Supreme Court news: A win for the border fence, still waiting for Heller

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 23, 2008 10:45 AM

SCOTUSblog covered the latest round of Supreme Court opinions live. Lots of links to today’s decisions here. Still waiting for a ruling in the highly anticipated Second Amendment case, D.C. v. Heller.

There was some good news today for the border. The high court rejected an attempt by environmentalists to obstruct the border fence in Naco, Ariz. Alas, construction still continues at a snail’s pace.

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  1. #357403
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    “Just cause you got the monkey off your back doesn’t mean the circus has left town.”

    –George Carlin

  2. #357415
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 am, JHSII said:

    Compared to the pace of the construction of the border fence, the snail is on speed…

    :-(

  3. #357425
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am, abstractmind said:

    Couldnt we just have Chuck Norris patrol the border…i mean, he’s on the set of his reality show “Walker, Texas Ranger”

    LOL

    Seriously….lets just get the fence built and get the illegals back on the other side of it.

  4. #357432
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:17 am, txvet2 said:

    Alas, construction still continues at a snail’s pace.

    Can’t get those illegals to work any faster.

  5. #357433
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, swmbo said:

    txvet2 Now THAT is funny.

  6. #357440
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:29 am, Truesoldier said:

    Perhaps Sheriff Joe could be in charge of building the border fence, I’ll bet the fence would be built in no time.

  7. #357445
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:35 am, Christian Soldier said:

    instead of turning all of the difficult issues over to SCOTUS..

    How about if out servants in Congress and the executive branch do the job we’re paying them for and legislate instead of …OKKK vegetate (I had to say it :-) )…and take our $$$ to boot. They have LOTS of time off …on our $$$$ sooo they could be doing the job that Mexico’s leaders won’t do….

  8. #357447
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 am, Christian Soldier said:

    ..our servants

  9. #357451
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:45 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Alas, construction still continues at a snail’s pace.

    Not talking about the fence along the southern border of Mexico I see. Our tax dollars will make sure it is built before our fence is. :roll:

  10. #357452
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 am, Weary Citizen said:

    bush nor any of the “elected representatives” in DC have any intention of building even 25% of the approved fencing. ICE drags its feet, purposely picking areas for the fence they know will cause problems knowing delays and challenges will ensue. WHy not just build it 10 feet from the GD border line? Then if there are legitimate concerns for keeping it open in a few areas, simply put ina gate that has monitoring so anyone coming thourgh is easily spotted. 95% effective is a heck of alot better than the wide open border we have today where the ICE agents simply play hide and seek with the invaders due to crippling engagement rules our PC gov’t places on them.

    My guess is they anticiapte a merger in the next decade so why waste $ on the fence. Just make it look like you are trying to do your job to alleviate suspicion and keep the masses ignorant. I am not a conspriracy nut, but something so simple has been made out to be a bigger task than defeating Japan. Something is rotten in Denmark.

  11. #357454
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    For the record: there are 1,989 miles separating Mexico and the US, 5,525 miles along the US/Canada border and 95,000 miles of shoreline. When you finish fencing everything off we’ll literally be the animals in the freaking zoo.

  12. #357456
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:50 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    The other place famous for its border wall was East Germany…

  13. #357462
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Too bad they couldn’t erect motion sensing “METAL STORM” turrets every 100 yards. I guarantee border crossings would all but be eliminated.

  14. #357466
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 am, JHSII said:

    Rogue Cheddar #11 said:

    Too bad they couldn’t erect motion sensing “METAL STORM” turrets every 100 yards. I guarantee border crossings would all but be eliminated.

    I’d settle for the old Ma Deuce.

  15. #357468
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    #13. Indeed. At once all illegal activity would cease. Of course, it could be problematic when immigration stops becoming the problem and things start to resemble the aforementioned East German scenario. A fence, depending on your perspective, can be used to keep people out or in.

  16. #357475
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:08 pm, swmbo said:

    AW Geez, I don’t know what metal storm or ma deuce means. Help me out please.

  17. #357479
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:12 pm, Craig said:
  18. #357482
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:14 pm, JHSII said:

    Metal Storm is an electronically fired gun that has an incrediblely high rate of fire.

    Ma Deuce is the .50 cal machinegun from the 1920’s that is still in use seemingly everywhere today and for the forseeable future.

  19. #357490
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 pm, swmbo said:

    wowzer !! Major threat.

  20. #357492
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, DesertLover said:

    As I have stated before … take all of the construction units of the military and put them on the border for field exercises … each unit has a responsibility to build a section of fence during their time there … the fence would be done in record time and they get good hands on training they can’t get any other way …

  21. #357497
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:25 pm, xler8bmw said:

    Hadrians Wall nothing more!

  22. #357500
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:30 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    # 15 JHSH Thank you for the links:

    Metal Storm is awesome!

  23. #357506
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm, jt3151 said:

    Compared to the pace of the construction of the border fence, the snail is on speed…

    What did the snail say when he went for a ride on the turtle?

    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

    It’s all relative

  24. #357508
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:38 pm, DogBreath said:

    I’d like someone, anyone in the federal government to recognize the border problem for the national security issue it really is and then take action.

    They treat it as a distraction to running for reelection and only address it to posture for the media or special interest groups on either side.

    Then as soon as people are distracted by the economy or (more likely) some celebrity nitwit, it goes to the back burner.

    Get the damn thing built!

  25. #357518
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:48 pm, txvet2 said:

    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, DesertLover said:

    As I have stated before … take all of the construction units of the military and put them on the border for field exercises … each unit has a responsibility to build a section of fence during their time there … the fence would be done in record time and they get good hands on training they can’t get any other way …

    But it would collapse the first time a big wind came along.

  26. #357522
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:58 pm, ALC said:

    I wonder if the gov. has people holding stop and slow signs or detour signs for the illegals trying to come across while building the fence. Wouldn’t want any of them to get hurt.

  27. #357527
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pm, bit_boy said:

    RE: construction still continues at a snail’s pace

    If it does not involve the transfer of wealth from America to Iraq or trade benefits for Communist China, Bush does not want to hear about it. Especially when it involves his chosen people, illegal Mexicans. Bush does not know illegal Mexicans have invented their own guest worker program. It requires their enrolment in Federal prisons.

  28. #357529
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pm, khan said:

    It’s a shame this story hasn’t gotten any notice here.

  29. #357530
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:06 pm, John Ansell said:

    I wish our LAPD and California Highway Patrol had bumper stickers on all their carrs: You Report, we deport.

  30. #357535
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:10 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    khan,

    With you. BHO will set precedence by signing a federal bill for abortion thereby usurping state rights to legislate. Then, bye-bye 2nd Amendment.

  31. #357539
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 pm, GaMidnightRider said:

    This has me singing a song by the Foreman Folk Heros….. Send Em Back… LOL

  32. #357542
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm, graysonret said:

    It’s amazing that SCOTUS has to decide an issue that has been a “non-issue” for thousands of years, with countries…guarding one’s borders. We have become so sensitive to the “touchy-feely, feel good” crowd, that one’s own natural instincts are called into question. It reminds me of a story I recently read about the homeowner who confronted the burglar in his house, chased him out and down the street, tackled him and held him for police, then got arrested for assault. We’ve been invaded and people cheer, rushing to protect them.

  33. #357599
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 2:37 pm, WarTip said:

    Egypt and Mexico will have their fences long before this issue can be flushed down the drain here in the US.

    A fence here is racist and baaaaaaaaaaad remember? We cannot protect our sovereignty as that would be showing us for the “cowboys” we are.

    Ahhhhhh, if only Americans were the cowboys the left thinks they are life would be so much nicer.

  34. #357608
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    OT: Score one for the ACLU and jihadists everywhere

    A brief one-page order from the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington directed military officials to either “release or transfer Parhat, or to expeditiously hold a new [military] tribunal.”

    He isn’t sprung yet, but being a Chinese citizen attending an al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan and fighting for the Taleban does not an unlawful enemy combatant make, apparently.

  35. #357629
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm, MtsEdge said:

    It’s a shame this story hasn’t gotten any notice here.

    I’m glad to see a legislator who hasn’t forgotten what government should (and shouldn’t) be.

    BHO will set precedence by signing a federal bill for abortion thereby usurping state rights to legislate. Then, bye-bye 2nd Amendment.

    I agree, but what I’d like to know is how does the Federal government justify such a bill? What happened to our right to “life, liberty, etc…”, as opposed to the nonexistent “right to kill a child”? I’m not a Constitutional expert, but I thought the Fed’s powers were limited to declaring war and regulating matters of interstate commerce?

  36. #357651
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm, Little Ma said:

    John Ansell said: “You report, we deport”

    Now that’s clever!

  37. #357690
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 3:51 pm, Wade said:

    Watch for the Heller decision at the very last minute before SCOTUS lawmakers on go on vacation, thus avoiding the crapstorm.

  38. #357841
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 6:47 pm, mchristian said:

    We have borders?

  39. #357846
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 6:56 pm, graysonret said:

    Yes, we have borders, but only at the checkpoints. A mere formality to show the false impression that the U.S. is actually doing something and to let the illegals know where the benefits start. Only legal people go through the checkpoints. The illegal people start a mile or 2 to either side.

  40. #357904
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 8:22 pm, starlightwoman said:

    On June 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, DesertLover said:
    As I have stated before … take all of the construction units of the military and put them on the border for field exercises … each unit has a responsibility to build a section of fence during their time there … the fence would be done in record time and they get good hands on training they can’t get any other way …

    I like that idea – but makes too much sense for the Federal government to put into action.

  41. #357993
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:08 pm, love2rumba said:

    The probable decision in Wash. Dc vs. Heller will probably look like the following: The Washington Dc gun ban is struck down, but the states can decide what is an “arm” for legal sale.

    What do you guys think? This decision could be out anytime now….

  42. #358010
    On June 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 pm, love2rumba said:

    On June 23rd, 2008 at 1:06 pm, John Ansell said:
    I wish our LAPD and California Highway Patrol had bumper stickers on all their carrs: You Report, we deport.

    Right now their motto is “You Report, We decide”

  43. #358926
    On June 24th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, juliesa said:

    Lack of manpower is not what’s slowing this down, at least in some cases. there’s a lot of negotiating with landowners going on.

    The people I know are not happy with the damages they’ve been offered by ACE for their house, which will be fenced off on the Mexican side of the fence, and they also think they’re getting cheated on what they’ve been offered on the eight acres of land that was condemned for the fence.

  44. #358936
    On June 24th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, juliesa said:

    … take all of the construction units of the military and put them on the border for field exercises … each unit has a responsibility to build a section of fence during their time there …

    I wouldn’t want to live in a country where it was ok to plop a construction battalion down on someone’s property and start building without due process of eminent domain having taken place.

    Seriously, it’s very disturbing that anyone could think even for a moment that that’s acceptable procedure in the US.

  45. #360357
    On June 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, MtsEdge said:

    I wouldn’t want to live in a country where it was ok to plop a construction battalion down on someone’s property and start building without due process of eminent domain having taken place.

    Sadly, our esteemed Supreme Court (the one who just protected child rapists and would-be rapists everywhere in this country), has already spoken on this, too, not long ago. I am losing all faith in the justice system of this country.

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