“Obama or die!”: Who’s obsessing about Pooh Bear’s race?

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 25, 2008 10:45 AM

It was an Obama lovefest at the Black Entertainment Television awards last night. Puff Daddy/P Diddy/whatever chanted “Obama or die” and urged his peers to elect the “first black president.” Alicia Keys, last heard spreading conspiracy theories about the government killing Tupac and Biggie and creating gangsta rap to perpetuate black genocide, yelled “Obama, y’all!”

It was one big race-based ad for Obama.

So, who’s obsessing about his race? Oh, yeah. All of us non-black bigots!

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Related: Ed Morrissey points to more race-based commentary about Obama. No, not from us right-wing racists. It’s…Ralph Nader accusing Obama of “talking white.”

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  1. #359811
    On June 25th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    abstractmind said:

    I’ve never really paid attention…nyk is a girl? Not that it matters really, but now i’m curious.

    Yes Nyk is a female. She went to a ‘really good school’ and possibly works for MTV or some music magazine and lives in the big city. She claims she’s easy on the eyes, but as you can see she’s a cheese grater on your mind.

  2. #359825
    On June 25th, 2008 at 1:59 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Nyk said:

    Well, sorry to report I’m not single, and dates have never been a problem for me. But I sincerely wish you the best of luck convincing ladies you’re a “real man.” You’ll need it!

    I pity the guy.

    Nyk, I’m dating a concert pianist.

  3. #359831
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Yep, them blacks folks sure are racist – where do you think they learned such a silly way of thinking?

  4. #359833
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, swmbo said:

    Come on people, diversity is only one sided. And that side doesn’t even want diversity, they want it all, no matter that they haven’t earned it and don’t plan to earn it.

    I’m not sure liberals know what they want anymore. They just don’t want conservatives to have it either, whatever it is.

  5. #359834
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, abstractmind said:

    On June 25th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Ahh. I see.

    Then I retract statements of “he” and “Sir”…replace those with she and Miss as appropriate.

    Easy on the eyes eh? i’ll bear that in mind ;) Just because they’re cute doesnt change my mind, but…i’m always open to dinner *grin*

  6. #359836
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, nyk said:

    but the last time i checked, your thug friends there didn’t carry those…its about their “gat” and a “tek 9″ and them being “strapped”.

    I don’t have any friends who carry guns, so I’ll move on to your next (erroneous) “point.”

    I don’t see alot of Diddy’s songs having to do with personal responsibility.

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say I’m more in touch with pop/rock music of all kinds than you are, and I can’t think of a single genre focused on personal responsibility! The next time you identify a black metal artist or nu-rave singer talking about why we should all do our chores, let me know and then we’ll compare and contrast.

    I never said her fist bump was anything of the kind. He!!, I do that myself with my friends.

    Well, one of YOUR friends here (Rob) — and I quoted him in my response, which you’re welcome to actually READ — said that the fist bump had to do with MO being associated with gangsters. Guess that means you must be, too!

    Your posts are numbingly simple in their delivery, lack of tangible facts most of the time, and the fact that you try to unsuccessfully obscure the discussion with talks about Kerry votes and fist bumps…weak sauce.

    Pot, kettle. You conflate issues, talk about “thugs” voting for Obama (where do you think those votes of those millionaire entertainers were going before?), don’t read prior posts to understand what the discussion is about or how it got there, and generally have no idea what you’re talking about. Announcing that you’re wiser doesn’t make it so, although I assume you lack the brain power to recognize that. Ignorance (and fear as fuel) is bliss, I guess.

    But you come back now, ya hear (as they say in the South)!

    I’m originally from the South, and that’s a more accurate as a greeting from the Beverly Hillbillies. But nice try.

  7. #359838
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, BrianNY said:

    Regarding concerns over Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs’ animated exhortations to “Vote Obama or Die,” #42 NYK said:

    What a bunch of paranoid, provincial loons.

    From the August 7, 1997 edition of Rolling Stone Magazine:

    In 1991, Combs promoted a concert headlined by Heavy D. The concert was held at a City College of New York gymnasium following an AIDS charity basketball game. The event was massively overcrowded; it was oversold to almost twice the capacity of the gymnasium. In addition, thousands without tickets were outside. In order to keep them from sneaking in, Combs’s people shut the only door to a stairwell and put a table behind it, despite the crowd jammed inside pounding on the door and pleading for help. At some point people in the crowd outside broke several glass doors in an attempt to get in; this caused a stampede inside the gymnasium in which nine people died. In a 1999 ruling, a Court of Claims judge found Puff Daddy and Heavy D. responsible for 50 percent of the incident.

    I remember this CCNY incident very well; it was Puff Daddy’s Freddie’s Fashion Mart incident where he was personally responsible for the deaths of nine black people. I never understood how Puff Daddy’s own “community” let him move past this 1991 incident.

    So when I hear irresponsible people with blood on their hands, like Puff Daddy, tell others to do ANYTHING or else die, I cautiously take him at his word.

  8. #359839
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Below are a few lines from Obama’s books; In his words!

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’

    From Dreams of My Father : ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’

    From Dreams of My Father: ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’

    And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!

    From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’

    Obama’s not the racist? STFU please.

  9. #359849
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, nyk said:

    Nyk, I’m dating a concert pianist.

    Sure, underseige (I made sure to misspell it). A blow up doll who plays piano.

    Maybe you can sell ladies on your “wild imagination?” Just a thought…

  10. #359860
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    nyk said:

    Nyk, I’m dating a concert pianist.
    Sure, underseige (I made sure to misspell it). A blow up doll who plays piano.

    Maybe you can sell ladies on your “wild imagination?” Just a thought…

    Nyk you’re such a loser. Go bang the Puffy drum for Obama little girl.

  11. #359883
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, nyk said:

    Nyk you’re such a loser. Go bang the Puffy drum for Obama little girl.

    Testy little lonely guy, huh? Take some of that fire and put it into duping a girl into going out with you! To quote BO: Yes you can! (For the record, I personally don’t really think you can, but I feel sorry for you and I want to be supportive…)

  12. #359891
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, abstractmind said:

    HAHAHA

    Excellent. You actually fought back. Failed and with no point that actually was valid, but…excellent attempt.

    I actually DID read what was posted, and responded in kind (its kind of how we got to this point to begin with, miss). Thanks for acknowledging that fact.

    With Mo’s fist bump..Rob said that. *I* didn’t, as you aptly pointed out. Thanks!

    And no, i am not trying to lump this all into one argument. I made individual points. You again breezed past that to use words that scare other liberals. Conflate is a big word for you methinks, you might want to apply it properly.

    And I see my posts have thought, humor, AND are well written. The only kettle on the burner would be you. :)

    Announcing that you’re wiser doesn’t make it so, although I assume you lack the brain power to recognize that. Ignorance (and fear as fuel) is bliss, I guess.

    No, but pure demonstration (as i’ve done in the past, done here today, and will continue to do in the future) should suffice rather well.

    I’ve said before, and will continue to say, that I have no fear in regards to you or your viewpoints, your candidate, or the damage they want to do to our country. Liberals, however, DO fear conservative views. They fear because it’s not complete and abject agreement to their position. It’s fearing that someone, somewhere (GASP!) might not need to be on the public handouts. It’s the fear that somewhere, someone (MORE GASP!) might actually want to not expose their children to views they find contrary, and want to not be taxed into oblivion for public programs that fail on a repeated basis.

    No matter how much you want to bite back at what i said, you didn’t really refute the main points other than some slightly interesting barbs. YOUR friends might be better people to not carry guns. But look at the bright side.

    Everyone has arugula when its all said and done.

    Meetings call, cya tomorrow everyone.

  13. #359906
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    nyk said:

    Testy little lonely guy, huh? Take some of that fire and put it into duping a girl into going out with you! To quote BO: Yes you can! (For the record, I personally don’t really think you can, but I feel sorry for you and I want to be supportive…)

    Thanks for that lecherous support dear.
    lol

  14. #359917
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, nyk said:

    Conflate is a big word for you methinks, you might want to apply it properly.

    I did! Maybe you should look it up to understand how it should be applied. Merriam Webster is online now, for your convenience…

    Liberals, however, DO fear conservative views.

    This is absolutely true. I, and other sane people I know, fear the world the far, far right envisions.

    And frankly, conservatives — and I see it expressed openly here every day, so it’s pointless to argue this — deeply fear a world that embraces diversity, multiculturalism and liberal policies and philosophies in general.

  15. #359923
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    nyk

    You seem to paint with an awfully broad brush for someone allegedly so erudite. When typical white folks paint with that brush, we call it prejudice.

    But back to the topic…

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say I’m more in touch with pop/rock music of all kinds than you are, and I can’t think of a single genre focused on personal responsibility!

    Leaving Contemporary Christian music out of the discussion, Country Music often talks about personal repsonsibilty and dealing with the consequences of poor decisions. It also has the benefit of being sung in words us typical white folks understand.

    BSR

  16. #359931
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    BSR,
    Check and mate.

  17. #359934
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, wighttrasch said:

    fear the world the far, far right envisions.

    What is this ‘far, far right’ world you of which you write? And, how do you know what they envision? Please don’t tell me I have to go into the old stacks at the library!

  18. #359938
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, nyk said:

    Country Music often talks about personal repsonsibilty and dealing with the consequences of poor decisions. It also has the benefit of being sung in words us typical white folks understand.

    I don’t listen to much of this boring new country (so I can’t comment on it), but I love old country, and there’s a lot of praise given to some pretty questionable activities. No one ever called Hank Williams or Johnny Cash or Waylon Jennnings moralists. Singing lyrics lamenting what you did last night isn’t the same as singing about buckling down and walking the straight and narrow.

    And music is music. Country’s traditionally sung in words typical English speakers can understand. As is hip-hop (ask anyone — regardless of color, dear friend — under 40.)

  19. #359948
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, sambo said:

    nyk said:
    Liberals, however, DO fear conservative views.
    This is absolutely true. I, and other sane people I know, fear the world the far, far right envisions.

    The world of personal responsibility?

    And frankly, conservatives — and I see it expressed openly here every day, so it’s pointless to argue this — deeply fear a world that embraces diversity, multiculturalism and liberal policies and philosophies in general.

    YES, we are AFRAID of liberal policies – true. Diversity and multiculturalism are liberal tactics…which you are too naive to see.

  20. #359954
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    And frankly, conservatives — and I see it expressed openly here every day, so it’s pointless to argue this — deeply fear a world that embraces diversity, multiculturalism and liberal policies and philosophies in general.

    Of course, in the liberal view, diversity is all about skin color and ethnicity, and sexual orientation, not opinion.

    As far as multiculturalism, its a good thing to know and appreciate the world’s cultures, but to imply that the culture of Saudi Arabia, or the Peoples Republic of China, where girls are abandoned because boys are preferred, and exacerbated by the one child policy, is equal to our own is ridiculous.

  21. #359955
    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, Barry F. said:

    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Leaving Contemporary Christian music out of the discussion, Country Music often talks about personal repsonsibilty and dealing with the consequences of poor decisions. It also has the benefit of being sung in words us typical white folks understand.

    BSR

    Ouch! That might leave a mark. :lol:

  22. #359957
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Barry F. said:

    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Below are a few lines from Obama’s books; In his words!

    Liberals have a predisposition to try to overlook those statements by Obama, GK, going as far as to say they are “fabricated”.

    I’ve never really understood that aspect of their logic (using that term loosely).

  23. #359963
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Diversity, in lib speak, is also a code word for quotas.

    If you’ll recall, Janet Reno was not Clinton’s first choice for AG. But he was determine dhis AG should be a woman. The first two had issues, IIRC, with not paying taxes for their nannies.

    Note, on the other hand, how George Bush winds up with an African-American woman as his national security advisor, and later his Secretary of State, not because he decided he needed a Black woman for a certain position, but because he believed she was best qualified.

    Now, Ms. Rice, IMHO, has been a bit of a dissapointment as Sec’y of State, but four years ago I would have have voted for a ticket with her on it as the VP candidate, and after eight years, would have had no problem supporting her for chief executive.

    Conservatives will vote against Obama because of his radical beliefs, not because of his skin color.

  24. #359966
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Barry F.

    The good news, BHO recorded audio versions of his books. Hugh Hewitt has played snips from them. Nothing like hearing Obama discuss his dislike of white people, and the eventual shame he developed in his mixed ancestry, in his own voice.

  25. #359989
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, nyk said:

    Conservatives will vote against Obama because of his radical beliefs, not because of his skin color.

    Of course (I don’t agree with the “radical” here, but then again, I’m not a conservative, and so I don’t see it as such). I certainly would never support Ms. Rice in any political campaign.

    Anyway. Gotta go. Enjoy the rest.

  26. #359995
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    He attended TUCC for twenty years, and launched his campaign from the home of Ayers and Dohrn, who are unrepentant domestic terrorists.

    I guess there are no ‘radicals’ left of political center in your world.

  27. #360000
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, sambo said:

    Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    He attended TUCC for twenty years, and launched his campaign from the home of Ayers and Dohrn, who are unrepentant domestic terrorists.

    I guess there are no ‘radicals’ left of political center in your world.

    Please tell me that your not inferring the great Mr. Wright is a radical.

  28. #360005
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, chapoutier said:

    Country Music often talks about personal repsonsibilty and dealing with the consequences of poor decisions.

    I think the “dealing” part most often involves a fifth of whiskey.

  29. #360029
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Nyk said:

    Well, sorry to report I’m not single, and dates have never been a problem for me.

    Sleep around much?

    For the record, modeled until I was 18.

    For MAD Magazine apparently.

  30. #360049
    On June 25th, 2008 at 3:56 pm, nyk said:

    Sleep around much?

    Nope. But nice try (although, by your lonely standards, a single kiss might qualify).

    Wow. You must’ve gotten really steamed at that last barb and figured out that your attempt at an insult fell flat! I guess I must’ve nailed your loser status on the head. Your anger is really telling. And sad. You poor thing…You poor, rosy palmed thing…

    For MAD Magazine apparently.

    Nope. For real magazines and a real agency (two actually; I switched when I became a teenager). I’d suggest you have your girlfriend submit her portfolio but they only use living, breathing, actual humans in ads.

    Alright. Really gotta go this time.

    But remember seige/Goldwater: No matter how many insults you throw, offline you’re still the pathetic, friendless jerk that you and I both know you are.

    Ta, ta.

  31. #360068
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Nyk you’re pretty sad. It’s quite obvious you’re not getting as much nourishment as you need. I hope that limp wristed, effeminate thing you’re dating can pull it off somehow for your hollow, meaningless sense of self.

    All I know is I’ll have Chopin played for me tonight. Lol.

  32. #360079
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, nyk said:

    All I know is I’ll have Chopin played for me tonight. Lol.

    We all have iPods. The rest of us just don’t tend to prop up dolls at the piano and pretend like the music’s coming from them.

    Have a good night, Norman. Say hi to the other Bates.

  33. #360086
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, abstractmind said:

    And

    no, i am not trying to lump this all into one argument. I made individual points. You again breezed past that to use words that scare other liberals. Conflate is a big word for you methinks, you might want to apply it properly.

    quick check…
    i believe the “I’m not not trying to lump this into one argument” would be what I was eluding to as the defintion of the word you claim i dont understand. Funny how the statement was made simplisticly and you overlooked it.

    In fact, http://www.dictionary.com (wonderful site for you to view, btw) says the world conflate means:
    to fuse into one entity; merge: to conflate dissenting voices into one protest.

    Oops. Guess I should stop being right, Miss Thang.

    I am far from being the “far far right” as you claim. I get flayed on here at times because I’m a godless heathen, among other things. I dont believe anything i’ve said, as far as social commentary and opinion, is anything other than sane or rational. If you have examples of me going all “unhinged”, i’d be happy to address that calmly and intelligently.

    I don’t doubt you’ve got some intelligence. But what about being “liberal” is so good? Personally, I opt for discipline and order in life…the exact opposite of what the word liberal means, right?

    But you have a good day, nyk :)

    And music is music. Country’s traditionally sung in words typical English speakers can understand. As is hip-hop (ask anyone — regardless of color, dear friend — under 40.)

    I agree. Music is Music. But listening to ludacris for more than about 5 milliseconds would give someone the impression that whatever is being spoken isnt typical english, unless the word “ho” and its ilk are “typical english”. Your argument just doesn’t have alot of merit in that respect. I’m guessing we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

  34. #360095
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:20 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, nyk said:

    I don’t listen to much of this boring new country… .

    Yeah, I know what you mean – the Dixie Chicks are jus’ plain awful!

  35. #360103
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    nyk said:
    Well, sorry to report I’m not single, and dates have never been a problem for me.

    Darn. Late to the catfight.

    Goldwater Knight:

    Based on the statement above, I think nyk is the screen name of Eliot Spitzer.

  36. #360116
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Die Hippie, Die :

    Based on the statement above, I think nyk is the screen name of Eliot Spitzer.

    That was cruel and unloving. ;)
    New York
    Klown
    Klutz
    Knave
    Know
    it all
    What are you trying to tell us?

  37. #360137
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, nyk said:

    Sigh. Quickly:
    Per Merriam-Webster:
    conflate: 1 a: to bring together : fuse b: confuse

    You responded to my argument — which was fairly clear (1) giving a “pound” doesn’t equal being a “thug,” and it’s silly to imply it does and 2) I think it’s absurd to suggest that anyone at that awards show was calling for riots in the streets) with a bunch of unrelated stuff, responded to a comment that wasn’t MEANT for you (the fist jab bit), and similarly went on and on. I had to assume you were confused. I only had your posts to go on. Get it?

    Miss Thang.

    Uh…

    I am far from being the “far far right” as you claim.

    Sigh. I’ve read your comments enough to know you’re not far, far right, and didn’t accuse you of any such thing. But you said that liberals “fear conservatives.” I was saying, Yes, the world conservatives would like to live in scares me and most people I know very, very much. But you conveniently omitted the fact that conservatives here — and there’s no end to it being mentioned — are plenty scared of what they imagine the liberal world to be like.

    But what about being “liberal” is so good?

    I believe in liberal ideals. The things people here oppose so adamantly, well, I’m for most of those things. A laundry list would include the fact that I’m pro choice, anti the Iraq war, pro stem cell research, pro diversity and multiculturalism, I support social programs and outreach for poor people, I think people should be able to marry whoever they want…I could go on and on, but generally, my liberalism colors how I think of lots of things. I think it’s silly to ask “What about being liberal is so good?” It is what it is. And it has zero to do with omitting order and discipline in life. I believe in those things — to me they’re moral and decent in a way that say, not supporting health care for kids because it might take a dollar out of your pocket is not (I don’t want to have a fight about that right now, I’m just make a point). I view those principles as superior (or “so good,” as you put it), because that’s where my values lie. It’s not a game of one upsmanship, it’s where your heart and your core is. I’m sure you feel the same way about your own moral code, whatever it is.

    listening to ludacris for more than about 5 milliseconds would give someone the impression that whatever is being spoken isnt typical english, unless the word “ho” and its ilk are “typical english”. Your argument just doesn’t have alot of merit in that respect.

    I’m not a Ludacris fan but since his music is omnipresent, I think I can address this. The global sales of rap and hip-hop imply that someone gets it. Maybe it isn’t “typical” English, but your average suburban OR urban person who grew up from the ’80s onward understands what the music is about, understands the message, and it must resonate with them, because it’s the biggest form of music in the world. I imagine it’s not far off from the way kids in the ’50s and ’60s understood what Little Richard and Elvis meant, even if the old folks didn’t. It may be Greek to you, but for a lot of kids, it’s perfectly easy to understand.

  38. #360142
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, nyk said:

    Yeah, I know what you mean – the Dixie Chicks are jus’ plain awful!

    It all sucks (IMnotsohumbleO)compared to the people doing this back before country was basically pop with an occasional slide guitar.

  39. #360145
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm, nyk said:

    Goldwater Knight:

    Based on the statement above, I think nyk is the screen name of Eliot Spitzer.

    Uh, whatever “Die Hippie, Die.”

    Idiot.

  40. #360149
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    To All The Good People At Michelle Malkin:

    The truth is Nyk and I did go on a date once. If you’d like to see an account of it, it’s right here. Enjoy. ;)

  41. #360152
    On June 25th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, nyk said:

    The truth is Nyk and I did go on a date once.

    You’ve never been on a date. Make all the jokes you want, but that little fact is the funniest, and cruelest of all.

  42. #360174
    On June 25th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Nyk is true you still think offshore drilling is getting banged on a cruise ship?

  43. #360177
    On June 25th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, nyk said:

    Nyk is true you still think offshore drilling is getting banged on a cruise ship?

    Jeez, you’re lame. Have fun with Rosie Palm tonight.

    Bye.

  44. #360181
    On June 25th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    nyk said:

    Uh, whatever “Die Hippie, Die.”

    Idiot.

    For the record, modeled until I was 18.

    Now I recognize you. You’re BEFORE.

    BTW, if there’s a pole involved, it’s not really “modeling.”

  45. #360182
    On June 25th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    Jeez, you’re lame. Have fun with Rosie Palm tonight.

    Bye.

    The ultimate authority on lameness has spoken.

  46. #360211
    On June 25th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    I know I haven’t a chance Nyk, you only sleep with Democrats. Sigh…

  47. #360301
    On June 25th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    BTW, if there’s a pole involved, it’s not really “modeling.”

    It’s also not really modeling if:
    -Your mother’s boyfriend was the “photographer.”
    -The camera was a webcam
    -You have to click on a “YES, I’M 18 OR OLDER” button to enter the website displaying your portfolio.

    Be careful out there. ;)

  48. #360309
    On June 25th, 2008 at 6:26 pm, mattm said:

    I have only watched BET(black entitlement television) a few times. At my work we have few black employees. I work PT at a union, shudder, supermarket while I am in school.

    One of them got written up from violation the Employee Purchase Policy. Basically he took merch form the shelf and put it in his locker WITHOUT paying for it. HE was suspended for a week and when he came back he started blaming all the white people for telling management. He was later arrested and fired for cornering a white employee who he thought made fun of him and claimed he would “get his white ass.”

  49. #360407
    On June 25th, 2008 at 8:07 pm, MikeA331 said:

    Hey NYK,
    How many times are you going to come back after saying good-bye (without answering andy of the relevant question)
    Your sounding more and more like an attention whore you come to Michelle Malkin.com to talk trash but refuse to defend any of your so called logic with anything but rhetoric. It says alot about you.

  50. #360412
    On June 25th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, starlightwoman said:

    On June 25th, 2008 at 10:48 am, BlameAmericaLast said:
    And…if Obama loses the election…they’ll cry racism, of course.

    I couldn’t have said it better myself

    On June 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, BayStateRepublican said:
    nyk

    You seem to paint with an awfully broad brush for someone allegedly so erudite. When typical white folks paint with that brush, we call it prejudice.

    But back to the topic…

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say I’m more in touch with pop/rock music of all kinds than you are, and I can’t think of a single genre focused on personal responsibility!
    Leaving Contemporary Christian music out of the discussion, Country Music often talks about personal repsonsibilty and dealing with the consequences of poor decisions. It also has the benefit of being sung in words us typical white folks understand.

    BSR

    BSR – I’ve listened to hard rock and heavy metal for most of my life, well over 30 years since I was a young teenager. I find a lot of the same qualities in it also.

  51. #360540
    On June 25th, 2008 at 11:29 pm, emjem24 said:

    Yet another example of why I avoid BET like the black plague it is. Oh, I’m sorry that was a play on words, NYK, you may now beat me over the head with your pc demands!

    /sarc off

    Now, really, I think it interesting that NYK is suggesting that us poor white folk who don’t vote for Obummer are “living in fear” of diversity because we “don’t like” Mexicans, gays, blacks, etc., etc. It is really quite revealing how those who prefer to live in “enlightened,” cultured, educated bubbles like NYK don’t seem to have the tolerance to converse with the population he/she looks down on.

    And let’s be clear here, NYK, for all the times you’ve called me and other posters racists, you yourself bring up identity politics at every turn when anybody criticizes your candidate. I think it very racist that a majority of blacks think voting for a black candidate will make their lives any easier. If you don’t think something is wrong with that, well, then you really live in an insular world of make believe. :roll:

  52. #360543
    On June 25th, 2008 at 11:46 pm, emjem24 said:

    NYK:

    One more thing to consider since you’ve got Conservatives “pegged.” Your insinuation that Conservatives= uneducated morons (or fill in the word that most describes NYK’s word usage) is not only ignorant it’s tedious. It’s like suggesting that a majority of folks who serve in the Armed Forces have not attended college (when statistics show that our Armed Forces are more educated than the American population, even you NYK).

    It’s interesting on one hand you let loose with a diatribe about whites or those who are intolerant of “diversity” yet like to sling around stereotypes for Conservatives that are more liberal talking points than reality. As an educated woman myself, I’ve seen how the stereotypes you use against Conservatives don’t stand up against reality (or statistics).

    The other, disappointing thing (for you) is your ignorance diminishes your argument. For every college-educated person I’ve met in my life, I become acquainted with other college-educated folks that don’t seem to know much outside their sphere. Would that be you?

    Go ahead, return to your bubble. We won’t mind.

  53. #360605
    On June 26th, 2008 at 12:52 am, nyk said:

    Yet another example of why I avoid BET like the black plague it is.

    I don’t watch BET and frankly, I really couldn’t care less if you do — or how you spend your free time. Or what kinds of plays on words you fancy yourself making.

    Now, really, I think it interesting that NYK is suggesting that us poor white folk who don’t vote for Obummer are “living in fear” of diversity

    Literacy is a skill I suggest you acquire. I never said this. I said that the idea that (follow me here) 1) MO is a “gangster” because she gave someone a “pound” is dumb and 2) I think it’s ludicrous to suggest that any of the aforementioned from the award show this post is based on were suggesting an uprising should Obama not win.

    For more proof, see #122. It directly flies in the face of what you’re saying. Not voting for Obama doesn’t make you racist, and I never suggested it did. (And I’ve never seen any other “liberal” contributors here say anything of the sort). Vote for who you want, dear. No one’s persecuting you for it (despite what your martyr complex tells you).

    It’s interesting on one hand you let loose with a diatribe about whites or those who are intolerant of “diversity”

    Um…what does being white have to do with it? YOU randomly brought this up. I know plenty of white people who have relationships with all kinds of people. I was talking to the people on this site who make ridiculous statements like the ones I point to in this post (and in others, which you would know had you READ them). YOU are the one who brings race to every conversation. And you seem to have great difficulty with linear arguments.

  54. #360703
    On June 26th, 2008 at 7:26 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Literacy is a skill I suggest you acquire. I never said this. I said that the idea that (follow me here)

    Come now Nyk, don’t act like like the white trash you are. Please do visit the psychiatrist, he’ll give you the drugs you need to understand what reality is.

    By the way, I tend to think you’re lying your ugly face off because modeling for a JC Penny circular doesn’t really count. Sheesh. The weirdos don’t stop coming out of the woodwork.

    And take off the “Sluts for Democrats” pin please. Lol.

  55. #360749
    On June 26th, 2008 at 8:53 am, jsr said:

    On June 26th, 2008 at 12:52 am, nyk said:

    Not voting for Obama doesn’t make you racist, and I never suggested it did.

    No I guess not. You just make a blanket condemnation of all conservativez with the following:

    And frankly, conservatives — and I see it expressed openly here every day, so it’s pointless to argue this — deeply fear a world that embraces diversity, multiculturalism and liberal policies and philosophies in general.

    Believe it or not, The United State was a diverse country, and accepted it, long before liberals decided to embrace diversity. What does that mean anyway? Do you have a quota system for making friends? Are you sure to include some Jews, gays, Asians and Native Americans in all your gatherings? I’m willing to bet you just like to hang around with people you like and feel comfortable with. Is that alright if us conservatives do the same? Most consevatives I know enjoy meeting people with other backgrounds and viewpoints, but we don’t want it shoved down our throats.

    You claim to emrace diversity but obviously not with regard to ideas:

    the world conservatives would like to live in scares me and most people I know very, very much.

    You seem to have limited people you know to the extremely liberal/progressive types or you would know more conservatives just by sheer odds, and know more about them. I’d say at least 30% of my friends are liberal and using the generic “people I know’ I’m sure it is close to half. If you dont have any conservatives in your life and all your friends think this about conservatives, you are avoiding diversity of thought.

    Going back to your contention conservatives fear diversity: does that mean I fear my wife (South American Indian) and son? Obviously not. She is a big hit with everybody she meets, even those fearful conservatives.

  56. #360815
    On June 26th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Tuesday said:

    They can have Obama and they can have their wish to die, too. They all seem to be walking, talking ads for the empty suit.

    Spare us.

  57. #360970
    On June 26th, 2008 at 11:22 am, nyk said:

    And take off the “Sluts for Democrats” pin please. Lol.

    I laughed at that too (LOL), only because it’s proof of how irrepressibly corny you are. I’m sure your dorky guy friends would laugh at this sort of thing if you had any dorky guy friends, but alas…’tis not your fate (and you know it’s true).

    In reponse to the non-idiots:

    Do you have a quota system for making friends? Are you sure to include some Jews, gays, Asians and Native Americans in all your gatherings?

    No quota system, but yeah — I have a lot of close friends who are Jewish, and my best friends include a Pakistani-American woman, an East Indian man, two biracial woman, and two white guys. And, for good measure (that’s sarcasm!) a sprinkling of gays (one black, one Jewish).

    Do I think that the kind of people who post the most inflammatory stuff here don’t have very diverse friendships — by any measure? Ethnic or political? Absolutely.

    I’m willing to bet you just like to hang around with people you like and feel comfortable with.

    Yep — and so do you, apprently, since you follow this with:

    Is that alright if us conservatives do the same?

    So we agree on this point.

    You seem to have limited people you know to the extremely liberal/progressive types or you would know more conservatives just by sheer odds, and know more about them.

    Extreme for you is probably vastly different than defined by me, since people on this site seem to think that the people living in trees in Berkeley are “typical liberals” (they aren’t, btw). But let’s not quibble over semantics, shall we?

    “Limited” isn’t the right word. There aren’t many conservatives working in the creative arts (aside from Vincent Gallo, who’s pretty much a Republican as a form of resistance art, I can’t think of even one…), and that’s pretty much what everyone I know is involved in, in some form or another. Further, I live in a town where you’d have to search pretty hard to find a conservative (it’s part of why I live here, honestly, and part of why people spend their lives longing to come here), so the close friends I’ve made while living here aren’t much on conservatism. Add to the fact that my other friends are mostly from my liberal college OR liberals from my conservative high school, and there’s plenty of reasons why there aren’t many conservatives in my life.

    Going back to your contention conservatives fear diversity: does that mean I fear my wife (South American Indian) and son? Obviously not. She is a big hit with everybody she meets, even those fearful conservatives.

    Well, no one said they fear tokenism.

    Ha.

    All kidding aside, I had no idea how much the concepts of “multiculturalism” and “diversity” are villified by the right until I started reading this site. It’s true that not every contributor to this site is on the same page. But my “sweeping generalizations” about conservatives are mainly based on what I read here. The attitudes I see here — which are pretty much my only interactions with conservative culture — have shaped my image of how you (meaning conservatives, overall) generally think. And I often find it troubling. I’ve said this before, but I initially came here out of curiosity, because I thought I’d been too reductive and essentialist about conservative thought, and I wanted to hear more and learn more. But what I’ve seen in reading the comments on this site has mostly solidified some of the most negative stereotypes of conservatives. I used to find some of the most offensive things people say here — and it happens quite often — shocking. Sadly, I now see it as a definitive part of the culture.

  58. #361034
    On June 26th, 2008 at 11:58 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    nyk said:

    [n]ot your fate (and you know it’s true).

    Only thing I know to be true is you’re an arrogant slut unctuous, meretricious lady of the night who knows a few 5 dollar words.

    Kiss my sweet ass b*tch.

  59. #361077
    On June 26th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, jsr said:

    On June 26th, 2008 at 11:22 am, nyk said:

    Thank you for the serious response. On a lighter note:

    There aren’t many conservatives working in the creative arts

    That is our main contribution to fighting poverty – avoiding professions that lead to it.

    resistance art

    I’m almost afraid to ask, but are you serious?

    Well, no one said they fear tokenism.

    She has actually become one of “them”. When I met her my wife was pretty much a socialist (or a Evo-ista more precisely) After coming here getting a job and paying taxes (and seeing what I pay) she has gone somewhat to the right of me. Getting a job and paying taxes has always been a great recruiting tool for conservatives. Which is what (hopefully)will happen to you once you ditch the creative arts.

  60. #361122
    On June 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, nyk said:

    That is our main contribution to fighting poverty – avoiding professions that lead to it.

    Well, if you have a passion for something (like, say, visual arts, for example) that exceeds your passion for money, why not do it? There’s nothing wrong with working hard in a field that doesn’t guarantee a big profit return. And there are ways to make money in creative fields — they’re just harder to discover than simply suiting up and joining Wall Street.

    Getting a job and paying taxes has always been a great recruiting tool for conservatives.

    Well, I have a pretty straight job (although my job description is creative), and that’s been true for the last few years, and I’m lucky to make a nice living — although in a ridiculously tax-happy city. Sum total: I know what it’s like to watch a staggering amount of your paycheck go to Uncle Sam at every level. I don’t know that that would ever lead me to conservatism. I don’t mind that my money goes to causes I believe in — including down-on-their-luck fellow citizens (and even non-citizen fellow humans!). I do mind, however, that it goes to things I staunchly oppose. But providing necessities to those who have almost nothing? I’m fine with that. I wish more of my taxes went to those things.

    I’m almost afraid to ask, but are you serious?

    Um…unfortunately yes. It’s a popular theory about him. Keep in mind, he’s kind of an a-hole, and his every move is calculated to be provocative, and this would be in keeping with that theme. It’s silly (the entire persona, as well as the absurdly bad films) but I’m sure it’s helped him make loads of money.

    Getting a job and paying taxes has always been a great recruiting tool for conservatives. Which is what (hopefully)will happen to you once you ditch the creative arts.

    Ha. We beg to differ on a lot, but I like your snarky sense of humor.

    Now, pardon me while I address the angry loner for a sec:

    Kiss my sweet ass b*tch.

    You know, you only prove my point by reacting so strongly…Kind of gives away that you really are a compulsive self-touching loser. (I wasn’t sure ’till you got so angry. That confirmed it!)

    If you had an actual girlfriend, I’d sarcastically joke that your personality makes you a “real catch!” But the funnier joke is that you had to create a pretend girlfriend — for the EXACT same reason. Doesn’t the irony leave you in stitches?!?! LOL, as you say!

  61. #361233
    On June 26th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    OK Nyk we’ll pretend you’re a model. I know it’s incredibly self soothing to make up some pompous indentity to hide the fact you lead squalid life working at Wendy’s.

    And I wouldn’t exactly call myself angry. I’d call myself masculine. You know, as in opposite to those half gay metrosexuals you are so keen on. Obviously you’re not used to having a man around the house worth his salt. Let me guess the guy you date wears an earing. Lol…

    Okay Nyk, I sure do enjoy the banter, but please, get a grip.

  62. #361326
    On June 26th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, Paul-Cincy said:

    Michelle, don’t you ever ban posters who monopolize your message forum with their off-topic backbiting nastiness? They can always come back the next time you open up registration.

  63. #361333
    On June 26th, 2008 at 3:45 pm, nyk said:

    Back for more, eh? Sure!

    I know it’s incredibly self soothing to make up some pompous indentity to hide the fact you lead squalid life working at Wendy’s.

    Ohhhh — I get it! YOU hide your hideous self behind your (oddly, equally hideous) Internet personality, and you therefore assume we all do! I guess you can’t imagine any other way.

    In my case, I wasn’t lying about modeling as a kid and teen, about my boyfriend, or about anything I’ve mentioned here. You’re the one who keeps dwelling on it, probably out of loneliness. I don’t understand being a loser of your caliber — I don’t know that anyone here possibly could — but I’m sympathetic.

    And I wouldn’t exactly call myself angry. I’d call myself masculine.

    Well, you’d also call yourself “dating a real woman” and “almost nearly not a complete and total loser,” but we both know that isn’t true, silly! (And you do know it. I can tell. I’m glad you’re past the denial stage! Good for you!)

    You know, as in opposite to those half gay metrosexuals you are so keen on. Obviously you’re not used to having a man around the house worth his salt. Let me guess the guy you date wears an earing. Lol

    LOL is right! It is funny that you’re wrong again (although, what else would you be?). No earring. Maintains proper grooming. Is attractive. I know for guys like you that’s called “gay” and “metrosexual,” because what you don’t understand, you fear, like most other small-brained animals. But don’t be scared. For the rest of us, being clean and well-dressed and socially adept are perfectly normal!

    Anyway — I know you need to go ring the bells of the cathedral now, so I’ll talk to you later.

  64. #361372
    On June 26th, 2008 at 4:12 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    It’s gotta be that time of the month for you.

  65. #361446
    On June 26th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, nyk said:

    It’s gotta be that time of the month for you.

    I know you don’t know what that means, although you’ve probably heard other men say it. It’s like repeating the big kids on the playground, isn’t it? You feel naughty saying it, even though you don’t really know what it means. One day, I’ll tell you about ladies and their lady parts! (Try not to giggle, you!)

    Oh — and enjoy crying yourself to sleep tonight.

  66. #361647
    On June 26th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, Goldwater Knight said:

    You remind me of this woman I dated who got her Master’s at Dartmouth except she was more tenacious than you and definitely more liberal than you. Possibly quite smarter too. :)

  67. #361850
    On June 27th, 2008 at 4:01 am, love2rumba said:

    Maybe Ralph Nader wants to be run over by a ‘63 Corvair…..

  68. #362064
    On June 27th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Come now Nyk, don’t act like like the white trash you are

    hey hey…oh, wait.

  69. #362560
    On June 28th, 2008 at 1:14 am, MikeA331 said:

    Nyk, why do you insist on running back to this site for attention I haven’t seen you do anything but provide for us more examples of how far to the left of most americans you are. Tell me are you here to discuss (provide facts and knowlegde as in a debate) or are you here to garner more attention to yourself because you don’t get enough in real life? Tell the truth.

  70. #362561
    On June 28th, 2008 at 1:17 am, MikeA331 said:

    For the record I don’t want anyone else to insult her/him. I want you to truthfully tell me why and what makes Barack Hussein Obama the candidate that most Americans can trust and agree with no feelings no hope just plain facts.

  71. #362995
    On June 29th, 2008 at 10:19 am, mjk said:

    FYI – Puffy’s “Vote OR Die” campaign was a veiled reference to the conspiracy theory that if you didn’t vote for John Kerry, George Bush would reinstitute the draft. Thus people would die. Yeah, how’d THAT work out?

  72. #363362
    On June 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pm, MikeA331 said:

    I’m still waiting on you there NYK… no insults nothing personal just facts please take your time and get back to me.

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