take your kids with you. We’re tired of supporting them.
“Thanks for the discussion….wish you’d change your mind….but maybe you don’t live in Maricopa Co and can’t vote anyway..tee hee…”
Another idiot heard from.
Yes, I do live in Maricopa County. So I know about nickle-bag Joe.
You might also note that I’ve never said I oppose Joe because he’s going after illegal aliens, I’m in favor of agressive enforcement of immigration laws. I oppose him because he is a cure worse than the disease.
Most of the posters here in support of “America’s toughest sherriff” don’t know what they’re talking about.
tee hee yourself.
My mother-in-law will cancel out your vote anyway. Have a nice day.
The disease: Illegal aliens and the various felonies they commit after they cross the border. They also get benefits they have not earned, they leech off of the health care system,and they have no intention of becaoming legal residents, learning English or assimilating into American culture. The cure is for all levels of government; federal, state, and local to follow Arpaio’s example. Title 8 of the U.S. Code, sections 1324 and 1325 are very explicit about illegal entry, as well as those who hire, aid, abet, and harbor illegal aliens. It’s finally getting enforced.
robbie:
I may be an idiot…but I can spell N-I-C-K-E-L. Seriously, hope you don’t have the same problem with numbers that you do with letters–you studly CPA, you.
Or do you bear an animus toward the sheriff because he’s the temporary landlord for most of your clients?
Curious idiots want to know!
and
How do you reconcile calling some of us “xenophobic idiots” and saying that you don’t “oppose Joe because he’s going after illegal aliens, I’m in favor of agressive (sic) enforcement of immigration laws?”
Doesn’t your second statement put you in the category of “xenophobic idiots” (as defined by you) as well? In fact, your second statement is pretty much like most of the posts in this thread. Are you now a “brown shirted xenophobic idiot” because you agree with us that the invasion from the south needs to be stopped?
Your statements are just incongruous.
And isn’t it possible that 12 to 30 million illegal invaders will do a whole lot more damage to Maricopa county and the nation than one sheriff that, according to you, is corrupt?
As far as I am concerned, all I care about is the fact that he is, by whatever means, going after the illegal aliens that the rest of the government won’t, even though that is their duty and legal obligation. If you have problems with the rest of his methods, then vote him out, or run against him yourself. There is nothing the rest of us can do, like him or not. We don’t live there, as you constantly remind us.
Just replace him with another enforcer of immigration laws.
I was there when Joe proposed throwing a cordon around Maricopa county and searching EVERY car that came in.
Then AG Romney politely reminded Joe of something called the 4th Amendment. I’m pretty sure Joe had never heard of that before.
Joe also made the botched raid club -
http://www.cato.org/raidmap/
click on the gray balloons in the Phx area until you find the one that includes this description.
“Police conduct a massively armed raid on a home they suspect contains illegal assault weapons and ammunition. In a densely-populated, upscale neighborhood, a SWAT team from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Department, complete with an armored personnel carrier, uses grenade launchers to fire at least four rounds of tear gas into the windows of the home. The quarter-million dollar home catches fire shortly after officers enter.
As the homeowners evacuate, police officers chase the family’s 10-month-old pit bull puppy back into the burning house with puffs from a fire extinguisher. The dog perishes in the flames. Police allegedly laugh at Andrea Baker, the dog’s owner, as she cries at their cruelty.
Later, the brakes fail on the SWAT team’s armored personnel carrier, causing it to lurch down the street and smash into a parked car. The car’s owner, Julie Madrigal, had fled the car just moments earlier with her nine-year-old daughter after the two grew frightened by the firing of tear gas canisters by SWAT officers.
The home is completely destroyed. Nearby homes are also put at risk. Police find no assault weapons, only an antique shotgun and a nine-millimeter pistol, both of which are legally owned. Nevertheless, police arrest 26-year-old Erik Kush on outstanding traffic violations.
The sheriff of Maricopa County is Joe Arpairo, who made national headlines in the 1990s for his aggressive treatment of inmates and unconventional approaches to crime control. One member of Sheriff Arpairo’s SWAT team once told CBS News reporter Jim Stewart the best part of being on the SWAT team is that, “You get to play with a lot of guns. That’s what’s fun. You know, everybody on this team is–you know, loves guns.” Another adds, “Hey, the bottom line is it’s friggin’ fun, man. That’s the deal. Nobody wants to take burglary reports.”
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Yeah! Thats the kind of police state we all want to live in right?
Not me you idiots.
You people are just as stupid and dangerous as the liberals.
“The letter is noteworthy because many of the pastors who signed it come from largely White, conservative, evangelical Christian churches”
I’m a member of a mega evangelical church in east mesa (part of Maricopa County). Nowhere, after all this “news” have I been able to find a list of the pastors that supposedly “signed on” to this stupidly thought out letter. We support Sheriff Joe here, and his popularity runs at about 80 percent approval, with no doubt he will be reelected next Fall.
He’s tough, ornry, and fair, and will tell you he’s an equal opportunity guy. You break the law, you go to his tent city jail where it was 115 degrees all last week, where you will wear pink underwear and sox, and eat food worth about 25 cents a day……We love him!!
robbie:
Good job! You stopped misspelling nickel. Thanks for another story sourced from the Phoenix New Times–a newspaper Dan Rather would be proud to edit.
I don’t own a brown shirt, but if that’s what it takes to show support for Sheriff Joe I’ll get one.
There is no cure for illegal immigration that’s worse that the disease.
McCain endorsed him in 2004.
Oh that makes him a winner for sure. sarc off
Sounds like you just do not like having people obey the law. I think all Joe does is good criminals are not suppose to be sitting around getting fat off my tax dollars. They are being punished.
Hey dippie Die Hippi Die,
Anyone who focuses on mis-spelled words usually doesn’t have much of value to say. You’re a good example.
I note your post attacking New Times includes the following quote (which you ignore) that “. . . Phoenix New Times, whose writers have won the Arizona Press Club’s Journalist of the Year award eight out of the past eleven years . .”. It would seem that New Times enjoys a pretty good reputation at least within the AZ Press Club.
I doubt you would recognize good journalism if nickle-bag Joe forced you to read it.
Oh, and Bob, Joe was a PROBLEM long before he latched onto illegal immigration as public relations ploy to bolster his re-election effort. No doubt he’ll drop that facade just like Napolitano did after she was re-elected. Then you poor brown-shirts won’t have a hero to get your vicarious thrills from.
But just to prove to you slobbering xenophobes that I can propose a drastic measure to combat a problem he’s a link to something I wrote you might like -
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html
Although few of you are capable of reading that much in one sitting AND comprehending it I’m hoping it restores me to your good graces.
Sorry, not really. I would prefer NOT to be accepted by cretins such as most of you on this thread are.
Or as Laura Ingraham would call it… BUT MONKEY!
Does this pastor even realize how foolish he sounds?