So then when do we actually support true conservatives? What happens in 2012 while we all rolled over for mccain the democrat and now we have two socialists on the ticket to choose from? That is next…just like France. Then we’ll be picking between the worst socialist. Joy.

I notice also that republicans defend mccain as an anti obama vote. That didn’t work so well for the dems last election while they voted for kerry as an anti bush vote. I say they need to turn around and demand of the republican party to actually put a republican on the ticket. Otherwise, it looks like we rolled over to democrat land. I don’t fear this election like I do 2012.

I went to Church on Sunday and we sang My Country Tis of Thee and by the end I was in tears because I know in my heart regardless of who wins in November, my America is gone. My country is dying and there doesn’t seem to be anything I or anybody else can do to stop it. It’s like a train wreck about to happen and the train is moving too fast to stop and not enough people even care. They’re all still too comfy in their homes with all their toys and watching American Idol on a bigscreen TV. And it hurts on a level I can’t explain in words.

Joy,

Take a deep breath. As a coutry we are going to be fine. We have gone through much worse times than this. I lived through the Jimmy Carter Presidency we can live through this.

We have the choice to vote for Obamanation or Obamanation Lite. The real important vote is for who controls congress.

A few words from a past struggle that was overcome. This date in history was the start of the battle that prompted these words.

It is rather for us, the living, to stand here, we here be dedica-ted to the great task remaining before us — that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

McCain is not going to drill for energy, and he has not said that he would.

Sen. John McCain said Monday the federal moratorium on offshore oil and gas drilling should be lifted, and individual states given the right to pursue energy exploration in waters near their own coasts….
McCain also suggested giving the states incentives, including a greater share of royalties paid by companies that drill for oil, as an incentive to permit exploration….
McCain’s presidential rival, Sen. Barack Obama, opposes an end to the moratorium, a spokesman said.

Battle McCain on his issues but pull the switch for him. Then support true conservatives going forward.

I did that in 2004 with Bush. I bought into the argument of support the poor Republican over the worse Democrat. I figured after Bush the party would swing back to the right. No way I’m supporting it as it goes even further to the left.

McCain has been wrong to treat conservatives the way he has, but at least it seems he’ll listen ie., drilling for energy.

McCain is not going to drill for energy, and he has not said that he would.

“Grant – Flaws have been exposed in your thinking too. “

Where?

“A lot of them. “

Where?

“You ignore them”

Where are these flaws? Educate me

And this is my first and last response to you

If this is your first response to me how could you have pointed out the flaws in my reasoning?

“cuz you’re an ass…

Almost as classy as wishing people dead.

JT – As I’ve said before I feel both are going to deal a fatal wound.

I’m off for a while. I’ll check back later.

Bill Grant said:

And if someone points out a flaw in the reasoning that you have used to come to your conclusion?

The next time would be the first. So far, no one has been able to do it.

McCain has been wrong to treat conservatives the way he has, but at least it seems he’ll listen ie., drilling for energy.

I have a hunch the VP will be Tim Pawlenty. Not a bad choice either.

“I just wish that McCain supporters would at least attempt to understand the reasoning behind not voting for him.”

And if someone points out a flaw in the reasoning that you have used to come to your conclusion?

“I’ve said I think it is already too late”

So that basically leaves you with giving up on the country. If it is already over what’s the point in even complaining about it? Personally, I can’t accept that. I intend to fight the downfall of the USA every step of the way.

“but it would be in the hopes that he croaks and the VP would be able to take over.”

Nice.

“If* he brings Mitt on as VP, I might vote for them,”

Mitt has already been labeled with the dreaded “RINO” tag here.