“Obama or die!”: Who’s obsessing about Pooh Bear’s race?
It was an Obama lovefest at the Black Entertainment Television awards last night. Puff Daddy/P Diddy/whatever chanted “Obama or die” and urged his peers to elect the “first black president.” Alicia Keys, last heard spreading conspiracy theories about the government killing Tupac and Biggie and creating gangsta rap to perpetuate black genocide, yelled “Obama, y’all!”
It was one big race-based ad for Obama.
So, who’s obsessing about his race? Oh, yeah. All of us non-black bigots!
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Related: Ed Morrissey points to more race-based commentary about Obama. No, not from us right-wing racists. It’s…Ralph Nader accusing Obama of “talking white.”
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And…if Obama loses the election…they’ll cry racism, of course.
The “Obama or die” is just a throwback reference to his “Vote or die” form a few years ago (2000?).
the only people i know of that watch BET (Bigoted Entertainment Trash) that i know of are people that are incarcerated and have cable tv, and people like Combs and his ilk.
Their race has nothing to do with the fact that’re all either sheep, or retarded. And no amount of hope or change will affect that issue.
But they can keep muggin n thuggin. I’ve got better things to do otherwise.
So does “Obama or die!” mean that if we don’t vote for Obama, they’ll be planning white genocide? Jeeeees’ sayin’.
As will the Democrats. They’ll be screaming “see, we told you the Repubs were racists.”
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Should the Obamessiah loose the election I am sure we will see rioting in most inner cities to make the LA riots look like a family barbeque. After all if you disagree with the anointed one you are a racist.
This has become an annual theme with any award from BET or any other group that is dominated by an ethnicity based membership …
Remember … the only time an ethnic group is not yelling “racist” is when they are the ones espousing a race based preference on a subject …
Not once do you hear a statement of qualifications as a base for their political encouragement to others …
Only selecting due to race …
Now that is true racism …
How persuasive, Mr. Pee Diddler.
I’m so sick of these celebs both black and white telling me to vote Obummer and if I don’t, I’m a racist. I’m not a Marxist or a Socialist, therefore I will not be voting for their Messiah.
I went to hear Philly’s own Jill Scott at Carnegie Hall, NYC, on Friday night, and was prepared to grin and bear it if it turned into an Obama rally. It was a thrilling show from a singer who, as Robert Plant once put it, remembers laughter. (Dio you remember, Eddie Vedder?) One call to show black pride, but no electioneering. Jill Scott may (have to) change her tune, but this is how I’ll remember her.
I thought the dude was half white.
BTW les, you need to hustle your pasty arse over to BET and rail at them for wishing for others’ death. TheOtherSide and DarkKnight–you go with les. Remember to hold hands so you don’t get separated.
Run along.
The blackness doesn’t bother me at all, it’s the redness/pinkoness that forces me, and all those who love liberty, to oppose him.
yt1300inHtown
Actually … due to mixed races from his parents … he is only 1/16th black according to an article I saw …
That’s why there was so much of the “Is Obama Black Enough?” outcry last year …
He should take a hint from Tiger Woods who says he is “mixed” heritage to honor both his mother and his father … he does not claim to just be “black” …
Puff Daddy/P Diddy/whatever chanted “
ObamaSoul Glo or die.”When blacks vote 94% for Obama we don’t hear a peep from the MSM OR our own government about the “obvious racism” or their “lack of a desire for diversity!”
Yet when whites choose a white candidate by a 70% margin, well, EVERYONE KNOWS there’s some “racism” going on…..(in a nation 66% white!)
Non-whites, or as the Popular Culture miss-lables them; People Of Color, are encouraged to unite behind “their” man!
But whites are forbidden from “uniting” under ANY banner or cause. This is the Conventional Wisdom regarding matters of race in America. It’s anti-white and anti-male! But if, (GOD FORBID) white males decided to join together….. OH THE HUMANITIES!
And, contrary to Popular Culture, if someone points out that white people ALSO have interests, this DOES NOT make them biggotted. This is called Leveling the Playing Field!
BET tv. Now, there’s a racist channel if I ever saw one. Don’t see a white channel. Of course, that would be racist, since only whites can be racist. Being such a racist channel, it’s obvious that you’re going to see a lot of racism come out of it. Of course, they support Obama. Don’t know a thing about how he’s going to screw everything up, just that he’s black. Heck, they would vote for Pol Pot if he was running and black. You think blacks have it rough now, wait until the democrats control the entire national government. The government will be everywhere in your life; controlling everything. You’ll end up right back 200 years ago…with the government now pulling the strings.
To me, it sounds like a call to arms. Watch your backs people.
McCain is not voting for Obama, therefore he is obviously a racist. So are you going to vote for a racist?
BET invited Senator Robert Byrd as a grand guest of honor, but he was unable to attend, as he was busy “getting out” the black vote.
Thanks for your 2 cents P-Dude, but I’m voting for MC-J over B-Ob this year.
Word.
Don’t you get it? It’s impossible for blacks to be racist.
It would be a huge shame if Obama didn’t win … would make all of these people so upset.
Die, Diddy!
For the sake of America, just die.
Wouldn’t he actually be the first mulatto President?
Or is that a bad word these days? It’s so difficult to keep up with the changes in political correctness.
Puff Daddy/P-Diddy/Whatever should know all about people dying since when he was running some rap show in Harlem years ago there was a stampede that killed nine people.
He sold far too many tickets than there was capacity for and then took zero responsibility.
The day I start taking political advice from BET, Puff the magic dragon, etc… is the day I’ll cease to exist. Promise me that if you see me going over to the BET side that you’ll pull me back from the brink… promise.
JWF,
It’s a way of life. Recall AKON?
For those who say, think, and feel that they want Obama to be prez because he “looks like me”, there’s a lot of projection of their mindset onto others. If they like Obama because he looks like them, wouldn’t they then figure whites would be against him because he DOESN’T look like them? Except, I don’t see that, at least in the whites I know. It’s like they need to CREATE white people with this mindset, so that their world makes sense. I don’t know, maybe you do have some uneducated whites who think that way. But I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. When a black says they like Obama because he looks like them, I’ll take that at face value. If a white says they won’t vote for Obama because he doesn’t look like them, I’d take that in the same spirit. I just haven’t heard it, haven’t sensed it. I admit I don’t have my secret decoder ring with me which allows so many other people to peer into the hearts of bigots and see the darkness there, so I’m at a disadvantage. Maybe I could take a course and learn how to see the bigot inside the white person.
or “innocent or die” from the OJ trial.
I’ve considered this happening also. As long as the rioting and looting stays in the inner cities….then we won’t have a problem. Start rioting and burning down my neck of the woods - you will have a problem.
Oderint Dum Metuant
The whole identity politics of Obama bores me. What do blacks hope to gain from a black President that they would not gain from a white? More freedom from discrimination? More opportunity? More liberty? This crap was all settled 40 years ago by politicians who wouldn’t recognize today’s Democrat party.
So what are they really looking for?
It’s funny to note that the founder of BET was a big Clinton supporter. Speaking of riots…wasn’t there talk about that in Denver if Hillary was the dhimi nominee.
Its seems to me that Obama, an arrogant, wine sipping, pretty, caviar eating, elitist, is antithetical to the to the black cause. Maybe it’s just because I’m a bitter, average, white, gun toting, god fearing, American, but I think all the Obama fans are saturated with Kool Aid.
It’s preemptive race-baiting. It seems that there is vitriol now, but by the time the election rolls around we will all be so immersed in it that these will seem like the good old days.
“Obama or Die!”
I wonder if this will cause a backlash among white women against Barack Hussein Obama.
I don’t believe that LA Times 12 point lead in the polls for Obama for one second. It is just a way to try to boost Obama.
By the way, I was in Kansas City and Iowa last week, and they are showing this ad in Iowa promoting Obama being raised by his white “single mother.” The whole ad makes Obama into a very conservative white guy. In other words, he is running away from his black American heritage (actually he has no black American heritage; he has a foreign African Muslim heritage) in order to get votes from white Midwesterners. I’m sure the racist Hollywood BET crowd does not realize this.
Obama is trying to be everything to everyone.
I have never felt more disenfranchised with American politics. If Obama wins we will speed up on our march to socialism. If McCain wins we get tons of suck plus race riots. If we were playing poker I would definitely ask for a re-deal, this blows.
They support him regardless of his politics and ignore the fact that he is a liar. Here he is lying through his teeth - in his first general election ad.
He claims to have passed a law which extended health care to wounded troops who’d been neglected. However, Mr. Obie didn’t vote on that bill. Where’s the coverage on that?
Oh. Is he black? I thought he was bi-racial.
/sarcasm off
A black radio host here in East TN, Hallerin Hilton Hill, on WNOX asks why, if he is half black and half white, that makes him the “first black candidate for president”. I think it is a good question, myself. Why does half black and half white make him black, unless it is to take advantage of race. Bi-racial people suffer even more of a disparity, because they get discriminated against by blacks and white in many cases.
By the way, Hallerin Hilton Hill has all but said he is voting for someone besides Barack Obama, because he can’t come close to agreeing with his platform positions.
Those gangster thugs scare me! I mean REALLY scare me. I think they would kill me if they had a chance, and Michelle Obama and her fist bump and “reverend” Wright and that nutty church she worshiped at reminds me of those gangsters.
If a black is educated, well spoken and conservative he or she is called an Uncle Tom. I would support Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice as McAmnesty’s vice president, but blacks won’t get behind them because they are “sell outs” of their drug, pimp, welfare, thug, rap, blame whitey world.
Um, what does William Jefferson Clinton have to say about all of this?
Did he not vote on the health bill either? What I saw was that the law number at the bottom of the screen was actually for a defense spending bill (which of course he did not vote on).
And the funny thing is, you aren’t kidding. What a bunch of paranoid, provincial loons. A call to arms? Get a grip.
One can only hope that your crippling fear of the changing country — full of scary blacks and Mexicans and feminists and gays and college-educated people who eat arugula salads — will make some of your reconsider whether this is the America you know and love and want to call home.
sambo,
The ad Public Law 110 - 181.
The problem is Obie never voted for that legislation. Public Law 110 - 181 is part of the defense authorization bill which passed the Senate in January by a vote of 91 to three with six senators not voting. Barack Obama was among those six absent senators.
So, he’s a big fat liar.
Who do you think gets stuck paying for the clean-up?
I work in one of those inner cities; I’ll be taking vacation the Wednesday through Friday after the election.
No, the funny thing is that those idiots weren’t kidding.
Obama or die? come on now.
Yet another reason for one to get a concealed-carry license. When we vote for someone other than Barack HUSSEIN Obama we need to worry about P. Diddy stalking us waiting for an opportunity to “pop a cap” in our backs.
How will he know for whom we voted?
Blacks won’t be happy until “whitey” is in chains and they think Obama is gonna do this for them. Stupid!
Yeah. When I see these pictures of Joe Lieberman and Bush 41 doing the fist bump, it scares the bejeezus outta me too! When did they join the Bloods and the Crips?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200806100001
I don’t know how old some of you people are but anyone — and I do mean anyone — under 35 knows what a fist bump is. (And, apparently, even 84 year old Bush family members do as well). You can put your terrorist nightmares away (although, really, what would most of you have to keep yourselves going if you didn’t have fear?).
nyk,
Nothing to say about puffy’s statements? Or Alicia Keyes’statements, perhaps?
Isn’t this the same awards show that trotted out those Jena 6 thugs as heroes? Isn’t there usually some sort of fisticuffs or shooting afterwards?
Hispanics are outbreeding pop culture blacks. When they are finally in the majority by 2050 I doubt they will have much solidarity with “first black” anything. Racist blacks need to rethink their strategy, if indeed they think at all.
There was a huge vote campaign called “Vote or Die.” (Do your own research). This was a play on that.
How anyone can imagine it was some dog-whistle comment meant to incite later riots just shows a serious desire to live in fear.
I think nyk is a nyklehead!
On June 25th, 2008 at 10:59 am, yt1300inHtown said:
I thought the dude was half white.
That’s the side I’m voting against.
What? “Obama y’all” and “Obama or die (see “Vote or Die” campaign)?” What else is there to say? And why do you ask, 30? Are you convinced “Obama y’all” is an encoded threat? A secret signal? A wink to the masses confirming the time and date of when the uprising will start?
Please.
Yes. Very tasteless and classless.
That’s a really insightful deconstruction of my comments, Rob!
Moron.
I was hoping for something a little more on the sane side of spectrum. Silly me.
Let me be the first to say that I am neither crippled by some imaginary fear, nor am I afraid of anyone on your list people. Change is an eventuality in life. That is how it goes.
But lets break this down.
The only “scary” thing is that people who promote a thug lifestyle (you know, the ones NOT eating arugula, but degrading women in their music, promoting drug and alchohol abuse, and generally showing they are more of a drain on society than you and lgm combined) are going to vote for Obama. Are these really the people you want trumpeting your cause? Seriously. You need to get a grip. Most of the people on the BET shows wouldn’t know anything about proper English and grammar if it walked up in a clown suit with a marching band playing loudly and smacked them in the face with a sledgehammer. They can’t communicate with any real level of respect or intelligence between themselves, yo, so…again, do you REALLY want people like that being the champions and voice of that particular voting block?
Mexicans, lesbians, blacks, whoever…I don’t care who they are, where they are from (legally, of course), or any other factor you can add to that. I’m not white, still think for myself, and seem relatively rational and calm…so what’s wrong with me? But guess what? My race doesn’t matter. People such as yourself are the first to call for a colorblind society, and then are the first to pull the race card out when it’s most convenient.
Because I want people to take personal responsibility for their actions, to be decent citizens and act like they have some common courtesy and some good old fashioned home training…i’m the enemy?
Call to arms. Perhaps. But not the arms in the gun safe.
The arms of the mind, and of the voting booth. Some people fight the good fight in those places.
And that, as they say, is that.
This is my own opinion, but I think we’re in for rioting whether Barack Hussein Obama wins or loses. Celebrating a win will turn into a damaging riot, (remember the Boston World Series Winners?)which might stay in the inner cities; and then the damaging riots all over the Country, if McCain wins. It’s a lose-lose proposition either way. That’s my thoughts on the situation. It’s really sad that we have come down to this.
Abstractmind #59,
Bravo! Spot on.
Most blacks are patriotic and for the most part social conservatives. Yet they are willing to vote for the most left wing/Marxist candidate ever to run for president. . .solely because of the color of his skin. This is a tribal mentality. Our Founding Fathers feared this type of barbaric mob democracy.
Reminds me of a black coworker who lives in DC that I worked with. She was extremely Christian–against abortion, against the killing of Terry Schiavo, against same sex “marriage,” was for school choice. . . but then didn’t like Condoleeza Rice for the same reason that blacks don’t like her or Colin Powell.
She hates how they have taken God out of the public schools. . .but then for sure will vote for the Hugo Chavez like Hussein Obama who will appoint radicals to the courts.
This tribal mentality is destroying blacks and our nation.
You better not try to take nyk’s bbq sandwich from her.
I suspect far fewer whites don’t vote for Obama based on skin color than blacks, and, for that matter, guilt ridden libtards, vote for him because of skin color.
His little speech a few days ago implying McCain’s campaign would use racism and fear against him was laughable.
The only scary thing about Obama is the Marxist based policies he would impose on the economy, the partisan and activist judges he could put on the courts to replace all the aging libs who would let him and a solid lefty Senate chhose their succesors, and, of course, the terrorist attacks likely to come back to America when Obama gives al Qaeda a massive victory when he surrenders in Iraq with the US on the cusp of victory.
One cannot argue with an Obamamaniac and NOTHING can alter an Obamamaniac’s opinion. They think that “change” must mean change for the better. They LOVE Obama and HATE America. I think the best thing to do is ignore these nykleheads .
Trying to educate an Obamamaniac is like trying to teach a pig to sing… it is a waste of time and just annoys the pig.
Great post, Abstractmind.
On another note…
Yes, perhaps “Obama or Die” is word play on “Vote or Die.”
However, what if some nutjob decided to promote “George Wallace or Die”, or perhaps “David Duke or Die”? Would these comments be seen as not racist due to word play? Of course not. At issue here is not that P. $hi^^y was being clever, but rather he is suggesting that not voting for Obama would somehow trigger a worsening of black’s fortunes, as if only a black could improve them. This is rubbish as Abraham Lincoln and a quarter million dead white Union soldiers would likely attest. The irony is the entire rap culture couldn’t give a hoot about materially improving black families or outcomes.
BSR
I’m pretty sure that Puffy (or whatever his name is these days) — having been active in prior “get out the vote” efforts — has voted in the past. As, likely, has Alicia Keyes. And, probably, so too have an awful lot of people at that awards show (most of whom, truth be told, are in the class of arugula eaters you people find so exotic). Their votes probably went to Kerry last time. This time they’re going to vote for Obama. No reason to lose any sleep or buy new attack dogs or Uzis.
So do I. Not sure why you presume this is the sole province of conservatives. Or what it has to do with the notion that fist bumps identify Michelle Obama as a “thug” (which is plain stupid).
nyk said:
This has to be the only person on this board that has no concept of reality. And the funny thing is it’s what you call a blatant exercise in hubris while not willing to look at any facts. Really this person hates white people. I don’t get it nyk. Were you not elected prom queen or got run off the cheerleading team by the prettier blond and mocha girls? Self hatred soothed with arrogance.
It is a nightmare scenario if Obama gets elected. Every terrorist group and nation will immediately test him. . .because they know that he will not use force to defend American and Israeli interests.
This is the type of “change” we will get if Hussein Obama is elected: numerous terrorist attacks, a REAL economic depression, the “fairness” doctrine (censorship), a war against Israel when Iran emboldened by a Hussein victory attacks Israel, and no border security whatsoever.
Oh but the world will LIKE us if Obama is elected! The Sally Field-like Sambo and NYK are such airheads. They want “change” but don’t question what this “change” will be.
What does this have to do with this discussion? Nothing. But it’s typical that you’d bring it up.
You people are horrifyingly simple. Thank god your kind is slowly disappearing, and thank god I was born way too late to have to deal with a world where your attitudes are the norm.
Heading out. Enjoy your day, cowering from imagined enemies, communists and rogue minorities.
The first Muslim, comes to my mind.
Guess most blacks do not care.
Just his color gives him a free pass.
He’ll turn on them too.
For the record, modeled until I was 18. Call me back when you’ve actually touched a woman (and the pages of a magazine don’t count).
nyk said:
Thank you for you simple hubris. A modicum of sagacity would indicate mental imbalance.
nyk said:
Well maybe you were treated like dog meat by those white conservative football players? Don’t worry dear in twenty years they’ll all be divorced with huge beer bellies.
It had to do with abstractmind
eating your lunch!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, us people are. My kind is slowly disappearing. NOT. My 9 year old daughter is as least as conservative as I am.
I am fairly new at this and I hope this is a good time to share this info with you.
I Googled “African American Conservatives and Republicans” and selected the Wikipedia page, however it’s usually not a main source of info for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_American_Republicans
I forgot that Dr. King was a republican.. I was surprised at some of the other notable African Americans who are republicans.
I then found this article by Frances Rice:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16500
It makes you wonder why 90% of the black voters vote democrat and also tells you how well the libs have done in rewriting recent American history.
First of all Obama is not black as noted earlier, but rather biracial. Secondly the black parent was not African American, but rather African. Thirdly that parent did not grow up through past racial discrimination in America. Fourthly Obama was raised by his white grandparents in a state where whites are in a minority.
I grew up on the Southside of Chicago and I am more in touch with Black America than Obama.
“Obama or Die?” Does this call for a photoshop?
Why yes. I believe it does.
SW0303,
Every black person on that list is a sell-out. Tells you a lot about the mentality, doesn’t it?
Pardon?
P who? lol…..
If Obama wins (or loses), will they yell ‘death to America’?
You mean like these two thugs?
Oh and if you bother to read the story in the link…..pay particular attention to what the perps say about why they went to Garland in the first place.
I live right down the road from Garland. But I’m just a typical white person, clinging to my guns huh? Just hatin’ and trying to scare. Oh wait….there’s more:
If Obama loses in November I’ll toss my shotgun into the car to supplement my usual “carry” weapon. And no, I’m not a “paranoid, provincial loon,” accusations by nyk to the contrary notwithstanding.
Sorry–I lumped Sambo with NYK by accident in my comment above.
Notice how NYK won’t even capitalize “god.” It is NYK’s attitudes that are backwards. If he had the chance he would force his socialist “change” on us. . .just like every utopian socialist dictatorship has done in the past. NYK: taking us back to the good old days of the French, Soviet, Chinese, and Khmer Revolutions.
“Obama’s Change or Die!”
My mistake, Sambo. I misread one of your comments by accident. NYK is the one with the airhead like obsession with “change” and being “liked” around the world.
The MSM is going to make it even worse with their phony, laughable “15-point” leads for Hussein Obama. When McCain wins Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio, and Florida, it is going to be a shock for some people.
Barbarians like to riot, so you can expect a lot of this going on right after election day when the affirmative action, Wright candidate loses.
30 since you mentioned it, you’re right, they are all sell - outs. Unfortunately, most pols are.
30, I have read your comments for several months now and have noticed that you are always “right on spot” with your opinions. Please keep them coming.
What is funny is a young, naive hipster with such limited knowledge of history outside of their own personal experience that she could make a statement saying something like “I can’t imagine anything could be worse that the last 7 years under George Bush”. And we are provincial?
More to the point, it is the people on your side (the left) of the political spectrum that frequently threaten violence, and follow through, when their demands are not met. Have you ever read any history, especially about the 60’s that is so glorified by the liberals? There was a lot of talk about peace and love by the lefties, and that is probably all you have heard, but it was all about force and violence in the end. For starters try reading Destructive Generation by David Horowitz. It will open your eyes to reality of what so many in the Democrat party hold up as the high point of American history.
Or if you can’t bear to learn about the world before you were born consider the Re-create ‘68 movement that is/was a very real threat of violence to the Dem convention. Don’t believe it? The Denver police do and are stocking up on arms.
I think every conservative that is considering staying home should remember that it will be people like nyk running the country if Obama wins.
Nyk is a reflection of the ineptitude the feminist movement has created. Single, angry, and devoid of all skills it takes to handle a real man.
never mind.
Obama can’t run on his record, since it’s non-existent. He can’t run on his choice of associates, since they’re being exposed one after another as untrustworthy, dishonest, or insane. All he’s got left is race. I’ve got 99 reasons to vote against him, and his race ain’t one.
BTW, why is the fist bump a big deal? Isn’t it just an extension of the high five? I do it with my kids all the time, for example when one of them makes a great joke.
To P-Diddy: I choose death. Of course, Bub, you have it to do.
Well, maybe nyk will log and see this, but somehow i doubt that he’ll care.
I don’t believe anything I said was “simple”, though the concept certainly qualifies.
IF I were to follow your logic about Whatever His Name Is These Days, and he voted for Kerry last time, well…how nice and completely unimportant. What I said in relation to this was…
I guess it IS simple….horrifically so simple you actually forgot to address it properly. My apologies for not making it mind numbing or “For an IQ of PreSchool level or less” simple.
You’re right…but the last time i checked, your thug friends there didn’t carry those…its about their “gat” and a “tek 9″ and them being “strapped”. Uzi’s are so 80’s.
Ahh, but again…it’s not what your urban messengers are talking about these days. I don’t see alot of Diddy’s songs having to do with personal responsibility. Again, even IF the message Obama has would be one of “real hope and change”, then he’s not gaining any traction with level headed people, with people like these folks rallying to his cause.
I never said her fist bump was anything of the kind. He!!, I do that myself with my friends. That doesnt make you “thug”. She’s plainly un-American, but that doesnt make her anything other than what she already was before.
You, Sir, shouldnt be allowed in the same intellectual zip code. Sambo rightly put it that i “ate your lunch”, and i did a rather good job of doing so, and it was infinitely better than arugula. People like myself, who are older and (i would solidly venture) are wiser that yourself live in a world where people such as yourself have a simplistic, naive view of reality. It’s your right to do so, and to voice your opinion. You have the right to be heard, but not the right to be taken seriously. Your posts are numbingly simple in their delivery, lack of tangible facts most of the time, and the fact that you try to unsuccessfully obscure the discussion with talks about Kerry votes and fist bumps…weak sauce.
But you come back now, ya hear (as they say in the South)! I’ll be hungry around 6pm or so, and since your lunch was so good, I think i’ll have some dinner too!
*bows*
Well, when about a tenth of the population in the US commits over half the murders, it isn’t completely irrational to be a tad nervous around black men.
I’ve never really paid attention…nyk is a girl? Not that it matters really, but now i’m curious.
No one, except for ageing hippies, buys the utopian society they have commodified and sold as the ’60s. The war, the fallout from a generation of burnouts dying of drug overdoses, the Manson Family, the SLA, the cop shoot outs of other groups — even Altamont –and yes, the ‘68 DNC are evidence aplenty of how inaccurate their portrayl of the era is. I’m really not a fan of Horowitz (and even a cursory study of history gives away the truth of the matter) so I’ll pass, but suffice it to say, I don’t have any longing to have been at Woodstock. And anyway, I’m bored by the vice-like grip that Baby Boomers have on popular culture and the revisionist history they present.
I know you guys think that everyone who disagrees with you must live in trees, long for the ’60s and spend their days planning how to bomb military recruitment centers, but that’s just further indication of your need to get out more.
Still smarting from my calling you out as the sexless onanist that you are, huh?
Well, sorry to report I’m not single, and dates have never been a problem for me. But I sincerely wish you the best of luck convincing ladies you’re a “real man.” You’ll need it!
abstractmind said:
Yes Nyk is a female. She went to a ‘really good school’ and possibly works for MTV or some music magazine and lives in the big city. She claims she’s easy on the eyes, but as you can see she’s a cheese grater on your mind.
Nyk said:
I pity the guy.
Nyk, I’m dating a concert pianist.
Yep, them blacks folks sure are racist - where do you think they learned such a silly way of thinking?
Come on people, diversity is only one sided. And that side doesn’t even want diversity, they want it all, no matter that they haven’t earned it and don’t plan to earn it.
I’m not sure liberals know what they want anymore. They just don’t want conservatives to have it either, whatever it is.
Ahh. I see.
Then I retract statements of “he” and “Sir”…replace those with she and Miss as appropriate.
Easy on the eyes eh? i’ll bear that in mind
Just because they’re cute doesnt change my mind, but…i’m always open to dinner *grin*
I don’t have any friends who carry guns, so I’ll move on to your next (erroneous) “point.”
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say I’m more in touch with pop/rock music of all kinds than you are, and I can’t think of a single genre focused on personal responsibility! The next time you identify a black metal artist or nu-rave singer talking about why we should all do our chores, let me know and then we’ll compare and contrast.
Well, one of YOUR friends here (Rob) — and I quoted him in my response, which you’re welcome to actually READ — said that the fist bump had to do with MO being associated with gangsters. Guess that means you must be, too!
Pot, kettle. You conflate issues, talk about “thugs” voting for Obama (where do you think those votes of those millionaire entertainers were going before?), don’t read prior posts to understand what the discussion is about or how it got there, and generally have no idea what you’re talking about. Announcing that you’re wiser doesn’t make it so, although I assume you lack the brain power to recognize that. Ignorance (and fear as fuel) is bliss, I guess.
I’m originally from the South, and that’s a more accurate as a greeting from the Beverly Hillbillies. But nice try.
Regarding concerns over Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs’ animated exhortations to “Vote Obama or Die,” #42 NYK said:
From the August 7, 1997 edition of Rolling Stone Magazine:
I remember this CCNY incident very well; it was Puff Daddy’s Freddie’s Fashion Mart incident where he was personally responsible for the deaths of nine black people. I never understood how Puff Daddy’s own “community” let him move past this 1991 incident.
So when I hear irresponsible people with blood on their hands, like Puff Daddy, tell others to do ANYTHING or else die, I cautiously take him at his word.
Below are a few lines from Obama’s books; In his words!
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’
From Dreams of My Father : ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’
And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
Obama’s not the racist? STFU please.
Sure, underseige (I made sure to misspell it). A blow up doll who plays piano.
Maybe you can sell ladies on your “wild imagination?” Just a thought…
nyk said:
Nyk you’re such a loser. Go bang the Puffy drum for Obama little girl.
Testy little lonely guy, huh? Take some of that fire and put it into duping a girl into going out with you! To quote BO: Yes you can! (For the record, I personally don’t really think you can, but I feel sorry for you and I want to be supportive…)
HAHAHA
Excellent. You actually fought back. Failed and with no point that actually was valid, but…excellent attempt.
I actually DID read what was posted, and responded in kind (its kind of how we got to this point to begin with, miss). Thanks for acknowledging that fact.
With Mo’s fist bump..Rob said that. *I* didn’t, as you aptly pointed out. Thanks!
And no, i am not trying to lump this all into one argument. I made individual points. You again breezed past that to use words that scare other liberals. Conflate is a big word for you methinks, you might want to apply it properly.
And I see my posts have thought, humor, AND are well written. The only kettle on the burner would be you.
No, but pure demonstration (as i’ve done in the past, done here today, and will continue to do in the future) should suffice rather well.
I’ve said before, and will continue to say, that I have no fear in regards to you or your viewpoints, your candidate, or the damage they want to do to our country. Liberals, however, DO fear conservative views. They fear because it’s not complete and abject agreement to their position. It’s fearing that someone, somewhere (GASP!) might not need to be on the public handouts. It’s the fear that somewhere, someone (MORE GASP!) might actually want to not expose their children to views they find contrary, and want to not be taxed into oblivion for public programs that fail on a repeated basis.
No matter how much you want to bite back at what i said, you didn’t really refute the main points other than some slightly interesting barbs. YOUR friends might be better people to not carry guns. But look at the bright side.
Everyone has arugula when its all said and done.
Meetings call, cya tomorrow everyone.
nyk said:
Thanks for that lecherous support dear.
lol
I did! Maybe you should look it up to understand how it should be applied. Merriam Webster is online now, for your convenience…
This is absolutely true. I, and other sane people I know, fear the world the far, far right envisions.
And frankly, conservatives — and I see it expressed openly here every day, so it’s pointless to argue this — deeply fear a world that embraces diversity, multiculturalism and liberal policies and philosophies in general.
nyk
You seem to paint with an awfully broad brush for someone allegedly so erudite. When typical white folks paint with that brush, we call it prejudice.
But back to the topic…
Leaving Contemporary Christian music out of the discussion, Country Music often talks about personal repsonsibilty and dealing with the consequences of poor decisions. It also has the benefit of being sung in words us typical white folks understand.
BSR
BSR,
Check and mate.
What is this ‘far, far right’ world you of which you write? And, how do you know what they envision? Please don’t tell me I have to go into the old stacks at the library!
I don’t listen to much of this boring new country (so I can’t comment on it), but I love old country, and there’s a lot of praise given to some pretty questionable activities. No one ever called Hank Williams or Johnny Cash or Waylon Jennnings moralists. Singing lyrics lamenting what you did last night isn’t the same as singing about buckling down and walking the straight and narrow.
And music is music. Country’s traditionally sung in words typical English speakers can understand. As is hip-hop (ask anyone — regardless of color, dear friend — under 40.)
The world of personal responsibility?
YES, we are AFRAID of liberal policies - true. Diversity and multiculturalism are liberal tactics…which you are too naive to see.
Of course, in the liberal view, diversity is all about skin color and ethnicity, and sexual orientation, not opinion.
As far as multiculturalism, its a good thing to know and appreciate the world’s cultures, but to imply that the culture of Saudi Arabia, or the Peoples Republic of China, where girls are abandoned because boys are preferred, and exacerbated by the one child policy, is equal to our own is ridiculous.
Ouch! That might leave a mark.
Liberals have a predisposition to try to overlook those statements by Obama, GK, going as far as to say they are “fabricated”.
I’ve never really understood that aspect of their logic (using that term loosely).
Diversity, in lib speak, is also a code word for quotas.
If you’ll recall, Janet Reno was not Clinton’s first choice for AG. But he was determine dhis AG should be a woman. The first two had issues, IIRC, with not paying taxes for their nannies.
Note, on the other hand, how George Bush winds up with an African-American woman as his national security advisor, and later his Secretary of State, not because he decided he needed a Black woman for a certain position, but because he believed she was best qualified.
Now, Ms. Rice, IMHO, has been a bit of a dissapointment as Sec’y of State, but four years ago I would have have voted for a ticket with her on it as the VP candidate, and after eight years, would have had no problem supporting her for chief executive.
Conservatives will vote against Obama because of his radical beliefs, not because of his skin color.
Barry F.
The good news, BHO recorded audio versions of his books. Hugh Hewitt has played snips from them. Nothing like hearing Obama discuss his dislike of white people, and the eventual shame he developed in his mixed ancestry, in his own voice.
Of course (I don’t agree with the “radical” here, but then again, I’m not a conservative, and so I don’t see it as such). I certainly would never support Ms. Rice in any political campaign.
Anyway. Gotta go. Enjoy the rest.
He attended TUCC for twenty years, and launched his campaign from the home of Ayers and Dohrn, who are unrepentant domestic terrorists.
I guess there are no ‘radicals’ left of political center in your world.
Please tell me that your not inferring the great Mr. Wright is a radical.
Country Music often talks about personal repsonsibilty and dealing with the consequences of poor decisions.I think the “dealing” part most often involves a fifth of whiskey.
Nyk said:
Sleep around much?
For MAD Magazine apparently.
Nope. But nice try (although, by your lonely standards, a single kiss might qualify).
Wow. You must’ve gotten really steamed at that last barb and figured out that your attempt at an insult fell flat! I guess I must’ve nailed your loser status on the head. Your anger is really telling. And sad. You poor thing…You poor, rosy palmed thing…
Nope. For real magazines and a real agency (two actually; I switched when I became a teenager). I’d suggest you have your girlfriend submit her portfolio but they only use living, breathing, actual humans in ads.
Alright. Really gotta go this time.
But remember seige/Goldwater: No matter how many insults you throw, offline you’re still the pathetic, friendless jerk that you and I both know you are.
Ta, ta.
Nyk you’re pretty sad. It’s quite obvious you’re not getting as much nourishment as you need. I hope that limp wristed, effeminate thing you’re dating can pull it off somehow for your hollow, meaningless sense of self.
All I know is I’ll have Chopin played for me tonight. Lol.