Even Bigger Outrage–Mexican soldiers hitmen arrested for murdering man in his Phoenix, Arizona home
If you thought this was bad, wait till you see this.
The suspects may have been hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations in the U.S.
Police reports show that three men arrested in a Phoenix home invasion and homicide Monday may have been active members of the Mexican Army.
Full tactical gear, AR-15s, 50-100 rounds burped off at the victim’s house (who was suspected to be a marijuana dealer) and alleged plans to “ambush” any Phoenix PD officers who tried to stop them.
When the Wall Street Journal says, “Let there be open borders”, is this what they had in mind?
Forget the fence for just a second and think about this:
The Mexican Army has made several incursions across our Southern border. Some were probably just units getting lost, some had a more sinister reason behind them…but given the recruitment of elite military assassination squads by the cartels, this should be seen as a serious problem.
It would be overstating the problem to say that “the Mexican military is invading us”. But there is a criminal, militarized element that is crossing the border with impunity and distressing regularity, and for nefarious purposes.
Why is President Bush pulling the National Guard off the border? Granted, there have been some problems, but why should we leave potential combat with a militarized incursion to the Border Patrol?
Okay, now think about the fence again. Real, please, not virtual.
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UPDATE: That Fox item linked above (and the AZ Republic) is saying they weren’t active Mexican soldiers, but that one had received military training. So, okay, nothing to worry about then. Just business as usual. Six trained hitmen in a Tahoe full of AR 15s and tactical gear can drive across the “border” and kill a guy in his house in Phoenix and expect to get away with it.
No problem here. Everybody go back to sleep.
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Great, now factions of the Mexican Army are killing people in the US. Answer: sweep it under the rug and protect the silk road.
Is this really surprising to anyone? This has been happening for year and no one wants to do anything about it. I wonder what McAmnesty has to say about it happening in his backyard.
Well you knew this was coming. Mexico doesn’t recognize our border, and neither does Bush
Can we get the Iraqi army to fight them?
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It is time to put the military back down on the border. Only this time, they need to be ordered to shoot any illegals coming across the border. We may never see the fence and we have to stop them somehow.
Ok, this is somewhat related, given that it occurred in McCain’s state and given Juan’s open arms for open borders…
McCain’s strategy: link
Sounds like John Kerry all over again. “Hey, did you know I was in Viet Nam?”
And this, McCain again turning his back on party, as if partisanship is a bad thing:
I will never vote for Juan McCain.
Why is this not a surprise to me?
more on happenings in Phoenix which appears to be a hotbed of Islamic terror activities and Mexican drug cartels - PHOENIX — An Iranian-born engineer has pleaded guilty to transporting stolen property, including training software, from a U.S. nuclear plant where he had worked to Iran.
Mohammad Reza Alavi, 50, pleaded guilty to the charge in a deal reached Tuesday with federal prosecutors, according to The Arizona Republic.
A federal jury last month had convicted Alavi of illegally accessing a protected computer but deadlocked on two other counts, and he faced a retrial.
He faces a maximum of 15 years in prison on both charges at a Sept. 29 sentencing.
Alavi, a naturalized U.S. citizen, worked for Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station west of Phoenix for 17 years.
Authorities said that after Alavi quit the station in 2006, he took a laptop to Iran containing training software with design schematics and other details of the plant. His material did not contain enough information to pose a security threat, Palo Verde officials have said.
But prosecutors said Alavi knew he was breaking federal law when he took the software to Iran and then downloaded codes to use it in Iran. /**/
Last month, a jury convicted Alavi of illegally accessing a protected computer, but it deadlocked on one count of stealing protected software from the plant and one count of illegally exporting it in violation of the U.S. trade embargo with Iran.
As part of the plea deal, prosecutors dropped the charge of violating a U.S. trade embargo. Alavi also agreed not to appeal his conviction of illegally accessing a computer.
“We are pleased to have achieved a resolution with the government which fits the case and which enables Mr. Alavi and his family to move forward with their lives,” defense attorney David Laufman said Tuesday.
After Alavi was arrested, Palo Verde operator Arizona Public Service promised to implement new security procedures.
How far from the border is Phoenix? 150+ miles?
Thank goodness, I thought I was seeing a pattern here. Good thing they didn’t try it in California, they would be limited to 50 rounds of ammo each. Those CA legislators know how to solve problems…
Now the Rio Grande isn’t all that grande in some spots and some stretches may even be dry this time of year, but there’s still a river bed for a reference — South = Mehico, North = U.S.
Lost? I don’t think so; more like “we don’t need no steenkin’ approval to cross!” And Phoenix is over a hundred miles north of the border as the crow flies.
Barack Obama thanks you.
HMMMMMM follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$
The practicalities of erecting nearly 2,000 miles of fence and guarding it aside, our government is too busy fighting for oil, er….energy independence… to concern themselves with a few interlopers coming over the border and regardless of whomever hired them.
Wow. It took 6 posts this time. Getting slow, people. Getting slow.
Wow, this is scary-I kept looking at it to believe it. So we’re being invaded by the Mexican Army? Hmmh.
#12:
Why? I’m not voting for him, either.
Yes we are, terrig. This place says so. Hundreds of thousands of Mexicans, all wearing terrorist scarfs that Rachael Ray personally gave to them at the Mexican dunkin donuts, and they are going to kill us all. And it’s all John McCain’s fault.
#15:
There have been numerous reports over the past few years of Mexican military accompanying drug runners, human traffickers, etc. Even reports of a skirmish between Mexican military and border patrol agents.
So do you think this was an incursion or were they already here? Phoenix is about as far as LA from the border. Boy, if it was an incursion they better not try it here. We have a checkpoint about halfway between San Diego and LA, they would have to stop there so they’d never make it. Yeah, a checkpoint some 75 miles from the border, it works real good when its open.
A Tahoe? That can’t be very green. What do you suppose the carbon footprint of an operation like this is? At least they carpooled, I guess.
Use the National Guard. Build a fence sky-high, and tax every single democrat to do it.
They like to pay taxes to make the world a better place, so let’s take them up on their offer.
Don’t worry, I’m sure President Bush will get right on it.
*sigh*
Not to worry folks these
soldiers, hitman, scumbags will be ok if they made it back over the border, a mexican judge will let them free to go on their merry way without any regard for the good ole USA. and they even considered getting my guns… ahahahahhahaahahh, good luck.Is it time to do anything yet??????
Chertoff is a flippin joke….
Who arrested them and why aren’t the arresting officers in jail yet?
It may have moved since I looked last, but so far as I know the Rio Bravo del Norte doesn’t constitute any part of the Mexico/Arizona border. It flows south out of New Mexico, forms part of the Texas/NM border west of El Paso, then turns southeast, forming the Texas/Mexico border.
xler8bmw It is too late to do anything. They already started kidnapping in SoCal and that is just the tip of the iceberg.
I wish I had the link to the news video on it. But it is happening to US citizens in California and murdering is not a surprise to be included.
Stand by for reaction from the state legislatures and Gov. Arnold….
Insert chirping crickets.
*whew* Okay. I was starting to worry there for a minute. Sut, since they aren’t active military from Mexico, I guess it is okay. /sarcasm off
SutButUgh! Sorry. Long day today
Now I know you are a LIBERAL troll. Only a liberal would make such a stupid remark about something as serious as any mexican (military or not) crossing the border and executing anyone (illegal or not) on American soil. I guess you don’t really see that as a big deal though. Afterall, mcamnesty would not see it as serious, so why would his die hard supporters. You never cease to amaze. McCain = Liberal = wise_man . Like others here, I will vote for mcamnesty the day he denounces “comprehensive immigration reform” and amnesty in writing. Till then, he can p*ss off.
Michelle! Here’s the link from Fox LA. The drug cartels are kidnapping US citizens!!
Yes there are already doing it.
MyFoxLA.
Liberals won’t even care when it’s a tahoe full of nuclear material (aka bomb) driven across the “border” and watches LA go up in smoke. We’ll they’ll kinda care since LA is so liberal but they’ll just blame Booosh (despite the fact that the FISA handcuffing, open borders mantra, and anti-military stance they took in direct conflict to keeping nuclear armed terrorists from coming across completely undetected. What is even more hilarious if it were not so insane even if a police car in LA did stop this nuclear laden SUV for suspicious activity the cop would not be able to ask for identifying information of the legal status of the terrorist since that would be “racial profiling”.)
Yeah, they aren’t insane or anything.
Otherwise known as “legislation”.
If I have to explain it, you wouldn’t understand it.
Let me guess. You’re an Independent that votes for the candidate that you feel is best.
Someone asked on an earlier thread about tracking illegal alien crime. Check out this site – it’s pretty amazing! Sadly, it’s also very sobering. It’s less than a year old, and already has almost 2000 records. If you click on the drop-down list that says “Show Current Event Types,” it will show all of the categories they track.
Maybe it should be required daily reading for all of the officials who are supposed to protect and defend this beautiful country.
This completely undermines any and all legislation that is supposed to be for our “protection” from retrograde Arab terrorists that live in caves. The government has absolutely no credibility when it comes to security because of this invasion from the south. I posted a link to this story in the last blog entry here, I’m glad you picked it up see-dubya.
#34, I’m not a liberal troll, But there are many of them here, so that shouldn’t be too hard to find. I’ll give you a hint: They come here every day and tell us all that they wont vote for the republican candidate, and the result of this is that the democrat will win.
So armed soldiers from a foreign army are coming into the US and shooting American citizens.
Doesn’t that constitute an act of war?
tre–not unless they’re acting as soldiers or under orders.
If a U.S. Marine vacationing in Tijuana gets in a bar fight and kills a guy, it’s not an act of war.
What about 19 citizens of the nation of Saudi Arabia? Many think that Saudi Arabia has waged war on us.
Have you always discounted the threat to this country from the south, or are you engaging in double-think so your vote for McCain will feel less…. slimy.
Oh, I’m sure we would go after them then! keep dreaming.
Have you always discounted the threat to this country from the south,
Nope. Nothing of the kind,
or are you engaging in double-think so your vote for McCain will feel less…. slimy.
Wrong again.
#38:
On the contrary, I think it is you who doesn’t and wouldn’t understand. You are correct; I vote for the candidate who best represents my values and beliefs. Given that our president is not elected by popular vote and that individual states select their electors, I don’t have much hope for your argument, whatever it is.
It sounds like an armed incursion by a foreign army, I say we send 1st Cavalry down to Mexico for a little armed incursion of our own.
There’s a good idea. Let’s pick a fight with one of our biggest oil suppliers. That’ll show them. We’ll make them sell to China, instead. $10 gas, anyone?
No. Mexico, and many right here, believe the southwest U.S. is rightfully theirs. They’ve been acting like it for decaded and our government abets them. Hence, these are not foreign soldiers. No problemo. No war.
Now, if Canadian soldiers had done this in Milwaukee, now we’re talking WAR!!!
Hallelujah for whowever created that site (see #39), and thanks for the link Lan Astaslem. I’ll be e-mailing that to every one of my elected
officialspanderers.
Near as I can tell, Obama would have no problem with $10 gas. We all may need horses. Good news if you live in DC, plenty of asses wandering around.
Is this a Bush guest worker program in action (or perhaps the result of L.A.’s Order 40 reaching across state lines).
#50:
We’re not the ones picking the fight.
Why, yes. This is a Bush guest worker program in action. How did you know?
Let’s send congress to the border. We could use them as bait for the those mexican kidnappers, except we won’t pay the ransom to get them back.
I want to know if they were using AR-15s or M-16s…or something else altogether.
The fact that the article says “AR-15 assault rifles” makes me think we don’t have some objective reporting here.
I noticed that I tend to think that’s accurate, because the media usually says M16 when they’re talking about an AR instead of the other way around.
WOW look at all the racist comments on here.
sarc/ Well that’s what you get called when you demand our laws to be enforced.
This reminds me of a comedy movie with Jonathan Winters back in the ’60’s where a Mexican officer decided to lead his small army unit into Texas where they occupied the Alamo and took a few tourists hostage.
It was funny then. Not so now. I think there would actually be some people (Obviously no Texans!)who would be happy to surrender the Alamo to them if that happened today.
I say to place the SENATE BUILDING on the borders instead of Washington.
Then let the warfare begin.
Reality check perhaps?
Yea that’s me, a liberal troll because I won’t vote for a liberal who happens to have an “R” by his name. I have explained my reasons over and over for not voting for the pr*ck. Hint, has obsolutely nothing to do with voting for obummer. I think they both suck. Therefore, I am voting Pastor Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party. I do have other choices, despite your insistence otherwise. In fact, the 2 party system is the equivalent of the elections in the old Soviet Union. “You will vote for communist A or communist B. There you have the choice we gave you”. It was not a true choice there, and it is not a choice now. Fortunately, we still have a real choice here and I intend to use it. Not be told by the gov’t what my choices are. Of course, with party hacks like you running around, that is probably coming to an end soon. With enough useful lemmings like you, the 2 parties can get together and ban 3rd parties altogether. Guess what, even then, I would not vote for mcamnesty.
And this, you 4 SCOTUS justices who think I have no right to defend myself, is the reason why we have a 2nd Amendment.
Don’t think the powers that be will care. They don’t care that American citizens have been kidnapped and murdered for years near Ciudad Juarez, a town that makes 1980s Cartagena look safe and tranquil by comparison. They won’t care until the bandidos start kidnapping and murdering pols, celebrities, wealthy businessmen, and their families. Don’t laugh, it’s what they’ve done in Mexico for years.
Why not place it directly in Mexico City? Mexico already seems to own it anyway. Most of our senators seem to have more in common with the ruling Mexican elite than with their own fellow citizens.
looks like AP slammed you pretty good over at HotAir see-dub.
ROFL
AR-15’s at 30 paces?
Time to send in the Illinois National Guard. They have a leg up on the Mexican Military.
The only difference between the two is that the M16A2 military standard issue rifle (at least that model was the standard issued one I got in ‘98, the newer models rolling out have the vertical hand grip and I don’t follow newer names but I believe that model is the M16A4) has an additional 3 round burst selector whereas the AR-15 does not and only has the semi-automatic selector.
So if the Phoenix PD says they were AR-15’s I have no reason to doubt them. You think the cartels are going to buy military grade M16’s that they would have to steal or bribe from the ones we sell to other countries or go to the local gun shop in Phoenix or Tucson and buy AR-15’s that look and work exactly the same minus the 3 round (rather useless and hardly ever used it myself while in the army) burst?
Soapbox–
Anything but a glock. My poor thumbs!
grizzly–that’s a distinction i always look for in the media boilerplate about cartel weaponry. I’ve no doubt a huge amount of ordnance like AR15’s goes south out of gun shows and gun shops–but the media coverage then usually confuses it and complains about full auto weaponry, which is either stolen from the Mexican military or maybe percolating up from South American sources.
Here’s an example.
If I wasn’t talking about you, then I wasn’t talking about you.
So you’re not a liberal troll, good for you. But you are one of the conservatives who would rather Obama win than to stoop down to the level of that traitor McCain and vote for him, be counted along with the millions of other Americans who are going to be participating in this country’s elections. The more of you there are, and the less there are of people voting for McCain and the higher likleyhood that Obama will win. Because a whole lot of democrats are going to be voting for him.
I stand corrected. Sort of. Not really. Besides, my comment was in reply to your calling me a liberal troll. I am not. If you want to stand so close to the real liberal trolls that there is no daylight between you, then be my guest.
How many Mccain browning points do you have now Wise Man? Still shooting for that seat on stage at the La Raza meeting?
How many Obama points do you have John?
Once again, let’s hear it for MIZZOU! John Pershing, born in Laclede, MO.
And, just for fun, we’ll even bring up Gen. Omar Bradley (Clark, MO).
Hawkeye, GREAT idea!
Just drop it in the nearest pig farm.
We have a 500 billion dollar “Department of Defense”. I don’t want to hear that we can’t secure our damm border, something which even poor third world countries manage to do.
If enough of the conservative “base” stated that they were NOT going to vote for Mac–just maybe he would feel threatened enough to change his tune. Right now he really doesn’t care what the base thinks–he knows/thinks we will vote for him–we have no choice. Maybe we do.
On June 26th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, gayle said:
Hawkeye, GREAT idea!
Just drop it in the nearest pig farm.
Wow, as a frequent commenter on this site, I didn’t think I’d need to explain my point, but here it goes.
Any third party candidate that “reflects your values” has a very slim chance of actually getting elected. One only need look at Ross Perot and Ralph Nader as evidence. Given that these two are arguably more popular than any third party candidate running this time, it is safe to say that no third party candidate will be elected. Now that we have established that either McCain or Obama will be elected, by not casting your vote for McCain, you have decreased his odds of winning and increased Obama’s.
Therefore, Obama will be glad to see that you won’t vote for McCain.
Given how liberal our Congress has become and the possibility that they will retain a majority in both the House and Senate, I personally will do anything to keep a proven socialist out of office. A RINO is 100% more acceptable to me than seeing Obama signing bills into law that a liberal Congress dreams up and then having a Ginsburg filled Supreme Court declare constitutional and setting precedent. Maybe you have a place in some other country or are really just a troll, but I’m raising a family in this country and I’d like to see them enjoy the fruits of their labors, not what’s handed to them by the government.
If that’s not simple enough for you, then I’m pretty sure you don’t have the ability to figure out a simple ballot either, so never mind.
My son’t duty weapon is a Glock. I hated it when I fired it. Too much trigger slack, just a loose, uncomfortable weapon that I simply couldn’t fire accurately. I much prefer my little .38 Special.
Zero. I’m a Gingrich fan. A real conservative Republican. Put McAmnesty up against Newt and compare who is the true conservative Republican. See, Newt wins that contest hands down. He’s against Amnesty, MCamnesty is pro amnesty.
2, Newt’s for Drilling Now, Mcinsane is Anti drilling.
3, Newt’s for keeping Gitmo, McInsane is pro terrorist on that issue.
Need I go on?
Newt is pro business, McInsane is against the oil companies making a profit.
Nothing against you personally, but you’re riding a loser who is a liberal.
#74:
M-I-Z !!!
#80:
You are aware, I hope, that a candidate can lose the popular vote yet still be elected? If I vote for Barr, then I’m voting for Barr. It is not a vote taken away from McCain and it is not a vote that goes toward Obama. Give me a break.
Sorry about the pain you suffer from the Glock see-duya this is one of the times it actually pays to have smaller hands.
Yep! Nothing to see here move along just some folks looking to support their families in Mexico by busting a couple of hundred rounds in the butt of someone the DEA or the rest of the alphabet counter drug agencies should be taking off the streets anyway.
McCain should be on Obama’s ticket as VP.
They are truly in the same party.
We do not even have a conservative running.
Doesn’t matter which one wins.
WE ARE DOOMED.
Funny. That’s what the Perot and Nader voters said.
Oh well, I guess somebody has to be bad at math.
Very Slim?
I think the word you are looking for is “none.”
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And I have zero “McCain points.” I thought that Romney had the best chance of winning against Obama or Hillary, so I voted for him. And I lost. And now McCain is going to face Obama. Most of us who are intelligent enough to figure this out are forced to take sides that will allow one or the other to win, because that is how our system of electing the next president works … so your strawman accusation that I am getting ‘McCain points’ by speaking my mind and exposing a very dangerous mental condition that will allow Barack Obama to be elected is - incorrect and insulting.
“McInsane is pro terrorist “
You call McCain ‘insane?’ McCain is “pro=terrorist?” You are mentally deficient if you actually believe this. Again, Bush derangement syndrome has transfered quite completely into people like you against McCain. You are really an embarrassment.
“Nothing against you personally, but you’re riding a loser who is a liberal.”
Everything against you personally, you are a complete idiot, and it’s a shame that you are going to vote this november, because you are as dangerous to this country as ever single other Obama supporter.
#87:
Well…I voted for Perot, and Nader in ‘96.
Actually, that isn’t how our system of electing a president works.
You’re a conservative. You should know better than this. You’re supposed to be smarter than the democrats, and know better. You shouldn’t lie about other republicans who are a ‘flawed candidate’ but not pro-terrorist for *k sakes.
This is seriously derangement. Obama is a liberal. Very liberal. McCain is more liberal than would be acceptable but he is no where near the ideology of some one like Obama. This is so frustrating, you shouldn’t be acting like a democrat and lying about a republican you don’t like in an attempt to make him into a monster that you (any anyone else here) is attempting to make him out to be.
And in this election, there will be two people to choose from. Not 3. Not 4. Not 5. If you had half a functioning brain cell you could figure this out on your own.
Not participating in our democracy allows more democrats to decide who will be the next president. Choosing someone else will also be a wasted vote and will help the person who you like the least. AT LEAST the person you should like the least is the democrat.
#90 after the primary elections, then the decision is down to two people.
So you’re the one.
#92:
We were talking about the system and your misunderstanding of it.
And that really made a difference.
You are a moron.
It did make a difference. Voting for Ross Perot gave America 8 years of bill and hillary clinton.
#95:
I don’t vote to “make a difference”, especially since the president is not decided by popular vote. I think government school failed the three of you, but that’s government for you. If you people actually think you’re voting for president, then you need to turn in your citizenship merit badges.
LOL!!!! Why should we listen to you?
Your record doesn’t exactly inspire confidence!
(BTW, private school here)
And why should I listen to anyone who resorts to namecalling? Typical McCainaanite.
You sure are wrong on a lot of things.
Voted for Ross Perot.
Voted for Ralph Nader.
Assumed we all went to public school.
Not a very good batting average…
Now you go ahead and throw your vote away. Your voting record explains everything.